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Anyone ever wondered with all the media hype we have received in the past few weeks, and all of the services that now accepts BlackCoin, why are we still trading at the same level for the past 2 weeks? Everyone I meet and chat with claim they are holding BC and not selling, have you ever asked yourself why is someone selling so low?
"Propaganda does not deceive people; it merely helps them to deceive themselves".
--Eric Hoffer
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RUNNING A FEW NUMBERS...
This proposed -or real- "Foundation", for what we all know by now, will be comprised of 15-20 individuals "that were here more or less from the beginning" and that are all well know to the community... well, since the whole thing exists only for just over two months, how "well known" can they be?
But since the ra-ra mentality is obviously much more active here than the simplest exercise of critical thinking, let's try some numbers so no one can claim "oh I didn't understand the potential ramifications and dangers. It is already established that the proposed -or real- "Foundation" is, in reality, a "Group of Investors" in which Rat4 and The DOGE take part. There's no other purpose, NONE, that supersedes the main if not only purpose of a "group of investors". By simple and pure definition: To make profits, i.e.:Money. Pure and simple. No ifs, no buts.
With that in mind, I believe it is safe to assume that of those 15-20 investors now in the proposed "Foundation", we will find that they hold most if not all of the top 20 BlackCoin Wallets. And maybe quite a few spares. That's by themselves, not even counting family members, friends or associates already converted to the BC "faith". Remember, the MAIN interest of such group, by definition, is to obtain profits, ok? Now, place yourselves in a position in which you personally or a group of "yous", own double or triple the amount of BC that is traded daily in the exchanges. And just limit the vision, for concentration and clarity purposes, to the two main exchanges, MintPal and Cryptsys. I'm sure you can easily see the unlimited possibilities... on arbitrage alone... which means simply selling in one place and buying in the other while actually maintaining the same amount of BC at the end of the day. Even at $0.12 a piece, the current price, you can easily imagine that such activity, even at much lower levels, would produce dreamlike kind of profits with practically no risks whatsoever. Will the Investors Group in the "Foundation" do this? Of course not, will they? Can they do it, exceptionally or on a regular basis? YOU answer that question. There's a reason why such a thing would mean jail time -extensive- if it were to happen in the real world.
But since we are all being so proactive, so well mannered and putting extensive amount of ribbons to everything that we post not to hurt too many sensitivities, one would actually believe one has entered the Twilight Zone. Now we have this "generous" guy, Colin, that offers to match up to $5k whatever donations, as it this were some kind of telethon. It is already a freaking circus with a bunch of people vying for who comes with the most outrageous idea of what to do so they can sell at 37 and buy back at 30 and brag about it. It is greedy beyond words, pathetic to extreme that such amount of real resources, which could save hundreds of children's lives, quite literally, would be used in this dick-measuring context for the ONLY purpose of getting a coin to trade at 37 instead of at 30. There's no generosity in that. There could be a bunch of other adjectives, none even remotely being "generous"... and and I can see the question in the ever attacking "defense" coming... the answer is "not enough", ok? So you can save yourself the inevitable question.
Can the "Investment Group" exist and be called "Foundation" or any other name? Well, in fact it does already exist, obviously. Organized and ready for action as we saw in the campaign against IC over the weekend. The Land Grab had already taken place, just covertly. Now it is kind of official. You guys, the "community" can do whatever you want but we are BlackCoin and no one but us will ever have control over it. We are the devs and now we are also The Foundation. Marking territory. Besides, we have the coins. We can do anything we want. In fact, let's move the "discussion" to forums we absolutely control and where absolutely no dissenting words are ever allowed to be posted.
Well, there are no positives in that. No matter how you pretend to disguise it. Like I warned before, it will prove sooner, rather than later, BlackCoin's undoing. A pity because I love the gorgeous logo. But calls for reason, sadly, are an exercise in futility. Hopefully not too many people will be severely hurt by the inevitable.
Now back to your previous ra-ra's.
I know you are an intelligent individual, and I am being sincere. After going back and reading what you have written lately, including this current post, I now realize you are more intelligent than I previously gave you credit for. However, your message gets ignored because of your "hateful" tone. I can guarantee if you change your tone and dial it back a bit more people would listen to your point of view. The brilliance was always there, from the get go, but was is a given that not apparent to all... kind of like Tolstoi or Camus, not accessible to everyone. My posts, as I have noted several times, only tried to bring the power of reason, common sense, and a sober vision of a long term future away more than the next 10 or 20 -or even 500K -satoshis... which is the only things that transpires here (or at IRC). To give some perspective beyond the feverish greedy rush that seems to motivate many -you included-. Those efforts, I realize, are futile for the most part. So be it, it is what it is. Kind of what you surely will experiment soon enough: No matter how well you know your children are about to make terrible mistakes -otherwise easily avoidable-, you just cannot prevent them from making them. I will witness, with resigned sadness, the self destruction so many times seen before. This is, indeed, the chronicle of a destruction foretold. We humans are, after all, the only animals in the planet that would stump twice -and more times- on the same stone. Unfortunately your perception of me is wrong. If greed is what motivates me I would have cashed out around 80,000 sat and not looked back. |
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Hum...this will be an interesting next few days....
Crypto reminds me of a good mystery novel...just when you think you know what is going to happen, there is a plot twist.
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RUNNING A FEW NUMBERS...
This proposed -or real- "Foundation", for what we all know by now, will be comprised of 15-20 individuals "that were here more or less from the beginning" and that are all well know to the community... well, since the whole thing exists only for just over two months, how "well known" can they be?
But since the ra-ra mentality is obviously much more active here than the simplest exercise of critical thinking, let's try some numbers so no one can claim "oh I didn't understand the potential ramifications and dangers. It is already established that the proposed -or real- "Foundation" is, in reality, a "Group of Investors" in which Rat4 and The DOGE take part. There's no other purpose, NONE, that supersedes the main if not only purpose of a "group of investors". By simple and pure definition: To make profits, i.e.:Money. Pure and simple. No ifs, no buts.
With that in mind, I believe it is safe to assume that of those 15-20 investors now in the proposed "Foundation", we will find that they hold most if not all of the top 20 BlackCoin Wallets. And maybe quite a few spares. That's by themselves, not even counting family members, friends or associates already converted to the BC "faith". Remember, the MAIN interest of such group, by definition, is to obtain profits, ok? Now, place yourselves in a position in which you personally or a group of "yous", own double or triple the amount of BC that is traded daily in the exchanges. And just limit the vision, for concentration and clarity purposes, to the two main exchanges, MintPal and Cryptsys. I'm sure you can easily see the unlimited possibilities... on arbitrage alone... which means simply selling in one place and buying in the other while actually maintaining the same amount of BC at the end of the day. Even at $0.12 a piece, the current price, you can easily imagine that such activity, even at much lower levels, would produce dreamlike kind of profits with practically no risks whatsoever. Will the Investors Group in the "Foundation" do this? Of course not, will they? Can they do it, exceptionally or on a regular basis? YOU answer that question. There's a reason why such a thing would mean jail time -extensive- if it were to happen in the real world.
But since we are all being so proactive, so well mannered and putting extensive amount of ribbons to everything that we post not to hurt too many sensitivities, one would actually believe one has entered the Twilight Zone. Now we have this "generous" guy, Colin, that offers to match up to $5k whatever donations, as it this were some kind of telethon. It is already a freaking circus with a bunch of people vying for who comes with the most outrageous idea of what to do so they can sell at 37 and buy back at 30 and brag about it. It is greedy beyond words, pathetic to extreme that such amount of real resources, which could save hundreds of children's lives, quite literally, would be used in this dick-measuring context for the ONLY purpose of getting a coin to trade at 37 instead of at 30. There's no generosity in that. There could be a bunch of other adjectives, none even remotely being "generous"... and and I can see the question in the ever attacking "defense" coming... the answer is "not enough", ok? So you can save yourself the inevitable question.
Can the "Investment Group" exist and be called "Foundation" or any other name? Well, in fact it does already exist, obviously. Organized and ready for action as we saw in the campaign against IC over the weekend. The Land Grab had already taken place, just covertly. Now it is kind of official. You guys, the "community" can do whatever you want but we are BlackCoin and no one but us will ever have control over it. We are the devs and now we are also The Foundation. Marking territory. Besides, we have the coins. We can do anything we want. In fact, let's move the "discussion" to forums we absolutely control and where absolutely no dissenting words are ever allowed to be posted.
Well, there are no positives in that. No matter how you pretend to disguise it. Like I warned before, it will prove sooner, rather than later, BlackCoin's undoing. A pity because I love the gorgeous logo. But calls for reason, sadly, are an exercise in futility. Hopefully not too many people will be severely hurt by the inevitable.
Now back to your previous ra-ra's.
I know you are an intelligent individual, and I am being sincere. After going back and reading what you have written lately, including this current post, I now realize you are more intelligent than I previously gave you credit for. However, your message gets ignored because of your "hateful" tone. I can guarantee if you change your tone and dial it back a bit more people would listen to your point of view. |
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Iconic and Foundation are not the same thing. If Iconic says an assanine insightful comment, that's Iconic being an ass brilliant.
I noticed a few errors in your previous post. I knew you couldn't have meant the original so I took the liberty to correct it for you....  |
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We have been here for at least 2 months and we have not killed the coin yet. Quite the contrary.  You don't want yet coming after killed |
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So, waiting to hear from Soekip on here, is he involved in this investment group? Is he not? If so, who does official tweets for Blackcoin now, and other social media? Hopefully not investment group. If Soekip is involved, i would hope community would expect him to step down immediately from either group or representation of the coin.
Lets get some transparency here, who is right now running the official BC social media, and if so, are they involved with investment group? This thread is becoming more ridiculous every day. Let's put the shoe on the other foot. How about we get some transparency from Iconic? I myself paid for a Blackcoin card. I want to know exactly how much of what I paid will be his personal profit. I honestly didn't care about this until today, but as you people are so dead set on transparency when it doesn't apply to you, let's go there. I don't see where anyone has said that the Blackcoin Foundation will be taking a profit from donations. A group of investors brought together = investment group. That is what the foundation is. Iconic and the Foundation are exactly the same thing, just one is a singular person, the other is a group of people who have decided to work together. Iconic will be taking some sort of profits from his Blackcoin Cards and no-one has kicked up a fuss about this (Why should they, people need to make a living too), yet when the Foundation pre-raise money for a venture and then ask for some donations which AFAIK will all go to the projects, they get shit for it from the same people making money off of donations simply over a name? What is to stop someone thinking that Iconic is in a position of solitary power due to all of the advertising work he is doing? Nothing. Anyone that steps forward and takes the mantle of responsibility onto themselves is going to be approached and followed by people in some way, it's just natural.
Stop being counterproductive just because someone else is doing something that is getting attention, seriously, it's getting old. The sandpit is big enough for lots of kids to play in.Thank you for your questions and I can also understand why you can view it as a double standard. Please understand not every question from me or others are attempts at attention but legitimate questions. In regards to your question, although a private company is not required to disclose profits, I would be more than happy to share that information with you. After manufacturing, packaging, community donation ($1 per card), and worldwide shipping, my profit is roughly $5-$7 depending on the country I am shipping. |
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brammien, we only control our own funds. We cannot possibly exert control over millions of dollars. It is a decentralized currency. we are an investment group. We control our funds which we are currently using to help everyone as much as possible. You have caused us to rethink the use of the term foundation because it is clearly causing a lot of issues. We are an investment group. That is all. I think some people have been led astray as to what we can and cannot do.
Okay, so if you are an investment group, then will the investment group be tweeting, facebook, social media under the official blackcoin, or under another name? If your just an investment group, then that's fine, but should not be overlapping of the official pages, with investment groups pages. Like we as investment group support or don't support something is okay, but we as blackcoin foundation don't is then shown as official. I'm okay personally with investment group, but not under official title representing the coin. If this group does well and helps coin, great. If not, then it's only investment group and not under tile of anything else. I just believe there should not be conflicting interest. I'd hope Soekip is NOT part of this group, since he's now representing the coin as figurehead. That would be huge conflict of interest. Hum...why is an investment group seeking donations from the community? You're an investor. Why are you seeking donations from the community? An investment group is a group of investors. It's what you are, only in plural. I imagine in this case, the investment group came up with an idea that required funding. They figured they could bear half of the cost themselves and then went to the community to seek donations from those who agree that the idea is worth investing in. I thought you said you would start fresh this week and stop with the attacks? That wasn't an attack at all, and if it appeared that way I sincerely apologize. As for me... yes I am an investor but I am not asking the community to invest in something similar to a "hedge fund". I am asking the community to donate to projects that are community based. I have no problems letting someone else from my area help with any project I am a part of. Iconic I don't understand why you personally have to try to misdirect and twist every single thing some one says. You know it's not a hedge fund, it's a group of people seeking to promote the coin. This should make you happy, but the fact that you are stomping your feet and making a fuss is clear you have only self interests in mind. We had never once ever said anything bad about your campaigns, or your goblack website. But you are just on here full of venom spite, and a disturbing obsession with convoluting the message and taking control of it. People who act like that in my eyes do not act in the interest of the coin, and it should raise warning flags for any body who is so obsessed with destroying the efforts of others, completely unprovoked. Please read my previous post. I can understand your frustration, and if my use of "Hedge Fund" in some way offended you I am sorry. That was not my intention at all. I used "Hedge Fund" because a group of people pool their money together for an investment or investments. In this case it is to promote BlackCoin. So in essence it is similar to a hedge fund because part of promoting BC increase the value of everyone's portfolio, including mine. |
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This Bitcoin Foundation is a Non Profit, so it is different than what everyone else is proposing. It has already been established that the BlackCoin Foundation is more like an Investment Group which is for profit. Anytime a "Foundation" is for profit, then it's effectiveness is diminished greatly. So, waiting to hear from Soekip on here, is he involved in this investment group? Is he not? If so, who does official tweets for Blackcoin now, and other social media? Hopefully not investment group. If Soekip is involved, i would hope community would expect him to step down immediately from either group or representation of the coin. Lets get some transparency here, who is right now running the official BC social media, and if so, are they involved with investment group? It always amuses me when I see blatant attacks against the users which built the platform that you are now using to attack them on. I do not think he meant it as an attack. It is obvious there is still some tension...so why don't leave this discussion off the table for a few days so everyone can calm down. The Wall Street event is at the end of the month, there are a few weeks before the event. So what are we going to do in the meantime to keep forward movement? |
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brammien, we only control our own funds. We cannot possibly exert control over millions of dollars. It is a decentralized currency. we are an investment group. We control our funds which we are currently using to help everyone as much as possible. You have caused us to rethink the use of the term foundation because it is clearly causing a lot of issues. We are an investment group. That is all. I think some people have been led astray as to what we can and cannot do.
Okay, so if you are an investment group, then will the investment group be tweeting, facebook, social media under the official blackcoin, or under another name? If your just an investment group, then that's fine, but should not be overlapping of the official pages, with investment groups pages. Like we as investment group support or don't support something is okay, but we as blackcoin foundation don't is then shown as official. I'm okay personally with investment group, but not under official title representing the coin. If this group does well and helps coin, great. If not, then it's only investment group and not under tile of anything else. I just believe there should not be conflicting interest. I'd hope Soekip is NOT part of this group, since he's now representing the coin as figurehead. That would be huge conflict of interest. Hum...why is an investment group seeking donations from the community? You're an investor. Why are you seeking donations from the community? An investment group is a group of investors. It's what you are, only in plural. I imagine in this case, the investment group came up with an idea that required funding. They figured they could bear half of the cost themselves and then went to the community to seek donations from those who agree that the idea is worth investing in. I thought you said you would start fresh this week and stop with the attacks? That wasn't an attack at all, and if it appeared that way I sincerely apologize. As for me... yes I am an investor but I am not asking the community to invest in something similar to a "hedge fund". I am asking the community to donate to projects that are community based. I have no problems letting someone else from my area help with any project I am a part of. |
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This Bitcoin Foundation is a Non Profit, so it is different than what everyone else is proposing. It has already been established that the BlackCoin Foundation is more like an Investment Group which is for profit. Anytime a "Foundation" is for profit, then it's effectiveness is diminished greatly. |
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brammien, we only control our own funds. We cannot possibly exert control over millions of dollars. It is a decentralized currency. we are an investment group. We control our funds which we are currently using to help everyone as much as possible. You have caused us to rethink the use of the term foundation because it is clearly causing a lot of issues. We are an investment group. That is all. I think some people have been led astray as to what we can and cannot do.
Okay, so if you are an investment group, then will the investment group be tweeting, facebook, social media under the official blackcoin, or under another name? If your just an investment group, then that's fine, but should not be overlapping of the official pages, with investment groups pages. Like we as investment group support or don't support something is okay, but we as blackcoin foundation don't is then shown as official. I'm okay personally with investment group, but not under official title representing the coin. If this group does well and helps coin, great. If not, then it's only investment group and not under tile of anything else. I just believe there should not be conflicting interest. I'd hope Soekip is NOT part of this group, since he's now representing the coin as figurehead. That would be huge conflict of interest. Hum...why is an investment group seeking donations from the community? |
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Lets just all step back a minute.
I have a few questions regarding both the Foundation and the PR firm since it is relevant to this discussion.
Can the following questions be answered without personal attacks and FUD?
1. Why does a decentralized currency need a centralized Foundation in the first place?
2. What is the mission of the Foundation?
3. What promotional plans does the Foundation/Dev team have in place for the next several weeks until the PR firm can supply a plan?
4. Once the PR firm does supply a plan, where will the additional funding come from to execute the plan?
5. Since the community is paying for half of the PR Firm, why not let the community select their own PR firm? There are thousands of PR firm across the planet.
I do not think the community quite understands that the $30,000 the PR firm is being paid is just to offer plans and advice. It will cost an additional $70,000 - $250,000+ to put whatever plan into motion.
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Transparency, The Foundation, Business, and Life in general.
The thread definitely seems to be shifting out the abusive smackdown phase and into the phase of the long-and-thoughtful post. All give praise, to the evolving collective consciousness that is Blackcoin. More humor, a lighter and more respectful tone, diminished 'ego', more focus on substance. I truly hope this thread is never shut down as it is an incredibly rich document of the new and largely uncharted social and monetary experiment called crypto.
As succinctly as I can, here are a few thoughts to consider on the questions of transparency, Foundation, insider ops, and running Blackcoin in a healthy, fair, and effective manner:
Absolute transparency on all fronts and at all times: not realistic, nor even possible. Furthermore, beyond certain limits it is not desirable. Closed-doors are to some extent a 'necessary evil'. They are inevitable, and with all their obvious dangers can nonetheless benefit the currency and its investors AS A GROUP. The negative aspects and risks can also be mitigated considerably through proper management and oversight. How well that goes will, yes, depend somewhat on the ethical standards of certain individuals, as well as on the general level of cooperation and orderliness within community as a whole. You need to consider end results, as compared with those of an 'absolute' democracy, with 'absolute' transparency (scare quotes here because these are only possible hypothetically).
Anyone with experience in the corporate world knows that there are things that stay protected within upper management, at least for a time, and for good reason. Planned innovations and other initiatives can be destroyed, lose all their power, be stolen, copied, even turned against one if released prematurely in the name of transparency. YES, the same closed door does create possibilities of abuse. It happens when individuals involved are of low character and sufficient mechanisms are not in place to stop them.
And please, let's not hear the childish refrain that "this is not corporate, this is not a business, this is decentralized!" Some of the same people who objected to my corporate analogies in the past are now making free use of them. Crypto is different from business in the traditional sense, but it also has a great deal in common with it, and every effective plan that been executed for the benefit of Blackcoin to date has been successful due to the business acumen and business-efficacy of the person/people responsible. The analogy largely holds, and we are too early in crypto's evolution to fully grasp where the analogy breaks down and fundamentally different thinking is required. This is largely uncharted territory, and we are the vanguard. We are the first settlers.
Coming back to the Foundation specifically, I strongly approve of its existence and its demonstrated level of conduct and efficacy thus far. I applaud its stated purpose, and its promise as an instrument for good. It's still evolving, and I recommend giving it a chance to do so. That said, if it does not have one already, it should have a charter and by-laws. That should be in written form and available to everyone. And it should be drafted in full view of the community, with all its inputs taken into account. The possibility of an elected oversight committee could also be considered. But these things all take time. Let's allow for that, and in the meantime not hobble ourselves from present action by demanding perfection by 6pm tonight.
Hi thank you for your deep and thoughtful insight. The very nature of crypto is to be decentralized and give "power" to the many. That is why it was created in the first place. If we start going down the path of centralization, then what is the point of crypto? We might as well just use FIAT. Now I agree we must follow some practices used by Corporations, but closed doors is not one. Transparency is key, realistic, and practical in this environment of mistrust and skepticism. If someone wants to steal or copy an idea then so be it, let them. Anytime you have a few speaking for the many, especially when there are millions at stake, it will always lead to disaster. This has been tried before and failed miserably. As soon as BC starts to reach $1.00 and greed kicks in, people true colors will quickly emerge. If friends & family have become bitter enemies over money, what do you think will happen with strangers who have only known each other a few months? Greed, ego, or thirst for "power" will not be a factoer if everything is decentralized. However, any Foundation with multiple people "running" it will inevitably collapse on itself. The major issue with that is by the time the "Foundation" implodes it would have been established as the central core of the community. If it collapses everything around it will collapse. That is why it is key not to give too much control to one entity. Very good example of that is the US government. We have different branches of government for a reason. There has to be checks and balances to prevent absolute control or absolute collapse. |
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Wall Street Event & BlackCoin Card Update
We all know what occurred over the weekend and there is no need to open up old wounds. This is a new week and we now have an opportunity to reboot and start fresh. I am very excited about this week because people will start receiving their cards in the mail. I want to thank everyone who purchased a card, and I will ask that you please have patience because we are filling a lot of orders by hand. Everyone will get their cards.
We have raised just over $4450 for the Wall Street Event! I have always been impressed by the members of this community and how we always seem to get the job done. $4450 is a good start and I believe we will reach our goal.
Over the weekend their were a few comments about me funding the project solely. Messaging and perception is everything, and we have been doing an excellent job getting our message out. We are starting to be perceived as the community that gets the job done. We set a goal and we accomplish that goal. A few large donors do not give the same soundbites as "The BlackCoin community raised over $9000 to takeover Wall Street...etc...etc". It shows that this community is active and believes in this coin. What does that say to investors and merchants? It says there is a large active community ready to use these coins to buy goods and services. The optics of a community raising money is much more powerful than the optics of one or a few people sponsoring an event.
My plan has always been to use the power of this community to achieve our goal to be #1. Some say I am an egomaniac or I think it is all about me. But if you look at my posts I make it clear that this coin very existence is dependent on our amazing community. If we just focus our energy on specific weekly goals we will be unstoppable.
If you already donated, thank you.
If you haven't donated yet please use on of the address below:
BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT
If you can't donate because of financial reasons that is okay! The day of the event you can help spread the word around the net, money is just piece of the larger puzzle. We are going to need people to really "spam" the hell out of everywhere the day of and after the event.
Lets put this weekend behind us and get back to what we do best, and that is letting the rest of the wold know we are here to stay!
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 BlackCoin Is Going To Wall Street
What is needed to make this a success?
Casting studio rental for day (Cast girls for rvent)
50 Girls for 2 hours
50 T-Shirts
Water For Girls
1000 Cards + Retail Packaging
1000 Sell Sheets
Misc expenses: transportation..snacks...etc..etc
Total budget: $9540
Approximately 73,000 BC at the current exchange rate.
Note: If we can raise $12,000 or more I will be able to hire a professional camera crew to follow the girls around. We can use that video to plaster all over the web and go viral!
Donation addresses:
BC: BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TP
BTC: 12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4
LTC: LT4hiypMuPLYQT2gu3gdMjvAMqhC1w12yJ
DOGE: DRJnZVTP64phDfdoWu5VnKUUSM7p8Tf4MT
I want to thank everyone who has contributed and every donation helps!!!
yes i did already. Looking forwards tor todays $$ update on where we are at. But I'm going to continue to send over my mined BC & anything i get from day trading some other coins I get today. Probably not much, but even little amounts help 10BTC value so far ~4200-4400$ |
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There is no such thing as absolute central control of Blackcoin. By its very definition it is a peer to peer, proof of stake, cryptocurrency. If enough people wanted to go in a different direction they could take control of the code and call for a hard fork. If they get a majority of the stake coins they would control the coin. There is nothing any quasi official or semi official group can do.
There can be 1 foundation or 10 and it doesn't matter. People are free to do as they will. If you don't like the foundation then make another one. It really doesn't matter.
I like the current foundation and I also think Iconic should make his own. Both can exist and do whatever the hell they want. If someone thinks they are doing dumb things then dont donate. But please just go do something or go watch a movie.
Judge Neil / Judge Crypto
I am not interested in forming a second "Foundation", I do not think a Foundation is necessary. What I am interested in doing is empowering the community to make crucial decisions. This community was able to accomplish some incredible things in such a short time span, and that was without the Foundation. I have always said the success or failure of BC will rest on this community. If this community is not inspired or motivated the coin will just eventually die. |
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why are we paying the pr company to give them a plan? if the pr company is doing all the work why do we need a foundation? cant we just find our own pr company and hire them ourselves? http://iconic-vs-soepkip.blogspot.comThat's not very nice. On a related note, this brand new account (with a surprisingly personal fascination for a certain line of projects), seems to have some unique capitalization of Soepkip's name in both the video and the title of the post/blog. Interesting, only one person capitalizes Soepkip's name like "SoepKip" in this whole 1000+ page thread. Probably just a freaky coincidence. Let's all migrate to the www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin and www.blackcointalk.com where the discussions are easier and more constructive (+ no trolls or smurf accounts as of yet)!Wow...you guys never stop...really sad. So you make a stupid video, copied the way I write SoepKips name, and then create a fake account to post the video you created. Then after some "time" you just happen to point out that one piece of "evidence". So now you are going from discrediting to "framing"... Whats next... fake IRC chat logs ..? |
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With all due respect let me be the first to stop. I am not a participant/contributor in your plan so time to stop criticizing your plan, if you succeed we all succeed and profit and can learn from it.
The best way to destroy an organization is from the inside out. I've taken my share of funny comments/attacks back so let me STFU.
The conference call on Thurs was good and if this Wall street thing shows up on CNN then this post will be very upbeat I bet.
Applauses ! Let's go ! Direction : the black moon. Thank you! This is going to be a good week for BC...lets focus on the real goal...sitting at #1 Now there is the iconic that makes me want to keep this coin going Thanks for that post Everyone is allowed to have an off day or two.... |
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