Not even most likely, otherwise I wouldn't have tagged him. The deception is PROVEN cause he is LYING when he states "there'll be always enough btc bo buy back STD at GER" which is FALSE (anyone can do the math himself). Running with the money is very likely but that will only be aggravating. Innocent until proven guilty. Do you live in the dark ages? Shall we drown the dev and see if he's a witch?
Nope, proven already, read the above. |
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wow... so I do the right thing and defend this coin from the asshole that is ghibly79 and he is accusing me of being a sockpuppet? Just because someone disagrees with your actions doesn't mean they are a sock puppet. It is petty bullshit like this that ruins the forum.
Nope, I left you my negative feedback since YOU are abusing the trust system leaving a negative to me (useless, nobody except yourself will be able to see that anyway, but still) cause you disagree. You are the one actually abusing the system. This thread is a constant font of amusement, seriously. I'm not tagging anyone who simply disagrees or I disagree with (otherwise hucker will be at -9999 by now xD). Rarely seen this much glass climbing in my whole life. |
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Judging by hashrate and the other thread, you are in minority my dear noob/sockpuppet/naive/whatever you are  Why do you bother posting like a plague if only so few people are affected? If they are affected at all? Nope sorry, if you read his op, all the wording points to a secure investment, constantly rising in value, even if he doesn't directly state "you cannot lose money".
Hmm so you started making assumptions that are not or only loosely based on the Devs initial post - and you blame the author for that? Odd. It's a scheme made so he'll always profit no matter what and the risk (practically certainty, cause someone WILL lose everything at some point with a ponzi, only a matter of time. While with legit investments it's not certain at all) is masked.
First, the Dev does NOT profit no matter what. He can only "profit" if he is dishonest. Simply handing over BTC to the dev for some purpose (guaranteeing the minimum price) does NOT make this a scam. Only if the dev takes the money and runs away with it. Using that argument you should call every BTC exchange and even normal banks a "scam" - as they could in theory walk away with your money. Second, if you had read the definition of "Ponzi" carefully you would know that Standardcoin is NOT a prime example for a Ponzi. STD does not pay a return stream from new investor funds. Furthermore, it is pretty transparent what happens behind the scenes. If at all STD is similar to a pyramid scheme or to an economic bubble, as defined in Wikipedia: An economic bubble: A bubble is similar to a Ponzi scheme in that one participant gets paid by contributions from a subsequent participant (until inevitable collapse). A bubble involves ever-rising prices in an open market (for example stock, housing, or tulip bulbs) where prices rise because buyers bid more because prices are rising. Bubbles are often said to be based on the "greater fool" theory. As with the Ponzi scheme, the price exceeds the intrinsic value of the item, but unlike the Ponzi scheme, there is no single person misrepresenting the intrinsic value. Obviously, some people call BTC a Ponzi - if you are one of them feel free to call STD a Ponzi as well. At least someone who tries to post reasoned replies and not random troll gibberish. Unfortunately you are wrong. You are right on this one point though: "the dev is not profiting no matter what, he has to run with the money at some point" (except if no new investors come and mining stops, or is very low, and ipoers decide to dump. Then he'll pay back ipo investors a fraction of their investment and will keep most of it. Which is a very likely scenario, btw). My fault with that last statement, wasn't 100% accurate, I rushed it. Fair is fair. This is not changing the main problem anyway: he worded the thread to make you think you cannot lose money and that there will always be enough btc to buy back std at GER. The first part you can argue is only an assumption (sophism, cause it's very very clear) but the second part is plainly false, cause he'll be using new investors' money to pay either the miners or ipo investors dumping, or a mix. Or ipo money to pay the other two. Whoever dumps last will be losing money, mathematically. So he is deceiving new investors to pour money into the ponzi, so he can keep it running, trying to mask what it is and keeping the option to run with the money open if the sum gets large enough. Banks and btc are not ponzis (well maybe banks xD) cause, in the case of btc, NOBODY is guaranteeing he's going to buy back all your btc at initial investment cost. This IS a Ponzi cause only one person is (deceivingly) misinterpreting intrinsic value, leading investors to believe this value will be always at least enough to recover initial investment, while that's not the case. |
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And? I was talking about STD not being supported except by you and very few others. How your personal hashrate is related is a total mistery to mankind. Poor trolling attempt.
You need to learn basic English, this is an English speaking forum. When you first mentioned it, you didn't qualify the word hashrate with an adjective, and you didn't even say who you were replying to! And in fact later on when I said "What's my hashrate then?" you didn't say you weren't talking about mine. Anyone know where the killfile option is on here? This could be a nice tidy conversation without ghibly in it. What is a ghibly anyway? Sounds like a troll to me! Some kinda Hobbit character or what? Whatever xD I was talking about network hashrate being abysmally low thus contradicting your thesis that I was the only "detractor" there. You need to learn basic reading comprehension, no matter the language (my english is most likely better than yours even if you are a native speaker btw xD). Mr. glass climbing troll. |
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Non serve che spieghi a me xD Non ho tentato di dissuaderlo, ho solo preso atto che quando ha venduto il prezzo non era 100€ sopra come inizialmente.
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Ma in realtà adesso il prezzo era ragionevole xD
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And? I was talking about STD not being supported except by you and very few others. How your personal hashrate is related is a total mistery to mankind. Poor trolling attempt.
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Last block difficulty 0.086 (from block explorer). I don't even have to know precise hashrate: that's abysmally low.
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Last time I checked there was only one pool, so easy. If now there are more you can just do the math. Or you can see the total hashrate from the wallet, in console window "getmininginfo" command. Noob at work there, should put on a signal.
(pretty ot and trollish already, anyway).
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Judging by hashrate and the other thread, you are in minority my dear noob/sockpuppet/naive/whatever you are You cannot possibly know my hashrate. If you do, you're being reported for hacking. Network hasrate, nAb. You can see from any pool. You are just a noob who doesn't know what he's doing, that's the reason for all this commotion, to be honest. Just stop posting not related nonsense xD |
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Nope sorry, if you read his op, all the wording points to a secure investment, constantly rising in value, even if he doesn't directly state "you cannot lose money". Spare me your sophism. It's a scheme made so he'll always profit no matter what and the risk (practically certainty, cause someone WILL lose everything at some point with a ponzi, only a matter of time. While with legit investments it's not certain at all). Plus the private exchange part. All worth a very fat extreme caution remark. Cryptos+ipo is shady already as I stated, crypto+ipo+premine even more so. Crypto+ipo+new account+premine+ponzi structure and wording+private exchange=scam.
So if someone is making a profit he instantly becomes a scammer to you? Nope, it's HOW you make it. If you get it by deceiving people (trying to, OF COURSE not everybody will fall, hello? ^^') you are a fraudster. |
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Judging by hashrate and the other thread, you are in minority my dear noob/sockpuppet/naive/whatever you are |
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Nope sorry, if you read his op, all the wording points to a secure investment, constantly rising in value, even if he doesn't directly state "you cannot lose money". Spare me your sophism. It's a scheme made so he'll always profit no matter what and the risk (practically certainty, cause someone WILL lose everything at some point with a ponzi, only a matter of time. While with legit investments it's not certain at all) is masked. Plus the private exchange part. All worth a very fat extreme caution remark. Cryptos+ipo is shady already as I stated, crypto+ipo+premine even more so. Crypto+ipo+new account+premine+ponzi structure and wording+private exchange=scam.
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He promises to buy back all the coins at 25% of its value. He didn't force you to do so.
Look at other IPO, you can't even do that. You can only sell your coins on an exchange and if no one is buying, you will lose all your investment.
For the MILLIONTH time: with legit coins you KNOW you can lose (like with every investment), cause price CAN GO DOWN. Nobody is trying to deceive you by saying you cannot lose by some magic, like this dev. Other ipos can be scams too ofc, and there are tenths of examples there already: they can run with the money or even do ipo+premine, taking investors money then dumping the premine for more btc and killing the coin. And they are tagged as scammers too in fact xD But this time the scam is already in place cause he's trying to deceive people to invest stating they cannot lose cause the rate is constantly rising. So that's already worth a scam tag. |
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Doesn't seem to be the case: Hong Kong has it's own jurisdiction.
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Another round of lenders' masterminds at work: I just offered 13 btc as a swap at 0.1922% (best offer was 0.1923%). Instantly taken.
2 minutes later someone put 210ish btc at 0.0193%.
You should include some sort of basic intelligence tests with the kyc questionnaire in the registration phase.... don't know... some Raven matrixes or such ...
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The Dev Promised to deliver the IPO coins and an exchange system. Well, he did.
IPO investors received their coins and the exchange is working.
I don't know why he is still tagged as scammer?
Who did he scam?
He scammed no one, the only problem is that ghibly is a depressed and lonely guy that probably masturbates at all the attention he gets here.
But be careful, saying that you believe in StandardCoin will make you automatically a sockpuppet according to this mastermind.
Yeah, he took your money and delivered roughly 25% of that value back to you. He just scammed 75% of your investment and he's getting praised for that. Speaking about MASTERMINDS there ahahahahaaha He totally delivered xD (the scam). But maybe some other retard will come getting scammed in your stead buying more and repaying for your loss, cause that's how it works. To be honest I'm starting to think (at least some of) you aren't sockpuppets, just genuinely this idiotic: "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity", Hanlon's razor. I try my best to let you be but the level of human misery in these threads keeps calling me back. |
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By the way, was looking at your activity: 69 total posts of which 43 in Standardcoin threads.
You totally don't look fishy, at all xD
But ok, either way, you make zero sense even if you are legit so.... get lost. Now I've said it xD
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You are more likely to find someone who bans you for trolling xD
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Cause I proved my trustyness over and over for months.
And no I'm not the only one, only a couple of newbies are not realizing, look at the old thread (but most likely dev's sockpuppets or even alt accounts).
And I'm not abusing the system, otherwise I would have tagged you too at this point, based on the above assumption you are an alt account. But THAT is only an assumption, so I'm not doing that. Unlike op running a ponzi, which is a fact.
Bye.
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