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8561  Other / Off-topic / Re: How would you guys react if you guys lost 10, 000 bitcoin? on: September 14, 2016, 08:45:53 AM
I would just fall down for sure. 10.000 bitcoins is just a lot of money. If you mean 10 bitcoins well I would be sad.
But with 10.000 bitcoins I would just do all my power to recover that. Oh man that is just to much to handle if I lose that without knowing. If it was thru gambling that I am just stupid as fuck.

I feel you bro, same here i would really use all of my powers just to get my lost bitcoin 10k bitcoin is already a lot that even theres a possibility that i would go suicide if  i lost that money thats almost $6.2M+  in fiat which you could do lots of things with that money.
8562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Welcome back! $700 on: September 14, 2016, 08:38:16 AM

This unexpected. now for the first time during the week bitcoin prices decline. bitcoin price decline is reasonably high and make some traders panic sell. This is something that was not expected.

As quoted sure this makes a panic among the traders but the person having trust on bitcoin won't give up. Ongoing price movement is the true nature of bitcoin. Soon this increase will continue on the rising side.
Not really a big decline, from $622 last September 11 down to $614.06 on September 12 that's an 8 dollar difference but if you check back a few days prior to that September 3 its $576 then climb to $593 on September 4 that's an $16 difference. It's still within normal movement if you ask me. Nothing to panic yet.

True, theres nothing to worry about since bitcoins price is in normal price range yet unlike on those  price drops near $540+ as i remembered but as we see that no matter bitcoin lowers its price it  actually rises or bounce up again. Maybe there are people who sold their bitcoin when the price reaches  $620 and i think those sellers was those who bought on  $540- 570 i guess since they could gained profit with that.
8563  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 14, 2016, 08:31:28 AM
They both come with their pros and cons. Investments always come with some risk which means more stress and you also need to constantly keep an eye on what's going on. But reward is usually high. Saving money is almost risk free and there is no maintenance work you need to do other than make sure it is secure. But your money doesn't grow as fast.  

Why can't we just do them both? Both of them give good benefits to us. Saving makes our money secure and investing makes our money grow. We cannot just invest and not make savings. That is putting our money inaccessible at some times when it is still locked on an investment. And if we put them all in savings, inflation will eat our money away. So, do them both and we are well taken cared.
The answer is obviously both, we need to save but investment is just optional. Investment are only for the people who are ambitious and are still longing to have a better life in the future because they are not contented with the present situation while some people who want to live simple life would be fine saving money consistently.

It really depends on the person  on how he would plan his future and you are correct there are really people who likes to have a simple living and decide to save  consistently while some may  save for future investment and diversify it  to  attain leverage income.
8564  Other / Off-topic / Re: Any safe way to grow my bitcoins ? on: September 14, 2016, 08:28:31 AM
I think there is no absolute way of growing bitcoin safely.  All investment and ventures have risk of not meeting the goal intended.  Though there maybe team that will plan or make strategy on how to minimize the risk, it will never be reduce to zero risk.  But if you are really into growin your bitcoin there is some safer way with  minimal risk to grow your bitcoin, and that is venturing it to a business category where you are most familiar with.

offering skill like on progaramming, website development, freelance job those are some safe way to make profit on bitcoin however those suggestion requires experience and knowledge.

This is going to be a good way to grow your bitcoins by offering this kind of services but if you are going to talk about growing. It means that you are going to do something like investing to make your bitcoins grow. And I would say this is going to be the job of trading as this is the most trusted way of getting good profit with it.

Those programming skills and other technical things would really give you decent amount of bitcoin but  you cant  grow it since it acts as a salary, being able to grow is somewhat you invest and it gradually grows because  of profits. Just like what you said you could achieve it on  doing trading.
8565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 14, 2016, 08:26:08 AM
if i am rich, i would not gamble again but i want to make my own gambling site so i can make more money  Grin if the one site is success, i will make another site and invest my money on that site to build gambling site again. its just my dream, don't know if could be realize or not.
i think it is difficult to stop gambling just for the reason that you have become a rich person. because wee can see more richpersons in casino playing gambling, i have seen so many people who increase gambling when become more rich.

then i will apply for myself. i don't want to play gambling because i know i will become addicted if i am often to play gambling. so maybe making a gambling site is another way to earn more money for me.
Being honest to your self is always a good move. It is true that when you are rich and you tried gambling you will be risking your big money if you are not really into gambling you will be easily fooled by the emotions you will feel and may result to stupid decision of gambling the money not for gambling.

If we dont have intention to play gambling  even if we have the money we would not really like to do it unless if we forced by someone like on our friends and colleague. Starters on gambling would definitely experience such emotion when we intend to play gambling.
8566  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin being used for illegal activities on: September 14, 2016, 08:10:00 AM
I see more and more acrticles of bitcoin being used for illegal activities
will this hurt bitcoin in the long run , will governments ban this just like they started to do wih paying in cash for some services
to harden the use of illegal , and money laundering
the numbers of countries had banned the bitcoin in their countries because pf the illegal activities . here bitcoin is not illegal but many people are uses it as illegally . so many countries are looking to ban it further some countries accepted bitcoin as official best currency .

In any countries they have different views regarding  into bitcoin some may adopt  it and some  would banned it because they saw the  threat especially it could be used on illegal transaction but for me if they saw  the  positive side of bitcoin they would surely change their  mind i guess.
8567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did I do wrong or right ? on: September 14, 2016, 08:07:24 AM
I sold almost all my coins today for about 200 USD (that's what I had in my electrum wallet) and have very few coins sitting on my hardware wallet. I want to build a medium-high end gaming PC and this money is need for me to buy it. Did I do wrong that I sold a high amount of bitcoins about 0.35 to achieve my goal ? I am also happy that I am near fulfilling my goal but also sad as maybe the price of bitcoin skyrockets soon after I did this.

What ever I am the person who wants to achieve my goals no matter the cost so f it whatever the case with the price of bitcoin.

Well I wouldn't worry to much because you have hold these bitcoins to spend one day which has come in your life in something useful.

If you have sold yesterday then today the price has changed (-$30) so I think you were pretty lucky selling at a higher rate, money is to be spared to spend later, but if you are bitcoin addicted then you soon will buy bitcoin for sure.

Correct, we should  not only worry on the negative side that bitcoin might  increase its price tomorrow  there still had the chance that you sold them at a exact time since bitcoins price is unpredictable it might rise or go low. As long you bought something useful with your bitcoin its always a good thing after all.
8568  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Crash coming on: September 14, 2016, 07:55:19 AM
I think this is an old thread trying to attract people to sell bitcoins so that they can buy bitcoins to make a good profit if the price of bitcoin will increase again back..
This is just like in trading section that they are saying that there is a big crash so people will sell their holding coins after that the price will redice and they will buy for cheap price so that they can make a profit if the price will increase again back,,
People shouldn't take OP serious in the first place as it has more looks of being a thread made for trolling purposes.

If some one will actually sell his coins just because of this thread, then that person is very dumb and easy to manipulate into thinking and doing something.

the thread isn't even about a bitcoin crash, but an economic (dollar) crash.

Yeah but anyways now I am seeing that bitcoin is probably going to crash just look at recent price changes went up by alot and just in one night dropped like 5% instantly and still going down right now so I think a big bitcoin crash will be unavoidable.
LOL, you are not getting used to the price movement of bitcoin, 5% would not be called as crash because that is just a normal fluctuation for bitcoin, we are going to have a wonderful increase this year and that will continue until the end of the year.



Yeah I agree that a wonderful price increase is going to happen this year and this big crash is not going to happen as of now. And I don't want this big crash to happen either, so what we need to do is don't even think about it, because the more time and effort we are going to put thinking about that big crash it will going to come suddenly.

The price of the bitcoin has consolidated quite well in the last two months. So it has a good foundation for big rise.

Yes and I don't think that a crash is going to happen either. Let's just hope that the price of bitcoin and bitcoin itself is going to keep on rising and always going to be on a stable status. That is what I'm saying that let's just keep on hoping and be positive that all good things are going to happen with bitcoin because it will affect us.

There are really people  who likes to give bad impressions to bitcoin which  i could see  on saying  it to others seems pointless and just  giving  negative insights  with this matter. Why we could just  hope the same thing like it would definitely rise up on the top since we could all benefited with that event for sure.
8569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need bustabit advice on: September 14, 2016, 07:53:07 AM
I've started playing bustabit since past week and lost around $45. Is there any script that works? or it is just a game of luck?
It super easy to win in that website don't bee so greed so you will never lose bits all you need to do is max always your bet and cash out into 1.03 and make profit or you can set the auto bots there so even you are away from keyboard you can also win profit easy dont be greed and play at your own risk

Below 2x odds is not a guarantee win because you cant double your money just in one click with that strategy. Let say if you play on 1.1x and you have 1 btc, so you need to play 10 times to double your money. So are you sure that you will win all 10 times without any single loss? Because if you just loss once it will be considered as a great loss

Its impossible to happen since in playing bustabit i do see 0 which i actually waited for that possibility that i would come out and  it really happens and lose my money. even if you bet on odds of 1.01 theres still a chance  to lose money because as we all know that house has always the edge.
8570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 14, 2016, 07:50:47 AM
I don't think that could happen anymore because bitcoin is now use almost all over the world.if there is no users,then it could be a useless coin but never disappear.
Yupp me too i don't think that could happen because for me bitcoin now is famous even some country are not using bitcoin as their currency and in some country bitcoin are famous where they are using bitcoin to pay online or there bills monthly where they're using it for trading also into another crypto-currency

We cannot be sure what will happen in future, it may or may not disappear, no one can judge the future of bitcoin, if price will fall to extreme level then it can disappear in future.
Yeah we cannot be sure what will happen in the future but we can predict it because some people are good in predicting and it will happen and i believe that the future of bitcoin is near , we can't think negative about bitcoin because we are using it everyday.

No one could really predict on a precise event on what  would happen to bitcoin but some realistic speculation may depend on the actual thing right now   ex. we are currently seeing the bitcoins progression which we could somehow say that it would be hardly to believe that bitcoin would disappear.
8571  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: WHAT CAN I DO WITH 0.1 BTC ?? on: September 13, 2016, 04:00:14 PM
You can try investing bitcoin by holding it and wait for another halving or
you can invest on gambling site but remember , it has risk of lossing if you did not experience for doing this or
You can try open any shop that accept bitcoin so you will got bitcoin profit
Investing 0.1 btc only and wait for years for the next halving,oh man what you saying its just a time waste and no body should do it,such a long term investement with that much small amount,and opening shop in 0.1 btc,for that i would say do nothing and try to collect more and more bitcoins,may be reach 0.5 btc atleast first and then think about it again.

Yeah 0.1 will not be worth to hold for a long term, in fact I would choose to take risk and use them in gambling and try my luck there so I can earn quick profits if I am lucky.
Yeah, you can possibly double or triple your capital in gambling but in gambling, you can lose your all bitcoin instantly.

To be honest 0.1 is not a big amount, so even if we loose in gambling then it won't affect our financial status but if you are lucky and if its your day then you can make it really big even in a single day.

0.1 btc is big already for some especially on 3rd world countries and  that amount is  equivalent  on 1 month work and yes it may be  too little for us  but for  some its enough already and  here in bitcoin world you could do things with that amount already you could do altcoin trading.
8572  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 13, 2016, 03:58:35 PM
Gambling is addicting because it is exciting to have fun while risking your money. Also the urge that you will keep playing when losing until you recover but most of the time people end up losing everything. The joy you are getting when you are winning because you are very lucky. What i mean is win or lose in gambling it is still addicting.

Winning scenarios or moments would surely get you addicted  and would intend to do more betting thats why almost of players do lost in the long run and thats  reality in gambling  and when they lose they would   try to make deposit again to  win back the losses but its an impossible thing to do in gambling.
8573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: September 13, 2016, 03:56:50 PM
You keep coming back because the adrenaline rush of gambling with your money is what makes it fun. Without that adrenaline rush and high risk scenario it would not be fun, that is why playing with fake credits on casinos gets boring really fast.
This is correct, a lot of persons ask me why I like gambling and when I give them my answer they don’t get it, however the reasons for gambling are not different than for those that race cars, or do dangerous stuff, is the thrill, the excitement, the danger that attract us.
so you think gambling are like an extreme sports who gets your heart beat possibly causing to the death huhh? sounds like not fun at all lol. the most popular reason why gambling fun are when people gets a lot of money easily by playing a game , that's makes sense right?

Well that is making some other gamblers fun as they gamble especially when they are going to yolo or going to bet all things that they have. Maybe they are just having fun when they are winning or even without the winnings they can probably get with gambling. By simply gambling makes them happy by just doing simple gamble.

There are really people who do enjoy on playing gambling and dont mind on the money that they would spend on playing those games. They might lose in the end but the  enjoyment or entertainment  they seek is there then theres no problem at all. As long as you control your money its okay,
8574  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: how to make money on bitcointalk without campaigns on: September 13, 2016, 03:55:09 PM
many ways in addition to getting money from the signature campaign .As invest your money in trading, do the faucet, and also play gambling. it will make you benefit.
Signature campaign, trading is okay but playing gambling and do faucet is wasting of time and money, there's is not guarantee that your money will be double instantly in gambling it's very risk, and doing faucet is wasting of time you cannot earn 0.01 btc in faucet bro even you stay 24 hours.



OP is interested in knowing other ways to earn bitcoins apart from signature campaign, and you cannot go for trading and gambling on this forum, you need to visit those particular sites to invest your money.

He particularly mentioned about things  outside on this forum which is not being asked by the OP. Aside from signature campaigns you could also do earn here by selling you goods and  sell your skills which could possibly give you decent amounts of bitcoin. You could just go to services section and  choose whats best for you.
8575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: WORST decision about BTC on: September 13, 2016, 03:53:11 PM
Fortunately I didn't have any bad episode, wise investments done by me for now.
People do act perfect only when they get enough maturity. But, all the decisions are taken for a good cause unfortunately turning into worst. People so far sharing their experience for their concluded decision, hope your investment is also completed with a better benefit for you.

My worst decision was investing into cloud mining by 2013 in CEX site. I lost around 0.01 BTC, then they were very big amount for me because I were earning from faucets only that at the times.
Hope your investment into cloud mining with CEX will not be a worst decisions when they are resuming their business of cloud mining again when bitcoin goes higher price levels like $800 or $900.
But, most of the bitcoiners have made this kind of decisions when cloud mining were very much promising for our investment some time back.


Yes and I believe that almost all users have lost their money in cloud mining sites in the past and now they will be not at all interested in investing it again in it even if they promise best returns.

I do believe that majority of us here are  victims of cloudmining sites in the past when we are just a newbie  and doesnt enough knowledge on those things. We do easily fall on those schemes because we believe on those promised high returns on our investments but  for now we learned from our mistakes.
8576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Keep or sell? on: September 13, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Selling your coins is the best option you could do right now because the price wont be higher after this year he will only get lower and lower so sell your coins now it is possible to get more for it!
You talk like you have a magic ball that tell you Bitcoin will not go up by 2017. I have seen posts here with different predictions to as high as 1 million USD but they have nothing to show to back up their claim. Bitcoin is unpredictable just take for example the prediction about halving... we didnt even notice the changes.

Just all speculations  are here and no one really know on what price would  bitcoin would reach. It really depends on the adoption and on its users on how price would gonna behave. Some may hold because they are believing on a sudden price increase which they are always aiming for profits.
8577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why price of Bitcoin too stable? on: September 13, 2016, 03:49:46 PM
We are down again from yesterday's price and that just goes to show us that bitcoin's price cannot be expected to be stable in its early stage of existence. There are quite a lot of factors that make the price behave that way. I think these fluctuations are going to continue for the next few years until bitcoin has a solid base of users that uses it on a regular basis.
You are right but I already knew this, of course the bitcoin is not stable and its also not predictable, it can go up in a hour but also go down after such an hour.
The bitcoin is fluctuating all the time and is mostly not standing long on one number...

Inflantions and fluctuations are just normal on bitcoin price since there are factors that do affect on its movement. Previously bitcoins price become stable a quite time then it suddenly rises and now it start to go down again. Same as you said we really dont know what would be the price on upcoming events or time,
8578  Economy / Economics / Re: How many Bitcoin do you have saved? on: September 13, 2016, 03:45:41 PM
Right now I have a couple bitcoin saved about 6.72. I am trying very hard to reach the 10 bitcoin and be prepared for any price jumps. My plan is to have 10 by the end of 2016, cause i firmly believe 2017 will be the year of bitcoin and for bitcoin. I'm hoping to see prices going over 1k and then I could sell 10 of them which would be nice profit.

You have descent amount of coins and if you try to trade smartly with them then I think you will be holding more then 10 btc by the end of the year as of now I am having only 3 btc with me, hoping for some more in future.
6.72 bitcoins is  decent enough to do tradings and  how i wish that i could even reach those amounts  because i do only posses only 1btc since in the first place when i came to bitcoin world. Trading would possibly  achieve amount on the end of the year but it really depends on how you trade and also on luck.
8579  Other / Off-topic / Re: How to tell your Girlfirend about BitcoiN?? on: September 13, 2016, 03:43:50 PM
Like in the Topic said.

How would u guys explain Bitcoin to your Girlfriend!

cheers


I will gift gift her few bitcoin. Then she will feel , what the shit is this. Then comes the story. I will explain each part and process of earning and dealing with bitcoin. She will really fall in love with bitcoin because girls loved to shop so with her extra income she could earn extra for her shopping

Physical bitcoin would you give? Then for sure  you must give it and  there must be a store that would accept bitcoin physically on your place. If you intend to give  bitcoin itself and  theres no shop to spent on for sure it would be useless since she would need to exchange it to fiat before she could spent those.
8580  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 13, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
I do not know a way to get a steady income in crypto... I can say that trading can give you a good income, but I don't think you will get a steady income there. If you diversify with some other tasks, this might help you.

No steady income there. It will be at the basis of how it will fluctuate. If it does not then there will be no profit for one day. So still better have a day job while producing more income in trading. Then a business to start would be the best choice for a steady income.

There are chances of loss in business too if you take any wrong decision, best way to get steady income is to have a full time job where you get fixed and stable income in the form of salary.
Much better is to have multiple source of income, people need to have business that can produce income in everyday lives and also if possible to have full time job is much better then insert the earning in bitcoin i think you can get the stable income on that methods.

Its really better to have many source of income  when we are living  because we could put some assurance to ourselves that we would do experience such problems regarding on financial state thats why we should think on how we would achieve it. Leverage incomes would be the best thing to do.
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