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8181  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin Sound Money? on: September 24, 2016, 02:56:48 AM
I don't understand why people keep comparing gold to bitcoin within the context of currency. Gold hasn't been used as currency for over a hundred years. People wear gold and the buy it to keep as an investment (store of value). When was the last time you saw some one buying something with gold coins? The only reason gold coins are made is for investment purposes, it's nostalgic to have it in an actual coin form.

Further gold is a metal. Bitcoin is electronic, not tangible, it's different on so many levels.
that's just an ironical things for the people is having a bad logic about the currencies and so making the vague statement and that's very disturbing and publishing the vague statement . So that's so pathetic. a lot of evidence but they're not wanna for knowing about more.
8182  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If Satoshi reveals himself, what would be of Bitcoin? on: September 24, 2016, 02:50:49 AM
What do you think that will happen once the real Satoshi reveals himself (and proves that he created Bitcoin)? Will Bitcoin ever be the same? Will governments try to pursue Satoshi and put him in jail?

This will be something interesting to know, once it happens (if it ever does) sometime in the future. Please feel free to share your thoughts here.  Smiley
What the interest of government is wanna for jailing satoshi?
But just giving a little surprised if satoshi is wanna for revealing himself in the public of bitcoin. but that's giving a little shock therapy for public of bitcoin.
8183  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used for Good? on: September 24, 2016, 12:00:47 AM
Surely, I can't see why not. Bitcoin can be used for making good things, just like when you try to do good things using the fiat money.
But the people is asking about this question is already having his answer and that so pathetic if he is not ever for doing good activities in their live and making this ironical question.
8184  Other / Off-topic / Re: how many people do you think knows about bitcoin in your community? on: September 23, 2016, 11:55:52 PM
Only few people around me (home, school and internet groups) who knows about bitcoin, but none of them use bitcoin Sad
They still think bitcoin is too complicated, not real or they just don't have any reason to use bitcoin. They only interested to hear about bitcoin after i say bitcoin can give you profit from freelancer works, investment or trading.

I once was just like them. Back when bitcoin was still starting and the price was just a few dollars. I researched bitcoin and listen to those websites saying bitcoin is a scam. I regret that decision to ignore bitcoin back then. I should have been wealthy by now. I hope your friends will realize the value of bitcoin sooner than later.
We passing the great moment of bitcoin for a long time ago hahaha... but in the 3rd money with the highly statistic of the poor people bitcoin is really fast for spreading their selves into the community. and just waiting about more and more people is know about that.
8185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin such a secure technology? on: September 23, 2016, 11:46:32 PM
When they ask me "can't bitcoin be shut down?" I answer "can the internet be shut down?"

NO!

A person understands bitcoin the moment she understands decentralisation.
the Internet can be shut down..... and the correct answer is yes... everything is always having the chance for getting a break and like the stone is very strong or harsh can be a broken and why bitcoin is can't die? Tongue
8186  Other / Off-topic / Re: What will you do if you own 21 BTC? on: September 23, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
There are two scenarios:

1) You hold the 21 BTC for a long period and retire as a millionaire. This is the safe, but long term (10 to 20 years) target.

2) You start taking high risks on the altcoin market and become an overnight millionaire or lose your ticked to guaranteed riches in those 10-20 years

Thought call.

Scenario 1 is good but doing some simple math gives you 1million/21BTC = 47617.04 dollars per bitcoin, that is an increase of almost 80 times at a bitcoin price of 600 dollars, in my opinion this is too much of an increment, but that is just me

why? bitcoin price is slowly going up, who knows what it's price will be in 10 or 15 years. I'd say thats not so far from his post. I'm expcting bitcoin to be a lot more than about 600$ as it is now. I'm seeing somewhere between 40k-50k per btc in about 15-20 years, maybe a spike in price but still.
Considering a lot of factors and implementing about 40 000 - 50 000 it's too highly target and especially considering the bitcoin situation in this time, okay everything is can happened in the future but we don't forget for putting the realistic reason for that.
8187  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Which bitcoin mixer is your favorite? on: September 23, 2016, 06:05:05 AM
Depending on what you're looking Low fee? reputation ? You could compare it to other sites
Only three sites I know so far please specify your choice

Coinmixer.se
We charge random service fee 1-3 % and address fee 0.0004 BTC per output address to cover transaction fees charged by miners.

bitmixer.io
Our minimum fee is 0.5% plus 0.0005 BTC for every forward address.

[banned mixer]
Code:
1     – 10 BTC 	0,45% 	up to 0.005 BTC ($3)
10   – 50 BTC 0,40% up to 0.05 BTC ($33)
50   – 100 BTC 0,35% up to 0.15 BTC ($113)
100 – 1000 BTC 0,30% up to 2.00 BTC ($1200)
1000 BTC and more 0,25% 2.50 BTC / $1500+


this is a good comparison , and pretty obvious which one have the lowest fee.
i personally not too often used a mixer service.
but i have used several times mixing the coins through bitmixer.io , they have a newbie friendly interface site i like them .

Wow, [banned mixer] has so good rate, and they also have 50% commission system, they are also honest and famous. So we can consider this site is the current best mixer?
best or not just depending with your opinion about every mixer, right?
8188  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: CryptoBorrow.com- any experience? on: September 23, 2016, 05:52:04 AM
OK,

I confirm i received my 0.01 BTC Loan.

THis is the Hash: 567722d61ef839bfd3ce0c3ff286149fb954125c40ce9358321f844a0448c177

*I'm from mobile so i cannot use this amount received on my yobit account  Embarrassed

How did you get your loan. The site seems to be dormant and I don't see any activity. They want ardeva verified people but ardeva is also not working. I agree with the person who said cryptoborrow and ardeva are owned by one person.

Yes, Ardeva is also not responding to anything and their customer service is dead. I think that no one isn't trusting them anymore. Cryptoborrow is probably some kind of attempted scam, that is what I think, connected with Ardeva. And the log in is also not possible anymore. Avoid this services.

It looks like Ardeva is waking up. Yesterday I received an email from them responding to a verification that was send 3 months ago. Surely, should it take three months to verify an address. Funny enough, my address verification was rejected. The same address verification has been accepted in three different sites. What they want me to so is to lie to them. I think they like liars.
And you already having the final definition about the ardeva and you're already said your answer he just a liars.... but that is so hilarious for me...  they still take care with their old request.
8189  Economy / Digital goods / Re: How Much an Hero Member account worth with bitmixer campaign? on: September 23, 2016, 05:41:23 AM
Bitmixer campaign will have same pay rate for all participants regardless of their forum rank. It means a hero rank account with bitmixer campaign enrollment may worth basic hero account's worth+bitmixer enrollment worth, a hero account will not have any special bitmixer enrollment worth due to same pay rate nature of that campaign.
But if seeing the same of their pay rate I think that is not a problem considering from the time of the campaign is already running and the rate is always stable and it's included in a high category of sign payment in this time.
8190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do people use so many Bitcoin wallets? on: September 23, 2016, 05:35:05 AM
I think the simple reason is to avoid hackers and store too much on a single bitcoin wallet. I was doing this.
Besides, some wallets can sometimes impaired. so when I needed it I could use another wallet to send.

I agree. By using more than a single wallet, we can somehow narrow down the amount of btc we could lose in case of any cyber attacks like hacking.
However, just what I said we can just narrow it down, but not prevent it. So still, using online wallets is dangerous.
That's right because attacking from the hacker is can come anywhere from. but we are decreasing the chance of our risk. but sometimes using a lot of wallets will not working if you're got the trojan is can steal your data. using offline wallet will always be best option in this time.
8191  Other / Off-topic / Re: What value does Bitcoin bring to you? on: September 23, 2016, 05:24:26 AM
Bitcoin is my soul because i earn about $50 monthly and that's a great account which is enough for a teen guy. It's enough for me which is pocket money and also i can save some for future usage so definitely bitcoin is of great value in my life. I don't know what other guys are thinking about bitcoin but i will always keep bitcoin on top list of my do to list.

Wow!! $50 dollars a month wouldn't be enough for me... That would just be three sets of guitar strings+picks and few beers... Maybe that is why I am still at my job up to this time...  Smiley But anyway, I am keeping bitcoins and using it because of its value, it's high and it keeps on increasing, it's more like an investment to me, there's a big chance that you will earn from keeping it unlike fiat...  Smiley
The amount is enough or not is just depending with where the people's living and their environment, maybe if we are starting discussing $50 in Europe that is would be meaningless and will different if discussing it in the 3rd country.
8192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is earning bitcoin Boring? on: September 23, 2016, 05:19:03 AM
I never feeling boring about this because i just understand if all of that only a bonuses for me, and i not think if that is like a salary and the another things is can't make me boring, i just using my bonus for having funny.
8193  Other / Off-topic / Re: I will invest! on: September 22, 2016, 11:39:50 PM
You will need a good investment plan,  of course, and it's required to  be aware that the cryptocurrency market,  even the btc-usd market, is still considerably  volatile and pretty risky.
For a few month bitcoin-usd is always stable and just happened a little moving of their rate but i not seeing it's too risky... and too many the traders of bitcoin-usd is going to the alt trade.
8194  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is amazon will be accepting bitcoins in the future? on: September 22, 2016, 11:35:37 PM
I don't know but I hope so. But i think sooner or later all online stores will be accepting bitcoin cause it's actually a digital currency and its safe only problem right now is that its not stable enough yet but once it is then that's no problem anymore and amazon will probably adopt it too.

Indeed I hope they do it aswell because its great publicity if big stores like this start to accept it more people will see it.
I bet bitcoin value will raise alot again once amazon starts to accept it, if i were them i'd do it cause alot of people use it online.
The other big companies like steam are already accepting it and until this time there is no happened with bitcoin and especially about the price, it's too far from the word of increase. and even it's just making the bitcoin is spending their money and not making the another person is wanna for using bitcoin.
8195  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Brazil has more than 150 stores that accept bitcoin on: September 22, 2016, 11:29:01 PM
Brazil has alot of stores that accept bitcoin this post was quite a while ago so i can only imagine it grew even bigger with more shops.
Other countries should learn from this and replicate. If we would have 200+ bitcoin stores in every country then the btc value would be over the roof.

Well I guess Brazil has already 500+ stores already because the epidemic adoption of bitcoin is really high and that is going to be more as the time goes by. And yes, that is going to make a good adoption to bitcoin if those nearby countries to Brazil is going to do the same and accept bitcoin.
It is just like imitating something and keep on re-producing it, I hope that is going to happen to for other countries.

for in my country indonesia is still a little bit of who receives the bitcoin, maybe the future will evolve and I hope can buy various items with bitcoin but do not know when it will happen

The same thing here in my country, I hope they are going to do the same just what Brazil did to the stores there. But still maybe there are a lot of bitcoin users already in Brazil so they have implemented that to 150 stores already. So if our government is going to see that there are a lot of users and supporters of bitcoin here then maybe that is possible.s

Countries that have stores that accepts bitcoin are lucky ones and people in Brazil are really lucky at all. Don't worry about it guys I do believe also that our countries are going to accept bitcoin soon and once it happened it is going to be another success for bitcoin. And you are lucky because there are users already in your country.
I'm not feeling worries but I feeling doubt because that is will stop the government for excavating the money of their civilians and I think there is not a clear thing when that is will happen in our country.
8196  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: September 22, 2016, 11:22:50 PM
No it will not affect the market fully but the fact is that steam will maybe lower there prices sometimes with some events.
Due to that it will maybe affect it a bit but not a lot at all for sure.
It's just making the bitcoiners is interesting for buy and not for the people is not aware of bitcoin is want for moving into the bitcoin and that is will never affecting the market but just affecting the market of steam caused by their selling statistic is increased.
8197  Other / Off-topic / Re: Way to get bitcoin..!! on: September 22, 2016, 11:15:37 PM
There is alot of way to get bitcoin and some of the best are also some of the most difficult ones. For example many people say trading is the best but trading is very difficult and risky though. Forum signature campaigns are most safe and litterly everyone could do it if you can type moderate english.
Difficult or not that's depending with the people's purpose about the definition and how they are doing a trading. I think it' not difficult just believing about buying high and sell in low... and that is already enough for giving you some profit without think more about trading.
8198  Other / Off-topic / Re: Amazon and bitcoins on: September 22, 2016, 11:08:26 PM
Amazon has a big audience and if they would accept bitcoin, it would give bitcoin a tremendous boost, However i think they are working on their own kind of crypto currency. The same way like google does but then for their market place.
You're correct about having a large audience but I not agree will giving a tremendous boost because every people is already stay in their convenient payment, the people is visiting amazon is for buying and i think they're already having an enough money and method for buying in them and that is so far think about will trying or moving into bitcoin.
8199  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Would you buy a hardware wallet? on: September 22, 2016, 11:02:07 PM
I'm already buying a trezor and that is cost a much for my money in the pouch but after using that I can say that is very convenient for me and that is matching the value is you spend and the result you will get it for your amount and keep it always safe.
8200  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Crypto Coin and Best Trading Site! on: September 22, 2016, 01:36:01 PM
Since you're already on C-cex, you don't have to look for a different trading site then. Good alt coins to trade are those that have been ever since because new altcoins are turning into scam coins in such short period of time. TBC, and XAUR are both a hot topic in our Group chat although TBC isn't in exchange sites yet. ICN is also an incoming coin but it's always a topic in our discussions.

Yes but I'm still looking if there are trading sites that are much better than C-cex. In regards to TBC, I think that it is a SCAM and I'm wondering why there are lots of people getting involved in it. They only bought that coin when someone told them that in just a matter of time it will rise to the moon. They did not do any research about it. When it comes to Xaurum,  I highly recommend it because it has a bright future for it.
Too bad people is just beliving with a troll and they are not know if that is just a trolling from someone about the coins will goinf to the moon and it's not logic and very very not logic for me. but considering from the demand the first number of the favorite trading place in this day is holding by polo. and I can assume if that is already holding a lot of trusting from the bitcoiners in this day.
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