[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[Daparski]

I wouldn't call in "anything but words".
But maybe it's just me, time will tell.

Not just words ... there were some pictures also and today the biggest news ever .. a 5000 ETH investment ... to the moon ...
I tell you, these guys here really think everyone around is retarded !
Its just speculation, but in a controlled way (that is why the ICN its just on Kraken ... a big whale is pumping now the price, silly people will jump in to buy high (because of course ICN to the moon), then the whales will just buy back cheap in a few weeks. That would be harder to do on Polo as there are way more investors so you cannot really control things.

so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

That's correct yes. Pretty obvious actually.

who, devs? I seriously doubt that.

[rapazev]

so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

That's correct yes. Pretty obvious actually.

who? only ICN could be going against polo listing... and even tho i think they are, it would be more like "we dont want it, but, if they list it there's no problem".

[Robuloe]

When ICN will be listing at poloniex or bittrex?

[Daparski]

I wouldn't call in "anything but words".
But maybe it's just me, time will tell.

Not just words ... there were some pictures also and today the biggest news ever .. a 5000 ETH investment ... to the moon ...
I tell you, these guys here really think everyone around is retarded !
Its just speculation, but in a controlled way (that is why the ICN its just on Kraken ... a big whale is pumping now the price, silly people will jump in to buy high (because of course ICN to the moon), then the whales will just buy back cheap in a few weeks. That would be harder to do on Polo as there are way more investors so you cannot really control things.

I couldn't agree more!

Gotta love the gem of an answer on the subject @ the AMA a short while ago...
Q:
Could we get some information about the NDA for the exchanges? What was the reason for this? Why was it decided to just list on Kraken as the main exchange from the start and not on other ones?
A:
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges. The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.

What a croc!

So they have ensured a deadlock situation because we would logically like - for the purposes of trading - for ICN to be listed on poloniex and bittrex, but the ICN dev team refuses to approach these two exchanges about it. yet these two exchangee REQUIRE the development team to approach them before they will consider listing the coin...

So i guess we'll have to do without it on the two main exchanges til thy kingdom come.  lol

You two should get a room together and cry on each other shoulder. No polo for now, suck it up.

And you can quote selectively from the original post as much as you like, I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote:

FAR, FAR away from "anything but words".
Iconomi has a: killer use-case, impeccable timing, clear roadmap, A+ team with tons of relevant experience to execute it, almost ready platform,
~6M usd for development, and another~4.5M usd pre seeded investment fund.
And no competition in the horizon

[favdesu]

Something to think about.

The ICN index fund holds around 15% DASH.

If ICONOMI decide to run DASH masternodes (1000 DASH per node) this will generate income of about 1.9-2.0 DASH per 7-10 days on average.

Their are a few calcs around that i will dig up and post, however it's about a 9-10% return for running a masternode.

What does this mean?  Another potential income stream to add value to the fund and even out the bumps or help compound.

My mind now turns to the potential for LISK and forging as a possible income stream for the ICN Index.

Fun times 

The ICN index fund holds around 15% DASH.

The ICNX fund holds 0 currencies. Currently it is only an index - it just trucks the currencies based on the predefined rules.
Once the funds becomes active, and people decide to invest in it, only then it will have actual assets.

But the idea is good.

that wouldn't be too bad. sounds like a great idea & recurring income is always a good thing.

[Nachbar90]

I wouldn't call in "anything but words".
But maybe it's just me, time will tell.

Not just words ... there were some pictures also and today the biggest news ever .. a 5000 ETH investment ... to the moon ...
I tell you, these guys here really think everyone around is retarded !
Its just speculation, but in a controlled way (that is why the ICN its just on Kraken ... a big whale is pumping now the price, silly people will jump in to buy high (because of course ICN to the moon), then the whales will just buy back cheap in a few weeks. That would be harder to do on Polo as there are way more investors so you cannot really control things.

I couldn't agree more!

Gotta love the gem of an answer on the subject @ the AMA a short while ago...
Q:
Could we get some information about the NDA for the exchanges? What was the reason for this? Why was it decided to just list on Kraken as the main exchange from the start and not on other ones?
A:
NDAs require from us not to comment on our relationships with the exchanges. The listing of ICN is purely the exchange’s decision. Kraken is one of the exchanges that decided to list us for the time being.

What a croc!

So they have ensured a deadlock situation because we would logically like - for the purposes of trading - for ICN to be listed on poloniex and bittrex, but the ICN dev team refuses to approach these two exchanges about it. yet these two exchangee REQUIRE the development team to approach them before they will consider listing the coin...

So i guess we'll have to do without it on the two main exchanges til thy kingdom come.  lol

You two should get a room together and cry on each other shoulder. No polo for now, suck it up.

And you can quote selectively from the original post as much as you like, I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote:

FAR, FAR away from "anything but words".
Iconomi has a: killer use-case, impeccable timing, clear roadmap, A+ team with tons of relevant experience to execute it, almost ready platform,
~6M usd for development, and another~4.5M usd pre seeded investment fund.
And no competition in the horizon

+1

[$1vEr.$urfer]

so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

Noooo ... Polo decided after a really serious meeting to list all the shitcoins ... but took the drastic decision not to list ICN ... the devs tryed their best, asked Polo to list it ... but those suns of bitches from Polo just said no ... use your brain please

The butthurt is strong with this one

The truth does hurt apparently   lol
I guess you're just as delusional as Daparski!

[Daparski]

so you are saying that someone is preventing polo from listing ICN?

Noooo ... Polo decided after a really serious meeting to list all the shitcoins ... but took the drastic decision not to list ICN ... the devs tryed their best, asked Polo to list it ... but those suns of bitches from Polo just said no ... use your brain please

The butthurt is strong with this one

The truth does hurt apparently   lol
I guess you're just as delusional as Daparski!

I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote
Can you, school boy?

Don't be so angry, you will still do 4x on your allowance money, it will just take a bit longer.

[ruletheworld]

Something to think about.

The ICN index fund holds around 15% DASH.

If ICONOMI decide to run DASH masternodes (1000 DASH per node) this will generate income of about 1.9-2.0 DASH per 7-10 days on average.

Their are a few calcs around that i will dig up and post, however it's about a 9-10% return for running a masternode.

What does this mean?  Another potential income stream to add value to the fund and even out the bumps or help compound.

My mind now turns to the potential for LISK and forging as a possible income stream for the ICN Index.

Fun times 

Umm the ICN index fund isn't live yet, but you have a point. I wonder if the ICONOMI team can give a public statement that all the proof of stake type coins will be staked by ICONOMI and the returns distributed to the index holders/ICN holders. That should be an excellent source of return for ICN investors.

[$1vEr.$urfer]

Polo has so many shit coins, why you want ICN on it?

Why I want ICN on it? The question is why not? What bad thing could happen if ICN would be listed there? These are the questions ... not you try and find a decent answer

Easy answer - ICN will be another coin to play with for the big whales just like any other shitcoin there.
Price won't represent the REAL value of Iconomi, but some close-group heavy traders short price manipulations.

What an utter load of hogwash!!   lol

Are u really that stupid??

[Nachbar90]

Polo has so many shit coins, why you want ICN on it?

Why I want ICN on it? The question is why not? What bad thing could happen if ICN would be listed there? These are the questions ... not you try and find a decent answer

Easy answer - ICN will be another coin to play with for the big whales just like any other shitcoin there.
Price won't represent the REAL value of Iconomi, but some close-group heavy traders short price manipulations.

What an utter load of hogwash!!   lol

Are u really that stupid??

Let me answer that for him: Yes, he is

[$1vEr.$urfer]

Where do I talk in your name LOL.  

Also don't worry, it will get eventually on Polo, they just want to avoid Trollbox FUD scenarios I guess.

When you say "ICN doesn't need to be on Polo" you are basically talking in my name too, as I also own ICN ...
Of course it will go on polo in the end, after the whales (and probably Polo) will have bought enough cheap ICN so they can dump them and make a big profit.

I wish that people start to forget about polo.

People are needy, and being needy is not an advantage.
Every thread is the same.. Omg it will go to the sky when polo adds it, omg don't forget to make a request to polo.

As if they need you to know what a decent coin is, as if they live in a cavern and don't follow the crypto business at all, with their crazy monthly profits.

That is so silly. That poloniex formular is simply a joke, from the long past when polo was a little exchange probably and if not, it's still a joke.

If you knew anything about trading altcoins you'd know that Poloniex is BY FAR the best exhange in the world!
Your'e obviously NOT a trader... so stop talking rubbish.
Your ignorance on the topic is nausiating...

[Keyboard PC]

Where do I talk in your name LOL.  

Also don't worry, it will get eventually on Polo, they just want to avoid Trollbox FUD scenarios I guess.

When you say "ICN doesn't need to be on Polo" you are basically talking in my name too, as I also own ICN ...
Of course it will go on polo in the end, after the whales (and probably Polo) will have bought enough cheap ICN so they can dump them and make a big profit.

I wish that people start to forget about polo.

People are needy, and being needy is not an advantage.
Every thread is the same.. Omg it will go to the sky when polo adds it, omg don't forget to make a request to polo.

As if they need you to know what a decent coin is, as if they live in a cavern and don't follow the crypto business at all, with their crazy monthly profits.

That is so silly. That poloniex formular is simply a joke, from the long past when polo was a little exchange probably and if not, it's still a joke.

If you knew anything about trading altcoins you'd know that Poloniex is BY FAR the best exhange in the world!
Your'e obviously NOT a trader... so stop talking rubbish.
Your ignorance on the topic is nausiating...

Poloniex including one idol of the developers altcoin almost all hope that the coin  can be traded in poloniex exception Iconomi
The existence of coin in poloniex can increase the volume of trade so obviously poloniex is the largest excahnger related altcoin exchanger

[rgornik]

When ICN will be listing at poloniex or bittrex?

I think @Daparski can answer you this 

[petricag]

And you can quote selectively from the original post as much as you like, I still challenge you to prove me wrong about what I wrote:

FAR, FAR away from "anything but words".
Iconomi has a: killer use-case, impeccable timing, clear roadmap, A+ team with tons of relevant experience to execute it, almost ready platform,
~6M usd for development, and another~4.5M usd pre seeded investment fund.
And no competition in the horizon

- killer use-case  --> bla bla bla .... stories
- impeccable timing ---> why is this such a big timing? ICOs there always were .. and will be, altcoins going up and down ... ? what its so special about it ? Aaaaa ... currency issues all over the world ? Then you would invest in BTC ... the rest is stories
- clear roadmap ---> stories ... bla bla bla ... milestones taken out of context like: # ICN listed on major exchanges (normal people thinking about Polo/Trex, they scamed us with some shitty Kraken) # the fund launched this year ( people expecting a big chunk of money invested so dividends would really come up ... they invested 5000 ETH in some ICO ... whaoooo .. that trully something, cann't argue with that. )
- A+ team with tons of relevant experience to execute it --- > tons ? A site with a form asking you to send money via bank so you can buy ETH ? I can quickly buy ETH / BTC with my visa card from alot of other places ... so really ... what relevant experience ?
- almost ready platform, ->>>> stories and some pics.
- ~6M usd for development, and another~4.5M usd pre seeded investment fund. --->>> money that we'll never see back ... the rest is just stories. And let's not forget 5000 ETH invested already ... this team is ... to the mooon ...
- And no competition in the horizon ---> competitors to what ? To take your money ? ) ... oh boy ... there are always ICOs promising you all kind of BS.

[malcovixeffect]

so, im trying to withdraw some btc in kraken and the status is on-hold for 10 minutes now. Is this normal from kraken?

[petricag]

Don't be so angry, you will still do 4x on your allowance money, it will just take a bit longer.

For a 4x profit you can send those money to bitsler ... you might just get lucky.
If you read the WP and all the marketing you have to expect at least a 10x ... even 20x ...
So come on true believers .... pump it up ... make iconomi great again ... and all the BS

[petricag]

so, im trying to withdraw some btc in kraken and the status is on-hold for 10 minutes now. Is this normal from kraken?

Yes its normal. Don't worry ... I've seen it several times

[sussex]

so, im trying to withdraw some btc in kraken and the status is on-hold for 10 minutes now. Is this normal from kraken?

I seem to recall that you need to click a link in an email they send you.

[martinholly167]

https://cryptowat.ch/kraken/icnbtc/4h