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861  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lookig for the best crypto news source on: January 01, 2015, 02:45:21 PM
cryptocoinsnews.com has really been bought by a scam company: Gawminers.com / Zencloud.com

I would avoid them at all costs.
862  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 01, 2015, 02:34:16 PM
The scam is that Josh has millions of dollars in BTC and USD and tons of investors(So he says) but he can't make a $20 wall like he promised?
He hasn't invested anything into the market and I'm sure hes dumping some xpy because hes a greedy manipulative liar who has to pay all his employee's 6 figure incomes.
No idiot would work for a company that is clearly lying to people for profits, to bring home minimum wage.

Why is he begging on his forums for his followers not to dump? Why not stand behind your coin and buy them all up @ a promised rate of $20/each?

MAYBE ITS BECAUSE JOSH GARZA IS A SCAMMER and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, hes been tricking people out of their BTC since early 2014.

I hope Josh and his whole family/friends and anyone associated with running these scams go to jail.

Here is a complete list of individuals who are directly associated with this scam and the ones prior to this one:

Homero Josh Garza - Cult leader - CEO Gawminers
Jessica Garza - Josh's wife - Worked as a customer service agent for gawminers
Carlos Garza - Josh's Brother - He is somehow affiliated with gawminers.
Eric Capuano - Information Security Officer Gawminers - Previous owner of zencloud?
Amber Messer - Eric's Wife - Works as a customer service agent for gawminers
Joe Mordica - CTO Gawminers
Dan Pease - General Manager - Gawminers
Evan Lucas - Lead software Engineer - Gawminers - Zencloud
Ryan Mottley - Software Developer - Gawminers - Zencloud
Amanda Veilleux-Meara - Call Center Manager - Gawminers
Stuart Fraser - Partner at Cantor Fitzgerald LP - Josh's Piggy Bank
Alan Harmon - Purchasing Manager - Gawminers
Scott Fargo - Head of Mining News at CryptoCoinsNews - Paid by Gawminers to post shill articles to help trick individuals
Rami Abramov - Chief Marketing Officer - Gawminers
Bill St. Dennis - Role is unknown - Gawminers
Christian Gogol - Marketing and PR - Gawminers
Luke Rusten - Role is unknown - Gawminers
Jonah Dorman - New General Manager? - Gawminers
Reesie Garza (Amaris) - Customer Support Rep - Gawminers


Let it be known that these individuals have profited from scamming/lying to you and knowingly taken your money on false pretenses.

Everyone above gets paid every month and I'm sure they're all making 6 figures and that's directly from profiting from individuals who don't know their left from right and are suckered into joining a forum where paycoins are force fed down their throats with broken promises.

I wonder how anyone of these people sleep at night?
863  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 01, 2015, 12:39:47 PM
I have a complete week off all of next week and I'm going to investigate gaw from the ground up and I'm going to make an article with all the scamming information I find, I will also pay sites to publish my article.
If you know of any sites that will host it for free, let me know!
864  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: January 01, 2015, 12:26:15 PM
You shouldn't have to shill for a company.

If the company was legit and didn't promote any signs of being a scam/ponzi we wouldn't have this problem.

865  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 04:56:08 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

This guy is something else. He plants the seed then goes back and digs it up ! Unbelievable

This is the original:

https://archive.today/W3OTH#selection-845.0-851.51

We will buy your XPY for $20 each with NO verification and as soon as you open your account!

Then he sneaks back after having said that and edits it to gibberish so he can't be called on it:

We will manange XPY to the $20 each with NO verification, as soon as you open your account!

GAWCEO posted    , last edited by GAWCEO

https://archive.today/4kqa4

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled

SO JOSH, YOUR MOVE.

What a scammer
866  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 04:45:12 PM
I'm doing everyone a favor, I'm taking down everyone's information from paybase and reporting the USD amount in their account to the IRS with their first/last name and email address.
Most of the people can be found on facebook with their email and it states their state and first and last names.

Good job Josh.

Excellent idea, the IRS will move quicker to inform these victims before they become casualties of script kiddie blackmailers.

Thanks,
This is brought to you by Josh Garza:

Reporting all info and mailing it to:

Internal Revenue Service
Stop 31313
Fresno, CA 93888


P.S. Don't forget to file your taxes!
867  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 04:39:56 PM
I'm doing everyone a favor, I'm taking down everyone's information from paybase and reporting the USD amount in their account to the IRS with their first/last name and email address.
Most of the people can be found on facebook with their email and it states their state and first and last names.

Good job Josh.
868  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 04:32:36 PM
You mean like this one...  NOT my account... but visible.  (I've seen 5 other accounts when logged into my own account.)

http://prntscr.com/5mzony  or  http://cl.ly/image/0D121B3c1t2R

The security implications are far reaching, well beyond what the dunce Homero can comprehend

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The funds you deposit into your wallet are protected by
the same protection used by the CIA and all major banks

All you need to do now is contact this poor bastard arthur.chauvett44 {44 is more than likely the year the idiot was born in } fire of an email and say 'dude i know you got 50,000 USD stashed away, Ima report you to you're tax authority if you don't send me 10,000 USD in BTC today !!!!'

Is all it takes, no hack no nothing.

The handful I can see lead to their full names and addresses but not such a large sum as that poor guy.

Single biggest fuck up in the short life of crypto history the rank amateur meddling hands of this smug cunt Homero will bring the wrath of the authorities down on all crypto currencies. From the severest of privacy breach to ponzi to blatant scamming.  This punk needs to be shut down sooner rather than later.



If you delete your cookies and reload the page.. there is always a new user,
I'm gathering all the info and safe keeping it in-case anyone wants proof of the data leak and they want to sue Gawminers.
I will email you if I found your info due to Gaw's incompetence. If a company that holds millions of dollars of your money and wants to become a bank can't release one simplistic site without a huge data breach, I doubt they will succeed in anything else.
869  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Would anyone be down to get anonymous group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29

To investigate Gawminers and make all docs public to prevent more people from getting scammed?

Josh and his religious cult is making millions upon millions of dollars scamming people.
870  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 31, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
More friends have filed SEC and tips.fbi.gov reports on gawminers,
I hope everyone does the same.
871  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 03:26:19 PM
What would prevent Josh to dump some of his 10,000,000 coins on the exchanges to gather up enough BTC to pay off the dumpers on paybase @ $20/each ?

Isn't that illegal?
872  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 11:42:42 AM
You know that with everything Josh does.. he is gathering BTC by the thousands.
He was probably the one who dumped 2000 XPY to gather more BTC.

Do you guys know how much BTC he owns? Its insane!
If he is dumping the BTC he is the reason why BTC is doing so badly.

I hope the feds raid gawminers soon because this is getting out of hand.

Don't worry...
Unlike with Paycoin , whales can dump Bitcoin all they want and it can "absorb" it. BTC is certainly doing far better than paycoin2 at the momment -
PayCoin (XPY)  $ 12.09 (-12.35 %)


?? XPY = $13.10
    BTC = $308

One is dropping, the other isn't.

Don't compare your shitcoin to BTC.

Paycoin has a CEO without high school education.
Incompetent coders
A slut secretary who is married to one of the coders

And thats the gaw team.

I hope they all see life in prison.
873  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 30, 2014, 11:26:39 AM
You know that with everything Josh does.. he is gathering BTC by the thousands.
He was probably the one who dumped 2000 XPY to gather more BTC.

Do you guys know how much BTC he owns? Its insane!
If he is dumping the BTC he is the reason why BTC is doing so badly.

I hope the feds raid gawminers soon because this is getting out of hand.
874  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 05:56:04 PM
Could we somehow advertise Gawminers as a scam?

Could we crowdfund a advertising, could someone please make a blog with all their lies, you can easily host it on a anon site.

I'll pay for your blog to become first on google when you search Gawminers/paycoin/zencloud.

I'll say its a Christmas gift to cryptocurrency.
875  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 05:36:45 PM
WTF? From GAW-CEO at HT forums.

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Question: So 5.5 million of the 12.5 million will be minted in the POW phase. So I WANT at 1 million.

Answer: We had to reserve far more, almost double. We had a lot of large investors come in at the end. We extended the customer mining period. We also gave out coins to prime owners

And sadly from someone on the same thread.

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I have enough for myself, but my parents and my little sisters will be investing / buying about $2k each with a view to seeing their investment double in the next 12-18 months or so.

I feel sorry for the parents and little sisters he conned into investing in this windfall.


Thats it, I can't follow this thread anymore. I've read enough and I'm going to try to stay as far away from Gawminers as possible.
It bugs the shit out of me that I don't have enough funds/resources to shut them down and its going to eat me alive to watch the downfall of it all.
What he is doing on the forums and with his company is FRAUD. Gawminers makes us(Americans) look bad.


I wish you all the best of luck and have a Merry X-Mas
876  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 03:51:52 PM
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Hey everyone,

Before you all head off to relax this weekend, I wanted to share with you a new project we’re releasing that’s incredibly important to me. More so than most anything we’ve released.

This one is personal.

As many of you know, innovation is one of our highest values as a company. In fact, I was invited to give a speech about it at a Las Vegas conference this year. Innovation is so important to us that it’s right next to customer commitment as a priority. We’ve always stood by two mottos: “Always make the best decision for the customer you can afford to make” and “Never stop making things that matter”.

That isn’t just our philosophy, either. It’s good business. Every single one of you are witnesses to that. If you’re able to treat customers well and continue giving them things that are truly meaningful, then success no longer is an option. It’s an inevitability.

Running your business this way may be expensive in the short run. No one said it was easy. But over time, standing by these values every day builds up a massive title wave of loyalty and support that could no marketing agent or advertisement could ever reproduce.

Nothing replaces good business practices. Which brings me to today’s announcement...

I’m here to tell you that for the first time, we will NOT be innovating anything with this release.

You will.

Announcing the Paybase Build-a-Business Challenge.
The Paybase Challenge is all about challenging you to step up, take a risk, and start a venture. Not tomorrow. Not next week.

Right now.

The Paybase Challenge is an international competition, that invites thousands of entrepreneurs across the world to start a new business or significantly grow their existing one to compete for funding that will be awarded to the most worthy candidates.

How much funding are we talking about? Enough to matter. $500? A thousand? Ten thousand?

No.

The Paybase Challenge is giving out over $100,000!
That’s right. If you have an idea that can change the world, we want you to get the support you need to make that dream a reality.

The entire cash prize pool will be given out to over 50 companies who rise to the top.

The contest starts now and ends March 1st, 2015. Winners will be selected by a panel of expert judges with a proven track record for innovating and starting successful ventures. They will judge contestants on 3 criteria:

Innovation - How impactful is your company? Is it doing something important?
Community - How far has your message spread? How deep is your support?
Design - How beautiful is your website? Does your business look as good as it talks?
Paycoin Revenue - How much revenue can your company prove on Paycoin’s blockchain?

Those are the four criteria that thousands of startups will compete to showcase for.

But what about the best of the best?

The Grand Prize is...

$25,000 in funding, 1:1 coaching from the entire judge panel, international attention from investors, and placement on the paybase.com/challenge.

The grand prize is a package fit for a titan of industry. It’s the whole package – enough to take any earth-shattering idea and propel it to international status.

The prize breakdown is:



And to go into a little more detail, the grand prize is a complete transformative prize package that includes $25,000 of funding, personal coaching from the entire Paycoin Challenge judge panel, international attention from investors and media, and perminent recognition on paybase.com/challenge as the 2015 Paybase Challenge Grand Prize winners.

The grand prize will completely transform not one company, but two.

That’s right. Two.

Because...

We’re allowing Existing Companies to compete for a second Grand Prize!
We know many of you are eager to launch a new startup - but many of you already run your own businesses. You don’t want to miss out on the chance to compete on a world stage either.

That’s why we’re also giving a Grand Prize out for you. There’s one for new startups and one for existing small businesses. The only difference is existing companies will face tougher competition since they’re all competing for the grand prize and they will be judged largely for the work they do in innovation, community, design, and revenue during the event (Jan-March).

Doing this allows us to let everyone compete at the top on an even playing field, without new startups being displaced by companies with months or even years of a running start!

And if that weren’t enough. We’re throwing in more. On top of all that, at the end of the Challenge,

We will host a community vote to select three additional winners

Three hard-working companies will be voted by the community for greatest:
Style - The company with the best logo.
Impact - The company that gives the most back to the community.
Vision - The company that would make the biggest impact if it had Fortune 500 funding.

$2000 for each!

And guess what - companies CAN win multiple prizes. That means the even the grand prize winners can win the above as well!

The Paybase Challenge is going to give every single one of you the chance to show the world what you’re made of. Go out. Innovate. Change the world with something no one else has thought of.

And if you can’t think of anything that no one else has done before, then do something you’ve never done before. Step outside of your comfort zone and challenge yourself. Start a something new. Accept Paycoin. Expand crypto.

When you go out and start building your company, I want you to remember this.

Chase the vision, not the money.
The money will come later. It always does.

Don’t start your venture for greed. Don’t accept just Paycoin from your customers because you want as many coins as you can get.

Accept Paycoin because you know what the future holds. Accept Paycoin because you’re committed to making a difference. Accept Paycoin because you know that this journey has only just started.

Dig in, everyone. It’s time to get to work.

This is only the beginning!

Think about that when you decide what to do this weekend. I hope to see you in front of the judge panel in March : )

Good night, everyone.

Stake on!

Josh

THIS ISN'T GOOD!
877  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 02:59:20 PM
The thing is.. if Josh runs away will all the money while leaving everyone with nothing he is FUCKED.
He has to support it at $20/piece or he won't be able to walk outside anymore, he would have to move to a remote island.

Just how 'Jason' of PBMining is probably hiding whilst scared for his life.
878  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 02:32:16 PM
Why do hashtalkers want to 'kill us' and they call us trolls?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/22900/gaw-and-trolls/2

We are trying to help them by uncovering the truth and we are essentially re-insuring that their investment is actually safe.
Why do people on hashtalk care about what we say about gawminers?
879  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 02:28:33 PM
Well their TOS won't protect them from the LAW.
880  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 12, 2014, 02:23:53 PM
Didn't see anyone bring this up. I recently looked at zenportals ToS. https://zenminer.com/cloud/terms.html Here's what I found.

4. Certain Risks Associated with HashStakers
4.1 Risk of Regulatory Action. Cryptocurrencies have been the subject of regulatory scrutiny by various regulatory bodies, both in the United States and internationally. HashStakers could by impacted by one or more regulatory inquiries or actions, which could (i) impede or limit the Company’s ability to continue to provide the HashStakers, or (ii) prevent the distribution, sale or use of Paycoin. 

"If we get looked at by SEC, dont get mad if we cant pay you"

4.2 Risk of Theft. Hackers or other groups or organizations may attempt to steal Paycoins staked in Prime Controllers and HashStakers. To account for this risk, the Company has and will continue to implement comprehensive security precautions to safeguard Prime Controllers and HashStakers.

How kind of you! Isn't that why we are paying you to host our hardware in the first place?


4.3 Risk that Paycoin May Never be Completed or Released. Purchaser understands that, while the Company will make reasonable efforts to complete the Paycoin software, it is possible that an official completed version of Paycoin may not be released and there may never be an operational Paycoin, Prime Controller, or HashStaker.


WTF?? Really? Ponzi Complete. Commencing Exit Strategy.


4.4 Paycoins May Have No Value. Paycoin is a new cryptocurrency and its value is determined by supply and demand. At any point after its release, it is possible that the market price of a Paycoin may be zero. Because the value of Paycoin may be zero, the value of a stake, in Paycoins, from a HashStaker may also be zero.

Zero huh? What about 20$ and fiat reserves for the floor?


4.5 No Liquidity. Because HashStakers and Prime Controllers are staking wallets, the Paycoins deposited at a HashStaker address will be locked for a length of time, which may be up to 6 months. During the staking period, Purchaser will not have the ability to withdraw or transfer those Paycoins.



This to me is total crap! How can they be allowed to do this? Why don't they allow early withdrawl with a penalty or something?


4.6 Volatility. During a staking period, the market value of locked Paycoins may fluctuate dramatically. The value of the deposited Paycoins after the staking period may be less than the value of the Paycoins before they were deposited. 

Makes sense... yet this simple fact is not understood by the community @ HT.


4.7 No Guaranteed Return. Because proof-of-stake networks award new coins based on the size of a stake relative to other stakes, the Company cannot guarantee that the Prime Controller, and thus a HashStaker, will receive a portion of new Paycoins released during any staking period. Prime Controllers stake against other nodes. Third parties may control nodes that have much larger stakes than Prime Controllers and therefore receive a higher portion of new Paycoins.

Decided now was the time to remove "always profitable" ? Maybe this is proof they aren't a ponzi  Roll Eyes




TLDR; Very sketchy ToS that I dont think many people read but it gives us a glimpse of how GAW is currently being run

If that isn't the biggest red flag you've ever seen.. what is?
Someone should post this on hashtalk.
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