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861  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: December 01, 2023, 07:58:54 PM

I was telling someone that if I'm the one to have such a slip and the game is already showing me to cash out such an amount of money, which is equal to $865 based on our local exchange rate, seeing such an amount as cash out available and leaving it will make me appear like someone who is too greedy, but the guy was telling me it's not being greedy but it's all about taking risks. The debate didn't end well, so I decided to bring this up here to see the responses from experienced gamblers.
 
Lucky for anyone who ever has that bet slip, it seems like the game played in his favour.


When it comes to gambling we are all different, we have different ways of seeing things in terms of taking risks and cashing out early, your friend is ok with taking risks so you have to respect that, each one of us has a different personality when it comes to gambling, some are very careful, some careless and some has a risky behavior so we have to respect their decision as long as they don't regret their decision and they are comfortable with it.
It will also cause a rift between you and your friend if you keep interfering with your friend's decision, so let him decide for himself.
Greed or not I think that's what the person wants and we should respect the decision, he felt like he will earn more and it seems he can take risks, I will not call it greed but he just want more, it's obvious everyone wants more and nobody will decide to settle for less. But I will peacefully cash out my money to avoid stories that touches the heart.

Every gambler must exhibit one of this habit, being careful or careless and that's normal because we must not be the same, it's best to choose what's best for ourselves, when it comes to our gambling life we should avoid taking risk to avoid depression.
862  Local / Off-topic (Naija) / Re: Selfish Nigerians on: December 01, 2023, 01:57:30 PM
Even at this age people are still selfish and self-centered when it comes to sharing update that will help the next person, I have a friend who do genuine things and make genuine money  and he knows I am a student and I need something doing so as to get some of my basic needs as a student but he never tell me about it even when I keep going to see him often he never opened up anything to me,  though he gives me food and some other things  but that wasn't enough because the job he does is something I can do very well  and when I think about it I found out that he wants me to be coming to him for food, help etc I wonder what kind of friend will do that .
However,  I think he was scared that I will be making money like him or,  that I might even make more money than him that is why he decided to keep it as a secret but nothing is hidden under the earth but thank God I figured out what it is and he will be surprise how I knew it.
Nothing bad to share update, wetin A no know B fit know, believe me nobody fit do am alone everyone need help or support from each other but no be for now ohh everything don change everybody dey do wetin go favour am and don't wait for anyone update. Me personal any update wey go ruining my life I no want,  some people no know wetin their friends dey do for living sometimes the person fit dey into dirty bussiness or stealing but the person dey get money sharp and you want to join that person, na illegal business and grace differs.
It's better for you to make your own research and find what  suits you.
863  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 01:40:09 PM
Just thinking about Manchester City's upcoming game against Tottenham makes me doubt that they will easily win. Even though Tottenham's recent bad luck with injuries is a setback, we've seen outsiders surprise everyone else before. Do you remember the City vs. Chelsea game? It was unlikely that Chelsea would hold up, but they did. That surprising toughness could come from Tottenham. As for City passing Arsenal at the top, its not clear. Right now, both teams are playing very consistently. A long way to go, and I think its anyone's game now. Gunners' present lead doesnt mean things will go smoothly until the end. After watching the Premier League for a while, we know not to guess the results this early.
Am not in support of those saying Manchester city will win, we all know what Tottenham did from the starting of the season and seeing them with the poor performance shows that they'll come back strong, I know Manchester city is a strong team but I can't predict who will win the match, we have been seeing things like this from Manchester united and Chelsea, today good performance tomorrow poor performance, just like what you said we didn't expect the draw during the Chelsea vs Manchester city.

We can't judge for now if Arsenal can maintain that position but hopefully Arsenal will still be in the top position, Arsenal vs wolves will not be easy for wolves, it seems Arsenal is on fire with what they played with Lens, Wolves on the other hand have not show any sign of improvement.
864  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: December 01, 2023, 01:14:23 PM

I was impressed by the well deserve revenge. I did not anticipate that Arsenal would score five goals in the first half. Instead of six goals, I thought the game would end with one or two goals in favor of Arsenal. It was amazing to learn about the scorelines yesterday, and I can't explain why Lens flopped so badly.

Since Arsenal started in good form to play in the Champions League and Premier League this season, they did a good job of demonstrating their superiority over Lens and warning other teams to be mindful of them when they play against them.

Arsenal was the strongest team which score five goal in the first half itself,after this the Arsenal had start to play full defensive game.The Lens tried to counter attack for the five goals against them,but the strong Arsenal doesn't allow to score even one goal till the end of the game.This prove the dominating game of Arsenal in the Group B with this strong matches,even Lens was in the strong third position in the group B.This game again proves the strong position in the group,this will the warning message to the other team as like you said.With no surprise,Arsenal had scored his sixth goal at the end of the game and finish the game with 6-0 at the end of the match.
Indeed it's a warning to other teams that they should be careful of Arsenal when playing them,and one thing I have loved Arteta for is,not allowing a particular team to beat him twice.He has flogged all the teams that flogged them last season in the premier league.
Arsenal are among the teams I am tipping to finish first to 3rd in this year's champions league.I am optimistic that they will get to the semi final of this competition,and if care is not taken,they might probably go to the final as well.

I kept on watching yesterday's performance by the gunners,and to be frank,I am really happy with their performance of recent.They are beginning to have the mumentum they had from the start last season,and this time,they have experience,and know what to do to continue pressing forward.
Too real, Arsenal has never allowed any team win them twice and with what they played at Emirates stadium it's a clear  warning that they're not joking, just imagine in less than 21 mins 4 clean goals from Havertz, Gabriel, Saka, Martinelli , i believed Lens learnt new things during the match and my friend was like Lens will give reasons why they won Arsenal in the first leg. The gunners might likely go far but I don't know if they might win, the champions league, the competition seems tough and if any team is not prepared and ready they will be kick out.
865  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Off-topic discussion making you come out to be confused on: December 01, 2023, 11:14:38 AM
See, e no get as them go fit do am pass, because as this our board dey so, nah one of the most active board and I believe say you self know how something way dey active dey dey.
So, as e dey so, for just this little time way some corrections dey dey so, I dey observe say plenty crypto discussions nai we dey talk more for the board than before.
Exactly, na bitcoin discussions I dey see pass ever since people complain and a thread was created to caution the newbies about the shit post, but I don't really understand a new member with three activities dey complain about off topic discussion, I no understand sha, if every new members start to dey complain about off topic discussions how the board go dey.
866  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: December 01, 2023, 11:00:08 AM
Aside from paying your loan money, it comes with an interest that is sometimes high which makes it hard to pay.
I read what the op said and this was the first thing that pops up in my mind, I don't know for others but in my area taking loans comes with a big risk, like if you cannot meet up the date when you're expected to pay the lender, the lender will increase the money, so living in this kind of area you cannot just wake up one morning and decide to take loan, you must first consider the terms before taking a loan, right now the op is in a big problem with that kind of amount, I hope he will be able to settle the loan.

The op did the right thing by bring this topic although most people will criticize him but it's a lesson for those who wants to take a loan to bet thinking they will make profit, firstly don't take what's not yours to bet it sounds risky. But most people with that mindset will not listen and learn from the op mistake rather they will go ahead to take loan to gamble.
867  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Be careful during the halving season on: December 01, 2023, 10:37:23 AM
As bitcoin price dey high everybody go like talk about bitcoin and people will share their own opinion, and people go say stay away from scammers or avoid sharing your personal information with them, Just the way scam no dey show for fore head na so bitcoin holding no dey show for forehead na who talk them go attack, and people wey dey hold bitcoin when the time reach make over excitement no make them fall into the hands of scammers.
I believe except from this forum I never see any trusted place to talk about bitcoin and bitcoin holding, the truth is we should know where and when to talk about our bitcoin holding.
868  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Stop feeling you have arrived or you are the biggest on: November 30, 2023, 09:24:29 PM
My fellow country people I want tell ona something wey dey very  important so that if you dey for this category of people wey dey do am you go melo down. Alright the thing be say e get some people wey dey feel say dey don arrive, dey get money, dey get gbo gbo ti gbo mean while those gbo gbo ti gbo wey them get na another pesin 2hrs or 5rs expenses so my question come be waiting them dey brag for.  Some people dey miss opportunity because of the wey dem dey act or behave. So make ona put away this behavior if ona get because e no good and e fit cost you,  no dey bring your status to public,  no dey create unnecessary awareness instead relax make the public talk about you because e go dey very shameful and embarrassing say everything you dey brag about na pesin 2hrs expenses.
I no see any reason why you dey condemn other people life, na why some nigerians never grow for this country because them don leave their own problem and business dey face other people own, sometimes the way people dey poke nose for other people matter if them use that effort solve their problems e for better.
No be must say everybody go behave the same every body dey different, if person dey brag for he money make the person brag, I no see how this one affect Nigeria economy or I no see how e fit solve Nigeria problem, stop to dey judge other people personal life.
869  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people give preferential treatment to mothers more than fathers on: November 30, 2023, 09:07:49 PM
When a child is growing up the mother knows everything about the child, mothers watch their kids grow up and the child always stay with the mom, the word every child learn to pronounce first is mummy so this is enough reason why every child feels comfortable with mothers. Father's don't have the time to take care of a baby they're always busy with work or other things but Not every child gets familiar with the mom some will still prefer to ask the dad for help even if there's no friendly relationship, it depends on the person.
870  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What if we had only one language? on: November 30, 2023, 08:48:16 PM
So I have been wondering what if we had only one language?

What if all the countries of the world speaks just one language, would it have brought peace and unity in the world?

What's even the scientific explanation to the different languages we have in the world?
In my opinion if the world speaks one language it will be inappropriate, talking about peace and unity, peace and unity has nothing to do with language, tribe and culture even people from the same tribe who speaks the same language still have disunity and agruement so having one language will even promote disagreement and it will be very difficult to handle.
Your last question got me wondering, what really happened how did the world have different languages and culture and the interesting fact is if every tribe with different languages come together and learn how to love each other it will be perfect.
871  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 07:57:40 PM
Galatasaray's goals are all the result of Onanna. If someone argues that Onanna is not the issue, I will explain. Hakim Ziyech's two free kicks were simply small attempts at goal that Onana missed the post, allowing the goal to be scored. Given Onanna's performance from yesterday, even the academy goalie would not have performed that way. The team coach is also accountable for all of this, as he made a substitution that was ineffective despite Onanna's mistakes.
Actually you are right because most of the goals they scored was not supposed to be because if Onana had position well at least he would have saved those ball from entering the goal post, well some matches are always like that because sometimes we see players that normally perform very well start playing very poor in some matches so perhaps Onana was not that inform on that match.

Because Manchester United other previous matches Onana was actually the one that help them out if not they wouldn't have won most of there matches they did.
I disagree with both of you somehow but not totally. This is because the first goal wasn't Onana faults since there is no way he will be able to stop the ball from entering the posy when the wall was blocking him. The second goal was his fault, because he was able to stop the ball but allowed it to slip off his hands. I don't know why Onana is finding it difficult to hold balls in his hands  without allowing it to leave his hands. However, the player that caused both free kick on the same spot twice should have a bigger blame, which is Bruno. I was disappointed in them for not taking their advantage of winning the match serious.
The first solution Manchester united need to consider is finding another goal keeper, I don't really know what Onana is doing every game I will always find one fault in Onana and I believe all Manchester united fans are tired of Onana, sometimes I use to wonder if Onana is a keeper. Why bring Manchester united backward, I find no fault with the players they're trying and improving most especially Garnacho the boy is doing a great job. I will blame Onana why did he not save the free kick, keepers nowadays save penalty then what's free kick he can't save.
872  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Investing or trading with emotions on: November 30, 2023, 07:37:05 PM
One thing I observe with trading, person need to learn about trading before he start to dey trade and I don see people wey don spend money just to acquire the knowledge and know the strategies on how to trade. And people wey dey spend money to learn about trading them go later benefit from trading, I no know for people wey dey use signal but it sounds risky because na wetin another person go control.
I no blame them because they felt those people are expert and perfect so them dey trust the person, aside from expert na quick money them dey find because I see no reason why person go skip learning process, but in conclusion e good make you know wetin you dey do, and if you're not perfect in the trading aspect then you leave it
873  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you gamble because you don't have sufficient money? on: November 30, 2023, 07:08:22 PM

So my question is, is the percentage of the rich gambling lower than the middle and lower class?
It's likely said that the poor are into gamble with the mindset of cashing out a huge amount, then most people will say the rich gamble for fun and no hard feelings attached to their gambling life. Have seen a lot of rich men who are into gambling not because they want the money by all means but because they're an addict.
Some of them didn't have the money and wealth they're controlling now, talking about the addiction most rich men today didn't know they'll be wealthy and during that poor state they choose to gamble thinking they will earn huge amount of money, it became as an addiction and they cannot resist the urge to gamble because they're already an addict.
Talking about the percentage it's obvious that poor men gamble more than the rich men, it's very rare to see a wealthy man in the casino shop to bet, sometimes they get occupied with work.
874  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 30, 2023, 06:18:00 PM
Last season, Arsenal had a better duration at the top spot of the English Premier League table more than any other club did in the league last  season but that didn't stop Manchester City from becoming the eventual winners of the league title. City are currently the dominant team in the English Premier League as they've won the title in the past three seasons.

That being said, I think Arsenal will give City and Liverpool a tougher challenge than they did last season because at the moment, Mikel Arteta's men are flying high and I don't think there's any sign that they're gonna stop performing well anytime soon. This season's English Premier League title I think will be won by any of the current top three teams in the league standings

I won't argue with what you've said, but I believe it's still too early to point to clubs that are more likely to win the Premier League this season. This happened last season when we thought Arsenal had already won the league, but when they started underperforming, it led to back-to-back defeats, they eventually lost the league title to Manchester City, their close rival at the time. Liverpool, Manchester City, and Arsenal are currently the three most dominant teams in the Premier League, but we can't put all our hopes in them because we don't know which of them will fumble later and have a poor performance that will not make them not to be amongst the potential league contenders. Tottenham Hotspur was in the race too before but they are now out of the race because of their lack of inconsistency in the league games.
Last season when Arsenal handed the top position to Manchester city during that time they worked so hard for nothing but  let's observe something here the Arsenal of that season has changed, in attack, defence, cooperation and they seem outstanding, any team they face it's either a draw or a win. When Arsenal played with Manchester city I didn't expect such performance for them because Manchester city is a strong team, another example Arsenal vs Chelsea most Arsenal fans has already lost all hope but they find a way to equalize. If I must say there's no doubt that Arsenal might likely win the premier league this season. I seriously don't know what's wrong with Tottenham they didn't performance well from their previous match with Aston Villa but it was a tough one for Aston Villa tho.
875  Economy / Economics / Re: Growth mindset versus fixed mindset on: November 30, 2023, 05:55:08 PM
In my opinion, people with a growth mindset are very rare to find now in a society where everyone wants to be perfect and outstanding, a growth mindset comes with the willingness to learn from previous mistakes, not giving a damn about people's opinion but always willing to learn, having the ability to adapt to changes.
I believe most people with a fixed mindset is as a result of ignorance and they need to be expose for example what the op listed.
People who have refuse to accept their failure and flaws maybe they're avoiding embarrassment, fear of what the society will say and fear of what other people will think about them. But it's best to learn to be better and grow fast.
876  Economy / Economics / Re: It ain't meant to be easy on: November 30, 2023, 05:14:47 PM
Nothing in life comes easy.  Hard work is behind every success.  It is not possible to achieve success in anything quickly, be it business or anything else.  Must stick with hard work.  Don't be disappointed in the slightest.  Success requires patience.  People without patience do not succeed.  Suppose you are running a business where you unfortunately lose, then you don't leave the business!  Learn to keep up.  And new ways have to be found.  If you face a loss by investing in bitcoin, do you turn your face away from bitcoin!  Of course not, you have to explore. Learn more. Follow the previous successful people.  'Life is not a bed of roses' should be remembered.
You're right, investors who lack the habit of patient might likely not make it in their investment, but there are a lot of people out there who exhibit the habit of patient but yet they have refuse to learn from their mistakes, I think this is where the problem lies, making mistakes is normal everyone makes mistake but the ability to take correction and learn from your previous mistakes makes you a successful investor. Aside from bitcoin investment even in our daily life where everyone works hard to survive and become successful we need to learn from our mistakes, some will say work smartly, work in your comfort zone, don't settle for less, but all these features doesn't make everyone successful.
877  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 30, 2023, 02:44:19 PM
The retaliation was indeed real and Arsenal met him with a landslide victory without reply 6-0 to Lens, I thought this was more embarrassing, which might have a mental effect on the lens players with that many scores. The Gunners will definitely get high trust because it has slaughtered the Lens last night.

Unfortunately, Manchester United did not get the results expected by his fans because winning the 5th match against Galatasaray was their hope to be able to get second place in the group's position to enter the last 16 and because the Man United match 6th was marked against Bayern Munich who had the probability of his victory very victory Small, although last night was held to draw by Copenhagen with a score of 0-0.
Mikel Arteta and his troops must be really satisfied with the landslide victory they achieved against Lens. Because it was revenge for Arsenal's previous defeat when they competed in front of Lens supporters. And with this victory Arsenal have really paid for their defeat in the previous match. And of course with more cruel replies. 6 goals without reply would really be a nightmare for Lens. It seems that Lens are too confident because in the previous match they were able to win against Arsenal. They did not expect that they would experience such a painful defeat in that match.
And Arsenal is now in a safe position in Group B to qualify for the next stage.
I knew Arsenal will win Lens, I felt like Arsenal took it too personal and am happy for them, when I saw the introduction and the starting player I was scared cause of Kai Harvertz I wanted Trossard to start but unfortunately Harvertz scored the first goal, I love what Harvertz is doing although he has not been playing well but he has proven to Arteta and Arsenal fans he's worth it. I didn't believe Lens won Arsenal in the first leg because they didn't play with effort. Congratultions to Gunners for their qualification into the champions league.
878  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 29, 2023, 07:11:08 PM
Manchester United do look improved, but at the same time, they also have performances that are not predictable at all, or in other words, their consistency is still questionable. Galatasaray is a club that cannot be underestimated, especially when they can beat Mamnchester United in the first leg, it is a signal that they are still very likely to beat Manchester United again in their second meeting this time. Moreover, as you said, this will be a home match for Galatasaray, so they have an advantage over Manchester United.

Galatasaray's main advantage is that United only need a win today, so they won't be able to play purely defensively (as they have often done this season). The game will be very random, but due to the fact that United is forced to try to win at any cost, there is hope that this will not be such a dull game as basically all of their recent games (even successful ones).
The match has started, and Manchester United got a breath of fresh air after they were able to create 1 goal through a goal from Garnarcho in the 11th minute. Of course this advantage makes them more on top in this match. But Galatasaray tried to respond and they took control of the ball. Manchester United came under pressure, but with the goal they scored, the pressure was now on Galatarasay.
There is still a long way to go, and with time anything can happen.

And yes Bruno Fernandes has doubled the lead now 0-2 to Manchester United. They need to keep their concentration high.
Currently I am watching the match and I really enjoy the performance of Manchester United getting 2 scores faster even though Galatasaray should have had a penalty but it was disallowed and is currently scoring 1 score after Onana didn't seem to understand where the ball was going.
I'm worried after reading other people's opinions here if Galatasaray can beat Manchester United because we see that Galatasaray fans are very enthusiastic about their favorite club and this could reduce the confidence of Manchester United players but it is possible that Manchester United will still win.
Reasons why home game can be so influential, I till believe Manchester united will score another goal and will win this match, what a goal by Bruno Fernandes amazing. The issue of Onana is very big and different from other keepers and it seems he is improving, if care is not taken Manchester united will score another goal in addition to the three goals.
879  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Never gamble in front of your kids. on: November 29, 2023, 06:40:30 PM

Now, compare your behavior with your parents' different behavior. There must be differences, whether it's worse or better... the key point is the differences in your attitudes (between the child and the parent). Even though no one guarantees this possibility, gambling in front of kids is still not a positive idea. Don't you have a better goal than doing that in front of your child? There are plenty of other more beneficial activities, like putting together a puzzle or maybe assembling a bike.

At a start in the life of kids, they need to learn things that are positive first and when they get to certain age they socialize themselves into other things but by then they are already knowledgeable on the good ones and when they meet the other side, they know what choice to make, instead having the negative side as the only avenue to learning.

Some fathers gamble and smoke in the presence of the children and that gives the children the impression that it is okay to do that. I believe even in countries where gambling is legal, there is still age limit to start gambling so they don't need to learn it earlier than the age because they will tend to start gambling earlier when they have not mentally mature for it and can gamble away their school fees.

In addition, with today's technology where most people cannot be far from the gadgets they own so gambling advertises all over the internet and this also makes it easier for them to find out about gambling if they can already socialize with many people, also when they grow up they have the right to choose something that they think is good for themselves, even with gambling which is not a good thing they can just do it because they follow the current technological developments. They will also do it and try their luck because of curiosity, curiosity in adult children is very large, there are many things they want to know so they will do what they want.
With the development of technology at this time, gambling can be done by anyone regardless of age, unlike gambling in casinos which of course has rules against age limits, but online gambling does not require that, parental supervision of their children will disappear when they grow up because they will have their own thoughts and decide everything around them.
The more parents keep their gambling habit a secret the more  we hear stories like I started playing bet at an early age, so in conclusion some children who are into gambling today learnt it online, we can't protect and guard our kids forever and the use of cell phones are common now, every little child wants to own a cell phone, people nowadays no longer hide their gambling habit online they love showcasing their betting skill and any child that lacks proper home training can adopt the habit to gamble.
I don't know if this is common but anytime am with my phone and I enter any social app I will always see random videos  adverting betting platform, one thing with betting platform they have the best and smart move to advertise their platform even in skit videos I see comedians advertising betting platform.
So keeping our gambling life a secret from our kids that's not enough, but training them and setting a right example for them will be better, educating them about the consequence of playing bet just like what the op did.
880  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 29, 2023, 05:52:37 PM
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The match between Arsenal and Lance can be an interesting confrontation in the Champions League. The Gunners are approaching the game in good shape and in a great mood. My prediction for this match is a win for Arsenal. The Gunners have more experienced and talented players in their squad. Most likely in this game will be a confident victory for the English.
Yes Arsenal have everything it takes to win this match. They have all the advantages in their side, they are playing in front of their Fans and this will be a big motivation for them. Moreover they lost to this team when they went to their home during this first leg, so Arsenal has a score to settle with them. I'm predicting a 3:1 win for Arsenal.
I'm predicting Arsenal to win this match but I don't know the exert number of goals, I can't tell if Arsenal will score beyond 3, they're not improving in the goal aspect, Arsenal have every chance to win the match, the reason why they loss was as a result of poor starting, the key players did'nt start the match but second half, although the Arsenal players didn't put a lot of effort in that match. Let's watch out what Lens have to offer in the Emirate stadium.
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