No there is no excuse for KNC did to Neptune customers who decided to opt for the early 3TH/s miners.  This is company who openly bragged about closing in on 100million USD in sales by June of this year who is running a datorhall that was raking in 450k USD per day in early spring this year.  They could afford to do better and chose otherwise.

 After seeing the specs on the shipped Neptunes, I am sure you will make out better than the Neptune customers.  You got a lucky break, many customers just got broken crap they have to RMA.

 No but you did say you were "quite satisfied" with your SuperJupe.  Thought you might be interested in bittawm's.  There aren't better options to get 3TH by Monday.

 Because they're so used to feeding us crap as facts that they don't even care to proof-read their cut-and-paste lies anymore.  Classic.

On a scale of 4 to 0.2 I'd have to say...



 The return of multiple IPO price was a long time ago and was fuelled by speculation.  Sure we got some dividends but we don't mine anymore.  Now we rely on outside expertise to make our chips into something useable.  Yeah all I can see are bulls and roses.

 I accept that but I am still hopeful that one day there will be a company with the integrity to do what they say they'll do.

 "We will also be releasing a full guide on how to use the miners both with the WebGUI and without it before shipment (which will begin somewhere from the 15th-31st of July)"

Says Alpha.

 You should try selling it to xstr8guy for what you paid for it.  He'll probably jump on a deal like that.

 And you are experiencing retrospective rationalization.  Why DONT you feel screwed?
 

 Well Jimmy, as I explained, I believe they were well aware of what they did in planting the seed in our minds about March.  What did that mean to you?  Nothing?  Why did they state it?  Most normal people make statements to communicate their thoughts and intentions.  Q1/Q2 actually means January, February, March, April, May, June and while I probably don't have to explain this to you, March means March.
"New generation of devices" means Neptune.  Neptune being the name they gave to their next generation device.
 The difference here is that I was trying to predict the future of events based on the information I was able to garner from KNCminer in order to make an investment decision while you are able to see this event as having been predictable despite there being little if any objective basis for its occurrence.  Which is probably why you say Q1/Q2 means "some time before July" and statements made one year ago are invalid since they don't fit your perception of what transpired while congratulating yourself for doing nothing and staying safe.

 So, when March came and went, I requested a refund.  KNCminer had said I could have a refund "right up until shipment".  I have not received the refund yet nor have I received a delivery and yet they are shipping.  Does this mean I am no longer entitled to my refund?  Do statements about refunds made 6 months ago still apply?! Can you give me your analysis of this situation or would you prefer to wait until I do or don't get a refund to offer up your special brand of creeping determinism?  Please don't leaving me hanging until AFTER something happens...
 




 

 They said MARCH! Then they said Q1/Q2 - in this way, people were certain to order @ $12,995 USD.
"We will ship no devices in December 2013, January 2014 or  February 2014. Meaning that once we have taken the difficulty up at the end of November we will not release any more hashing power for 3 months. We will then release our new generation of devices, which will begin shipping in March 2014. These devices will also have a much higher GH/$ rating than any of our current offerings."

 If they had actually said "June", they wouldn't have sold ANY!
 

 Yeah, you HOPE!

 Stock market returns are leading indicators.  Thankfully, they are not always accurate.  Let's hope they are not accurate in the case of Asicminer shares.

 Ideally, we could pretend we are exploring for our respective countries.  We can bring with us all of our disease, prejudices and laws just to get started when we find the right place.  We can even get our standing armies to help clear a place for us and once the money starts rolling in, we tell them - "Hey, we've had enough of you and your system of taxation!" and well declare independence.  Then, we'll tax the heck out of our population of investors... oh wait, if they get wind of that, they'll never invest!

 It's interesting but also as wrong-headed as Ayn's original diatribe.  Money has never been considered evil, it was the LOVE of MONEY that was and is the root of all evil.  I read Atlas Shrugged but it put me off reading for a long time.  Thanks Ayn!

 Yeah and well want it to be someplace warm with a nice view.

 That's a good idea.  I could make millions of inane laws to enforce as well.  This is going to be lucrative!  Anyone wanting in on my IPO, I'll be listing with Havalock next week.  First thousand buyers get to create an absurd law and become honorary deputies.  30% of the take goes back into creating a larger system whereby we raid other countries and push our laws on those unsuspecting "criminals" as well. The reminder will be paid back in dividends.  Oh and by the way unregistered securities are illegal in this system... just so you know

 So they make money by busting as many people as possible.  Great system!  How do I get in on that action?

 Is this a meme I have missed out on?  Is it something like pwned?

 Actually, with the national debt at 17.5 trillion dollars, those bitcoins even at 1 million dollars each would pay only 0.17% of the debt.... not even close to a few percent.   Why does the US marshals office get the proceeds from these anyway?!  If anything they should donate them to charities.