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8501  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 25, 2022, 04:14:02 AM

I think there are fight that is being sanction for 10 rounds, specially young prospects like 10 fights or less. But as far as the gloves goes, I remember Manny loving the Cleto gloves or it is Reyes gloves, both weight but the difference is that one is a puncher gloves and then the others to protect the hands or something like that.

So I guess the boxing organizations really done everything to protect the fighters in a brutal knockout, but inevitable that they really punch so hard that it can damage their opponent for good.

Well, certainly the gloves thing is something additional, for us it is more exciting that they have light gloves, because the speed of the blows is much greater, and if we could talk about great things that would make boxing bigger and with more options to have emotions in the fans, if they change the gloves to be lighter I think it would attract more people, but the bad thing is that blows like that, it's like you say, would cause permanent damage to the person, however I know what that is, because in part when it comes to boxing those gloves are somewhat softer that they don't hurt, in Hapkido the gloves are softer, and I know that sometimes they do do some damage.
Fewer rounds for the beginners until they earned enough experience and ready for 10 and 12 rounds.

I saw it before, they weigh the boxers boxing gloves. So they are in the same weight. Cleto Reyes was very popular before. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Pacquiao and many Mexicans wear it because it is harder. But I don't see anymore boxers using Cleto Reyes. Many boxers now want to use gloves that can protect their hands more. Mayweather too wears gloves that can add protection to his fragile hands. Rival is what I can see most often, I think it is a new brand. Loma uses that Rival gloves. 

That might do but that won't guarantee safety, researchers are still digging what to do to reduce the chances of these incidents. There are some overhauls in the industry way back 1980 and established a 10-round fight but as years goes by, it was again back to a 12-round fight.

Cleto Reyes from Mexico are quite famous in the early 2000-2010 because they said that it was so comfortable that boxers tend to forgot that they are wearing gloves but now, boxers tend to choose Grant gloves and Everlast more than Cleto as it gives both protection from their knuckles and it also weigh lighter.

Well I'm not, but in my personal opinion, I've always liked the old school style, 12 rounds and I really don't care much about the gloves, for me the gloves are details that are used to protect , I don't think it's bad that they are to protect the faces of the boxers, there are still times when they get quite injured, I consider that a blow like the ones a boxer gives could harm anyone, even among themselves, it would be more bloody, and I think that so many bruises their faces would get as if they had a botox treatment that would turn out very badly, they would have to cut their faces to be able to see (something like what happened in the Rocky movies) I don't think it's the idea either.

Interesting fight between Paul and Silva, if I remember it right Silva is already pursuing his career into boxing after UFC, he have the fundamentals and with his speed I'm sure it will be tough for Paul to box him, though for sure there's a script here and we don't know what's the plan behind doors, just wanted to see talent and skills coming from Silva while watching and the rest will be part of the entertainment..
Well, we've been all suspicious when there's a match that involves the Paul brothers. We can't be sure what they're up to especially if the subject is all about being competitive.
After all, these are all matches that they've been making up and they're the ones making the contracts and agreements that would be favorable to them but beneficial to the chosen opponents like Silva and the others. The good thing here is that they're giving probably generous contracts to these fighters that they box.
It is like that, but there is a detail that not everyone knows very well, only those of us who have been in this sport, and that is that when you are in a sport like the UFC or in a sport like Hapkido or similar, it is always much easier in terms of to resistance, because to switch to boxing the change is very strong, first in technique and second that it is much more demanding, also when fighting against a boxer they are much faster and their blows are equivalent to as if they were hitting you with bricks, They have a lot of strength and if you're not very strong it's easy to get knocked out, that's why Silva may have hit you harder, however he knows what the sport is like and has a successful adoption, he may be very quick to learn .


Former boxing heavyweight champion Mike Tyson often stuns his fans with his out-of-the-blue one-liners. The veteran athlete was recently seen in a wheelchair in a frail condition. He was suffering from sciatica flare-up; a lower-back medical condition. Even though he recovered from his sickness, he went through a period where he had trouble walking and even used a walking stick to move around.
Mike Tyson might be suffering from the injury in the past, and might have caught up with him now that he's aging. Tyson is always training and engaging in tournaments inother to win titles and add to his collection. He did have better moment as champion, we know how he sustain crucial injury when he was still young as an ambitious fighter and he's fearless and ruthless in challenges. Mike is 56 years and seeing him in a wheelchair is totally devastating for a man like him, he's strong and he will definitely pass this terrific phase. The big question is, can he still get up strongly on his fit again?

Indeed Mike Tyson is so ambitious and made me remember one of his interviews where he was asked who will he want to fight in the history if he will be given a chance, guess what he answered? It's Achilles, the Greek Warrior who was the brain and hero of the Trojan war. That's how ambitious he is and I don't think of any fighter or boxer who is more fit to answer that question. Tyson in his era is really one of the greatest and I do think that nobody would argue with that. Now, I think it's time to hang up his dreams because he already done enough, it's time to think of his health first and to take that wheelchair out before anything else.
Well, but what happens is that Tyson has a very advanced sciatic nerve, it's strange because I know that the sciatic nerve has a lot of treatment, what I imagine is that he must have associated hernias and that's what keeps him in the wheelchair, etnonces when saying that he is very good at wanting to face a being like that, yes, I do not doubt it, I thought he was going to say that Ali, but he himself recognized that Ali was better than him in an interview that he was there, then Also, in spite of everything, I think he knows very well the respect he gave Ali at that time, that speaks very well of him, about that commander who says, that is already closer to his morbidity.
8502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: October 25, 2022, 03:40:17 AM
Although Manchester United won this match, Everton played well. Ronaldo's goal was really beautiful. But I see Ronaldo can't run as fast as before. But after such a long time, this goal of his will calm him down to some extent. Hopefully, Ronaldo will be able to make his fans happy by using tactics.
Look at how he celebrated the goal.  I only saw him do that this time, and maybe it was his new celebration. What a happiness he might be looking forward to, again making goals. His face really made him want the goal. At least he's trying to give his best for his team. Seeing that I was happy as well as sad. Sad because maybe he will soon become a legend. Sad because his great desires are no longer supported by physical circumstances.

I can't deny, I felt a lot of emotion when CR7 was going to enter, at first I was very angry that Ten Hag didn't put him in the team again, I felt powerless and in part to me Everton is a team that doesn't seem bad to me, It seems to me that they play very well and also there is Salomón Rondón, which they put him in last and I think that Lampard is somewhat capricious with the South Americans, however it has been shown that capricious coaches do badly.

Nor can I ignore the fact that I would not go for Everton, because I like how the "stake.com" looks on the shirt, and yes, I was going for Everton, but at the moment that CR7 everything changed, especially when I saw the assistance that Casemiro himself gave to CR7, for me CR7 had the right speed, he didn't have to run faster, they weren't going to catch him either, and the way he hit the ball fascinated me, he looked very subtle with technique and elegance, I knew that "El Bicho" was back.

Why is arsenal not considered as title contenders, they are doing great right now, but when you talk about them, we talk about how they would qualify for the champions League next season but not them winning the premier League, I think that's because of Manchester City,but what arsenal played against Liverpool you will now that they are not joking,they outplayed Liverpool from Start to finish, even when their goals are being equalise they still keep going and don't want to take draw for an answer.

The last time Arsenal made it to Champions League was the 2015/16 season and they didn't win Premier League, Leicester city did, now you see why people are talking about making it to the Champions League instead of the EPL. They have always ended up most often in the 5th place and now they are very desperate this time but the question is, will the consistency continues till the end of the season, their points difference between Manchester City, and Tottenham is too close and any slight mistake will make Manchester city to give them gap in points hunting in their matches, especially now they are using Haaland to scare other teams.

I can't deny that the game between Arsenal and Liverpool was very, very exciting, it made my Sunday very fruitful and made it very enjoyable for me, of course ARSENAL's goals were on another level, I can't deny that I didn't like it when they served to Mo Salah, for me it was a bad decision by Klop, a star does not deserve to be removed from such an important match, a star must do his job until the end, however I give all the credit to Arsenal, most of the bets were on favor to Liverpool, and I think the ARSENAL players were so connected to each other that they made Liverpool look like they were playing in a final.


Casemiro was not free from mistakes in this game, but he also played well. Before Cristiano Ronaldo's goal he had made a mistake in his pass but he can take responsibility for the mistake he made and managed to win the ball again. In the end he passed to Cristiano Ronaldo and it was a goal. He has to reduce the number of mistakes in every appearance, but it seems that is part of the adaptation. If he can continue to improve and make as few mistakes as possible then I believe he will be stronger in guarding areas of Manchester United.

You're absolutely right, when I saw that they took the ball from Casemiro I said to myself "It can't be" Casemiro is the starter and that's what happens! In the same way, Casmiro has a very high morale, he managed to remain calm and gave great assistance to CR7, that was something that erased the first mistake, thank God this time things went well for CR7 and Casemiro, at one point I he reminded when they were playing in Real Madrid, I think that those ties they made in Madrid moved him to that game, both CR7 and Casemiro have really taught Ten Hag a tremendous lesson, I don't know if he put them in out of desperation or out of pressure, but that's how you show people when they're wrong.



Casemiro showed what he brings to Manchester United in two seconds vs Everton



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Pitting Casemiro and Eriksen against an athletic midfield trio of Onana, Idrissa Gueye and Alex Iwobi had an element of risk yet United were always bound to have more of the ball and that had to inform Ten Hag's selection of Casemiro in his first Premier League start.

It is churlish to compare Casemiro and Scott McTominay and a glaring difference is the former's ability on the ball. His piercing pass for Ronaldo is a skill that is beyond the bustling McTominay.

Source: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/man-united-casemiro-everton-news-25220250

I hope that things continue to go very well for Man United, let's see if Ten Hag manages to come to his senses, we all have the right to make mistakes, but also to correct mistakes, we have to wait and see what the Dutchman comes up with later.
Although Manchester United won against Everton, the most comforting thing was that Cristiano Ronaldo scored. His celebration after scoring showed how important this goal was for him. I hope he will play with confidence now and score goals. But Everton played well they tried their best but they couldn't win.
Yes, Everton is a very big team, and it has some very formidable players, in fact Lampard has many options for players, but I think he still doesn't know how to get the most out of them, I can't deny that as a player he was very good, for me he was one of the best, he has a lot of class when he makes his aces, plays, but I think that at Everton he still lacks a lot of experience, they have players who make him come out very well in games and who usually make goal plays that save him any game, for me it lacks a little more strategy, to make some formations that help him much more to understand the game that they can be given, but I could say that they are improving.


It will be a Shame if Liverpool didn't qualify for the champions League position next season, because the way they are going I don't think there is much hope for them, even right now the likes of Manchester United are better than them in terms of position and form same with Chelsea, I think if they continue like this till November then is finished for them, I can't believe Sadio mane absence can affect them like this, he is truly missed at anfield, I know some section of the fans will be asking their selves why is it not Mohamed Salah that left us.
To qualify for the Champions League next season or you could say the target of the top 4 until the competition is over, I think Liverpool chances are still quite big because this season's round has many games left. but seeing Liverpool performance this season they are really not in their best condition because when Liverpool met with a low-ranking team, Liverpool had to accept defeat, they should have maximized such a match to get full points. Newcastle united is better than liverpool this season no doubt it looks like this season many surprises will come in every game.

Well I think that there is still a lot to do, Liverpool will undoubtedly be one of the best, for now it may be that they have some lost, but I am sure that Mo Salah will make them in the UCL, there is no doubt about it, I know that the competition gets much tougher than normal, what they have to do in PL is a feat, because the level of the teams is very high, honestly if I see Liverpool in the UCL, but what they have to correct is that they should ensure the wins, then there is no room for Liverpool to lose these next games and it does not mean that the other teams are bad, but that Liverpol can no longer lose more points.



Half time is almost over but no goals yet, will both teams play it safe and share the points?
Actually I agree with you that West Ham has the potential to win apart from the home team factor
they are also motivated to stay away from relegation especially when Leicester and Nottingham also won.
The first half was over and Kurt Zouma scored in the last minute of normal time which put West ham now temporarily ahead over Bournemouth.
Actually this is a good thing because throughout this first half West ham really dominated and this opening goal could have added in the second half later if Bournemouth did not develop their game.
With the system of Bournemouth now i dont think that they will equalize this game because West Ham want to protect this goal, to assume that they have defeated them,  but the way I'm seeing the match west ham really dominate and they don't want to give chance of Bournemouth to equalize the match,  which i believe that west ham will defeat the match is they use this remaining time to play more of defensive game.
Finally West Ham has managed to win against Bournemouth and West Ham was so solid in this match. A lot of shots from the end of West Ham and they have won the match by 2-0. Poor performance from Bournemouth and they need to focus on their attacking lineup.
Yes ! West Ham 2-0 Bournemouth, this team is so awesome getting a score in the last minute, with 3 points earned today West Ham have successfully sit to number Ten for awhile. Bournemouth must be able to strengthen their defence, next matches against Tottenham, by seeing today matches I'm not sure Bournemouth will get points in that match.

I see West Ham very well, I see them with good defense and attack, for me West Ham has to ensure, because a 10th place is not so bad, but the same to be in the top of the first 4 I think it is somewhat difficult, I think that now, in order to be more successful, they should put a little more forwards from the middle towards a single point (the one that runs the most) so that this is the one that wears out the most and the other two forwards should be on the sides so that they open up the game more just up front.

Now in the case of Bournemouth, if they have to do something with that defense, it is very easy to enter any forward who leaves them behind, I would make a formation much more focused on defense and counterattack.



Well and the ties of the PL with the Bundesliga we have this very interesting:

Former Germany international tips Jude Bellingham for Premier League amid United links



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Borussia Dortmund star Jude Bellingham has been tipped to join a Premier League side next summer.

The England international, 19, has quickly established himself at Borussia Dortmund as one of the leaders and Pep Guardiola raved about him in his pre-match press conference on Tuesday.

Manchester City take on Borussia Dortmund in the Champions League tomorrow night and Bellingham will be looking to make it two in as many games against the Premier League champions, who have been linked with a summer move for the midfielder.

Source: https://strettynews.com/2022/10/24/lothar-matthaus-tips-jude-bellingham-for-premier-league-move/

Cristiano Ronaldo desire to exit manchester united should not be a big slap on united because they're winning games without his presence. Ronaldo devalued in old Trafford because of age and Erik ten Hag always make sensible statements publicly about the player but he always keep him on the bench after promising good fair treatment in the club. I'm fully given Ronaldo my support, he might be considered alone in the team but not for long, just some hard time for him and how hard it's getting him to be on his feet.
so true. and Cristiano Ronaldo hasn't even been given much of a chance since the season started. too much on the bench makes every play instinct dulled. but indeed the age factor has also made Cristiano Ronaldo's performance to decline. but actually Cristiano ronaldo is still playing well. especially if he was given more opportunities since the beginning of the season. but unfortunately Cristiano Ronaldo is only given more opportunities when against teams that are considered quite weak. and I think that kind of thing makes Cristiano Ronaldo a little underappreciated. so we can see Cristiano ronaldo being uncomfortable playing. but we don't know what's really going on inside the club. I still wish the best for Manchester United and also for Cristiano Ronaldo.

The CR7 thing is something very sad, a technical director like Ten for me does not represent but one more of the bunch, I don't even see a respectable career, on the other hand, CR7 is a world icon, I don't know, there is a lot of speculation that CR7 will leave to Napoli, others say that he will go to Real Madrid (which I doubt) and the strongest rumor is that he will go to Chelsea, if so I would like to, but that he disputes the UCL after the World Cup, that they put him in and hopefully Man United manages to qualify for the next UCL so that he has to play the team of that moment of Ten so that CR7 can get the nail with that coach, there is nothing better in football than that, to show that he was wrong.
8503  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 25, 2022, 02:44:58 AM
KYC is very important because it is the key to their authenticity, the subject is complicated, but both sides must be understood.
That's tough. Majority of the gamblers including me will continue hating on KYC due to various reasons which is why it's very, very difficult for both sides of the KYC debate to reach a mutual consensus.

I'd say bear market will make them get benefit since gamblers will try to gamble more in order to get profit from bear market and the fees is much lower due to the network aren't busy.
That makes zero sense. Gamblers will try to gamble less due to the bear market which will directly cause these gambling sites to earn less in the short-term.

yes, like many cat and mouse games this will be a never ending debate with the probable outcome of KYC policies getting more and more restrict over time, and possible some decentralized alternatives appearing here and there
Whether we do like it or not, there's no other path we would really be seeing or taking but to have those KYC sooner or on later years, considering that regulation and laws becomes even more tighter as the years passing.Good thing we do have here is that we do still have options which other platforms would really be taking the place into those who had fallen into that KYC set-up.
We've seen that there are still lots of platforms or companies that doesnt apply that KYC this is why we do still have choice or option to take.
I do agree that this is really indeed a never ending debate or talks about KYC.

Most people would agree that KYC was inevitable, but the most worrying and shocking thing here is that the casino is anonymous (it is located in an uncertain part) and the owner of the casino is anonymous, the license of the casino is from a country where the laws are lenient or in certain cases, they don't even have a license, so this same casino asks customers to KYC (deliver their precious documents) to remember that when doing KYC the person delivers an identity document and proof of address, that is, the owner of the anonymous casino is knowing where every customer lives in detail but the customer has never seen the casino owner's face and doesn't even know where the heck the casino is located, so what part of that is fair?
Well sometimes an owner can be many owners, this may be a reason why the owner is anonymous, although that is not an excuse, however when one sees a casino with a high reputation and with very good confidence one can think that the casino has security that influences everything related to its clients and most active players, it's like I say, if there is a casino that is just coming out, for me it would be a much higher risk to leave a KYC, really in all the systems that exist in the world there is always information and details that give our whereabouts, for all of us we have seen that a casino with a great reputation, in this case like Robobet, I do not care if it has an anonymous owner or not, I only care that the casino be safe, trustworthy and that my money will not be taken by scammers.

No doubt Roobet has acquired a good reputation in the market. I have reviewed many users' reviews and barely found any negative thoughts against a single user. Also, the wide range of games collection and the fast withdrawal and deposit process has made it an unbeatable casino compared to the other casinos. So keep it up, guys.

It is very good that you have chosen that path, in all casino sites or on any platform, there will always be someone who wants to speak ill of a casino just out of envy, sometimes it is resentment because they play in a casino and lose, so they are bad losers and they believe that the casino took their money or stole it, that is something that always happens, but the important thing is that here in the forum there will always be many people who are from the trusted system DT of the forum who will give the approval to Roobet, and this will make them trust more in the casino, besides the fact that the casino is very good, they always do art contests to give the opportunity to win big.

8504  Economy / Gambling / Re: DUELBITS ASK FOR KYC WHEN YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR EARNED PROFITS on: October 25, 2022, 02:11:44 AM
Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

Well, this is something that nobody likes, complying with a KYC is synonymous with something that always slows us down, either because we don't like to give out the data, because of the problem that we don't want leaked data or things that happen with our data, but as many have said, privacy and anonymity is a right but in these times that will end, and one of the things that casino sites can do everything legal is to require KYC to be able to have legality and authenticity due to that many licenses require it, and the most important thing for a site is to have everything within the framework of the law, and although KYC does not guarantee security, they are the protocols that must currently be followed in all casinos.

We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.
I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.

for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.
I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.
KYC issues for me are mainly sought by governments and obviously by banks, it is a way of following up on what people want to pursue and do, this is something that is already normal for me, it does not seem strange to me that a government wants to have control of everything, obviously in casinos through licenses it is the easiest way to enter and obtain all kinds of information, this is something that is not very good, but that every player should know, it is not the fault of the casino, as this is something that slips out of the hands of any player who wants anonymity. In the case of some sites that always want to be without this, they will probably go to war with you because they require KYC.
8505  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are we going to recover or continue to dump? on: October 24, 2022, 01:45:16 AM
What are your current opinions on the cryptocurrency market?
This was asked in June 27 2022 when bitcoin traded around $31,792.55 and since then price has been on a consistent dip. Bitcoin is not an asset that can be predicted with chart patterns or news. We trade according to the trend. If it says buy we obey, if it says sell we equally obey and if it say pause we obey.  My current opinion on the crypto market now is obedient to what ever pattern the market forms until a massive bull trend resumes.

So far there's nothing we can do but to follow any sentiments if we are in a day trade business, but if we are aiming for long-term investment.

Buying and holding give us a better chance of compensating huge profits when the market start to pump high.
Though it's not easy for it is, as most of the time we are being controlled by our emotions even we already have
the experienced with the situation, it can't be removed that due to volatility we are still following market sentiments.
Emotions would be the primary enemy of ours when we do make our investment decisions since this would really be making you hesitating whether you would buy or sell on a particular condition.

Speaking or asking out about market condition then it would really be that hard.There's no way that we could really able to predict on where it would be going but somehow it could

really be done via those analysis been made but it would really be still remaining to be speculative as usual.We dont know on where these market going
and that what makes things always been a challenge.

It will always be a challenge, but I think that the current situation in the world complicates things more, and perhaps the meaning of all this is going to be an overturning, due to the war rages between RUSSIA and Ukraine and already the president Ruso warned that if Ukraine enters NATO then the 3rd world war will occur, so it is very difficult to operate when there are all these types of threats, at least for me it is very difficult because I am not clear, so I think that my style of trading It is to operate in the medium-long term. I would change in the short term, which I think I would feel safer doing because I feel that I would have more control, but it would not be as fast.

8506  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it best to have a personal trading strategy? on: October 23, 2022, 10:37:46 PM
When the bull run is a good time to make a profit by selling potential coins,
whereas when a bear market many people take advantage of the moment to buy some potential coins and hold them,
apart from that actually it depends on each strategy
That is exactly how some people become rich, and it looks overnight to certain people as well who fails to do it.

Last time we had it in 2021 when the prices went up, I had a friend who was holding coins since 2018, he kept on buying more and more of them, and since they were really cheap he bought a lot of them as well, ETH was as low as 100 dollars and less for a while before that, and went as high as over 4k+ just to give one example, if you invested 10k dollars into that, you would have 400k+ dollars, and that's just one example. He collected for 2+ years, and when the time comes his 20-30k dollar investments became millions of dollars and that wasn't too hard, just buy and hold.

Well, there is something that I have learned, and it is that through some books that I have read, it has made me know that some very famous merchants, from the era of the years 1800-1900, they operated with technical analysis, but in their base personal, sometimes, only sometimes they paid attention to what they could sense could happen, this is something very strange, but a very famous trader that strategy worked for him, so intuition is something very personal, sometimes in trading It works, and despite the fact that it is something very crazy, or something that not everyone would do, but if there is that personal conviction, I think it could give him a lot of money, I think that counts as a very personal strategy.
8507  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My exorbitant lessons in last bull market on: October 23, 2022, 09:37:04 PM
We frequently go through these things since we are heavily impacted by cryptocurrency investors nearby, but it's also crucial that we learn from our errors. Before making an investment, we should always educate ourselves and conduct thorough research to avoid falling victim to hype or even believing in FUD and FOMOS. Understanding both the state of the market and the status of currencies will always be advantageous. Be as wary as you can while choosing coins because most of them merely achieve a favorable pricing during the buzz.

It is true what you say, because when we operate with news, we can lose a lot, so you have to know how to interpret the news, in my case I understood that sometimes bad news means buying and good news selling, because that is what Bitcoin Whale is like, because obviously a good news will make many want to buy while the whales want to sell, so the whales sell their btc while the weak hands buy, in part they would be being manipulated, and when there is bad news people or weak hands will sell their btc out of fear, and the whales will buy cheap, this is a type of manipulation that always happens, both in the crypto market and in all speculative markets.
8508  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade with a business mindset on: October 23, 2022, 09:06:48 PM
Trading with a business mind set is idea for traders, because if they take strategy on how market trader do their activities, I have stronge believe that they will be no too much loss.
Well, I think that's where you're going, but that has more background, because when we operate under a weight scheme as a company or as an institution, they have a lot of money, and they can win or lose a lot with movements that they make very delicate, then this is something that It can occur not only in the crypto market but also in any other speculation market, be it in forex, crypto, stock market, they all belong to the movement that we know as speculative markets and that is something that goes into a lot of theory and many fundamentals, and at the level of Despite being someone with a lot of money, other types of ideas occur and they operate according to them.
8509  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to Overcome a Bear Market in Cryptocurrency on: October 23, 2022, 08:27:07 PM
when it comes to bear people are always scared of losing money scared of taking risk while some use it as an opportunity to make more fortune once they can hold while some become broke , selling during bear losing much amount of funds due to reasons some taking loan to invest e.t.c
What most persons need to realise in a bear market is, you never get to lose by not selling. In essence, not doing anything to your crypto portfolio could be of advantage too. You would be typically holding by indication.

Best way to go about it would be to buy more coins if you can and to gain the most of it if you are knowledgeable or experienced enough is to swap the coin for USDT just before the bear market, watch out for a dip in the bear market and reinvest.

The tricks to cryptocurrency investment isn't far from that and one has got to avoid the charts as stated in OP to avoid some emotion build ups that could result in one making decisions that weren't thoroughly scrutinised.

This is a very good way, as we are in a relatively bearish market and we do not know when the price can go up and it is the best option, however when we realize that the global trend is for more problems we can say that there are many things that may arise, and one of them is the prevailing uncertainty, for a market speculator it is easier, because it does not matter in which direction the market goes, the market speculator makes money if the market rises, and makes money if the low market, these are the things that one has to see and learn to operate with everything that is known, be it technical analysis, fundamental, or the combination of both.
8510  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Copy trading profitable? on: October 23, 2022, 07:44:05 PM
Copy trading is good but you have to choose best trader who has performed very well in past. A good and genuine way to make some good income. One things always remember that nobody in this world is god to do exactly same as they want in trading so loss can be a part of copy trading as well apart from that copy trading can give some good profit because these trade handle by big and experienced trader.
I haven't tried yet but do you need to pay for the traders as well? I rather make my own trade that even I will lose sometimes at least I learn and I am expose to different things in trading. but then if people want to use and to try copy trading it is up to them, and the money they will be getting its up to them. but for me, I won't recommend it maybe because I am not used to it.

I have a friend who is a Youtuber, and he made a lot of money in 2017, in fact he taught himself, of course he made a lot of money because he caught a bullish Bitcoin market, that's when it went up to almost $20k, then the altocins he bought, he became a altcoins that rose a lot in price, currently he is dedicated to being a trader who offers a copy-trading service, but still I don't trust him, he does a lot of technical analysis, and I think he knows the tricks the most and that's something that anyone can get a tutorial from any page, so you have to be very careful with which trader you have to take this strategy, because that friend for the era when BTC fell a lot he had too much money.
8511  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: In-Person Bitcoin Exchanges on: October 23, 2022, 07:11:14 PM
Hi guys,
My first post here. I've notived a few retail stores in Toronto which pretty much buy/sell your bitcoin in person. Charging a 5% rate.
Has anyone had any experience with these types on in person exchanges? From a business perspective are they lucrative? It's an interesting business model as you can also teach crypto in your community. However, I am unsure of the safety of random people walking in your store...
Any input would be appreciated, i would consider such a venture as long as it falls in legal terms.

I really would not recommend anyone to buy Bitcoin person to person, it lends itself to many things, the person may be good and have no bad intentions, but if it is personally, I would recommend someone you know so you could establish a better bond and Above all trustworthy, for Bitcoin many people can be in danger, it is something that I do not recommend, unless it is here in the forum with someone who has a good reputation and only then would I have a little more confidence, otherwise it is better to buy under exchanges, or other ways that do not involve seeing someone else, remember, it is a lot of money and that is something very delicate.
8512  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Strategies for Trading. on: October 23, 2022, 06:13:57 PM
I could not say for sure something that can help you, because you have to be clear about what you want to do, whether in the short term, medium or long term, for this type of trading, you have many strategies, what I think is that there can be many scenarios where obviously you can't trade in the same way in the short term as in the long term so you have to figure out what kind of market speculator you want to be, obviously when you're a short term trader you have to apply a lot of technical analysis, because sometimes it helps a lot in the case of long term things can change and everything will change very fast.
8513  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Leaving your coins on exchanges on: October 23, 2022, 05:52:59 PM
I have gone through many exchanges which has been scammed and i loss my fund. Only big exchanges can be good to leaves coin otherwise leaving on any exchanges is not a good decision. As a crypto promoter or investor I loss money every year so be careful. Put your coins in wallet then we will be very happyhappy only save secret phase in secure place.
I think this is one of the best tips there can be, at the beginning in 2017 I always thought that the best thing was to put my money in a very famous exchange and well this would give me some confidence and a lot of reputation better than a traditional bank that we are used to having, however at that time many exchanges suffered many attacks and were hacked, so many people lost money, I remember that Cryptopia was one, and I think that is something very unpleasant, in addition to the most famous until now, which is Binance , was also hacked, so I think these exchanges are not safe, for me the best option will always be to have cold wallets
8514  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading on: October 23, 2022, 05:13:10 PM
Day trading can be truly unpleasant however I don't figure somebody will lose all of his cash by simply doing it except if he is exchanging prospects. On the off chance that you're doing detect exchanging, you don't lose as long as you don't sell your crypto at a lower cost. While you're exchanging fates, you can without much of a stretch lose your capital when an unexpected startling development occurs on the lookout. The higher your influence is, the higher opportunity for your capital will be sold.

Well, trading in futures is something that can leave us with a great experience, however what I have tried daily is in other markets such as forex, there I see that the signals that I can obtain under my analysis in times of 3-5 minutes are a little more stable that in crypto or in BTC everything can change from one moment to another, however I have noticed that one can manage well with the corresponding lottery so as not to burn the account, that is what I think can be better, now well the people That they take more risks may be something that can give you a quick profit, but the way I see it, I don't recommend it.
8515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: October 23, 2022, 02:14:25 PM

I think he is now ready to fight a real champion as he already have two tune up fights where he won. Though it's a real fight but we know his opponents are not on his level, his promoter has to give him a chance to fight a better challenge, those two names that are mentioned are sure a great challenge for him.
And if I remember it right, Garcia is really aiming for Davis. He keeps on sending an indirect message using his social media account, it will be decided once both fighters are inside the ring. I like to see if how Garcia will throw solid combinations in case he creates an opening. The kid has a killing KO punch, but on the other hand, we are talking about Davis here who also has that same or can say much upper level.

Not to go far with my speculation, Haney and Kambosos will be waiting for whoever wins this upcoming fight. He will be the one that will wait for any challenger that will ask for his belt.


I have also thought and I have had that in my head, if things happen between García and Davis things can go in another direction, and although many want the meeting between Haney and Kambosos, with what has happened I have already begun to doubt I don't know if it's because they lack more interest from the fans that I know about this fight or it's because they already determined that it won't be such an exciting or spectacular fight, I think those things also influence, if there is something that is very good for sponsors is money, and it seems that the business model for this fight may not be that profitable, so this can influence.

Do only 50% bet 20$ every time if it fails do 60$ it fails do 150$ if it fails do 350$ if it fails do 900$ if it fails do 2300$

There is no way you will fail 7 times and if you do just increase the bet and you will get it back eventually even if you wait 12 times.

what you think on my method?
LOL, only addict gamblers will follow this strategy, I personally won't, I am a reserved gambler, I never gamble to win at all cost, because such attitude towards gambling is one of the reasons many have sold their houses, gambled with the money, went bankrupt and returned back to poverty.
It is better to always gamble with funds one can comfortably loss, I cant use such a strategy and end up gambling with my life saving, if at the end of the day, I don't win, taking care of myself and feeding my family becomes a big problem, people should learn to gamble responsibly, there are some strategies in gambling that are absolutely useless, and this is one of them.

Well, not only addicts, there are people who really have a lot of money and this strategy works for them, but since it is risky and so reckless, I think it can work only a couple of times and that's it, and that's with the best luck in the world, Also, as I said before, to make this strategy work well, you have to have a lot of money, and even if you have a lot of money, it is very possible to lose it, because honestly betting so much money in a short time is very fativble for you to lose everything, and More summit is that this loss is not that the casino is based on its advantage, but simply that certain strategies that are associated with the amartingale cannot be abused.
8516  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: October 23, 2022, 05:58:10 AM
KYC is very important because it is the key to their authenticity, the subject is complicated, but both sides must be understood.
That's tough. Majority of the gamblers including me will continue hating on KYC due to various reasons which is why it's very, very difficult for both sides of the KYC debate to reach a mutual consensus.

I'd say bear market will make them get benefit since gamblers will try to gamble more in order to get profit from bear market and the fees is much lower due to the network aren't busy.
That makes zero sense. Gamblers will try to gamble less due to the bear market which will directly cause these gambling sites to earn less in the short-term.

yes, like many cat and mouse games this will be a never ending debate with the probable outcome of KYC policies getting more and more restrict over time, and possible some decentralized alternatives appearing here and there

Yes, in fact I think it will always be like this, because on the one hand there are the players who are very firm in not giving their KYC, and who prefer to go to other casinos where they do not offer KYC, but it is very difficult, most sites at some point they will all reach a consensus where they will require KYC, to avoid these problems sometimes it is necessary to give a little, it is very difficult for some players to have patience and acceptance, but seeing that casinos that are very important and that they are quite reliable with a high reputation it is preferable to meet those requirements, sometimes security has its prices or high prices.
8517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: October 23, 2022, 04:21:03 AM
^ Again, the fight has been hype already and to that point that it seems that our waiting is turning into disappointment because of the time that we have to wait and then we don't know if who is balking or stalling or if they have the contracts but a lot of points to be cleared. Hopefully that talks is still going on secretly as they don't want to preempt to get leak to the media as this is a very important fight in the division, it's a unification fight and I don't remember when it did happen at 147 lbs.

It's been hyped since May this year and I think both camps started talking last June or July, fans have been feeling great and delighted when they knew that the deal is finally finished and both camps are just waiting for the contract but few days later, everything turns to gray as the fight is now back on square one.

Maybe it's much better to leave it as is and just wait for them whenever they are ready because I believe that they are doing anything they can, it's just there are some unexpected problems. There are some rumors that either one of the camps is stalling but sadly, we cannot verify that information.

In my opinion maybe they are delaying the fight because they all know that what ever they do fans from the both fighter will want to see this big event by the two undefeated boxers. But for sure someday or somehow this fight will be open soon.  And if we talk about the tickets sell then for sure in just an days or a weak before it available to sell it will sold out. But what we must to do right now is that to wait until they announce a final decision about this fight.

Delaying the fight is not necessary anymore, as if this fight will not be sold out once it is announced. There are big reasons behind, it's probably not because they are not yet convince they can make the target revenue in this fight but most probably the terms on both teams are not yet meet.

Probably this is the biggest stumbling block as we thought that the fight is sealed already. And yes, his might be going back into circles and really nothing is going on the negotiations. We know that this fight will be sold out in days after it will be announced. But so far, it will be delayed already, the November date could be given to other fights by the venue as for sure they will update us that it will be December and then next year, this could be the pattern, short of saying that it won't be in 2022.

I really don't think they'd do something like that, it would be like playing with people's emconies and that's not well seen, although it's like you say, you can have all the fans entertained and they can make a difference now more than ever, because in Somewhere the world will be paralyzed a bit because of what the Qatar World Cup is coming up, and that is something that many will leave other sports aside and dedicate themselves to betting per match, that is something obvious and the money will be moving in that direction, however even so, I believe that the business model of boxing does not stop and continues to expand despite, so I think they can give that gift to the fans and do it this year, I have faith that they can.

But Crawford can also move up to 154 and hunt for his 4th division title but he seriously needs a promoter to depend on.   

And of course he can find a promoter if he wants to, the job of the promoter is to sell the fight, and since Crawford is already popular and a champion, every promoter will sure be willing to invest on him.

But he has one of the best manager in boxing already in Arum, but I guess he doesn't want to be his manager again because he wants to fight Spence because Arum is not bringing him fights that he wanted.

So the next big thing for him if he wanted this fight is to join PBC, so that there's no way that Spence can escape him because they know have the same manager and probably the same network to work it, so that fight is going to be made very easy.

Easier to deal with if he will move to that same handler. A good way for him, since he's really chasing for Spence.

I follow your argument because he's not getting any younger, though he's really trying to work it out and
chase for this fight against his co-champions in this division. We might hear updates and maybe possibilities
that the fight will happen just a confirmation from both camps and it will be a done deal.

Well I really admire the ability that CRAWFORD has to try to get more out of Spence, if he does all these things, I hope that when I know of the fight it will be something spectacular that it will be almost a world event where it will be published everywhere, I don't know how much It is the obsession but clearly Crawford when doing all these things is because he has undergone a very hard training, that if they tell him that the fight is in 2 or 3 days he is already prepared, and I think that as he is, and with the intensity that he has shown, He will have the intention of training three times as hard as he has trained, with so much that he has moved that I am really gaining faith in him, But I honestly see this scenario far away, because now Crawford has looked for another way to attract attention, not fighting with Spence ...

And as I have said before, I suspect that one reason beside the split and possible rematch clause, is the PPV price. Because as we all know there are a lot that it is streaming it for free and it we are going to see the numbers in most recent fights, it is on a decline. The Canelo vs GGG trilogy was just over 1 million buys and if I'm not mistaken, it fell to what it is expected or predicted to be around 1.3-1.5 buys. And so maybe this could be one sticking points, how much they will charge the viewing public, do they need to increased since this is a mega fight, or it is enough for $75-$79.99 price?

I think boxing fans will have to problem purchasing the ticket and watch it thru ppv, as you have said this is a mega fight and a must watch for all of us.

So for sure it will do good numbers, above 1 Million is not that bad in my opinion.

For me this is not one issues in the negotiation, it's really the split or the network money that is going to pour here and of course they want to make sure that they will make money as the guaranteed asking price by the 2 boxers is big.

We don't know the real reason, we have lots of speculation on why this fight will not happen. Crawford already had a scheduled fight, so I think this year we will not see this mega fight, it doesn't matter if it will take a long time for the negotiation to finalize as long it will happen, but both boxing superstars should continue to be active.

I think that Crawford is very skilled, he has been ´preparing for this fight, Spence knows it, for Spence it is something that is not so relevant, because he knows very well that if Crawford achieves more fame it is better for him, but what bad thing is, that if Crawford gets a lot of fame and doesn't want to fight him, just when Spence even wants to, this will cause much more emotion, I think Crawford is doing very well, on an intellectual level he is a very strategist. Of course what I say is mere speculation, the background of this may be other things that we are not even a little lukewarm about what we say here, and since they are so famous, they understand each other.
8518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - 2nd Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 23, 2022, 03:37:22 AM

Going by how things are going, HSV is a promising team, but have I started to think that they will be consistent enough to stay in the lead? We have all been witnesses since last season that things are very sudden and any team can be moving to first place and be the leader, that is why I think that I see DARMSTADT very well, with what they have gleaned I think it would be very unfair if They will not go to the first division and be part of the Bundesliga, although I cannot deny, the emotions that are experienced in the 2nd Bundesliga is something unique, I would think that anything could happen here.




And the action does not end:

Karlsruhe defender Marcel Franke donates stem cells



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Karlsruhe defender Marcel Franke had a good excuse for missing the Matchday 12 clash with Bundesliga 2 leaders Darmstadt - he was potentially saving someone's life.

Karlsruhe lost 2-1 at home to Darmstadt without Franke, who was absent after donating stem cells to a blood cancer patient two days previously.

The club were happy to help after Franke had informed them that - having registered as a donor in 2016 - he was told three months ago that doctors might have found a match.

"The probability that I would be the right donor was actually very low," the 29-year-old told the club website. "But three weeks later I got a call to tell me I was the perfect match after all."

Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bundesliga/news/karlsruhe-defender-marcel-franke-donates-stem-cells-21591

A noble gesture, this is what I like most about soccer that encompasses all these things that make us human, it seemed relevant to bring it here to our forum.

And we continue like this:



Source: https://www.bundesliga.com/en/2bundesliga/table
8519  Economy / Gambling / Re: The Biggest Wins with lowest risks in Casino History on: October 22, 2022, 06:34:10 PM
No one knows for sure how to make $100 that way. Or maybe a professional poker player can earn $100. But as an ordinary gambler who doesn't gamble using a lot of money, it will be difficult and there will probably be huge losses if we keep pushing it. I think there may be slots players who bet over $1 and as we know, slots require luck and if you are not lucky, the $100 will soon run out. But I think there is also a slot player who only bets under $1 but can win a lot because he can really get lucky.
I think the same as you, a person cannot be lucky in any game, but it has happened that a person who plays a lot of poker, black jack or anything else, at the moment of entering a slot machine can make his balance very high, for Of course if you take advantage of the moment of luck you had, but these probabilities, although they are scarce, are possible, in my case I always play slots, but of course I am not a player like the whales who play at stake.com bitcasio.io, duelbits, among others sites, which always publish their high earnings, that is something that I personally admire a lot, but I know that to have gotten there, they had to have spent a lot of money.
Of course, some people who play poker, blackjack or even slots can get big profits because of luck. But that is very rare for most gamblers who can only get heavy losses. The casino sites you mentioned are famous casinos with many members who often gamble and spend their time there. But we don't have to follow those people who spend a lot of money because playing gambling is everyone's responsibility and we have to be able to take care of ourselves. And when we can really get big profits using little money, those are the times when we can get big luck.
Yes, it is true that people who gamble in Las Vegas and those who gamble in any other normal place can never be equal. Those who gamble in Las Vegas are often quite well-rounded. They cannot be compared to ordinary people. Where and to what extent they take risks is often not possible for the general public. As a result large amounts can be won in poker, blackjack or even slots although it depends entirely on luck. Generally, it is rare to get big amount of reward with small bets.
Those who gamble in big places like Las Vegas indeed have a wider knowledge. But still, the risk behind gambling games will be there, so a gambler must realize this wherever he plays. And maybe those who play poker, blackjack or slots can get big wins, but unfortunately, we won't know how much they use in betting. Well, we can only hope that one day, we can get big luck that can help us to get big wins with small bets.
Someone can win from poker, blackjack or slots but it is depend in his luck and It depends on how experienced he is . many gamblers getting huge winning from poker, blackjack or slots with small betting . and on the other hand many gamblers losses huge investment from poker, blackjack or slots . It mostly depends on luck
For the gambling game you mentioned, two things must be considered, namely luck and experience, where experience can help him strategize. And luck will give him a chance to win using the right strategy. But unfortunately, not many gamblers can maintain their winnings because some will become greedy and want bigger wins. And yes, gambling games do depend on each person's luck.
It is very true, luck in gambling is decisive, I know that there are people who sometimes say that they are on a roll and that they are taking advantage of the moment, but that is something that they must be very careful about, because sometimes when they are on a roll is when more they must be intelligent and they must not forget that the house will always have the advantage, that we as players are fighting against the system, against the advantage of the casino and betting that we have that touch of luck that can give us success, usually the Strategies are quite adequate to help us have a better view of the game, but still the best strategy can fail at any time.
8520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: October 22, 2022, 05:42:48 PM
this is obvious that it can happen, nothing is written, if Inoue feels bad that day? or he has some ailment or injury and that can affect him, I don't think Butler comes out with the intention of giving him a knockout, but rather Butler must have a good strategy to withstand all the attacks that Inoue is coming at him, this fight is going to be very good.

There's no fight yet where Inoue feels bad on that day. And there's only 1 time where Inoue struggled in his fight and that was against Nonito Donaire in their first match. He was badly beaten by Donaire in the early rounds but look at how he give the patience to regain his momentum and then finally got the unanimous win against Donaire. That's why in their rematch, he didn't let that experience happen again, and finished easily that fight.

The old Donaire can even beat Paul Butler that's why no need for any logic here that Butler can stand a chance against Naoya Inoue.

I also disagree with you that Butler does have a strategy to withstand all attacks from Inoue. That was hard to imagine believe me. He can dodge, he can avoid those punches from Inoue but to withstand it? I really have a big doubt.

Not to disrespect Butler but yes, comparing to the pinoy flash, I agree that even that old Donaire can have a chance of beating Butler,
the first match against Inoue was close but the rematch,

Donaire can't do anything as the monster dominates and knocks him down in the earlier rounds. Inoue improves a lot for sure that how
many fans and viewers use as basis, they saw that prime Inoue is far better than his upcoming opponent.

Maybe the fight against Casimero might be close if ever chances or fate allow that the two warriors
will deal it up, maybe if Casimero makes his way to have a title fight and grabs a new belt.

Well, I don't see it as disrespecting him, I think it's a very accurate analysis, I know that Butler is not in his best shape, maybe the boxer is a little distracted, but at some point he has to do things better, if he doesn't, it's likely that he'll think about quitting boxing, besides, it wouldn't be bad, when a person feels that he can't be at such a high level, he shouldn't overexert himself because it can even be dangerous, I know that Inoue has a lot of technique, and he is incredible, but despite his weight it seems that he is stronger than he really shows and this is something that must be taken into account, I think that the skill and talent are obvious in him, maybe because That's why the chances are getting smaller and smaller for Butler.

Honestly, I don't think Paul Butler will last 5 rounds. I am not sure if it's intentional for Inoue to look for knockouts unless his opponents are hurt already and he just went for the kill. But he knows that he's got power in both hands.

That will lead to low odds of Inoue winning within 5 rounds as he is known to finish his opponent in the early rounds.

We can only expect high odds on Inoue winning in late rounds but as a bettor, I would not place any bet in later rounds. It's hard to make money in this fight where the battle is between a Giant and a Small fry (Please don't take personally the word I used).

Can't wait to see the other betting options.

I checked Inoue's knockout record. 60% of his KO victories are inside 5 rounds and 75% of his KOs are inside 6 rounds. That's some crazy stats. I'd been looking as well for more markets about the fight but I still can't find any.

Anyways, I cannot wait for this fight to happen even if we see it as too one-sided. I have huge respect for Butler taking this unification fight, he is here because he is a champion and we will see what he brings.       

I just realized that Top Rank and ESPN continue to have the best fighters in boxing. Naoya Inoue, Shakur Stevenson, Vasiliy Lomachenko, Devin Haney, Teofimo Lopez, Josh Taylor, Artur Beterbiev, and Tyson Fury. Just when I thought earlier that Bob Arum is getting older, that he is losing his touch and he failed to get a hold of Crawford and Zurdo. So I thought Top Rank will die slowly. I was wrong.

Well it's interesting and it's also curious, normally a knockout should occur in the first round to demonstrate superiority, of course those statistics are very interesting, apparently they have taken into account the performance of the boxer's effort, and well this is interesting, obviously many have left because of Inoue's performance, and they put aside what Butler can do, most people don't have any faith in him, but I like to think of other ways, not everything is written, things They can happen, it hasn't happened yet but I think it could be a good surprise, maybe they say that I think wrong or it's that I have a lot of hope, but why not?


Actually, a knockout is totally possible to happen within that range and to put it on perspective, all of the four range options have 25% chances of win and it's really hard to predict where will Inoue finish the fight. Anyway, my point is that Butler totally knows that he can't do much in this fight to give Inoue some hard time and having said that, he might try to survive as long as he can because engaging a toe-to-toe fight won't benefit him. That is why for me, round 4-6 is the best option.

The 6 round range is something that can happen, but as I said before, do you think Butler can get beaten that easily? With all the time that has passed, I know that Butler has prepared himself a lot, and he has seen the news, sees the probabilities and all those statistics. For me, Butler is one of the boxers who should have the clearest Inoue statistics, I am sure that He doesn't want to get into that rank of those who have been knocked out, of course it's just a guess, but I think that in this fight they will reach the 12th round and if Butler applies a security strategy, the Japanese will try to get out of it.
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