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8621  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Kupovina na veliko on: January 31, 2017, 03:07:24 PM
Znaci bio sam na sastanku

I sve lijepo, krasno
J.d.o.o najbolja solucija, 1000 kuna za osnivanje, 1055 mjesecni troskovi
Kad ono paf, student si?
Redovni? Da, zasto?
Nista od toga, redovni studenti ne mogu osnivati poduzeća  Huh
Ostao sam u šoku, navodno nema nacina da osnujem tvrtku

Googlah, i nađoh da navodno mogu ako kao direktora postavim nekoga tko nisam ja
Poslah mail, i nadam se da je istina, jer stvarno ne zelim da ideja propadne ili da gubim pravo na iksicu i da placam godinu kako bih bio izvanredni student

Ako je istina, ne znam zasto mi to tamo odmah nisu rekli  Roll Eyes

Jel si ti to u potrazi za direktorom?
Koliku daješ plaću? Smiley
8622  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Registrirani online posao/servis u RH on: January 30, 2017, 07:34:44 PM
Znam ta birokracija je prenapuhana.Preselio sam se iz Osijeka u Rijeku  te kad sam dosao u Rijeku samo za promjenu prebivalista izmisljaju treba neki papiri koji nisu trebali u Osijeku.Donesem im te oni kazu treba jos i ovo pa ko tu koga jebe pa nije Osijek Mars a Rijeka Jupiter koda smo u dvije strane drzave.Umjesto da kaze sve koje papire treba ,ma to sve u kaosu preko veze sa tim papirima vecinom rade ali opet ja cu registrirati u HR jer bi htio ovdje da placam porez a ne nekoj UK.Bice naporna ta birokracija ali ja cu da im samo gundam ako budu prespori i ima da mi sve kazu koji trebaju papiri a ne ko visibabe kazu sam da se rijese babe koja visi za vratom.Tako samo rade guzvu ali opet navikao sam se i podnjeti cu to da otvorim firmu u Hrvatskoj makar morao i 1000 papira da donesem po 5000 puta ali ako budu zaostajali oni bez razloga ima da im pisem prituzbe sam take u Zagreb da ce sv bit moje poslane,moci ce citati 10 godina.

Pogrešno si me shvatio.
Ti ćeš, i ako otvoriš firmu u uK, i dalje plaćati porez u Hrvatskoj, jer tu živiš:)
Dakle, svu svoju osobnu zaradu iz UK (plaća ili dividenda) prijavljivat ćeš poreznoj ovdje, u Hrvatskoj, i plaćati sve poreze.
U UK ćeš jedino plaćati corporativni porez za firmu.


Vidim da se ti dosta razumiješ u tu temu pa bi me zanimalo dali mi možeš objasniti što se događa
kad države imaju sklopljen ugovor o izbjegavanju dvostrukog oporezivanja. Neznam da li je to slučaj sa UK i HR ali recimo
ako se porez na dividenu plati vani zašto bi se trebao plaćati opet tu ako posotji takav međudržavni ugovor?!

Da li imaš nekog iskustva s time?!


Da, imam iskustva u tome, do sada sam otvorio već 2 firme u UK za potrebe svojih online businessa.
Trebaš razumjeti jednu stvar, da vlasnici firme mogu živjeti u jednoj državi, a firma može biti registrirana i poslovati u drugoj državi.
Ako postoji sporazum o izbjegavanju dvostrukog oporezivanja, što između UK i Hrvatske postoji, stvar je vrlo jednostavna.
Firma plaća svoj porez (corporate) tamo gdje je registrirana i ima poslovanje, dakle u mojem primjeru u UK.
Što se tiče osobnme zarade vlasnika firme (plaće i dividenda), tu je priča drugačija.
Kada bih bio rezident u UK, porez bi plaćao tamo.
S obzirom da sam rezident rH i tu živim, tada porez plaćam u Hrvatskoj, i to na svoju osobnu zaradu, ne zaradu firme.
Kada bih recimo malo živio u UK a malo u Hrvatskoj, tada bi se gledalo gdje sam živio tj. bio rezident minimalno 6 mjeseci plus 1 dan, i tada bih u toj zemlji bio porezni obveznik.

8623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: After death on: January 29, 2017, 01:21:59 PM
I believe that there is life after death and it is what they called "eternity", I believe in it. I don't know how to explain but as simple as I believe in God and it is what written in bible. But, according to some belief they  said that after death your soul  will live again in another body and they call it "reincarnation"

Your soul will return to your creator, God.
It's true that some souls are ''not ready yet'' to return to God and staying here, on earth, because of some ''unfinished'' business.
Such souls can influence earthly people, often in a bad way, and such people can act in a evil way, because of such spirits.
People wrongly believe that such phenomena means "reincarnation"  but in fact, we have earthy person with weak spiritual mind, competly dominated by the ''ghost''.
8624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think of Comunism? on: January 29, 2017, 01:17:25 PM
I lived in the communist country, so I can share something ''first hand''.
Communist had good intention, that all people should be equal and paid equal for their work.
Unfortunately, they couldn't understand that people will misuse it and try to cheat system, work less and expect the same reward.
Also, nobody had inspiration or will to work more, if salary will be the same.
Because of this logic, communism failed.
Capitalism is not perfect but at least respect people more.




Currently China is doing good and mixing communism with capitalism this is currently ideal for many countries and they are growing fastest in the world with access for all in every field

China mixed communist ideology and politics with free market ideology, basically capitalism.
It seems to work now but in the long term, free market and exchange of ideas and people will transform Chinese society.
Eventually, communist party in China will loose their political monopoly and power.
It will happen gradually, of course but it can't be prevented.

8625  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could bitcoin prevent crime? on: January 29, 2017, 01:08:49 PM
I don't think so.
In fact, even in my country, I already heard a few stories how criminals, drug dealers, used bitcoin for their crime.
They bought drugs from the dark web, with bitcoin and sold later in my country.
Bitcoin is decentralized, anonymous, so it's impossible to keep track of criminals.
So, in fact, bitcoin is perfect tool now for criminals.
8626  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: January 29, 2017, 12:58:58 PM
Investing in bitcoin is a clever decision now because very soon it's price and demand will increase as both are directly dependent on each other. So if you but bitcoin and hold got 6 months then also you could get $100 just by doing nothing but hold your $800. I think it's not a bad idea
However, the price will not always move based on our prediction, there are times that it falls back and we can lose our investment if we sell for a cheaper price. I guess it is all about spotting the right timing and now is the right timing since the price has risen and continuously rising.
Think that we will get to the $1,000 in the next few days, that should be your inspiration to your investment now.
The prices certainly always goes up although there are sometimes it will fall back. Therefore, you must be patient, be wise and learn how to control your emotion. Panic can slowly kill you from the inside. Try not to become a panic seller or a panic buyer. Read charts and analyze them wisely and you will earn profit from Bitcoin
Although the price of bitcoin is fluctuative but I was read some articles from great people's who said that the price of bitcoin will rise until more than 4500 $ in this year's probably tey were made analysis before . I hope it's will happen .


Well, it's true that price of bitcoin went high in the beginning of this year, but I don't think it's realistic that we will see price of bitcoin rise above $4500.
In the long term, 5-10 years, it's possible but not in such short period of time.
Before such scenario happen, bitcoin should become mainstream, globally accepted by merchants and customers.
It will not happen overnight.

8627  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Registrirani online posao/servis u RH on: January 29, 2017, 12:50:21 PM
Znam ta birokracija je prenapuhana.Preselio sam se iz Osijeka u Rijeku  te kad sam dosao u Rijeku samo za promjenu prebivalista izmisljaju treba neki papiri koji nisu trebali u Osijeku.Donesem im te oni kazu treba jos i ovo pa ko tu koga jebe pa nije Osijek Mars a Rijeka Jupiter koda smo u dvije strane drzave.Umjesto da kaze sve koje papire treba ,ma to sve u kaosu preko veze sa tim papirima vecinom rade ali opet ja cu registrirati u HR jer bi htio ovdje da placam porez a ne nekoj UK.Bice naporna ta birokracija ali ja cu da im samo gundam ako budu prespori i ima da mi sve kazu koji trebaju papiri a ne ko visibabe kazu sam da se rijese babe koja visi za vratom.Tako samo rade guzvu ali opet navikao sam se i podnjeti cu to da otvorim firmu u Hrvatskoj makar morao i 1000 papira da donesem po 5000 puta ali ako budu zaostajali oni bez razloga ima da im pisem prituzbe sam take u Zagreb da ce sv bit moje poslane,moci ce citati 10 godina.

Pogrešno si me shvatio.
Ti ćeš, i ako otvoriš firmu u uK, i dalje plaćati porez u Hrvatskoj, jer tu živiš:)
Dakle, svu svoju osobnu zaradu iz UK (plaća ili dividenda) prijavljivat ćeš poreznoj ovdje, u Hrvatskoj, i plaćati sve poreze.
U UK ćeš jedino plaćati corporativni porez za firmu.
8628  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez on: January 29, 2017, 12:46:46 PM
Daniel91 ali ako se bitcoin sredstva promjene u dolare pa onda u kune preko bitkonana te se onda prebaci na bankomat dali onda moram placati kakav porez npr. da isplatim samo 50 kn valjda nebi bio problem i nebi se placao porez jer bitkonan je domaca tvrtka iz Splita ili ako netko drugi isplacuje sa bitkonanom pare na bankomat neka mi hitno ovdje posta da li se placa porez ili ne jer ja nemam pojma o tome jer jedni kazu jedno a drugi drugo,50 kn valjda nije nikakav problem.Ja sam vec digao 50 kn na svoj bankovni racun te mi je bankar rekao da nema na to nikakvih poreza da iznad oko 10.000,00 kn godisnjih primanja se ne oporezuje to valjda isto ko i na placu ako prede limit se pocne tek oporezivati .Valjd nemoram sad to ici prijavljivati u poreznu ,ak neko dize sa bitkonana nek  mi se hitno javi.

Još jednom, za sva pitanja u svezi poreza trebao bi se obratiti onima koji se time službeno bave, tvom lokalnom poreznom uredu ili knjigovođi, a ne banci ili Internetu.
Po novom poreznom zakonu, od 1.1. 2017 banka apsolutno sve tvoje transakcije morati proslijediti poreznoj upravi na uvid.
Ukoliko ima bilo kakvih odstupanja ili neprijavljenih priljeva novca iz inozemstva, porezna će tražiti tvoje očitovanje i pozvati te na razgovor.
Za isplatu s bankomata je isto, ako se radi o kartici domaće banke, jer se sve takve transakcije također vide na tvom izvodu i banka ih šalje poreznom uredu.
Jedino ako imaš neku karticu koju nije izdala domaća banka, a ne radi se o nekom velikom iznosu, mislim da se ne moraš brinuti.
8629  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Registrirani online posao/servis u RH on: January 29, 2017, 12:11:45 PM
E dobro pitanje i mene je to zanimalo jer imam jako puno ideja i sve vise i vise novca kojeg zaradim preko interneta.Planiram prvo kupiti ideju od jedne osobe za 250$ i otvoriti firmu na kojoj ce moci svi zaraditi kada se registriraju na toj stranici,nekakav unique sistem ima za zaradu sa dobrom matematikom za siguran opstanak i da zarade i clanovi stranice i admin sajta,a ta osoba me naucila o svemu u online zaradi i vidi se da mu nije stalo samo do novca nego i da pomogne.Kad se pokrene ta firma koja ce biti kreirana od njegove ideje kasnije cu moci realizirati svoje ideje za koje treba veca kolicina novca ,a ta firma ce raditi dobar profit tako da ovaj topic mi super dode Cheesy.Zanima me sad jel bi ja morao da otvorim ptc-matrix sajt platiti registraciju firme 20.000,00 kn ili samo hosting,rekao mi je jedan frend koji samnom zaraduje zajedno i otvara firmu da  se placa puno manje sada 10 kn da moze biti najmanji kapital pa sada neznam tko je u pravu?

Ako govoriš o otvaranju tzv. jednostavnog d.o.o. u RH, budi svjestan da ti tih 10 kn nije jedini trošak.
Također moraš platiti troškopve u FINI, javnog bilježnika, sudski troškovi...
Moraš ići i u poreznu, još uvijek je, čini mi se, obvezan pečat pa ti je  to trošak...
U FINI moraš rezervirati ime, što je dosta kompliciran proces i može trajati tjedan, dva...
Ime se šalje na opdobrenje trgovačkom sudu i ima milijun razlpga zašto ga mogu odbiti Smiley
Ako će ime firme biti po imenu člana obitelji, obvezno je priložiti rodni list, ako će biti strana rije, obvezna je kopija iz rječnika stranih riječi, i još hrpa takvih gluposti.
Ukratko, sama registracija i otvaranje firme u Hrvatskoj uzet će ti puno živaca, vremena (računaj minimalno 2-3 tjedna( novaca) - oko 700 kn i više...
Ako će se raditi isključivo o Internet poslovanju, zašto jednostavno ne otvoriš firmu u UK?
Sve se radi online, ne moraš nigdje ići, sve je gotovo u sat, dva i sve dokumente firme dobiješ odmah na email i možeš početi s poslovanjem.
Trošak otvaranja je čak i manji nego u Hrvatskoj a firmu je puno jednostavnije voditi nego u Hrvatskoj.


8630  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez on: January 29, 2017, 12:04:27 PM
A sto vas toliko brine to dizanje na bankovni racun kad se bitcoin zarada ne oporezuje sta nije onda bolje koristiti bitkonan i na njemu trejdati,promeniti btc u dolare te onda povuci pare direktno na bankovni racun?Prije par mjeseci sam ovdje citao sad neznam u kojem tocno topicu da se na bitcoin kriptovalutu neplaca porez ako se nesto para online zaradi a sad se svi brinu?Dali je mozda uveden porez na bitcoin zaradu ili ga nisu uopce uveli ,molim nekoga za brz odgovor jer bi sad jos malo trebao da dizem bitcoine te ako se placa porez drzavi koliko se placa?Meni su u banki rekli da kad su godisnji prihodi iznad oko 10.000,00 kn nezz sad tocno koliko da se placa pa me totalno zbunio.

Za plaćanje poreza trebao bi se raspitati kod porezne službe ili knjigovodstvenog servisa, a ne preko Interneta ili u banci.
Naravno da se na bitcoin ne plaća nikakav porez jer po zakonu RH nigdje nije ni priznat kao novac ili financijska imovina.
Ovdje govorimo o slućajevima kada razmjeniš svoja bitcoin sredstva u neku ''čvrstu'' valutu kao dolari, eure... i to odlučiš podići tj. povući na svoj bankovni račun.
U tom slućaju, radi se o priljevu iz inozemstva, tzv. ''drugom dohotku'' koji si, preko joopd obrasca, dužan prijaviti poreznoj u roku od 8 dana.
Više o tome imaš u prethodnim postovima.
8631  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Kretanje cijene on: January 29, 2017, 11:57:41 AM
Meni  izgleda kao da ce sada cijena bitcoina sada rasti i to bas kak treba a ne malo gore pa opet nazad dolje kak se desava stalno ovih dana.Bitcoinu raste popularnost tako da je i za ocekivati da ce rasti i cijena sto se moze takoder vidjeti iz toga da sve vise i vise proizvoda i usluga se moze dobiti pomocu bitcoina.Taokoder ako Donald Trump donese zakone koji bi potaknuli bitcoin kriptovalutu na rast mogla bi cijena bitcoina doseci mozda cak i 2000$ nabrzaka,a ako Donald Trump donese zakon po kojem bi bitcoin bio ilegalan u USA onda bi mogla cijena bitcoina dosta pasti ali bi se pocela kasniije opet ubrzano dizati jer bi na crnom trzistu ga kupovali Amerikanci samo sumjnam da ce Trump ukinuti bitcoin u USA jer i njemu je stalo da svugdje ugrabi pare ,a ovo mu moze biti super prilika.

Ne mislim da zapravo itko može ''ukinuti'' ili zabraniti bitcoine.
Bitcoini postoje samo na Internetu i jedino bi se potpunim gašenjem Interneta bitcoini mogli zaustaviti.
Ovako, ako netko i pokuša nametnuti neka ograničenja protiv bitcoina, u Americi, ili bilo gdje drugdje, to može imat učinka samo na one amerikance koji trebaju ''real'' cash i žele razmjeniti bitcoine u dolare i povući na svoj račun.
Za one, koji samo drže bitcoine u svojim walletima, ili kupuju online s njima, trejdaju i sl. nikavog učinka ne bi bilo.
Iskreno, mislim da Trump sada ima puno važnijeg posla nego razmišljati obitcoinima (ukoliko je ikad i čuo za to, što sumnjam). Smiley
8632  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is science a religion? on: January 28, 2017, 10:45:25 PM
??Now I am smilled like never before hehe little confused science a religion?You are funny person really very funny.No science isnt a religion ,science is science I mean science is which scientists like and they are doing things to discover more things about our world and all universe because it can be really useful for all humans which are not humaneaters or from other civilization which dont have nothing with modern world.Religion is like example christianity,jewish,budism,islam but science can only proof us that something exist.Science is connected with religion because it show us how things from Bibilia exist and it gives us more gifts from God.

But when scientists guess about things, they have a theory.
When their theory is believed even though it is guesswork, they have a religion.
Science is a religion for those who believe science theory to be true.

Cool
When their theory is believed..It's not believed until it's been proven so..
So bang goes your theory about theory..

Look through the sites listed here https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html to see how many times the authors state that big bang theory is fact. It isn't just a few. Yet big bang is still a theory.

Cool

Of course that big bang is theory.
We can try to research creation but can't go beyond that.
We can't recreate time before creation, only creator can.
We are also created being, and only our creator, God, can answer all this questions to us.
But he already did, in Bible and other holy books Smiley

8633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What do you think of Comunism? on: January 28, 2017, 10:41:58 PM
I lived in the communist country, so I can share something ''first hand''.
Communist had good intention, that all people should be equal and paid equal for their work.
Unfortunately, they couldn't understand that people will misuse it and try to cheat system, work less and expect the same reward.
Also, nobody had inspiration or will to work more, if salary will be the same.
Because of this logic, communism failed.
Capitalism is not perfect but at least respect people more.



8634  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What were your experiences with Bitcoin when you first started? on: January 28, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
I couldn't understand concept of bitcoin in the beginning.
Because of it, I rejected offer from my friend.
I didn't think it's worth to invest anything in bitcoin.
When I heard from my friend, how much he earned with bitcoin, I decided to check it out more, in detail.
He suggested me to come here, in this forum, and it helped me to understand and start my journey here Smiley
8635  Other / Archival / Re: Earning "free" bitcoins on: January 28, 2017, 10:34:10 PM
This site is very useful site for poor customers because through this they earn money without any investment. Only spent some time .
Yes this site is useful and helpful for poor costumer but the payout is very low. Yes you can earnfree bitcoin by doing faucet. But you need you spend your time and electricity and the internet bill . your payout in faucet is very low compared to the other . I don't recommend faucet for everyone. Like me I spend I think 1 week but my payout is only 0.0007 only.

In my opinion faucets are mostly a loose of time, but i see that lots of users continues doing faucets, I have to think that for some countries this small amount of satoshis is an enough payment ( If not why are they loosing its time? ).

I agree with you.
When you translate value of satoshis to usd, for example, it's so little, worthless...
I don't see any reason to spend any time on it.
On this forum, if you like to write posts, and can write good content, the best way to earn some free bitcoins will be to join some signature campaign.
It's great to be paid for something you will do anyway.
8636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: War between US and China on: January 26, 2017, 03:13:40 PM
It's a complicated issue but it seems to me that a trade war between USA and China is not likely to be. Trump said that he wants to change big changes in trading consensus between two countries. Mass media deduced Trump's declarations as trade war. China exports are about one fifth to US market and on the other side China would let yuan to free float and US products will no longer be competitive. At the end both of them will lose more than they expected to gain.

Trump was talking about 40-50% import tariffs for china.
That is pretty extreme.

I totaly agree an economic and/military war between us and china would be bad for the whole world.

But now that trump started to make his promises true (re mexican wall, obamacare, abortion funding) there is definitely the chance he will stay to his words on the china issue.

I don't think so.
Trump said many things in his campaign but he already changed a lot.
Regarding China, we have to be aware that China is very important trade partner with America and that China owns a lot of American debt.
So, Trump have no choice but to negotiate with China.
I think that domestic issues are much more important for Trump now than foreign affairs.
Never believe everything what politician promise during campaign Smiley


8637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: After death on: January 26, 2017, 03:08:30 PM
No one really knows if life after death exist or not, but there's one thing for sure. As the post above said, " There were even experiments where human body was weighted before and after death and there were significant differences" is a great proof that something is going out of a person's body that we can't see when one dies. Maybe reincarnation is real, but there's a possibility that it isn't and there is another possibility we can't even think of that happens when someone dies.

I really think that science, soon or later, will be able to find out about spiritual world and what happen with our body after death.
We have many experience from people who died or was death for a short time, but recovered and come back (close to death experiences).
When you read all this testimonies, it's impossible to deny that we continue to live after our physical death (death of our body).
I think that God didn't created us to live only short time on the earth but to live eternally with him in Heaven.
8638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Reason Bitcoin will always be #1 on: January 26, 2017, 03:02:58 PM
Bitcoin is first virtual currency and Satoshi really started revolution with bitcoin.
Many people joined, even many online businesses and merchants accepts bitcoin now.
We are not mainstream yet but close to this point.
Bitcoin is really strong at the moment, with a lot users, online promotion, debit cards, bitcoin ATM, merchants, very well establish already etc.
I'm sure that we will be no 1 for a very long time, maybe even forever Smiley

8639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Easiest way to convert money into BTC? on: January 26, 2017, 02:59:10 PM
In my country, there are several Bitcoin ATMs. It is one of the easiest and hassle-free ways to convert fiat to BTC. But I have never used them, as the fees is too high (5% to 7% depending on the brand). I have made all of my Bitcoin purchases through Localbitcoins, making the payment through local bank transfer. The government can track this, and I am a bit worried.

The fees are really too high and that's already a good savings to my bank account but here in my country there is no bitcoin ATM at the moment. But most of my fellow countrymen are using virwox, localbitcoins and coinbase for buying bitcoins. Although most of them are good enough but the fees are really killing me.

Localbitcoins and Coinbase is OK. But VirWox? I remember purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox in 2012. First I had to purchase Second Life Linden Dollars using my credit card, and then use these Linden Dollars to purchase Bitcoins. In the end I paid around 20% premium. That was the first and last time I tried purchasing Bitcoins through VirWox.

I also used Virwox many times but not because I needed to buy Bitcoin.
In fact, I had to exchange some of my BTC funds to Paypal, in order to join some online business.
I didn't find better exchange service btc-pypal from Virwox.
As you know, it's not possible to directly exchange funds between Paypal and your btc wallet.
Their fees?
Yes, high but not 20 %, more between 10-12 % from my experience.
8640  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Kupovina na veliko on: January 26, 2017, 02:40:24 PM
[...]Jesi li razmišljao da firmu otvoriš vani ?!

Di jos vani? Vec smo registrovani u RH, u Nizozemskoj i na Gibraltaru (ajd Svicarsku necu jos ni spominovati...  Grin )

Jesi li razmišljao o otvaranju firme u UK?
Jednostavno otvaranje, u par sati, mali troškovi, sve online, nema dodatnih troškova ako je firma neaktivna ili nije počela s poslovanjem, prvi financijski izvještaji tek za godinu dana od otvaranja firme...
ako te zanima više informacija, možeš me pitati na pp.
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