I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff.  To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools. If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hospitals etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc) That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov) This is so out of line with reality that it's ridiculous. You are taking socialist/nationalistic policies that result in outsourcing and use them to criticize free enterprise. The very fact that people are motivated by "greed" (in fact, everyone is motivated by the same thing. Self-maximization according to their incentives.) is the very reason anything is built, with or without a government. It's just that when it's done in a free society it's built according to the needs of the clients who use it, no according to the needs of the politicians who want votes. Ok go watch a documentary on a capitalistic society. You're saying that people will just go ahead and make schools, hostpitals, etc, out of their own pocket just for the good of humanity? Don't make me laugh....Your post makes no sense.. Does Wal-Mart outsource jobs to sweatshops in China for the good of the people? Does all the other high profile companies outsource their jobs to cheap labor in India and China for the good of the people too? |
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Maybe without government education would be different, but there would be education. state owned school are something very new in history but there was always skilled people to do skilled job...
And without government people wouldn't stay home and die cause road will disappear, they would find a way...
I understand better English than i write it sorry.
All states have their own "government" or centralized authority, so that still counts as a government in a way. As for there would be education, skilled people doing skilled job, No, there wouldn', for most of history there has been leadership between peoples, since the start of civilization. Not having such leadership would bring people literally back to the stone age, as I've shown, people are greedy and selfish. Without a government, most of the things many people rely on in life(40% of americans rely on medicare, most children rely on public schools etc etc) would not exist. |
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Its going down! I'm yelling timber...
U heard it hear first folks
This is a long term coin, not short term. What it does now, doesn't matter in the least. If it goes down, buy more. really? generic scrypt algorithm and dated TOR technology? What are you going to do when everyone realises that TOR is about anonymous as fat guy hiding behind a skinny treeNot gonna argue about razor right now because I don't care, but the sentence in bold is just dumb. +1 I think he meant to say, Razor is as "anonymous" as any other altcoin, because all altcoins automatically come with TOR enabled. Seriously....Razor's "TOR anonymity" is available on literally every altcoin there is....God people are so stupid to actually fall in and buy this crap. And oh look, the "devs" that also own about 10 other pump and dump coins, hasnt made a comment/update in a long time, this is just another p/d scam.. |
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I pay taxes because I want children to be educated, hospital to work, road to be in working state, science to progress
Yea because there is no way any of those things would happen without armed maniacs in blue costumes running around taking peoples stuff. To be honest, there is no way those things would happen without a government. Companies are only involved in things in which they can reap sustainable profit. That's why there are so few private schools compared to public(government owned) schools. If we left it up to companies and our fellow brethen to do things like build roads, builds schools, build hosptials etc, then nothing would get done because in our capitalistic society(frankly any type of society as well), people are motivated by Money and greed, with all companies trying to gain the highest amount of profit at the cost of others( look at wal-mart outsourcing jobs to sweatjobs in china, same with apple etc etc) That's why we need a government to do the things that no one else will, and I'm very thankful for having one that does so.(the u.s gov) |
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Same.. I might drop some Fiat on LTC actually.. FTC also attracts me.
Curious about the interest in FTC. Aside from the fact it's about the lowest price it's ever been, I've not seen any buy signals that would indicate anyone else taking an interest in it. Last I heard there wasn't much active development, but to be fair I haven't paid any attention to it for at least 6 months. It seems I'm still holding 0.249 FTC for some reason. And FTC is only going to get lower, along with it's bitcoin-clone brother, LTC. maybe not new coin is announced litecoindark same people are involved in this maybe they will use this to boost up ltc or drop it completely. i near future we will see what will happen so dont drop out just yet ltc. I wouldn't count on that, "boost up ltc" |
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Does "BitcoinDark" have any working anonymity at all? All I see is whitepaper, but no product. Seems like just another dev pump and dump to me.
Read the entire thread and draw your own conclusions. BTCD is the furthest thing from a P&D coin my friend JJ I've skimmed through many of the previous pages...there isn't even a Beta yet. So far it's all talk with no product, aka Pump and Dump. |
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So where did you post that you sold most of your IXC? And why?
I've been posting for at least a couple months now on various threads that I've had to sell to pay bills. It wasn't all at once, just a few blocks at a time as I needed the money. I will not go below 1% or 210,000 IXC. I'll beg, borrow and steal before I sell anymore. And if I can get any money to buy BTC I will start buying my IXC back. I've been out of a job since last year so making ends meet has been a very difficult task for me. My wife is not very happy about all the money I pumped into this imaginary crypto money. She keeps telling me: "It's not even real money." Haha. I hope to prove her wrong and show her all the real things this imaginary money can buy [within the next year]. I have about 240,000 IXC on a hard drive some where from back in the day when I routinely forked it. I also have about 60K on another set of flash drives from DS several exchanges back then also. Recently I started going through a bunch of flash drives and found 400K of SC2 across several hundred wallets I setup to attack it on launch day as well pleasantly finding 9500 LTC I totally forgot I had mined during the first few weeks. Best of luck on IXC but I seriously doubt it is going anywhere. Theoretically you have about ~10 BTC but selling off that much IXC would be near impossible, so yeah, hold it or sell it slow. ~BCX~ Geez, makes me Jelly, I would sell those Litecoins in a heartbeat. |
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Does "BitcoinDark" have any working anonymity at all? All I see is whitepaper, but no product. Seems like just another dev pump and dump to me.
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I market bought 2100 XMR for a client. I don't by any way mean it's much, but seriously I can only make one phone call per day, to one of my best investor friends, to avoid the price rising too quickly.
The total wealth reachable by my mailing list is 100s of millions. Last time I bothered them was when I told that "Bitcoin is something that you should buy now, even without research, even with small money, as long as it is now". 2013-2-6.
No offense - but why would you be pumping the coin like this? You are creating wealth for random dudes on forums if you plan on "eventually calling in the 100s of millions of dollars of big guns" instead of creating wealth for your investment network. Your speech and actions tell different stories. As somebody pretty sold on Monero I just got a lot more concerned ... Monero is so small that it needs to grow. Big money does not come before middle-sized money, and they don't come after small money has already bought in. It is not good for any coin if one group controls it. So it would be counterproductive for the coin (and me) to pump it among my buddies alone. The history of altcoins proves this. Organic growth is better. So you won't sell it to your big buddies until lots of little fish are in it because you want to prove it has enough network effect to not ruin your reputation by failing? Meantime you're pumping it to help it get the network effect to little fishes ... or you're pumping it up so you can get out without losing because you've found it's going to be replaced with something else? Maybe that's in development? Like I said ... your "I'm going to use my biddies to pump this thing to the moon ... get in now so we can get it up to the point where I can sell it to them" ... just. Kinda alarms me. I sorta see the logic. But it's still kinda blatant shilling at best. , - That doesn't make any sense, there isn't that much liquidity on the markets right now, so obviously anyone in their right mind would want More users to come and join/mine/buy/sell, to provide liquidity, so that when you buy the price wouldn't go up exponentially.or you're pumping it up so you can get out without losing because you've found it's going to be replaced with something else? - That also makes no sense, rptiella has said many times Over and Over that XMR is the only altcoin he holds besides BTC itself. |
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Same.. I might drop some Fiat on LTC actually.. FTC also attracts me.
Curious about the interest in FTC. Aside from the fact it's about the lowest price it's ever been, I've not seen any buy signals that would indicate anyone else taking an interest in it. Last I heard there wasn't much active development, but to be fair I haven't paid any attention to it for at least 6 months. It seems I'm still holding 0.249 FTC for some reason. And FTC is only going to get lower, along with it's bitcoin-clone brother, LTC. |
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Network effect, infrastructure, merchant adoption, development (those apply to all coins versus Bitcoin)
That... and it's a copy and paste coin
sorry but form a real world perspective I don't see anything but something based on bitcoin, but with improvements (eg simplified, capable of mass adoption.) How exactly is Litecoin more simplified than Bitcoin? It is pretty much the same thing with quicker block times and more money supply. The algorithm is different, but that doesn't have anything to do with it being simpler. Also, I don't see how it is any more capable of mass adoption than Bitcoin is. Not specifically directed at you, just ranting: People complain about cryptos having extra features, but I think it is silly. I have a solution for those people: don't use them. It will attract some users that do want to use them though, and therefore it helps with adoption. simplified was probably the wrong word to use, i more meant from using both for real world trans ltc is slightly smoother, still personally don't see it as smooth enough for mass adoption. extra features point, none of those extra "features" are attracting anyone new from outside this very small niche community. Hey, you wanna know why none of your points make sense? Bitpay. First off, Litecoin's "slightly smoother" blocktime time of 2.5minutes is Put To Shame by hundreds of altcoins with 20 second and below blocktimes, like Fastcoin etc etc. Second off, Bitpay requires 0 confirmations for Bitcoin, so you don't have to wait 10minutes like you used to, again, making Litecoin's only "feature" of having a 2.5minute blocktime, irrelevant. In those respects, along with the fact that Litecoin is a bitcoin clone that offers absolutely nothing, makes Litecoin Useless. The only reason it's "still standing" is because past people have put in some infrastructure into it, but as you can see, it's been on a price decline since November, and has Not followed Bitcoin's in it's price increases etc, which means Litecoin is on its own, it's not the silver to anything, it's worthless. |
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Hm, I am seriously thinking to move all my BTC to LTC these days. It just smells the bottom. We tested lows twice and bounced very aggressively.
OKCoin LTC weekly volume is highest ever on any exchange, it's bigger than on btc-e during launch of last huge bubble. Much bigger. And it's 5-8 times bigger than OKCoin LTC volume during that phase.
BTCe volume is not as big though but BTC-e had much bigger share of LTC market back then.
I'm tempted, very tempted.
Same.. I might drop some Fiat on LTC actually.. FTC also attracts me. So you guys would buy into dying/dead coins like Feathercoin and Litecoin, that have absolutely Nothing going for it since they are both 100% Bitcoin clones and are going down in price everyday because of lack of buyers....? Yea makes sense Now I know why 99% of people involved with crypto trading lose all their money. Geniuses. |
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Ltc has no special features. The course is manipulated by fraudsters.
A normal citizen does not understand why he should keep Ltc.
If btc drops to 370, then ltc stands on 2.5. Under 2.5 could buy one, because gamers buy.
Ultimately ltc will fall to the level of doge. This is just for gamblers.
I would say litecoins 'special feature' is that it makes btc look like sending a fuckin money gram to South Sudan, I have barely clicked send to cash out poolside before it's already confirmed in my wallet. Once people start spending it, especially for micro transactions like a cup of coffee. I agree what the fellow tried to state with his poor English which is that unfortunately for everyone, while we were watching btc, china DOMINATED ltc, for people mining btc, look at the top pools compared to ltc, not only are they all in china, the websites are designed to be for mainlanders and not the global community. There is so much Chinese, I can't even navigate with google translate enough to register or even apply for an acc. IMO silverfish fucked everyone and they probably control over 50% of the supply if they even have a fraction of what they mined left... So?? Fastcoin's 10 second transaction time, makes Litecoin 2.5minutes look like a car without wheels trying to drive uphill. Litecoin is 100% Bitcoin clone with no noteworthy features over Bitcoin. It's true price is 0/worthless |
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1. Why is Ripple going up. It's a 100% pre-mined controversially currency. Many of you are convinced the network is a distributed MySql database instead of a p2p network. It had zero support after launch but 2 years later is still number 3. Why ? 2. Why is BitsharesX going up 50% / day. What are the key features ? What is so innovative at BitsharesX ? 3. Why is going NXT down. They have just launched the much anticipated Digital Goods Store. The NXT price decline is not something new. The currency's market cap started to fall 2 months ago, short time after Asset Exchange went live. It's like everytime they launch a new module, price is going lower and lower instead of rising. Why  Don't tell me Market Cap is not a good indicator because it's the most important indicator. 1) Ripple is indeed a premined scam to invest in, they recently issued another 20billion coins out of thin air, just to higher their market cap. Ripple is the most pathetic thing in crypto I have ever come across |
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Can you please remove ripple from coinmarketcap. They've issued 20billion more coins out of thin air, just to move up to #3 position, this is just pathetic.
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For every altcoin you will always hear its dead.
LTC is next to BTC so it can not died or be dead. He will rise and drop ass btc do the same.
Price on btc is constantly for past few weeks ~500$ ltc was ~5.5$.
So next to it seem like to many people forget that when BTC rise up all coin go up including LTC so people just relax and w8.
The thing is, litecoin has not followed bitcoin on its recent price swings, it's just been going down and down and down. There's even a article showing how lite coin isn't connected to bitcoin in it price rises. |
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Ok, lite coin failed purpose has been long gone, to be ASIC resistant.
It offers nothing over bitcoin, and has hardly an active dev team. It's price has dropped over 1000%, I'm sure that can be called dead! or failing.
How can it drop 1000%? It dropped from $40 to under $4 |
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Ok, lite coin failed purpose has been long gone, to be ASIC resistant.
It offers nothing over bitcoin, and has hardly an active dev team. It's price has dropped over 1000%, I'm sure that can be called dead! or failing.
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I am famous seeing my quotes on first post LOL Although i said they are irritating ..that is not proof of anything. I think the OP was being fair and bag holders are diving on him/her but i don't blame you guys defending XMR on the other hand either. I am kind of split on this LOL I see no smoking gun showing XMR is shady.. it may seem a bit fishy on occasion and their supporters may be irritating but all i see mostly here is come-from-above is a supporter with his never ending i am the the richest guy on earth routine.. which again, don't mean much.. unless you can prove come-from-above like made the coin or something we got nothing to sink our teeth into. so what i am seeing is not enough to call it a scam.. although i did say that yesterday (joking around) i see no real proof *yet And i feel obligated to be fair about it.. if i thought differently i would just say so i am not shy around here  /just my 2 cents  Are you joking. Come from above made a post saying that he was going to give 100 bitcoin to someone, guess what,he never did. He is trolling, he alsohasn't bought a single bitcointalk account. He's a troll Op's post has got to be the dumbest, piece of shit, I have ever read, and I'm on vacation. Not to mention, that op himself is a sock puppet account, as that's been shown in this thread. |
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Indeed,but the question is how do we get Monero to take that 1%? The numbers are certainly interesting here. I do see room for major growth, the question is when will it happen. Nice link,ty. We start talking to our drug dealer/prostitutes/traffickers/mafia/politicians friends about how monero can help them with their problems  lol^ I imagine it will take a year or so to get that kind of traction, even bitcoin's silk road had less than 1billions worth of btc traded on it.^ |
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