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861  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank Digital Currencies: a Threat or a Blessing? on: July 27, 2020, 07:11:32 PM
CBDCs are not likely to help simple folks because helping them would come at the expense of regular bankers.

I don't buy the conspiracy theory angle. Central banks are not beholden to consumer banks. The Fed is much more concerned about preventing a depression than catering to the business model of JPMorgan Chase, for example

Well, that remains to be seen and then probably bought, the conspiracy theory part

I don't know for certain but let me guess, isn't JPMorgan Chase one of the chartered commercial banks that can elect some of the board members of the Federal Reserve regional banks? Couldn't it turn out that the Fed is now so much concerned about preventing a depression specifically because it caters to the business model of JPMorgan and their bros from Wall Street?

The banks do have powerful lobbyists though. I could see them opposing this on a fundamental level. We'll see whether Congress is in their pocket or not when the time comes. The Fed and others in favor of CBDCs do have some influence, and legislators also have an interest in the potential benefits for economic stability

As far as I know, the Fed has put on hold the idea of a digital version of the dollar. So it's now your time to guess who may have already won this battle

In light of collapsing economy, JPMorgan plans to lay off several members of Congress

What really would make it difficult is that if they sell more bitcoin than they have. Right now banks have the right to loan out more money than they can and they even buy shares and stocks of companies as well, so they get only a a certain amount but basically feel like unlimited amount of loaning out and investment with a lot more money than they have

CBDCs have nothing to do with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency, for that matter
862  Economy / Economics / Re: Interesting perspective of Investors on: July 27, 2020, 04:11:50 PM
Sounds interesting. I am one of those people. I would hold onto my bitcoins until the price reaches the mark of 20000$. It is highly unlikely to happen anytime soon, but I have faith that we are going to see something surprising this year amidst all the economic crisis going across the world due to the ongoing pandemic

Like another Chinese Ponzi?

A year ago Bitcoin had surged to almost 15k in a matter of a few months while the other market remained still (in dollar terms). As it later became known, this sudden surge, which came out of nowhere, was due to a Chinese Ponzi scheme that accepted bitcoins. No wonder Bitcoin dropped when it imploded within a couple months. It's been a year since then, so we can plausibly expect something like that to occur again. The timing is right

Time will justify who has taken better decision

Ether has been on the rise
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 27, 2020, 12:37:22 PM
One such in England (an NHS Nightingale Hospital)
With such open space, how do they plan to separate those who might be ill, from those who is ill and in serious condition? They all breath in one area. Even with up-to-date air cleaning system, some bacterias will move freely in the whole are

Viruses are not bacteria

And as I'm inclined to think, they can be killed with ultraviolet and ozone. That's essentially one of the reasons why open places with a lot of sunshine are relatively safe. Regardless, this is a kind of field hospital where everyone is considered infected. They could run tests before admission, and even if some people free of coronavirus get admitted by mistake, this won't make things particularly worse than they would be without these hospitals
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Physical Casinos Decoded : on: July 27, 2020, 10:25:08 AM
They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

Smart governments understand that banning something is bad for people, because people will do it illegally

That's not always the case

Drugs are strictly illegal and for the right reasons, even if some people are using them anyway. Moreover, if they were not made illegal while their sale wasn't a severe criminal offence, the majority of people would be using them with devastating consequences. In this way, banning something is not always bad for people. Casinos are borderline in this regard, and that's also the reason why they are banned in some countries and only allowed in special zones in other countries
865  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank Digital Currencies: a Threat or a Blessing? on: July 26, 2020, 08:07:17 PM
But if CBDC would be a thing - a person new to crypto wouldn't dive that deep to get into real decentralized market and will end up with centralized CBDC which is not so different from having regular money on bank account.
This way the rest of crypto market will die eventually, because most of users will miss out

The harsh truth is that it can't be "a thing", even in theory

And while someone may in fact get lured into this stuff, due to negligence or incompetence, and probably on hearing from someone like Nouriel Roubini that CBDCs will obliterate cryptocurrencies, it won't take long till he sees that a particular specimen of CBDC a) won't be able to hurt crypto, and b) will start losing value after the CB in CBDC starts printing it like it ain't no thing. That way, no thing, no matter how you look at it (sorry for double negatives)
866  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 26, 2020, 07:27:22 PM
Indeed, all things considered and equal, you wouldn't spend most of your time on something which pays less (that I certainly agree with). But it still does make sense to put at least some effort into something which pays less even if your total income will suffer. The point is, it is never "all things considered and equal" in real life, and you don't know how it is going to play out in the long run. It may turn out that spending (wasting in your speak) some time and effort on a seemingly less profitable activity will pay back manifold in due course. Especially when they finally ban you from WinDice
That actually makes sense, what is scary is we have talked about how we could abuse wolf.bet and that would be profitable in the past page or so Cheesy. I am sorry to wolf.bet personally for such a topic, I just saw it and jumped into it and wanted to share my opinion but obviously it is not a safe topic and wouldn't want to encourage anyone

To tell the truth, I was speaking generally

WinDice just turned up conveniently as an illustrative example to show that more general idea. It actually has a lot of application well beyond gambling. For example, two countries which trade with each other can produce two products. From a naive point of view, it may seem that each country should only produce one product, i.e. the one with lower cost of production, while buy the other from the second country. In real life, however, it may be economically practical to produce both products in either country, although in different proportions, of course, and buy the rest
867  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 26, 2020, 05:45:29 PM
I've read about that too

Moreover, it had been stated by many right at the very beginning that lockdowns and quarantines were there not to prevent the spread of the virus as it was impossible to do (which proved correct, by the way), but only to slow down the virus so that the healthcare system wouldn't collapse. In other words, governments did everything they could, and now we are already past the point where quarantines could actually be useful. To repeat, they were not to prevent or stop the disease but to slow down its spread and win some time

If that is the case, then I don't think that the objective has been achieved

I don't know about India (in fact, I'm not even sure there is a health service available to general population in this country), but in European countries, especially the ones most severely affected by Covid-19 (Italy, Spain, England, maybe a couple others), the quarantine has probably served its purpose of providing time for the healthcare system to adapt to the situation. I've posted images from Saint Petersburg in Russia where a huge multi-purpose exhibition complex has been transformed into a field hospital



One such in England (an NHS Nightingale Hospital)
868  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 26, 2020, 03:40:57 PM
To impose a total curfew and move army into the streets (snipers on roofs and that kind of thing)? Okay, and what's next? You can't put the whole country on quarantine for a couple of years. And since we have already been on quarantine for two months, and it didn't help, there's not much that the government, in fact any government, can do. It seems that their only option is to sit and pray that most people will pull through on their own and the infection will subside eventually. People shouldn't call on government but rather care for themselves by themselves

I have seen some of the interviews with the experts. They say that once the community spread happens, lockdowns and quarantines may have only limited impact. And in the United States, the community spread started many months back and now there is hardly any county or city which is free from it. The only thing to do now is to take adequate precautions, such as wearing of masks and gloves

I've read about that too

Moreover, it had been stated by many right at the very beginning that lockdowns and quarantines were there not to prevent the spread of the virus as it was impossible to do (which proved correct, by the way), but only to slow down the virus so that the healthcare system wouldn't collapse. In other words, governments did everything they could, and now we are already past the point where quarantines could actually be useful. To repeat, they were not to prevent or stop the disease but to slow down its spread and win some time
869  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank Digital Currencies: a Threat or a Blessing? on: July 26, 2020, 02:57:18 PM
It is a good idea indeed, but hell, people are business-minded, money minded. To hell for everyone's ease of life, if I don't profit, no one else does kind of mentality. A central party to control most would actually allow up for a lot of decent improvements since most disagreements could be met with proper solutions immediately

To sum it up, CBDCs are not likely to help simple folks because helping them would come at the expense of regular bankers. But if we take this part away from CBDCs, what is left then? The irony is that central banks will have to make CBDCs useful to the general public if they want more control over the financial activities of the populace. But this is impossible without hurting regular banks, to some degree

Anyway, it will be interesting to find out what CBDCs are going to look like in practice once they arrive
870  Economy / Economics / Re: Business / private sector is dead on: July 26, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
You basically confirm what I'm saying, i.e. that a decent chocolate bar costs 2 euro and a shitty one a quarter of that. If you would have to pay the same price for good stuff and trash, you would be right. And you would be right too if you paid different prices for essentially the same stuff, like 2 euro for a European chocolate bar and 0.5 euro for the same quality out of some backward country where the labor is cheap. But this is not the case as you say yourself
why would all of the sudden the topic changes from private sectors from being dead to chocolate. I guess you have made a lot of discussions to which lead out to concrete evidences on the private sector

I'm not sure how to understand this part

What evidence are you talking about? Care to explain? Just in case, it was not me who raised the point of cheap labor versus expensive labor. So, in my turn, why do you ask me, exactly? Regardless, for small businesses which can't diversify, the cost of labor (which was exemplified in the example of chocolate) has everything to do with their survival. And if some businesses are to die due to pandemic, it will be the smaller ones which have higher chances of going belly up. Simply because they can't move to countries with cheap workforce
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Las Vegas Casinos are open - end of the Pandemic era. on: July 26, 2020, 07:30:00 AM
New cases and it is breaking records. We all know the possibility of this happening but I think it will continue to increase over 40K cases if they don't put some measure to keep the number increasing. Is it the people or it is just that the government doesn't care?

And what can the government do?

To impose a total curfew and move army into the streets (snipers on roofs and that kind of thing)? Okay, and what's next? You can't put the whole country on quarantine for a couple of years. And since we have already been on quarantine for two months, and it didn't help, there's not much that the government, in fact any government, can do. It seems that their only option is to sit and pray that most people will pull through on their own and the infection will subside eventually. People shouldn't call on government but rather care for themselves by themselves
872  Economy / Economics / Re: Business / private sector is dead on: July 25, 2020, 09:01:23 PM
I know a lot of people who complain about the Hindus saying they have taken up the entire web niche and do not give a way to others - but even more I know people who do not feel this. And you know why? Because those who complain about the Hindus are not very far from them in terms of the quality of their work and their code. Everyone who has at least once encountered the "legendary cheap Hindus" knows that it is better to pay an extra $ 10 / hour than then redo all their shit code. Think about it at your leisure, colleague. And good luck with your job!

This has nothing to do with quality .... it's about fair prices

Fair prices go along with quality

In other words, you can't compare prices without reference to the quality provided. And something tells me that prices are more or less the same across the globe for the same work standards. It simply doesn't make sense to ask below the market rates as you will be selling yourself cheap to cheap employers below your notch. And this has nothing to do with the lowest possible standard of living which you implicitly set as a reference point. You may live in the depths of Africa and still ask the highest price as long as you are up to snuff

I live in Europe and i can say to you that your wrong... 

A chocolate bar made in Europe costs 2 euros , a chocolate bar coming from outside the EU costs 0.5 euros and it's junk when you open it you can see it's old ,and they used more sugar then cacao...

And where am I wrong here?

You basically confirm what I'm saying, i.e. that a decent chocolate bar costs 2 euro and a shitty one a quarter of that. If you would have to pay the same price for good stuff and trash, you would be right. And you would be right too if you paid different prices for essentially the same stuff, like 2 euro for a European chocolate bar and 0.5 euro for the same quality out of some backward country where the labor is cheap. But this is not the case as you say yourself
873  Economy / Economics / Re: Business / private sector is dead on: July 25, 2020, 07:54:46 PM
I know a lot of people who complain about the Hindus saying they have taken up the entire web niche and do not give a way to others - but even more I know people who do not feel this. And you know why? Because those who complain about the Hindus are not very far from them in terms of the quality of their work and their code. Everyone who has at least once encountered the "legendary cheap Hindus" knows that it is better to pay an extra $ 10 / hour than then redo all their shit code. Think about it at your leisure, colleague. And good luck with your job!

This has nothing to do with quality .... it's about fair prices

Fair prices go along with quality

In other words, you can't compare prices without reference to the quality provided. And something tells me that prices are more or less the same across the globe for the same work standards. It simply doesn't make sense to ask below the market rates as you will be selling yourself cheap to cheap employers below your notch. And this has nothing to do with the lowest possible standard of living which you implicitly set as a reference point. You may live in the depths of Africa and still ask the highest price as long as you are up to snuff
874  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: JETWIN CASINO HAS OFFICIALLY REFUSED TO PAY ANY OF MY 25,000 DOLLARS IN WINNINGS on: July 25, 2020, 06:28:05 PM
It looks to me that none of you really won anything. They show you big wins only to lurk you to deposit money that they will run away with. This is very popular scamming tactics

There was a similar discussion around here some time ago

I'm not sure if it was about Jetwin or similar fraud, but you could easily "win" a few thousand dollars but you wouldn't be able to withdraw your winnings, indeed. I tried and it became evident that it was a blatant scam. It is strange that people still fall for this type of fraud. The best way to react is simply forget about your "winnings" as they are not
875  Economy / Economics / Re: Central Bank Digital Currencies: a Threat or a Blessing? on: July 25, 2020, 11:45:23 AM
As a follow-up post, many people seem to erroneously assume that CBDCs are going to be blockchain-based. Although we don't know that for certain as no central bank digital currency has been launched yet (with China presumably now testing the digital permutation of its currency)
Every governments in the world appreciate blockchain and from my own understanding theres no way the CBDC will survive without the use of blockchain

A CBDC is only another form of fiat

So how did fiat survive without blockchain for a few dozens of years if we start counting from the end the gold standard in 1920's (with America going off it in 1934)? Moreover, what's in it for central banks? They are the source of trust and truth (well, as far as money is concerned), so why should they rely on blockchain, and for what purpose exactly?

I dont doubt that CBDC will be centralized and the issue of the CBDC is to integrate another payment system which maybe a solution to cost of cash transfer and global trading

But seriously, how come that you don't doubt that CBDCs will be centralized and at the same time claim that CBDCs won't survive without the use of blockchain? I for one see no connection here
876  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is based on probability. on: July 25, 2020, 10:34:22 AM
A lot of people do not want agree that surviving in the market today requires every trader to come to terms that they are trading on probability and at every moment of the trade there are series of different possible outcomes.

As a trader, the best you can do is find the most likely scenario based on the data you have and understanding the risk involved too.
Choose the best probable outcomes that favors you to avoid stories as rekt.
It is not only trading that is based on probability but life itself. It has been proven that no person nor software that can accurately predict the market as our trading decision is based on the accumulated mind. It is decision we take base on faith and fear. However the patience traders always end up in profits.

Patience is also a double-edged sword

I've always been saying that patience is overrated (as well as confidence)

The point is, if you lack knowledge and understanding of the market and the situation, then no amount of patience is going to help you. On the other hand, armed with true knowledge and genuine understanding, you don't need patience at all for the simple reason you would know exactly when to trade and when to stay away from trading. Psychologically, impatience is a result of feeling lost, i.e. not knowing what to do and when to do it
877  Economy / Economics / Re: How long will it take banks to phase out physical cash completely? on: July 24, 2020, 11:38:38 PM
After all, CBDCs will provide virtually the same benefits of crypto (speed and low costs) while retaining the same properties of physical cash (especially price stability)

They will not offer the most important thing

Which is predictable and controlled supply (read, hard-capped). And this also happens to be the first part of Bitcoin's value proposition, the other part being its decentralized nature (which CBDCs also lack). All the advantages of CBDCs (whatever those might be) will become instantly irrelevant once central banks start printing these "new" currencies like there's no tomorrow. That's a doornail into the coffin of any CBDC out there. Put simply, a CBDC is just fiat on juice
878  Economy / Gambling / Re: WOLF.BET - $500 Daily Race! 30% Rakeback! DICE with the best autobet mode on: July 24, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
Let's say you are aware 18 hours a day, you want to spend all of that working, why spend even 1 minute of it on something that doesn't pay as well as the other one? You will give all the 18 hours to the one that pays well. You wouldn't go 9-9 , you wouldn't go 12-6, you wouldn't even go 17-1 because in the end the more you spend on bigger pay the better for your income

Despite all odds, it makes plenty of sense, however

Indeed, all things considered and equal, you wouldn't spend most of your time on something which pays less (that I certainly agree with). But it still does make sense to put at least some effort into something which pays less even if your total income will suffer. The point is, it is never "all things considered and equal" in real life, and you don't know how it is going to play out in the long run. It may turn out that spending (wasting in your speak) some time and effort on a seemingly less profitable activity will pay back manifold in due course. Especially when they finally ban you from WinDice
879  Local / Новички / Re: За вами уже выехали. on: July 24, 2020, 10:27:49 PM
увы, johhnyUA был прав. речь именно о регистрации права собственности. как уже писалось выше прописка ничего не решает. можно прописать и выписать по решению собственника или продать квартиру вместе с прописанными в ней людьми) А вот передача прав собственности на недвижимое имущество очень деликатная тема. и если неправильно передавать и неосмотрительно принимать, то может уйти недвижка в дальние дали. и как вы правильно написали - ищи свищи ее потом. прецедентов - уйма

Окей, можно подробности в студию?

Без указания имен, времен и так далее. Как записывал и, что самое главное, как потом выписывал из договора купли-продажи. Или по принципу "обещать - не значит жениться"? Ну то есть сначала думал оформить жену как покупателя, а потом вдруг передумал? Если так, тогда почему передумал - уже не вдаваясь в юридические подробности? Интересен сам ход мыслей, и, думаю, что не мне одному. Может жена увидела какой меркантильный муж попался ("обещал - и не женился") и решила сыграть в ящик (зачеркнуто) в ту же игру? Типа живи один в своей халупе
880  Local / Альтернативные криптовалюты / Re: Дно которое все ждали on: July 24, 2020, 08:37:14 PM
Дно вроде заканчивается, крипта вроде начала оживать с началом роста цены на биток. Но что то он на отметке 9-10к замер пока что, отката быть вроде не должно сильного.Хотя х.з. Grin
По графику видно что крипта как раз на реальном дне, и очень много проектов упали в десятки а некоторые и в сотни раз. Но я боюсь представить себе что будет если дед сейчас сходит на дно) к примеру на 3-4 тысячи, тогда вся альта свалится в ад.
Ну, для многих ваш прогноз в 3-4 тыс. - это не дно, это крах или апокалипсис. А если говорить о дне, то оно относительно и точку относительности ставите именно вы. Если считать с 2017 года, когда все было на хаях, то да, дно однозначно. Но если взглянуть на всю историю существования, то не все так и плохо. Тем более, мы видим, что после обитания на дне океана, крипта постоянно растет

Пора немного освежить память

Напомню, что не так давно, а именно в марте месяце этого года (этого, Карл) биток одномоментно сходил к 4к (а на Bitmex ушел и того ниже). И это был никакой не крах и не апокалипсис, а всего лонг-сквиз. Но самое главное не это, а то, что такие прострелы могут и, скорее всего, будут происходит и дальше -- как только наберется достаточно длинных маржинальных позиций
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