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8541  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Assault weapon bans on: July 05, 2013, 04:07:14 PM
No rifle that has the ability to assault someone should be allowed.

The only guns that should exist are the ones that cannot be used to assault.
8542  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 05, 2013, 04:06:08 PM
Okay, since you seem to like that sentence so much, let me rephrase it for you:
without governments to pay for it, there will be no paved roads.
And since that is practically the same, let me make that into an open question:
Without governments to pay for it, who else will?

Who paid for roads before income taxes? Who paid for the monuments you see in DC? Who paid for the telephone infrastructure? Who paid for the McDonalds franchise? Who pays for private fire departments? Who pays for private water companies?
8543  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Is it a total scam? The "5 Bitcoin Independence Day Raffle !" on: July 05, 2013, 01:00:24 AM
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My e-mail copy of it does not include the phishing link, the one on bitcointalk does.
8544  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 03, 2013, 02:32:36 AM
And I am saddened that you can't think of anything that could go wrong with privatization....
I can honestly tell you here that every privatization the German state has made was the worst possible solution EVER to the problem.

If it is anything like the US, what they call privatization is usually just a government monopoly, and changing things around to pay a private firm to do government work.

It gives privatization a bad name because it never allows competition or innovation.
8545  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 03, 2013, 02:27:57 AM
here is my logic:

Does it work?
No: then its broken, fix it!
Yes: its not broken, DO NOT FIX IT! it might break!

So the old dial up telephone system was just fine because it worked?
8546  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 09:40:29 PM
The easiest way that we could come up with a way of having mobile phones is if the state took over and controlled all of the radio waves and gave equal access to everyone and just used money gained from taxes.

Same with roads. Just let the government take them over and pay for them with money from taxes.


Or...privatize them.


I am saddened that so many people would rather argue for taxes than spend 5 minutes thinking of an alternative to what we currently have. If everyone who said "what about the roads?" took 5 minutes to think of an alternative, we'd have some pretty kick ass solutions to take over the old outdated road system we have today.

Just 1 minute...think of one possibility...let your brain work this one time...
8547  Economy / Speculation / The long July 4th weekend on: July 02, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Here in the states we have a holiday on Thursday. Most people will be taking Friday off. Look for a long weekend of not much money flowing into the market.
8548  Economy / Speculation / Re: What exactly is the bear case? (sincere question) on: July 02, 2013, 05:43:32 PM
(yes, I understand you are trolling, but you should at least be consistent Tongue)

Tongue
8549  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I think I figured it out (a post only for liberty minded peaceful people) on: July 02, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
We live in an anarchist world of survival of the fittest.

It just so happens that the fittest is a collective of power that have set up rules of their liking and use their power against those who do not follow their rules. Otherwise known as government.

I do not know how you can change that without another group having more power and their own set of rules take over. Which would be much the same.
8550  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 03:42:04 PM
Most stupid thread title ever.
the survey is not about the definition of morale, it's about the definition of stealing.
if it was about the definition of morale it would have to be the other way around.

1.If you build a road alone, would it be okay to charge people to use it?
2. If you and a group of people build a road, would it be okay to charge others to use them?
3. If you are elected to build a road and secure it with security forces, would it be okay to charge the people who elected you to do so with it's maintenance cost?
4. If you are the representative of a group of elected people in charge of: roadbuiding, infrastructure building, securing your town and the roads, and protecting you from non elected people charging you for services rendered by yourself, would it be okay to charge the people who voted for them for maintenance cost and a fee for future projects?

repeat as you like.
And even that is not your personal definition of morale; morale is what you personally feel is right, and won't burden your conscience.


Cool story bro.

And those who do not want to use the road?
and what about that sewer?

Septic tank.
8551  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 03:41:35 PM
Police are paid by property taxes. There are examples of privatized police doing much better than public police.
cool, anecdotal evidence ftw!!!
 

http://www.policymic.com/articles/44725/this-is-what-budget-cuts-have-done-to-detroit-and-it-s-freaking-awesome

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Dr. Benson notes that, for centuries, crime control was almost entirely private and community based. Surveying criminal justice systems around the world, he finds the most successful have always been those that most closely adhere to this old model of “community policing,” in which victim restitution, citizen patrols, and private justice are valued most, while government police forces, prosecutors, courts, and prisons are almost an afterthought.
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=35

http://www.libertarian.co.uk/lapubs/polin/polin017.pdf

etc..
8552  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 03:21:23 PM
Most stupid thread title ever.
the survey is not about the definition of morale, it's about the definition of stealing.
if it was about the definition of morale it would have to be the other way around.

1.If you build a road alone, would it be okay to charge people to use it?
2. If you and a group of people build a road, would it be okay to charge others to use them?
3. If you are elected to build a road and secure it with security forces, would it be okay to charge the people who elected you to do so with it's maintenance cost?
4. If you are the representative of a group of elected people in charge of: roadbuiding, infrastructure building, securing your town and the roads, and protecting you from non elected people charging you for services rendered by yourself, would it be okay to charge the people who voted for them for maintenance cost and a fee for future projects?

repeat as you like.
And even that is not your personal definition of morale; morale is what you personally feel is right, and won't burden your conscience.


Cool story bro.

And those who do not want to use the road?
8553  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: July 02, 2013, 03:13:45 AM
police and fire protection, military protection, access to schools or public highways,

Whenever people think about what government provides they use these as examples.

Police are paid by property taxes. There are examples of privatized police doing much better than public police.

Fire departments can and are in some places privatized.

Military - the notion that we need a standing army with an armed population ready to fight is a bit of a stretch. We are taught to believe we need one because we are an empirialist nation.

Schools - again property taxes mainly, and also easily privatized.

Roads. We are slaves to public roads that are the third highest cause of death in the US. Also could be privatized.
8554  Economy / Speculation / Re: What exactly is the bear case? (sincere question) on: July 02, 2013, 12:25:12 AM
Basically the dollar is such a good investment that people are all jumping on board. I cashed out all of my stocks and bought dollars.

I have also taken out a huge loan in the hopes that the dollar goes up a lot.

We are all going to be rich!

How is taking out a USD loan possibly a good thing to do when the dollar is strong?  You have to pay it all back and even if it is a fixed rate the real value of the interest payments will rise.

Because the dollar kicks ass!!!

Print more so we are all rich rich rich!!!
8555  Economy / Speculation / Re: What exactly is the bear case? (sincere question) on: June 30, 2013, 07:24:59 PM
Basically the dollar is such a good investment that people are all jumping on board. I cashed out all of my stocks and bought dollars.

I have also taken out a huge loan in the hopes that the dollar goes up a lot.

We are all going to be rich!
8556  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: June 30, 2013, 04:25:00 PM
"Theft" is not the same concept as "taxation", no matter how constipated you get from wanting it to be the same thing.

And yet the action is the same.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
8557  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you believe is moral? on: June 30, 2013, 04:23:34 PM
is a anarchistic world the "cost" of murder/rape/whatever would be significantly lower and people would do it more often.

This is an anarchist world of survival of the fittest. It just so happens that groups have formed to protect their own interests. These groups with the most amount of power are able to control those with less power. Those with less power can either try to fight that power which they do not stand a chance, or they can just play along under the rules of those with the power.
8558  Economy / Economics / Re: HOW FAR AWAY IS DO YOU SEE THE COLLAPSE OF THE POUND AND THE DOLLAR?? on: June 30, 2013, 04:02:43 AM
The collapse will begin in August.

The decline began in April.
8559  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you're not out, get out. on: June 30, 2013, 03:55:11 AM
I flushed all of my bitcoins down the toilet.
8560  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ! 5 Bitcoin Independence Day Raffle ! on: June 30, 2013, 02:39:57 AM
Elwar

whatever you want to say
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