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8661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Betting Tips Daily for Free on: June 19, 2020, 11:43:41 AM
There are bettors that do it professionally and make a living from it.

Making daily living with betting is not a good part, I will suggest to see betting as fun. I bet often, setting aside little amount of money or btc monthly for betting, but it is fun for me. I do not use the money that will affect me if I lose, instead I bet with the amount I am happy about. But thinking to earn daily, weekly or monthly living with it can create someone wrong mindset.
8662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: June 19, 2020, 11:30:38 AM
Tottenham vs Man Utd should be a really good game, I’m looking forward to watching that one. Norwich look doomed, they need to put several wins in a row together if they are to even stand a chance of staying up.

Tottenham vs Man United is the big game of today, it is likely that Man Utd will win the game, Man United has not lost there last five games while Tottenham won 3 and lost two in the last five home game. The otherwise may happen but it is highly likely that the game will not end up draw.
8663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best welcome bonus for you? on: June 19, 2020, 11:13:02 AM
First of all, I will make sure the site is old and legit.

$50 welcome bonus is good for me. But there are some that gives 100% bonus of up to 1 btc. That is good enough as well, I can deposit 0.002 btc to receive 0.004 btc.
8664  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin wallet summary at glace. on: June 18, 2020, 11:01:35 PM

While this is one way of doing it, I prefer to use QR codes where possible. Create unsigned transaction -> display QR code -> scan QR code with airgapped device -> sign transaction -> display QR code -> scan QR code with watch only wallet -> broadcast. This has the advantage of never having to plug removable media in to your cold storage device, and so preventing any possibility of malware being transferred to your cold storage device or your private keys being removed via the USB. It's an improbable vector of attack, sure, but it is still one which exists.

You are right about this, using QR code makes the whole process more safe and secure. Aside safety, QR code also makes it more convenient to use. This type of watch-only and cold storage on two electrum wallets would have not even been possible on phones if there is no alternative to USB stick. The QR code is a good replacement or alternative to USB stick.
8665  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase on: June 18, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
2. Paper back up
Seed phrase can be written on a sheet of paper with pencil, but this method is poor as it can be affected by liquid, but still good if you can save it in a place that no liquid can contact or touch it.
Maybe you have drafted this immediately I created this article, I have changed it even before the first person commented, I changed it from poor to good because writing seed phrase down is one of the best ways for seed phrase back up. Many people have commented and they did not see such an obbious mistake because I changed it even before first person commented.
8666  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase on: June 18, 2020, 04:18:24 PM
Home is both a safe and dangerous place to hide your stuff. Thefts coulld easily determine which is important or not if you hide it in safes and the like so it's actually just better to hide it in a nonconspicious way or just make a hidden compartment. Banks are the same, though the difference is mostly if the bank is robbed, then it's almost a guaranteed goodbye tbh. Plus the only way to avoid digital theft is to not use any digital device to store your seed phrase. Physical theft is unavoidable imo, and if you get hit, you get hit and that's that.


I see home as a safe place if properly planned, but only if the area is not prone to flood, earthquake, and other natural disaster as o_e_l_e_o said.
The likely questions that comes to my mind about the safety are:
How would the backup not exposed to liquids?
How would it not be affected by fire in case?

So, I think, getting it on little metal sheet is good and buried it in a safe place that is likely not to be affected by fire like bathroom. Burying itwo locations will make someone more secure about it.


Fire, flood, earthquake, natural disaster, etc., is going to hit them both equally.
In such this situation, I can try to also always memorize the seed phrase but will only just see it as an alternative when I can no longer access it in such these situations. But trusting on memorizing as a way of backup is totally wrong but just in case.


8667  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The 10 Best Crypto Exchanges - Which one do you use the most? on: June 18, 2020, 03:16:47 PM
some other exchanger is i dont know them but hitbtc i could only say that this exchanger is really a bad exchanger specially if you are a trader simply because, base on my experience you can’t trade if you tokens are les than tens.

I make use of Hitbit to trade, I do not get your point. If I have only one coin, I can trade with it. I have used these exchanges for months now and they are good. I see them as one of the best exchanges. My second exchange is binance, they did not support some coins I want to trade on the platform like digibyte, that was why I looked for another exchange that support more pairs. They are both good and with low trading fee. If talking about the withdrawal fee, hitbtc withdrawal fee are high, and not good at all.
8668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Download Odds and List of matches in .csv format (football or other sports) on: June 18, 2020, 03:03:28 PM
Especially machine learning algorithms are pretty darn good in predictions with proper training.

Machines are just machines, they will not be able to predict certain things about matches. In sports, strong teams do have lower odds and still won by teams that are strong. Even in trading, bots do predict wrongly in many situation. What did you thing prediction sites like soccervista are using, it will be boths as they predict over thousands of games daily, the predictions should be accurate most times but people using it to get still lose at long run. Bots are not better than humans to learn the in and out of betting. For example, a not can predict a match to favor stronger team but it will be you to know maybe their key players are not used or have injury.

8669  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casinos UI? on: June 18, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
Most dice games have identical design and features probably because they use the same platform that only has that kind of free template. I mean, no one wants to create from scratch just to create the same structure as every dice game.
Well for me, it doesn't matter as long as i can bet to my favorite esport and sports team it doesn't really matter.

I noticed this too but it supposed not to be like that, I do noticed that some will still make there gambling platform layout changed later in order to be different and unique completely from the upcoming ones. There are some that have very different site layout as well.

That said, what we should care about is the service rendered, if they have good customers care support, instant payment and non buggy platform, these are the most important part of online gambling sites.
8670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: June 18, 2020, 02:31:16 PM
Not only is Mancity the best but also the same arsenal but bad luck befalls them so that Mancity feels confident about the victory.

Arsenal has been lacking behind even before the pandemic, they need little changes. I have known Mancity will win yesterday game as they are the second best in EPL for now and because they are at home. But while talking about best, Liverpool is still the best. And this year League title is not for another EPL club but for Liverpool.
8671  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: June 18, 2020, 11:57:03 AM
I'm also thinking of a Valencia upset, but more because I'll breathe a little bit easier if Barca are at least 3 points away from Real, and not just 2 now. So yeah, a point for Valencia would be more than enough for me to smile. Atletico went riot last night, too bad didn't watch it.
In fact I want Real Madrid not to want to be left behind in the game tonight with Valencia at least being able to catch up with Barcelona by one point more.

But for me it will be a very easy victory where they are able to play with the best team like the initial match which is for Real Madrid.

With the look of things, Real Madrid will win today's march, Valencia has been so strong this season but at their home not away. Real Madrid has never lost this season at home and they will try their possible best to win Valencia which has lost 7 away matches out of 13 and drew 3.
So, I strongly support Real Madrid.
8672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: "NEW NORMAL" Betting on: June 18, 2020, 11:41:22 AM
The effects are currently been seen among countries and it will take longer than expected to get.back out normal life again.
I will talk about the effect on gambling, normally, gambling is still ongoing, I still play casino and other types of gambling. But aside one that I was missing before which is sport. I was unable to stake on sports games but now the season has continued. Even without the coronavirus vaccine yet not found, its effect on sports has also now reduced.
8673  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies Try Showing Appreciative Replies. on: June 18, 2020, 11:31:36 AM
This is good enough OP, thanks for creating topic in this, many newbies create posts today and don't bother to show some appreciations, it's like they aren't here for answers but just to create posts to rank up, it's pretty bad move, once you open a topic I expect you to reply back on people's comments

Some newbies are so like this but some are not, this forum is for asking question and contributing about bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. With what I have noticed, this forum is not about thanking but you can appreciate useful posts. If newbies contribute to this forum and post quality topics and replies, I think that is good enough. This forum requires newbies that are capable of contributing not thanking.
8674  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase on: June 18, 2020, 10:57:17 AM
I don't know about others but I do back up with a private email address that I dont use for any online things, just for backup seeds only and also I back up seeds by writing on steel just in case of email access lost.

Backups on private email can still lead to breaches, I will not suggest this as it is a poor method to back up seed phrase. I will suggest you to use the second method you said, writing the seed phrase on steel is better but should be in a place not accessible to people.
8675  Other / Meta / Re: Don't give up on the Noob you encounter on the forum, help them BUIDL. on: June 17, 2020, 10:50:37 PM
I even thought you were already a legendary until yesterday, and today you have become one of the legendary members, it is not a little work at all and I am glad for you to be one after series of quality posts and contributions. Congratulations.
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8677  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase on: June 17, 2020, 12:37:32 PM
What about using an old redundant mobile phone? If it doesn’t have a SIM card, you could store the seed phrase on that. The mobile will have a pin code and the phone can be locked away securely . Cheap and effective  Smiley Or am I being naive ?

This is not a good method because phone can lost or damage at any time. And it can be stolen, it is even hard to steal a metallic sheet and paper compared to phones.
8678  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Poll - How did you obtain your first BTC / satoshis? on: June 17, 2020, 12:22:17 PM
I was a novice then and I thought there could be big gain from faucets, not knowing they are all not profitable, I registered on cointiply and freebico and made just a single withdrawal on both and left both faucets.

As for mining, I have never earned on it before.

Let me just cut my story short, I have not earned from centralized exchanges before, I use binance and hitbtc and I am currently losing almost $50 on both sites. I do not think they should be listed at all.

You suppose to include signature and bounty campaigns, or forums and publishing sites.
8679  Other / Beginners & Help / Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase on: June 17, 2020, 12:00:41 PM
Introduction
I have been reading the best ways to backup seed phrase, seed phrase is very important to backup because it can recover back wallets or coins during wallet damage. Some wallet owners have lost their crypto wallets and coins stored on it because of their carelessness, because they did not back up the seed phrase, some people backup the seed phrase but the backup lost because of carelessness also and this result to lost of coins. So, that is why we need to talk about the excellent ways to back up seed phrase.

Methods of seed phrase backup
There are different ways to backup seed phrase, I will mention few.

1. Stamping the seed on metallic sheet
This is good as metallic sheets are not prone to liquids, it may even not be prone to fire, if properly stored in a safe place, it is one of the best ways to backup seed phrase.

2. Paper back up
Seed phrase can be written on a sheet of paper, this method is good also but it can be affected by liquid, but good if you can save it in a place that no liquid can contact or touch it.

3. USB plain text or on memory card
A USB method is good such as the idea of flash drive or the use of memory card but making sure the computer used during this process has no malware, this has been suggested below not to be an excellent way of backup. I may still edit this based on others opinions.

Backup against physical thefts
We should be careful of thieves and carelessness, for example, if you back up seed phrase on paper or stamped on a metallic sheet and safe it at home inside a safe, it can be easily stolen by thieves if thives visit the wallet owner. So, that is a good backup method but bad saving method. Also, some people can be so careless to put the seed phrase in a place that can be accessible by other people which can steal it. After the good method of backup, we should also consider it not to be physically pilfered.

Backup against digital thefts
Some people back up the seed phrase on phones, computers, email, google cloud or one cloud, this is not recommended at all in any way, paper, USB plain texts, or metal back up are the best.


Questions
1. To backup seed phrase on paper, metalic sheet or on card/flash drive and save it at home, is this excellent?
2. To back up seed phrase on paper, metalic sheet or on card/flash drive and save it in bank, is this excellent?
3. Which one is best to bury underground? Is it paper? Metal sheets or USB plain text?
4. More ways to avoid physical thefts
5. More ways to avoid digital thefts?

Let us have your take, to know the 100% excellent ways seed phrase can be safe for backup in a way to avoid both physical and digital theft and also in a way that it is 100% safe from damages.
 
Your opinions can help others



From maus0728: I like his comment below:
If you have some bucks to spare, try purchasing a metal bitcoin seed storage: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/
If you have some bucks to spare, try purchasing a metal bitcoin seed storage: https://jlopp.github.io/metal-bitcoin-storage-reviews/

Comment from o_e_l_e_o
Ensuring the computer has no malware is not enough. The computer should be a clean install of an OS, or even better a live OS such as Tails ran from a USB stick, and the computer should be permanently airgapped. Using an internet enabled computer which you think has no malware is a recipe for disaster.

Shamir's Secret Sharing is one of the good ways to backup the seed phrase, according to Wikipedia:
Shamir's Secret Sharing is an algorithm in cryptography created by Adi Shamir. It is a form of secret sharing, where a secret is divided into parts, giving each participant its own unique part https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamir%27s_Secret_Sharing

Using Shamir's Secret Sharing, the seed phrase can be divided into two in a way that each halve will be useless to hackers if seen. But using the common sense to separate the seed phrase, if one halve of it is known to hackers, it is possible to know the other halve of the phrase.

After using Shamir's Secret Sharing to divide the seed phrase, it can be replicated and the four can be stored in four locations. I will prefer it laminated or on metallic sheet and be buried in a safe place.
If you are going to make use a secret splitting method anyway, and you are going to make 4 shares, then you would probably be better off with a 3-of-4 arrangement, rather than a duplicated 2-of-2 arrangement, as it adds more security to your set up.

8680  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Paper wallets still good options on: June 17, 2020, 12:54:47 AM
This is simple, everyone has different opinions and different method about how to hold bitcoin, if I want to hold my bitcoin for long without tampering with it, then, paper wallet is good to use. But like you said, as hard as it is to compromize paper wallet is also as not easy to use, but using it is safe.
But for me, I will prefer to get hardware wallet instead of paper wallets which is easy and more convenient to use, the the fact still remain that my private keys is offline.
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