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841  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 18, 2016, 08:20:18 PM
Some people were asking to remove Steem from ICNX... Not today tho...



Bottom line, Dividends from ICNX continues to grow, despite daily ups & down of its underlying cryptos.

I was one of these people.
I kind of fail to see steem long term.. I admit I haven't did a thorough due diligence on the project, though.
842  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 18, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
Hey guys, i'm so bullish on Bitcoin right now and i think we're at the beginning of a strong demand of Bitcoin. I've got the feeling that by summer BTC is around 1500 usdollar. In this bullrun alts are going down faster than i expected even in dollarprice what's up with that? Miners sell all their alts to get a lot of BTC because mining BTC is too hard. My Question to you guys, if Bitcoin becomes mainstream will Iconomi be able to pay dividends at all? Also the 15 procent cap of one crypto is a question to me it would be much better now for the iconomi index to own a lot of BTC right, why the 15 procent. The index is in a downtrend and if i'm right and BTC continues to go higher also the index will go lower and the price of ICN will go lower.
The idea of an crypto indexfund is great but if Iconomi will keep the boundries of the 15 procent i really don't know.
Bitcoin holds about 85% of the value of all blockchains why not in the Iconomi index? If people outside crypto would invest in iconomi it will be more attractive to buy ICN if it holds more BTC. In the end it is all about making money for the ICN holdlers right so maybe let's rethink the 15% cap of one blockchain. If Iconomi was more in BTC the Iconomi Index would be lot higher.

People at work know me as the Bitcoinguy and more and more people starting to get interested and asks questions how to buy BTC, other things like Ethereum they can hardly understand i can tell. It took me 3 years to get some of my colleages the get some BTC but finally there is some motion in the right direction. For the rest of my coworkers i think it will take about 5 more years depending on what the price of BTC does.

The thing about Bitcoin as the currency i like , it's money where the rules and supply are clear and this is easy to explane to most people and if the price goes up it's even better and it will attract more people to this crypto world.

First Bitcoin then Iconomi

Iconomi team get more Bitcoin and i buy ICN

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Also the 15 percent cap of one crypto is a question to me it would be much better now for the iconomi index to own a lot of BTC right, why the 15 percent

check this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/5df4ow/icnx_question/
especially @snkns answers. I had similar confusions and questions (since I don't have financial background) and he explained it perfectly.

You can also check older posts with reply from Jaka:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICONOMI/comments/59px5f/icnx_15_cap/
843  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 18, 2016, 07:01:43 PM

not yet please, can we wait a bit longer?
Smiley

I have a good friend that decided to join the train for 7K euro. He is the second one that joins this sweet ride. With both of them, I just mentioned Iconomi as my primary investment and after they did their own due diligence they decided to buy-in.
The last one is really good friend, totally outside crypto.
It was interesting to watch how he gets sucked into Iconomi.
Wink
844  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 18, 2016, 11:34:11 AM
questions getting more and more stupid Angry

cheer up, tomorrow they are gonna be even more... challenging

845  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 09:48:06 PM
my ignore list is growing... Grin  bitches coming here and telling people what to do..+1  Cool

Mine too. LiskQH is the latest and greatest... for now

846  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 11:22:23 AM
Someone knows where is MR.P?

haven't seen him around lately
847  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 10:57:30 AM
When first dividends wil be payout?

You didn't get yours yet?

You have to go to Iconomi office in Ljubljana, Slovenia in order to pick up a paper wallet that contains your ETH dividends

or ask them to mail them to you. You will get a nice box of dividends
848  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 10:56:38 AM
When first dividends wil be payout?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dividend

check the first sentence and tell try to answer your own question.
849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
Hello
Can you please advise me where I could buy more ICN ?
Except Liqui, Kraken and Gatecoin. Thanks

the black market
Smiley

but seriously, those are your options:
https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/iconomi/#markets

850  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 10:24:45 AM
Does anyone know if ICN dividends will be received directly into myetherwallet ? I keep my ICN in myetherwallet.

DD
i kept my ICN there as well until the team allows me to send it back to the ico. I wonder when can this happen.

Should be around the same time first dividends will be paid. It was asked and answered by the teeam several times here, on reddit and on the last AMA
851  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 17, 2016, 10:21:46 AM
Does anyone know if ICN dividends will be received directly into myetherwallet ? I keep my ICN in myetherwallet.

DD
Yes it does, Even If you want for leaving your coin in there, you will get a definite thing for receiving your dividend. But never hold your token in the exchange wallet. or you will never get a dividend for that. You can read more about it at ICONOMI whitepaper or watch his AMA yesterday.
This already clear with the team statement.


I think that is the reason why exchanges like bittrex and polo can't add ICN on their list due to these dividend issue. If ICONOMI sends weekly dividends to ICN holders, the exchanges has to send ETH for them.

I don't think so. Why should kraken be able to send dividends and polo and bittrex don't? They all got ETH listed.

Kraken don't send dividens to you. If your coins in Kraken you will not get dividens.

How do you know what Kraken will do? They haven't announced yet. They may decide to distribute the dividends to the users, you just don't know that.
They are smart, I believe they will do the right decision and distribute the dividends. Otherwise they will have bad reputation. Liqui already announced that they will not keep the dividends to themselves, Kraken will do the same.
852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 16, 2016, 07:03:37 PM
Really, if I were a whale within the ICN I would play with emotional fish. With that volume in Kraken would be easy.

Trying to manipulate the price is a dangerous game.
One wrong move, and even whales can lose all their precious ICN.
Why risk a +1000% long term profit to a measly %10% to 20% short term risky move?
That's why majority of smart whales are hodling.

well said.
One correction - the majority of smart investors are hodling.
853  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 16, 2016, 06:33:33 PM
once the first dividend payment is made ,,, this will be a massive game changer,, straight to $12 a token. MARK MY WORDS


First dividends won't be so high and attractive from ROI point of view. It can't be, since not much money would be invested in different projects, and the liquidity would not be high enough for healthy weekly profits (exit positions). It will take some time to get to full speed.
The attractive part will be the very fact that dividends are paid.

$12 a token.. I wish we'll get there so fast, but we need to be realistic otherwise the babytrolls will wake up again.
$12 a token represent a mature, fully operating platform with good and stable user-base. I don't see how that can be achieved in few months.
854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 16, 2016, 03:04:15 PM
To unify my "look and feel" I will from now on post from my new account - icojaka.
Will use the same username on reddit as well.
Having weirdgod on a business card could look unprofessional to folks/investors we are trying to bring into the world of crypo Smiley

Here I am.

Jaka
ICONOMI

Hi jaka, how are you doing?

Well, in performance funds you planning a strong marketing like in ICO?
If you looking for it, i can help you with portuguese marketing.

Let me know!

Cya

I don't think they will need much of a marketing for ICNP. IMO it will get filled up pretty fast once they open it for direct investments.
855  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 16, 2016, 02:44:13 PM
To unify my "look and feel" I will from now on post from my new account - icojaka.
Will use the same username on reddit as well.
Having weirdgod on a business card could look unprofessional to folks/investors we are trying to bring into the world of crypo Smiley


why not icnjaka?

EDIT: ico first connotation is ICO, and not Iconomi
856  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 16, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
Looks like someone is on ICN shopping spree again.
857  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 09:49:23 PM
so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

Noooo ... Polo decided after a really serious meeting to list all the shitcoins ... but took the drastic decision not to list ICN ... the devs tryed their best, asked Polo to list it ... but those suns of bitches from Polo just said no ... use your brain please

The butthurt is strong with this one

The truth does hurt apparently   lol
I guess you're just as delusional as Daparski!

I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote
Can you, school boy?

Don't be so angry, you will still do 4x on your allowance money, it will just take a bit longer.
858  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 09:21:28 PM
I wouldn't call in "anything but words".
But maybe it's just me, time will tell.

Not just words ... there were some pictures also and today the biggest news ever .. a 5000 ETH investment ... to the moon ...
I tell you, these guys here really think everyone around is retarded !
Its just speculation, but in a controlled way (that is why the ICN its just on Kraken ... a big whale is pumping now the price, silly people will jump in to buy high (because of course ICN to the moon), then the whales will just buy back cheap in a few weeks. That would be harder to do on Polo as there are way more investors so you cannot really control things.


I couldn't agree more!

Gotta love the gem of an answer on the subject @ the AMA a short while ago...
Q:
Could we get some information about the NDA for the exchanges? What was the reason for this? Why was it decided to just list on Kraken as the main exchange from the start and not on other ones?
A:
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges. The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.

What a croc!

So they have ensured a deadlock situation because we would logically like - for the purposes of trading - for ICN to be listed on poloniex and bittrex, but the ICN dev team refuses to approach these two exchanges about it. yet these two exchangee REQUIRE the development team to approach them before they will consider listing the coin...

So i guess we'll have to do without it on the two main exchanges til thy kingdom come.  lol

You two should get a room together and cry on each other shoulder. No polo for now, suck it up.

And you can quote selectively from the original post as much as you like, I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote:
Quote from: Daparski
FAR, FAR away from "anything but words".
Iconomi has a: killer use-case, impeccable timing, clear roadmap, A+ team with tons of relevant experience to execute it, almost ready platform,
~6M usd for development, and another~4.5M usd pre seeded investment fund.
And no competition in the horizon
859  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
I wouldn't call in "anything but words".
But maybe it's just me, time will tell.

Not just words ... there were some pictures also and today the biggest news ever .. a 5000 ETH investment ... to the moon ...
I tell you, these guys here really think everyone around is retarded !
Its just speculation, but in a controlled way (that is why the ICN its just on Kraken ... a big whale is pumping now the price, silly people will jump in to buy high (because of course ICN to the moon), then the whales will just buy back cheap in a few weeks. That would be harder to do on Polo as there are way more investors so you cannot really control things.

so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

That's correct yes. Pretty obvious actually.

who, devs? I seriously doubt that.
860  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: November 15, 2016, 09:13:03 PM
Something to think about.

The ICN index fund holds around 15% DASH.

If ICONOMI decide to run DASH masternodes (1000 DASH per node) this will generate income of about 1.9-2.0 DASH per 7-10 days on average.

Their are a few calcs around that i will dig up and post, however it's about a 9-10% return for running a masternode.

What does this mean?  Another potential income stream to add value to the fund and even out the bumps or help compound.

My mind now turns to the potential for LISK and forging as a possible income stream for the ICN Index.

Fun times  Grin

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The ICN index fund holds around 15% DASH.

The ICNX fund holds 0 currencies. Currently it is only an index - it just trucks the currencies based on the predefined rules.
Once the funds becomes active, and people decide to invest in it, only then it will have actual assets.

But the idea is good.
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