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8321  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Will you trade Bitcoin to buy Altcoins? on: July 19, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
It is their wish whether to buy the altcoin or not because people are actively trading their Bitcoin buy buying altcoins. While investing into altcoin we have to be very careful because there are fake projects circulating the market and this makes people afraid of investing in altcoins.
Well, it is not even about the wish, it is just about the timing and the smartness of using the altcoins to increase your bitcoin position and for potentially huge profit. One thing about this market is that altcoins always have their own time and definitely we know that bitcoin will always have its time. It is just to make use of these times to one's advantage since that is the essence of maximizing profit anyway. Like you said though, it is necessary to be careful of coin or token to hold.

for me i also have to believe or overlook for some altcoin that are pretty potentially even that this is not to be trend for but for as long as this may benefit my needs for.
This must be one the criteria that every trader must look into before trading their highly precious bitcoins for altcoins. I am not meaning altcoins are not precious but investing into altcoin, we must check lots of things just to minimize the risk levels.
8322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does positive thinking affect your edge in gambling on: July 18, 2018, 05:03:00 PM
In card games, you need your skills and luck helps you to win with your skills. About positive thinking, it just makes you more concentrated.
I know everyone will always have what makes them take some certain decisions, but when it comes to gambling it is a whole lot of different ball game. Everything is still all about prediction, trying to outsmart nature or other parties you are playing with in terms of poker, or expecting that you could get lucky in some other games, but all these still comes with the reality of losing at the same time, and I have seen people who though positive thinking, perseverance and persistence will make them hit it big in gambling, but that is just a start of a big problem.
8323  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Professional Gamblers here in the forum on: July 18, 2018, 04:21:00 PM
The tipsters are not professional gamblers if you ask me. They are trying to make a steady income flow from the tipster work they are doing in order divide the risk element of gambling.

If I knew that I would be getting X amount of money for sure and I can gamble with the rest I would have become someone known in betting world as well. Also betting is not the only way of gambling. You can't be "professional dice player", its pure luck, maybe poker but those people out grow bitcoin space and go into stuff like pokerstars.
8324  Economy / Economics / Re: Stock Market and Bitcoin on: July 18, 2018, 03:25:47 PM
is like a normal trading, but the different is crypto market are bit slow to doing trade so need a full concentration to analyze it then the normal asset market

Crypto are not regulated market and stockt market is regulated one. The rise may be limited in stock market but little safer than crypto. In crypto earning could range anywhere as we have seen how quickly last year market went till 18k. So profit can be huge but risky as well.
That is just basically the main difference here and one reason why it is more volatile than the stock market as a whole. However, I believe with the institutions getting in and this space being a regulated one even though still decentralized, the behavior would end up being more like a stock market behavior. We may not see that yet in a higher perspective, but I am sure with time, things would change as we start seeing a more matured market that is being driven more by real demand and not just pure speculations without any much use for what it was innovated for.
8325  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin value on: July 18, 2018, 01:10:57 PM
BTC is now one of the most popular currencies in the world.Many people want to get into busniess with him.The value of the BTC is constantly changing, which is very good.Many people all over the world are constantly following the stock market, because their financial situation depends to some extent on that.
Very popular as my four year old kid few days ago was even asking me what bitcoin is ?
It is spreading, either with respect to bad news or good news, all over the world, people are getting the full gist about bitcoin and that is a good one.

What we need is further development and most especially when it comes to the scaling stuff, so as to help bring about the idea of real life usability and therefore help with demand. The more we get demand in play without the fear of the network getting congested, the better.
8326  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency or Stock Market? on: July 18, 2018, 12:30:08 PM
As we all know, stock market had been there for a very long time now and on the other hand, cryptocurrency is a fast rising trend when it comes to the world of trade and commerce. Some may prefer to invest in crypto because of high returns but some will still go with stock market and play it safe.
In your opinion, what will be the best option to invest your money on?
It all depends on the level of risk you are willing to take. Like you said, the stock market has been there for a while now and it is obvious that a lot is still being made from it with a lot less risk. However, when it comes to cryptocurrency, the fact that it is a new market with a lot of opportunities that really makes it so interesting.

We cannot simply state the obvious that the amount of profit you can get in a short while as profit in the crypto world is far more than stock world, but at the same time, we all know big profit comes with big risks.
8327  Economy / Economics / Re: The money started coming back to the cryptocurrency market on: July 18, 2018, 09:19:28 AM
The issue is not awareness we have enough people that know that this market exist the problem is convincing them to invest, most of the people that were willing to invest did already and invested most of their money when the price began to go up, now those people are in 3 different camps, the ones that lost money and are not coming back, those that are still in profits but are holding and have no more money to invest and those that sold at the right time but are waiting for better prices, so I do not expect the price to grow in a fast way.
We do not need to convince people to invest as people will invest when they feel there is need to.
Firstly, some of us here believe in the future of bitcoin but if we want to consider the number of weak hands as well who got into the market to get as rich as possible in one night, they are there too.

It is not about investing, it is about getting the real picture to want to invest. Moreover, since the market is a bit manipulated, we would not expect any smart individual to not want to see the full outcome of the bear market before even deciding to make any move.
8328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [11-07-2018] Bancor Struggles to Recover Lost Tokens on: July 17, 2018, 08:00:57 PM
I am having an account on Bancor, and I have struggled so hard to recover my access to it. They actually don't have the option forgot password, and when you lost your access to the telegram that you register with. It is really a battle to recover it. For now I have lost.
It looks like all access has still been shut down for the mean time until things get good but for now, it would just take some patience on your part. Nevertheless, it is a good thing that you are accepting losses already anyway so it would not hit you big eventually, or possibly you really do not have much to be worried about when it comes to losses.

I hope bancor will find a way to fix this situation and be able to trace whatever is traceable, but from where I stand, that would be a hard one to achieve.
8329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Future of cryptocurrency this 2018 on: July 17, 2018, 04:22:40 PM
You do not need to apologize even though you know it is a stupid opinion anyway coupled with the fact that you are here registered on this forum, you are carrying a signature of an altcoin and then you are coming to say there is no future. Well, I understand we all have our own opinion, but from where I stand I guess I should be asking you some question!
 
What happened to the countries that are beginning to see the benefit in this space and making attempt to tap hugely from it?
What happened to how this is going to create or has been creating a lot of opportunities for the likes of you and me and many more to come?

Of course, people like you are just here for the quick money you want to make anyway and care less about the future of anything which is the many reasons why people like you always end up missing good opportunities. That is my opinion to you too and I am sure not apologizing for it.
You actually just gave him a better piece of my mind. The thing that perturbs me is that a lot of people just want to say whatever they like but at least they should put some basis to it.

This is not something that is just going to come and go, a lot is invested into it, so many companies and teams have come up with product integrating the blockchain and creating something of value and as long as it starts getting massively adopted, and people start making use of these, then there is no way all these doomsday theory stated by the guy or likes of him ever come to play. But, you have said it; they simply do not know all of that and those are the kind of weak hands in the market we keep talking about.
8330  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Price Prediction For 2018 To 2020 on: July 17, 2018, 02:52:41 PM
While it is really hard to predict what bitcoin will do tomorrow, its really insane to even imagine what it could be two years from now. I mean we did see bitcoin going up and down 10%+ daily constantly. We saw it reach ATH in couple days, we saw it drop down in couple weeks. It is really hard to estimate what it could be. However my guess would be definitely above the ATH limits of $20k.

Big two reasons would be the new people coming in constantly and the halving will cause the miners to mine bitcoin with a higher cost. Include the devaluation of fiat currencies because of inflation and you got yourself a bitcoin that worth a lot.
8331  Economy / Speculation / Re: Before Complaining, Knowing Factors That Cause Bitcoin Prices Down on: July 17, 2018, 02:15:11 PM
I have always talked about this. When bitcoin reached to $20k or so levels the big whales made it out big, than they recollected when it dropped back. This was the phase 1. Than the short futures came up, which meant that if rich people sold bitcoin they would have fiat capital to play with, when they sold all of their coins (or some of it) they would cause a small drop in the price and with enough media at their hands they could create a fud around that drop which would result in even further drop from scared people.

However those rich whales who sold their coins to gain capital spent that capital on buying shorts during that time. Even though bitcoin is dropping, these people would have been profiting from it thanks to short futures.
8332  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: For this reason, wouldn't ETH be the future of all crypto? on: July 16, 2018, 06:30:59 PM
I agree ETH itself is the second biggest coin in the market behind bitcoin just for these reasons. Litecoin was the second biggest coin for years and it was silver to bitcoins gold but for a while now ETH has been the second biggest coin. It does have other usefull stuff but mostly the only reason eth is high is the token deal for other ICO deals. With the new tokens not worthing as much and people are afraid of going in the ICO's compared to a year ago, its harder for ETH to keep its value up.

The better ICO's and coins coming out of ETH the higher ETH will worth. People usually buy bitcoin directly first to buy other stuff, same goes for people who buy ETH first to get into a token. Better the market all around better ETH will be.
8333  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Should I buy the current ICO? on: July 16, 2018, 05:22:37 PM
It is more profitable to buy an ICO before it goes on a price boom but to figure out those ICO's are really hard, it is riskier to deal with ICO's than to invest on a crypto that is already been established on the market having a working product top 10 on CMC most likely but the profit is more rewarding and proficient if joined the right one giving the opportunity to be an early adopters to the token.
Currently is that most of the ICOs are even trading below their ICO value and that makes it a top notch for whoever is taking advantage of those opportunities now to get into some coins or tokens that just got launched from ICO and holding them for when the market eventually recovers. It would really be worthwhile at the end of it all for anyone smart enough to take advantage of that.

Buying icos in this market has a lot of risks associated with it. Its better to buy the coins or tokens on the exchanges
When buying from exchange, risks will be eliminated ? How ? Both have their own risk levels and I personally go for an ICO only I am getting convinced they way they present themselves along with roadmap and whitepaper.
8334  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What will be the best cryptocurrency in 2018-2019 on: July 16, 2018, 04:43:56 PM
Bitcoin and Ethereum still become the most popular crypto in next a few years because others altcoin can not replace it yet.  Both coin has potential to going up by multiple times because these coin has the biggest community and the strongest fundamental.
Even I believe Bitcoin will be the trend setter in the year 2019. This has so many reasons and besides all other, one is that no other crypto in the market has enough status and potential to outshine Bitcoin. This currency has gone a long way and despite hurdles in the way is still the leading one. If all the countries embrace the technology, I hope that it will be the future currency that will even push aside USD.
There are some cryptocurrencies which are very popular and on the top of crypto list. Bitcoin is still on the top although its price is very low these days. Ripple has increased its position and holds second and third position in the list, and finally Ethereum is also a good choice for investment in these days. For these three coins are the best for investment in 2018.
The price of every market is very low based on their previous ATH and not just bitcoin. Moreover, what you are focusing on the more is just the market cap but there is more to that when it comes to a market staying on top of its game with a lot of it having to do with the team, the product usage and so on, not just about some speculated price.

Bitcoin will still remain on top with a great community and there is nothing anyone can do about that. In the given time frame, eth or any other coins also may try to match the marketcap of bitcoin with their unregulated supply but no one could beat bitcoin price levels as of now as all altcoins are still lagging with real time applications.
8335  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Addiction Stories! on: July 16, 2018, 03:20:28 PM
Before I realized all gambling does is give you some thrills and fun, I was into it for money. Yeah I know it sounds silly now but at the time I really tough I could win it all and now looking back on it I realize it is silly and stupid. At the time I didn't know what martingale was and how it could lose you everything but I saw it as something that might work.

I had about 1 bitcoin (well back in the day it was easier to own 1 bitcoin, I made 0.2 of it just by mining with my old laptop) and I gambled with it, I made it up to 2.2 bitcoin for a while before it all crashing down when I lost back to back in a row couple times and all was gone. Since than I didn't stop gambling but I realize it is something to have fun with and accept the loss even before starting gambling.
It is even a good thing that you were able to quickly get the real picture before things ended up getting out of hand. The thing with gambling is that it gets you to be comfortable with winning when you start and then the house edge picks on you all of a sudden and then you see yourself getting into some deep shit eventually.

Gambling addictions stories started from the mentality of the person involved and with the wrong one, it is always a bad experience at the end.
8336  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits of gambling? Yes - it exists! on: July 16, 2018, 01:13:08 PM
Playing the dice game is a great way to pass the time, and if you play it conservatively you cant lose all your money.
Its nice that I can roll the dice and only risk a few cents- instead of when I bet sports and there is a few mbtc minimum (chance to lose more).

It all depends on how long your roll your dice because some people try to roll for long and end up losing a lot of money in this game. So if you play just for fun then you should be playing for a short while, not like few hours then you may control your losses with smaller bets. But anytime you temp to gain more money and go for bigger bets then you will surely lose more money at the end. I usually roll manually for sometime dice and stop within an hours time because when you play manually you will not like to roll for longer hours.
Yeah, gambling always needs to do with some caution and try not to ever get caught in trying to win something huge than normal while still knowing very well that the possibility of losing everything either you are doing in short period or not, is still huge.

I have never been a fan of rolling manually anyway since I do not have that chance, so the usage of script has always been the thing for me. The good thing about the likes of cryptogames is that you can also set it to keep rolling normally for you. The benefit of gambling i can see though is only when you end up winning a huge money that even you never expected, and then value the winning enough to go use it for something good than gambling it over again.
8337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your game and why? on: July 15, 2018, 09:14:14 AM
My favorites are Poker and Horse racing, these two is based on skills so I prefer to skill games. For luck based on games, Dice and Roulette are my favorites.
It may be based on some form of skills, but they are still somehow based on luck. You can play poker with all the skills to call bluff, but that does not mean you could just end up getting unlucky and the same applies to horse racing too, as I have seen situations where that horse you are betting on can actually end up messing up big time or some unlucky scenario end up playing out. I still do more of sport betting though, but even with knowing how to analyze them, it is still all about the luck at the end.
8338  Economy / Economics / Re: Predictions Markets? on: July 15, 2018, 07:39:30 AM
I used forecast markets several times with a virtual account at stox.com just because I participated in their ICO. The forecast markets are a very interesting topic for players especially if the player himself can create events.
Actually holding some stox as well, but I have never really tried out the forecast market thing, probably one of these days. The thing about market though is that you cannot really forecast much due to its high volatility with anything changing in just a single minute with a rapid drop and in that case I have learned over the years to just blend with the trend and that has saved me more headache in which most of the time I still get at the best value than trying to catch a falling knife.

Instead of making use of others predictions, I always prefer to go with my own as it will be having less risk comparatively in my experiences. There are lots of paid prediction calls are available over internet. But I never suggest anyone to go for it. It would be much better to develop own analytical skills to generate own calls.
8339  Economy / Economics / Re: stupidity is so close to poverty on: July 15, 2018, 07:00:28 AM
stupidity is so close to poverty, do you agree with such a phrase?
if it yes, means the poor are the fools.
I want to know your opinion.  Grin Grin

No, I disagree with this phrase.  Poor people are not all fools. There could be some but not all. Some doesn't have choice. Luck can also be a factor because people who were stupid But were born rich can still enjoy prosperous life even with less effort. 
Yes, we cannot say they are all fools. We know how life sometimes can be a bit hard on someone and it would only take some high level of perseverance, persistence and dedication to whatever you are doing to be able to get there and this is one thing a lot of people do not have as attribute which makes the wealthy ones few and in this case.

I am talking about the real business men and not those who are in political spots looting funds at the detriment of the masses, which I consider as stealing. I may not be where I want to be, but I am rich enough in my own way and still working very hard to take advantage of every slight opportunity that some may consider too small until they see it grow big.
8340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What happened to DASH on: July 15, 2018, 05:23:44 AM
Dash use to be a top coin rivaling with bitcoin. Not it’s a sinking ship.
The same thing that would happen to every other coin that claims to be a bitcoin rival and would do what bitcoin could not do better. It is funny how people were having high expectations with some of these coins than claim to bring about higher level of privacy but in the real sense they are no different than any other shitcoin or token but they just got lucky to be in early, got over hyped and now trying to sustain something they simply will find hard to do.

Best is to just come with a good product for real life usage than trying to claim a better currency than bitcoin
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