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8681  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS █ █ █ █ LAUNCHED █ █ █ █ on: July 13, 2014, 09:12:15 PM
trying 2 different pools and none worked... just underground... #fail

HOW do you mine there with no wallet address??
8682  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS █ █ █ █ LAUNCHED █ █ █ █ on: July 13, 2014, 09:05:35 PM
Underground has 5 miners without a wallet, how do they have addresses???

i know right? xhash net's  launch is delayed not sure why
8683  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: July 12, 2014, 03:24:38 AM
I think my 1 block chain per city and a blockchain to facilitate trades between city currencies answers the scalability problem atleast well enough.

There are numerous problems with that, but I don't time to go off on that technical tangent right now. Apologies I know that isn't really fair, but sorry I must choose to be unfair with my time allocation at the moment.

Ultimately no blockchains scale well. Its just a product of their decentralized nature.

As an expert programmer I know to be very wary of over generalizing. Having studied some of the details of the solutions (e.g. see the mini-block chain posts and even the posts about orphan rate vs. block period I've made), I believe you are mistaken. But I can't concretely prove you are (yet).

But yes you are right i didn't address any criticisms you may have with i2p. How i would argue against that is to say that while you may be right, and even if i accept arguendo that you are, masking the ip address origin of a transaction is an entirely distinct problem and one with a much larger scope.

Obfuscating the IP address for all internet activities has a different set of technical parameters than obfuscating it for interacting with the crypto-currency network. For example, Tor and I2P require low-latency (which makes them susceptible to timing analysis), but crypto-currencies don't. I told them that in August 2013 and still nobody has acted.

Dude. what the fuck is your point? that this currency is not able to be untrackable by the fucking nsa? Da fuq - go copy it out and write your own coin mr. expert programmer. stop dumping on innovation you retard.

have a nice life, loser! Cheesy 
8684  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 12, 2014, 01:51:34 AM
Above post reminded me of something I meant to post earlier:

Apparently part of the proposed new Monero website will be a subsite which will allow for crowdfunding of dev projects, including setting bounties, voting on priorities and so forth. Sounds like the new platform which AnarchyStar is sponsoring to replace the BTC Foundation could be ideal for adaptation, cant remember the name of it right now but I'm pretty sure it was going to be opensourced?


EDIT - after a quick Google my powers of recall are immeasurably enhanced:

Reddit post announcing the winner = http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29n8o0/100000_bounty_winner_announcement/

Brief summary of main features to save busy ppl some reading:

Winner: Lighthouse (Mike Hearn)

    Crowdfunding platform, running completely on the Blockchain. Assurance contracts which send money back automatically if goals are not met.

    Will be able to fund Bitcoin core devs directly. They propose their schedule and goals, and they can set extra bonus features when they get extra funds (such as with Kickstarter).

    Will allow lobbyists to make proposals and be directly funded by the community, according to their capabilities

    Will allow many other community initiatives, such as supporting adoption in Africa by sponsoring ATMs, etc


yeah this was news last week in reddit/r/bitcoin. but.. what.. does it have to do with monero exactly, im missing that part, sorry. Smiley
8685  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 11, 2014, 11:16:33 PM
Hey dont follow the coin that much, but can somebody explain me why the price is down from 0.008 to 0.0028?

And will it go back up?

Thanks

Actual question is why the price was up from 0.0028 to 0.008 at Jun 22. Finding answer that, you win a prize.

Say about Monero your friends, donate dev team, don't mine, create a service for Monero, and you'll for sure price will go up.


Well actually its probably better if you do mine if you are intending on holding the coins, means less for the people who intend to mine&sell. Obviously that only works so far, if too many mine and hold then the price goes up and attracts more to mine&sell Smiley

For me, I'm able to mine a whopping .5 xmr a day using claymores miner and one  amd r9 270 card per day. I can only make about .78 USD per day or two on other sites. Or, maybe its because moneropool.com just rocks, I dunno, but I'm mining, sorry!
8686  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 11, 2014, 11:02:59 PM

Great post .. weird how so many newbie accounts post such in-depth articles these days.... /s
8687  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Cryptocurrency: Lighting the match for the digital revolution on: July 11, 2014, 11:01:16 PM
Heck, everything will become decentralized, even nation states will become obsolete ... it's called P2P with its globally scaled small group dynamics.

This ^^ + openbazaar! oh yeah, look out, it's gonna be cool down the road. digital currency is the future. and i'm banking on it. Smiley
8688  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 10, 2014, 01:51:36 AM
 If the state really wants to come down on our freedoms, it will, sorry.

Real life isnt a Hollywood movie with good cop ending. No it wont  if you are clever enough.

That being said i am sure Bitcoin is enough for your needs.

Using Bitcoin wanting to protect your stash from prying is a real pain because you have to take extra precautions and use other services, while with Monero you can just have one address and use different levels of mixing when sending transactions to match the level of privacy you would like to ensure, this is what bitcoin had to be since day one, but they got most of the people saying its a plus for accountability, and it really is and thats why I think bitcoin and monero will co-exist.
So let's say I get stinking rich with XMR next week, and move immediately to the Pacific coast of Mexico with the intention of sipping margaritas and watching whales from my beach hut with a chica at my side so hot I know it's only because I'm rich but I don't care because I'm just so stinking rich: will I have to wait for businesses to accept XMR directly before I can order refills (of the drinks, and possibly also the chica, if she misbehaves) online, or is there some way to tap into the already existing BTC marketplace while enjoying XMR anonymity?

good question lol, and in the scenario you get rich from XMR, it will for sure be accepted in lots of places so in the ideal world you trade services directly with xmr, otherwise you'll have to deal with xmr->btc or even xmr->btc->cash transactions.
And if the latter, will my XMR anonymity be preserved?

absolutely, no one will ever know the size of your original xmr stash, only possible to know is what was converted to btc and/or cash.
But that's amazing!  I'm in.  What are people waiting for?

This all depends (right now at least) what country you plan on cashing out on - for example, as a us citizen, i'd have to pay major capitol gains on taxes to explain how i got so rich and moved to mexico.

Right now, in this early stage, EVERY country has differnet btc rules/laws. you can't just say oh i can cash out my xmr tomorrow on whatever exchange and get rich anonymously. where is the brain behind that idea again? sorry, just being real, cuz this seems kinda out there to me, other than the protocol and design, but still it won't help you cash out btc in the uSA right now.. just sayin.... :\  

EDIT / TL;DR - i understand the whitepaper, i'm a nerd. what I don't understand is people assuming they can cash it all out on btc anonymously. thx!
Who said anything about cashing out?  Why would I want to do that?  I just don't want my sweet Juanita's gangster cousin Carlos to be able to trace my latest online purchase (for which I will be happy to pay all taxes, including capital gains) back to my XMR hoard. 

hahaha, nice! .. +1 brother! Smiley
8689  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 10, 2014, 01:47:37 AM
  If the state really wants to come down on our freedoms, it will, sorry.

Real life isnt a Hollywood movie with good cop ending. No it wont  if you are clever enough.

That being said i am sure Bitcoin is enough for your needs.

Using Bitcoin wanting to protect your stash from prying is a real pain because you have to take extra precautions and use other services, while with Monero you can just have one address and use different levels of mixing when sending transactions to match the level of privacy you would like to ensure, this is what bitcoin had to be since day one, but they got most of the people saying its a plus for accountability, and it really is and thats why I think bitcoin and monero will co-exist.
So let's say I get stinking rich with XMR next week, and move immediately to the Pacific coast of Mexico with the intention of sipping margaritas and watching whales from my beach hut with a chica at my side so hot I know it's only because I'm rich but I don't care because I'm just so stinking rich: will I have to wait for businesses to accept XMR directly before I can order refills (of the drinks, and possibly also the chica, if she misbehaves) online, or is there some way to tap into the already existing BTC marketplace while enjoying XMR anonymity?

good question lol, and in the scenario you get rich from XMR, it will for sure be accepted in lots of places so in the ideal world you trade services directly with xmr, otherwise you'll have to deal with xmr->btc or even xmr->btc->cash transactions.
And if the latter, will my XMR anonymity be preserved?

absolutely, no one will ever know the size of your original xmr stash, only possible to know is what was converted to btc and/or cash.
But that's amazing!  I'm in.  What are people waiting for?

people are crazy is all. xmr is so undervalued. i suppose it simply doesnt have a flashy advertisement campaign. i hope merit can overcome its lack of marketing.
Call me stupid, but I actually like the Monero website: no bullshit bling, just the facts, very easy to use, and the logo looks both serious and cool.

me too, i was just thinking that after checking it out again.... This coin has real potential, and i'm no shill, just an early investor! Smiley

(and i'm not pumping shit. i'm holding as i've said all along in this thread, and not buying more either to be honest, only cuz i'm fiat-poor atm... Cheesy  
8690  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 10, 2014, 01:24:23 AM
 If the state really wants to come down on our freedoms, it will, sorry.

Real life isnt a Hollywood movie with good cop ending. No it wont  if you are clever enough.

That being said i am sure Bitcoin is enough for your needs.

Using Bitcoin wanting to protect your stash from prying is a real pain because you have to take extra precautions and use other services, while with Monero you can just have one address and use different levels of mixing when sending transactions to match the level of privacy you would like to ensure, this is what bitcoin had to be since day one, but they got most of the people saying its a plus for accountability, and it really is and thats why I think bitcoin and monero will co-exist.
So let's say I get stinking rich with XMR next week, and move immediately to the Pacific coast of Mexico with the intention of sipping margaritas and watching whales from my beach hut with a chica at my side so hot I know it's only because I'm rich but I don't care because I'm just so stinking rich: will I have to wait for businesses to accept XMR directly before I can order refills (of the drinks, and possibly also the chica, if she misbehaves) online, or is there some way to tap into the already existing BTC marketplace while enjoying XMR anonymity?

good question lol, and in the scenario you get rich from XMR, it will for sure be accepted in lots of places so in the ideal world you trade services directly with xmr, otherwise you'll have to deal with xmr->btc or even xmr->btc->cash transactions.
And if the latter, will my XMR anonymity be preserved?

absolutely, no one will ever know the size of your original xmr stash, only possible to know is what was converted to btc and/or cash.
But that's amazing!  I'm in.  What are people waiting for?

This all depends (right now at least) what country you plan on cashing out on - for example, as a us citizen, i'd have to pay major capitol gains on taxes to explain how i got so rich and moved to mexico.

Right now, in this early stage, EVERY country has differnet btc rules/laws. you can't just say oh i can cash out my xmr tomorrow on whatever exchange and get rich anonymously. where is the brain behind that idea again? sorry, just being real, cuz this seems kinda out there to me, other than the protocol and design, but still it won't help you cash out btc in the uSA right now.. just sayin.... :\  

EDIT / TL;DR - i understand the whitepaper, i'm a nerd. what I don't understand is people assuming they can cash it all out on btc anonymously. thx!
8691  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 10:33:05 PM
only 2btc sold so far ?

2BTC? I saw 25 haha

This? BTC VOL24.60312223 BTC

yeah, it's not 2 lol..
8692  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 10:32:19 PM
why are people spending that much on this scam coin?

Again. Prove that this is a scam.

binksy sounds butthurt. sorry dude! Smiley
8693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
This thing is turning into a freakin disaster. The first hour panic buying  Huh followed by regret shown by 7k sells. I wouldn't be surprised to see this IPO selling in the 4ks tomorrow.
I swear, this whole scene has just run out of juice, it's hard to even find a convincing scam anymore.

Dev if you read this: if you expect this coin to do anything other than tank hard, you should double up on the coins people bought so they get them for 4k sats. Still too expensive, but maybe not fatally so. I think there's a fairly easy way to do it.
Just offering friendly advice, I wouldn't pay over 2k sats for this shit personally.

Someone didn't do the proper math somewhere, or ... someone did very good math to benefit themselves... call me a conspiracy theorist, but yeah, it's not looking good right now at all... 8k with that amount of volume is kinda dumb....  Undecided  edit / Disclaimer - i am not a mathematician, economist or wealthy investor. just a geek. Smiley
8694  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
LOL @ all the people trying to back out and already selling at a loss.  If you bought it, you owe it to the coin to at least ride it out.

LOL @ your last comment.. who are you, keeper of the all ze coinz? Hahahaha... sorry, but that' would make a fantastic sig, do you mind!? Cheesy
8695  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 10:18:20 PM
why is it disabled in Bittrex?
I see it enabled

just use the direct link -- https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ICB
8696  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 07:39:57 PM
Could that be the dev?  Or a friend of his?  Or someone at bittrex?

it could very well just be a trader looking to dump some after deciding they may have bought too much.... (reason - I've done that lol). Smiley
8697  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
RULE #1: Don't invest never money that you need.

dafuq  Huh

never money from never land maybe?  Grin
8698  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICB] IcebergCoin | FIRST NIST5 POW/POS | ICO AVAILABLE ON BITTREX NOW! on: July 08, 2014, 06:54:35 PM
got me some  Smiley

still don't get the hate if some people want to risk it let us, the important thing only risk what you can afford to lose

it's nice to be warned of possible scams but we don't need it on like 90% of the pages

What does that even mean, money you can afford to lose? who the hell is ok with losing money even if you don't need it to pay the rent or buy supper?
Get a new line, losing money sucks donkey balls period.

Well of course, losing money sucks, yes - what he means is you aren't going to make anything if you don't risk something.

If i have an extra hundred bucks to spend on whatever I want, and instead i drop it down a sewer, will i ball my eyes out? f-no... lol.. i move on, and so does life! Smiley

8699  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 07, 2014, 12:40:33 AM

Reason is because Monero doesnt have an official GUI yet. There are GUI wallets you can use, but they're not the "official"  monero gui wallet.


I seriously doubt that. I think it's already priced in. People are not so dumb to value the currency completely differently if there is "official" on the name of the GUI or not.
To me it's like mintpal, everybody was like "it will skyrocket", but in fact this was completely integrated in the price already.


You overestimate how dumb people are.

Any sort of news can send a coin skyrocketing or crashing in the world of cryptocoins... incase you haven't noticed.

absolutely. if a full qt based wallet came out that wasnt' bug ridden, this coin would probably take off big, but thats just speculation of course. i do understand and fully back the technology behind it either way - this is NOT a btc clone, it's completely new and amazing! .. so i'm hodl'ing. Smiley

8700  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - Now on Hitbtc.com on: July 06, 2014, 11:38:08 PM
Wow, so lame! I am pretty much thinking at this point that the "dev team" is not capable of progressing much on this. Four weeks and still analyzing the white paper?! WTF.
No major progress in the last two weeks? This is sick.

You are more than welcome to contribute your coding skills. Otherwise, STFU and/or GTFO. Moron!  /sorry, but so sick of morons here lol. :\
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