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8661  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: March 29, 2017, 02:10:33 AM
You are just stating the reality on what would commonly happen on playing gambling and its really true that we would definitely lose the money that we cant really afford to lose but this would happen on those persons who do really seek money out of gambling which is nearly impossible to happen because we do know that gambling make more loses than winnings.
8662  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin saving on: March 28, 2017, 01:40:25 PM
:)I've never heard about the challenge, but about the saving, what I do is to save 20% of all my BTC earnings through ICO investment and signature campaign, it is growing and I'm happy about the result so far
Since you are just a newbie then its just fine and this challenge is actually famous not only on online world but on real life experiences or situation you could really hear about this challenge which do really focus on saving up money or any other thing which is valuable 52weeks considered as 1 year.I do try to accept this challenge but its really hard specially when you are an active spender.
8663  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When you play Dice can you feel your heart in your throat? on: March 27, 2017, 01:37:23 PM
I don't know man every time I play dice or any game that you can lose fast or win fast just with a few clicks I can feel my heart tapping on my throat
loool, how about you?
almost every play on dice site i feel that, don't know what actually happen but maybe because i very afraid if lose in gambling
that is the common reasons because people fear to lost and indeed I also experienced the same thing too so i think it's human nature because as many people said that to get profit from playing dice depending on the luck of each person
maybe because i never luck, always see my friend win and when i try it i always lost. that is why i always feel nervous when gambling in casino or dice games, and always end with lost all my money
Seeing your friend winning on dice or a particular game will just add up the excitement you do have on trying out the game and its normal for gamblers do feel nervous specially to the beginners on playing because they arent too ready on the possible results that do might happen ahead.
8664  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is more risky? Skill-based gambling or trading? on: March 27, 2017, 12:55:02 PM
trading of course, still based game are very low in randomness because they are based more on skill, the chance that you win just by luck is very low, on the other hand trading is the opposite, the luck invovled is very high, and the long run success is still based on luck

Exactly, Trading can somehow be more predictable than gambling. Aside from that we could hold  our amounts and keep it safe fo r awhile until we were able to see the price that we wanted and trade it. However in gambling things are very far different even if it is a skill based game bias is very much more predictable than the real result

how could you say trading is predictable? If that really the case then many people who do trades must be reach from now? And i doesn't even see some situation that can make tradings a predictable area since their so many people yet losing some huge money from it. And also i can't compare both of the choices since they've got similarities on their own platforms.
I dont know why people could able to say that trading is predictable since its really impossible to know the price movement of each coin in the market.This is the thing why trading isnt an easy thing to do but still a good choice rather than on engaging to gambling they have both risk on losing money but in a different level depend on how you gonna handle it or done it.
8665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: March 27, 2017, 06:06:28 AM
I won't say that I'm shameful for being a gambler but what matters for most of the people here including me, is that we are shameful and afraid to be a loser. That's what is the most reliable and appropriate word to say in gambling. But when it comes for being a gambler, we shouldn't be ashamed on it because we know that luck is letting us win.
to me i also do not feel shame to play gambling, because i play gambling in a limit and with strategy and which really prevent me from losing such a big amount of money and for which i can feel shame, so i am really confident to play gambling without feeling any shame.

Everyone has their own limits and own strategies in order to win what they need to. It's also better to account what amount of money you can handle to lose so it won't be such an emotional threat to you.
Being ashame on playing gambling would matter if you do have past experience on it just like you lost almost everything you have and the people around you witnessed on what happen and on that situation you will get feel ashamed because of what happen on playing gambling but if you do play gambling for entertainment without compromising too much on what you have then its still okay and theres nothing to be ashamed of.
8666  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this man addicted to gambling? on: March 27, 2017, 04:59:38 AM
My close friend is 50 years old. He's never been addicted to anything throughout his life. His friend made a poker website and now he keeps playing there a lot. he also uses some free tickets to tournaments he gets from betcoin.ag signature campaign. He plays almost every day for a few hours. And he became more nervous in general. But he doesn't think he's addicted and his argument for that is that he can stop playing for a day or two (that's true) and he doesn't spend his own money on it at all. Would you call such a man addicted?
Hes confident enough to play on constant basis because he knows hes not using his own money to play gambling and he fully depends on his friend but the question is what if his friend would lost that gambling site?Then for sure he would not play anymore on free but he would need money to play poker and also if he play for longer period of time then possibilities of a gambling addict is very high and im sure hes already an addict.
8667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: March 26, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
I dont know how much lost or win. I guess my lost is more than win. Also lots of gamblers loses more than win i believe. This the rule of gambling. Bet 10 times win 2 or 3 times. You can win 10/10 with small odds. Its not win in my eyes. Win with big odds its my gambling rule. Minimum 10.00 odds. Bet ten times with 100k if one bet win it will roi. After 2 win it will be profit.
This is the reality on gambling on which there are lots of lossers than winners and comparing the ratio it does really have a huge gap and im one of those losers on gambling i didnt exactly know how much or exact money did i lose but im sure its more than on my winnings but still it just fine as long i entertain myself without compromising too much money.
8668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: March 26, 2017, 02:25:13 PM
i like the games but not the online version of it, it gets boring so fast when i play it online and it is a bit slow on these sites, they are usually designed badly or maybe it is just me and my weird expectations out of a gambling site.
I think you haven't tried video slots online, there are many casino which offer interactive video slot games you can try them. One of the site is on my signature, you can try them and i am quite sure you will love it.
I haven't tried video slot online, I don't really like slot game i already tried it on betcoin.ag and i don't really get it how i win on that i only understand when you match those picture came out randomly you will get price but if not you lose. That's why i really hate it.
Thinking off on slot its just really a basic stuff and yes we do really need just to pull that lever and wait for the result on matching those images.Winning on slots is very hard and we do know chances are very slim thats why most people do hate slots but there are still people do love to play slots and manage to win big just like my friend.
8669  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: March 26, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Trading is entirely different from gambling, in trading technical  and fundamental analysis  is considered most and in trading that requires candlesticks the knowledge in candlesticks pattern will in a long run helps to determine when to buy and when to sell. unlike gambling which is 50:50.
yes i am agree with you that there is such a big difference between gambling and trading. as trading is less risky than gambling, because in trading we have a little advantage to use our experience and skill. while in gambling you totally depend on our luck.
In most cases trading is really better than gambling but its not easy to do or learn on a short period of time but once you already got the idea or learning on trading then its really an advantage for you.There are gambling games which can be possibly learn like on sports betting but still i would stick on trading.
8670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 26, 2017, 01:18:58 PM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?

It's 100% gambling addiction, and if that's the case it wouldn't be so easy to surrender it because it may take due process of time. Or the other reason why keeps you coming back over and over is maybe it give satisfaction or fulfillment to the gamblers.

I agree this dude is totally addicted to gambling. 5.5+ BTC lost is a huge amount in my local currency and I cant even think about doing anything but crying if that would have happened to me.

I do not know what type of fun/fulfillment this gives once a person loses everything. Are you doing charity for the casinos? like seriously you should get a job and get a life and stop being addicted since its only going to kill you and your family in the long run.
When it's coming from an addiction, I'm pretty sure that is a huge one, when you are addicted all you want is just to gamble and have fun everybody but losing that big is not fun anymore. I never lose that kind of amount of money because that is not my range of betting, I would devastated if ever it will happen to me as I know anytime I could be addicted since I was once in the situation in the past.
For average person who does only have small amounts of bitcoin lets say 5-10 btc or more and then he gambled on that base bet then he is already aware on what would happen and his bitcoin is on the risk and addiction is really hard to control specially when you do lose a particular bet and with that you will surely do next is to chase and hope to win it back that's why you increased your bet until you got busted.If you only have that money then you will surely cry or regret but if you are a whale with hundred or thousands of bitcoin then it wouldn't matter at all but still the risk of bankrupt is always there.
8671  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io |social gambling game |Prov fair | 0.005 mBit faucet | New PVP game on: March 26, 2017, 12:33:46 PM
This game is a good gambling site. Ive played bitdouble.io and im completely happy because every time I play I always win. But Of course i take a safety measure in order to make my self win every time I play. 

Wow always win? Would you mind to share how much your profit on this site?
If you always win here then you should not play on other sites, just keep playing here and perhaps you can take all bitdouble's bankroll.

Maybe he placed 3 bets and win all 3 Smiley
Now serious: I don't think there is a strategy to win ... maybe just some small details (arround 5%) but the rest is just luck.
Agree, he might consider it as an "Always win" play if he just place a few bets and won all of it. Theres no really strategy on this kind of games which really needs luck.
All things for sure here on Bitdouble that this site is paying and legit no matter how big your winnings just like on the image posted above.
8672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: March 24, 2017, 10:31:05 AM
for me trading better because we did not lose all of our money when the value of coin down and in gambling we will lose all our money when losing also gambling has many risks
Overall trading is less risky in gambling.
In trading we can earn profit by analyzing the movements of the market and using some strategy that can help us in trading assets or coins.


Yes, trading is for the serious person who wana win by applying their mind. But on the other hand Gambling is Fun and you can win only by playing games at gambling. Smiley
Gambling can be serious too gambling is already a game why you need to make a fun of it?? Gambling needs an good strategy when you are playing not just to play and lose your money there. Trading can be minimize your lose trading is just for a week nor a month. Gambling can do everyday.
When gambling is a game why we need it everyday ? At the same time trading must be a way of earning then why we keep it for a week or month ? We must frequent the earning way than what we do just for entertainment. But in practical we are reversely doing as you are stating.

Gambling is just a game, then we must try to extract the maximum fun out of it. Trading could support us to lead a life, so we must do it with almost care and dedication to find it as an extra source for leading a comfortable life. Mixing these two or swapping one into another might take to disasters.
Mixing two things wont be a disaster if you do know how to control your self and putting up limits when talking on handling on your funds and i would rather focus up on trading since we do know this knowledge would be forever and could possibly use for a lifetime to support you as long you do know how to trade and make constant profits.
8673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 24, 2017, 08:33:07 AM
Well for me, experience does really matter and it's give you encouragement when you are gambling for a longer time. Because an experienced gambler knows what to do and he has a lot of strategies to do. As they know the consequences that they can't take but because they already went through with it, they know what to do.
If you have experience you will surely have the confidence to play gambling specially on sports and other card games since you already know on what to do but still skills and strategies wont still matter if luck isnt on your side because you will definitely lose no matter how skillful you are but still its good to have these knowledge after all.
8674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: March 24, 2017, 06:33:21 AM
Either there is a gambling or not, our family is really important to us, so why we should open a topic like this. quit gambling and think for our love ones? of course that's common. I always think of my love ones for their future and I don't play gambling too much.
I think you got it wrong . What he was trying to say is most of the gamblers are addicted to gambling spend money on gambling without realising that they have a family to look for. I have read stories that gamblers removed all their savings and put them in gambling and ended up losing everything and his family was starving.

Well, maybe for people who are addicted to heavy gambling, they never thought of his family again. I also have seen some people who spend what they have just to gamble. in fact, willing to quit his job. but, perhaps with the thought of the family, or the people he loves, maybe so, they begin to restrict themselves in gambling.

Not everyone who addicted to heavy gambling, never thought of their families those who are addicted on heavy gambling is rich that they don't mind about their loses or they don't mind about their money they all want is to relief stress hence , Those big man get profit also not just loosing their money on gambling they some of them are inspiration are families to focus on game.
That's true, I think Big people that has a power to use a lot if money in gambling they are the ones who spend more money in gambling unlike to us, or I, I don't have enough that money that I will spend in gambling because I am also thinking my family first before gambling.
Family is the first priority among all and i would really secure it first rather than on spending on gambling.If you saw that gambling does really affect your financial status then better to quit gambling for good and better to think on your families future.
8675  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DONT PLAY AT FORTUNE JACK!!!! I was ripped off. on: March 24, 2017, 05:38:35 AM
What honestly the error you receive you should do screenshot or video as a proof that you receive the error..
If you dont have a strong proof because sometimes in their system they can not read some issue. so better to make a screenshot when the error happens..  so that they can help you if you are just giving the history of your bet i think its useless

It is true. We can't argue that there was an error but without any proof. This site is quite old, and many people trusted them, but the only thing is they are quite slow in replying queries, but I don't think they will spoil their reputation for such a small amount. Since there is a max button and by mistake, you might have pressed.
Agree on what you have said FJ is already quiet old and been operating for long period and now this issue have come out and for op theres a max bet button and you cant tell us that theres none even you are saying your are on mobile.One thing does question on my mind,wheres the betting log of that last bet? Hoping for admin to clarify this things up.
8676  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: March 24, 2017, 04:42:49 AM
we are still gambling is because we still have passion in gambling and we still want to get the money and for the other people, they are having fun in gambling games no matter if they are loss. this is happen to me too and i think playing gambling is an interesting activity that i can get in my spare time.
Playing gambling game as a past time is the thing should people do treat this way and not aiming for money on playing it.Most people have different reasons on why they always play gambling some for entertainment and some for making money.For people who do continue on playing even they are losing then they might have gambling addiction.
8677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 24, 2017, 04:09:11 AM
Yes, I would continue gambling exactly as I gamble now, with the amount of money I'm afford to lose. Surely if money wouldn't be a problem for me I would gamble with high amounts of money instead of the few coins I gamble at this moment. It's nice to win money gambling, doesn't matter if you are playing to have profit or to have fun.

Then you'll lose every penny in your bank account in gambling even if on the time you said you will gamble more money. Gambling will be your problem and you status would change and you will lose that "money would not be a problem" situation you have. You have to consider saving your money first before you start wasting everything on gambling.
You would really lose up on those amounts that you had when you do play abusively on high amounts and we do all know money can be easily gone if you spend it unwisely specially on playing gambling those money would really deplete no matter what that's why we should not abuse it and instead using it on more important things than gambling.

As I said, I would continue playing the amount I'm afford to lose. The difference is that now the amount I'm afford to lose is low and if money wouldn't be a problem for me this amount would be much more money, a high amount of money. Nothing would change, gambling wouldn't be a problem for me and I would continue playing smart, with a maximum loss limit, so I can control myself this way.  Smiley
If all gamblers have the same perspective of yours then gambling world would be a lot better and broke people would lessen because of playing gambling.We all know if people have lots of money they are becoming confident on playing because they know they have money to spent on and not minding on other things already.
8678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 23, 2017, 03:44:12 PM
Sports Betting is the most fun method of betting from my experience. I've tried to play other games like virtual poker or other card games yet they just didn't appeal to me as easily as the sports betting does.
Betting with Bitcoin is fun as it is and it's more fun if I make a bunch of money on whatever it is that I put money in as well. I just want to make money passively while having fun so there shouldn't be any issues if I lose a match with a small little bit of money sitting in it.
It does depends on an individual on what kind of game would be appealing to them.Im n fan on playing sports betting instead I'm interested on some card games and dice and back to the topic 0.01 btc isn't a big amount to talk since its just really small to consider when we do play gambling but this amount will  enough on playing dice.
8679  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Arbitrage with bitcoins on: March 23, 2017, 02:19:51 PM
I don't like arbitrage betting because you need a large amount of btc to have some decent profits. There is a huge counterparty risk at the gambling sites if you were stuck at withdrawing your funds, you will find yourself losing a lot of money. I would rather trade altcoins then at least you can move your funds easily than at gambling sites which may raise some red flags in your account.
If you are doing arbitrage betting you would really need to have huge pockets so that you would able to feel the profits as you said and  risk of losing is always there.One problem will really cost you a lot if chances wouldn't be on your side.Talking about the site they are prohibiting these kind of betting which would really put you in trouble too.
8680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When did you start gambling? (Because of BCT Promotion?) on: March 23, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
I have been gambling for over 10 years now mainly on sports games as I never seem to have much luck playing at any casinos online or off line lol so I tend to stick with what works for me and that is sports betting. I just started late last year betting with crypto currencies more so with BTC and Doge and I'm glad I have as it has helped build up some of my crypto stacks.

Exceptional. You still can survive for 10 years in gambling ..?? , this is something that gives some the impression that pretty much in gambling. It is indeed a pretty lucrative gambling and provide the best thing is to do sports gambling, because by simply doing an approximate score or guess who wins can give you a great advantage. But all gambling should have good self control and not greedy in thinking about an advantage
 
10 years is already quiet a long engagement with gambling and its unbelievable for someone did survive been this for so long since he mentioned he doesn't much luck on playing such games and I think hes a rich person I guess because if a person doesn't have capability in means of money he cant sustain for too long.Its amazing though to hear that someone playing gambling for 10 years and counting.
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