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8701  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 02:33:55 PM
@Melt_Dem 21h21 hours ago

segwit2x delayed until 2018


still nothing from DCG except the tea-girl
8702  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 02:10:09 PM

keeping up with the garzicks
8703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 01:55:52 PM
8704  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 10:46:07 AM
Ms Kaminska writing lovely things about the Honey Badger as usual

https://www.ft.com/content/c166aa1e-c303-11e7-a1d2-6786f39ef675

Quote
And even if all that were possible, none of it changes the fact that if bitcoin’s primary use is for speculation rather than transaction, the energy wastage serves very little constructive social purpose at all.


energy wastage is heating my house, my mistresses' houses, the office ...

energy from Chinese, Siberian, Canuck dams would be wasted if not used for mining

that girl needs a good somethinging
8705  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 10:37:16 AM
With CME going live in less than a week, alts better watch their game. This may still be a premature rotation...

Im slightly confused on how CME will affect the price of bitcoin as there is no actual bitcoin bought in their trades and people using CME are basically just betting on the future price. Or have i got it totally wrong?

so are they
so is erryone
8706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 10:36:30 AM
Why are B2X futures still trading and rising in value Huh?? https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/segwit2x/
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20171108/#441

<davout>  logic is that on some platform that offered "prefork coin splitting" the prefork-SW2X-coinz are needed to merge with the prefork-actual-bitcoin in order to have a prefork-full-bitcoin

people buying them do so in order to be able to withdraw from platforms immediately without waiting for the contract expiration on nov. 16th

therefore, nonzero value

will converge to perceived risk pricing of leaving buttcoin on a platform until contract expiration
8707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] *Aborted* Bitcoin Resilience: Cuckoo Cycle PoW Bitcoin Hardfork on: November 09, 2017, 09:44:20 AM
ugh Slack noty
a bit more openness right here pls - no nyms
c u next time
8708  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 09:26:53 AM
So, farewell, Jeff.
Which developer will they burn with their next attack?
They could hoik Vitalik 'back into bitcoin' to 'make it better'.
8709  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 09, 2017, 08:56:34 AM
8710  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 10:32:48 PM


in this moment ... I am serene
8711  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 08:30:30 PM
We can celebrate, but let's not gloat guys.

I, for one, praise the S2X camp for achieving the internal consensus to pull back from the brink.

We will eventually, in a safe and orderly manner, address their concerns regarding scaling.

In the end, they behaved like rational adults.  Perhaps we can have nice things.

Well you're a very nice guy.

On the other hand I will never trust any of these guys.

They proved they are anti-bitcoin when they didn't back down months ago.

These deceitful cowards will be back for your nice things.

8712  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 12:23:14 PM
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-41904102
Paradise Papers: Why offshore business is turned down
sloppy BBC is sloppy. history!=news

If anything, Panama Papers and Paradise Papers show that linking BTC with terrorism funding and drug trade are pure FUD.  The elites moved $10 trillions+ and hide them around the world with FIAT and all are done "legally" within the legal framework.

That being said, I still have nothing but the highest respect for the Sassoon family.  Being able to survive the Spanish Inquisition and Ottoman rule, made a fortune in Opium Wars, and still retain their peerage and fortune in the British upper crust, this is nothing short of a miracle.   I am sure that Baron Sassoon, being the previous head of G7 task force on Money Laundering, would not have done anything untoward.

lol. lovely restraint.

8713  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 10:20:39 AM
Randomly introducing myself. Hi. Been following this thread for a few days now. Fun.

hai. welcome. pull up a chair



you'll find we're all very friendly here
8714  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 10:03:16 AM


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-41904102
Paradise Papers: Why offshore business is turned down
sloppy BBC is sloppy. history!=news
8715  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 08:28:10 AM



You might wanna look into what Jeff has done for the wider computing community -- gratis, and predating the existence of satoshi's whitepaper -- before you start slinging shit at his reputation or motivations.

F'ing lousy ingrates. Get some perspective.

No you get some perspective. What he may have done before is not relevant to what he and you both are attempting now - attacking bitcoin.
8716  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 08, 2017, 08:19:27 AM
meh
confirmed



23:36:02 luke-jr: thoughts on PoW change?

23:36:25 asciilifeform: go, change, whatchawaitingfor

http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-11-2017#1477814

luke floats cobra bitcoin again, gets a warm welcome (on the wrong channel)

8717  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2017, 10:36:46 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/cme-groups-leo-melamed-well-tame-bitcoin/
"We will regulate, make bitcoin not wild, nor wilder. We'll tame it into a regular type instrument of trade with rules."
Disclosure: CME Group is an investor in Digital Currency Group, CoinDesk's parent company.
someone's gonna get rekt

I'm going to need stronger popcorn

They've released the specs for their futures
http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/bitcoin-futures.html
... Special price fluctuation limits equal to 7% above and below prior settlement price and 13% above and below prior settlement price and a price limit of 20% above or below the previous settlement price. Trading will not be permitted outside the 20% above and below prior settlement price. ...

8718  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2017, 09:13:07 PM
    What is a transaction replay?

In the context of forks, transaction replay is when a transaction is valid on both sides of the fork. So a transaction can be played (i.e. broadcast) on both chains after the fork and be a valid transaction and confirm. This means that if you intend on sending coins on one fork, you could accidentally end up sending your coins on the other fork as well since someone else could take your transaction and replay it (i.e. broadcast it) on the other chain's network.

    What does replay protection do?

Replay protection is something that makes it so that transactions on one chain are invalid on the other chain thus preventing transaction replay. This can be anything from having a blacklisted address or output type (e.g. if an output to address X is in the transaction, consider it invalid) to changing the signature scheme to changing the transaction format entirely. All this does it makes replaying some or all transactions impossible.
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/61212/what-is-transaction-replay-and-replay-protection

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/segwit2x-and-case-strong-replay-protection-and-why-its-controversial/
8719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2017, 08:48:08 PM
I'm going to need stronger popcorn
lol. quite the show it'll be.
https://youtu.be/kBxnl5nZbr0 Popcaan - Stronger Now
couldn't resist. actually it's q jolly.
8720  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 07, 2017, 08:14:09 PM
https://www.coindesk.com/cme-groups-leo-melamed-well-tame-bitcoin/
"We will regulate, make bitcoin not wild, nor wilder. We'll tame it into a regular type instrument of trade with rules."
Disclosure: CME Group is an investor in Digital Currency Group, CoinDesk's parent company.
someone's gonna get rekt
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