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8781  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel shameful for being a gambler? on: March 27, 2017, 06:06:28 AM
I won't say that I'm shameful for being a gambler but what matters for most of the people here including me, is that we are shameful and afraid to be a loser. That's what is the most reliable and appropriate word to say in gambling. But when it comes for being a gambler, we shouldn't be ashamed on it because we know that luck is letting us win.
to me i also do not feel shame to play gambling, because i play gambling in a limit and with strategy and which really prevent me from losing such a big amount of money and for which i can feel shame, so i am really confident to play gambling without feeling any shame.

Everyone has their own limits and own strategies in order to win what they need to. It's also better to account what amount of money you can handle to lose so it won't be such an emotional threat to you.
Being ashame on playing gambling would matter if you do have past experience on it just like you lost almost everything you have and the people around you witnessed on what happen and on that situation you will get feel ashamed because of what happen on playing gambling but if you do play gambling for entertainment without compromising too much on what you have then its still okay and theres nothing to be ashamed of.
8782  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this man addicted to gambling? on: March 27, 2017, 04:59:38 AM
My close friend is 50 years old. He's never been addicted to anything throughout his life. His friend made a poker website and now he keeps playing there a lot. he also uses some free tickets to tournaments he gets from betcoin.ag signature campaign. He plays almost every day for a few hours. And he became more nervous in general. But he doesn't think he's addicted and his argument for that is that he can stop playing for a day or two (that's true) and he doesn't spend his own money on it at all. Would you call such a man addicted?
Hes confident enough to play on constant basis because he knows hes not using his own money to play gambling and he fully depends on his friend but the question is what if his friend would lost that gambling site?Then for sure he would not play anymore on free but he would need money to play poker and also if he play for longer period of time then possibilities of a gambling addict is very high and im sure hes already an addict.
8783  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling loses and wins on: March 26, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
I dont know how much lost or win. I guess my lost is more than win. Also lots of gamblers loses more than win i believe. This the rule of gambling. Bet 10 times win 2 or 3 times. You can win 10/10 with small odds. Its not win in my eyes. Win with big odds its my gambling rule. Minimum 10.00 odds. Bet ten times with 100k if one bet win it will roi. After 2 win it will be profit.
This is the reality on gambling on which there are lots of lossers than winners and comparing the ratio it does really have a huge gap and im one of those losers on gambling i didnt exactly know how much or exact money did i lose but im sure its more than on my winnings but still it just fine as long i entertain myself without compromising too much money.
8784  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: March 26, 2017, 02:25:13 PM
i like the games but not the online version of it, it gets boring so fast when i play it online and it is a bit slow on these sites, they are usually designed badly or maybe it is just me and my weird expectations out of a gambling site.
I think you haven't tried video slots online, there are many casino which offer interactive video slot games you can try them. One of the site is on my signature, you can try them and i am quite sure you will love it.
I haven't tried video slot online, I don't really like slot game i already tried it on betcoin.ag and i don't really get it how i win on that i only understand when you match those picture came out randomly you will get price but if not you lose. That's why i really hate it.
Thinking off on slot its just really a basic stuff and yes we do really need just to pull that lever and wait for the result on matching those images.Winning on slots is very hard and we do know chances are very slim thats why most people do hate slots but there are still people do love to play slots and manage to win big just like my friend.
8785  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How is trading *not* gambling? on: March 26, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Trading is entirely different from gambling, in trading technical  and fundamental analysis  is considered most and in trading that requires candlesticks the knowledge in candlesticks pattern will in a long run helps to determine when to buy and when to sell. unlike gambling which is 50:50.
yes i am agree with you that there is such a big difference between gambling and trading. as trading is less risky than gambling, because in trading we have a little advantage to use our experience and skill. while in gambling you totally depend on our luck.
In most cases trading is really better than gambling but its not easy to do or learn on a short period of time but once you already got the idea or learning on trading then its really an advantage for you.There are gambling games which can be possibly learn like on sports betting but still i would stick on trading.
8786  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: March 26, 2017, 01:18:58 PM
I do not gamble to much but it always seems that when I do, I take the loss big time.  For example, I have lost over 3 BTC in the BustaBit game online.  It is fun and I like to play but I always get greedy with it.  I have won about 2.2 BTC back, but I lost more than what I have won.  For some odd reason, I keep coming back over and over.  I do not know why I do it, why do you?

It's 100% gambling addiction, and if that's the case it wouldn't be so easy to surrender it because it may take due process of time. Or the other reason why keeps you coming back over and over is maybe it give satisfaction or fulfillment to the gamblers.

I agree this dude is totally addicted to gambling. 5.5+ BTC lost is a huge amount in my local currency and I cant even think about doing anything but crying if that would have happened to me.

I do not know what type of fun/fulfillment this gives once a person loses everything. Are you doing charity for the casinos? like seriously you should get a job and get a life and stop being addicted since its only going to kill you and your family in the long run.
When it's coming from an addiction, I'm pretty sure that is a huge one, when you are addicted all you want is just to gamble and have fun everybody but losing that big is not fun anymore. I never lose that kind of amount of money because that is not my range of betting, I would devastated if ever it will happen to me as I know anytime I could be addicted since I was once in the situation in the past.
For average person who does only have small amounts of bitcoin lets say 5-10 btc or more and then he gambled on that base bet then he is already aware on what would happen and his bitcoin is on the risk and addiction is really hard to control specially when you do lose a particular bet and with that you will surely do next is to chase and hope to win it back that's why you increased your bet until you got busted.If you only have that money then you will surely cry or regret but if you are a whale with hundred or thousands of bitcoin then it wouldn't matter at all but still the risk of bankrupt is always there.
8787  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitdouble.io |social gambling game |Prov fair | 0.005 mBit faucet | New PVP game on: March 26, 2017, 12:33:46 PM
This game is a good gambling site. Ive played bitdouble.io and im completely happy because every time I play I always win. But Of course i take a safety measure in order to make my self win every time I play. 

Wow always win? Would you mind to share how much your profit on this site?
If you always win here then you should not play on other sites, just keep playing here and perhaps you can take all bitdouble's bankroll.

Maybe he placed 3 bets and win all 3 Smiley
Now serious: I don't think there is a strategy to win ... maybe just some small details (arround 5%) but the rest is just luck.
Agree, he might consider it as an "Always win" play if he just place a few bets and won all of it. Theres no really strategy on this kind of games which really needs luck.
All things for sure here on Bitdouble that this site is paying and legit no matter how big your winnings just like on the image posted above.
8788  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: March 24, 2017, 10:31:05 AM
for me trading better because we did not lose all of our money when the value of coin down and in gambling we will lose all our money when losing also gambling has many risks
Overall trading is less risky in gambling.
In trading we can earn profit by analyzing the movements of the market and using some strategy that can help us in trading assets or coins.


Yes, trading is for the serious person who wana win by applying their mind. But on the other hand Gambling is Fun and you can win only by playing games at gambling. Smiley
Gambling can be serious too gambling is already a game why you need to make a fun of it?? Gambling needs an good strategy when you are playing not just to play and lose your money there. Trading can be minimize your lose trading is just for a week nor a month. Gambling can do everyday.
When gambling is a game why we need it everyday ? At the same time trading must be a way of earning then why we keep it for a week or month ? We must frequent the earning way than what we do just for entertainment. But in practical we are reversely doing as you are stating.

Gambling is just a game, then we must try to extract the maximum fun out of it. Trading could support us to lead a life, so we must do it with almost care and dedication to find it as an extra source for leading a comfortable life. Mixing these two or swapping one into another might take to disasters.
Mixing two things wont be a disaster if you do know how to control your self and putting up limits when talking on handling on your funds and i would rather focus up on trading since we do know this knowledge would be forever and could possibly use for a lifetime to support you as long you do know how to trade and make constant profits.
8789  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: March 24, 2017, 08:33:07 AM
Well for me, experience does really matter and it's give you encouragement when you are gambling for a longer time. Because an experienced gambler knows what to do and he has a lot of strategies to do. As they know the consequences that they can't take but because they already went through with it, they know what to do.
If you have experience you will surely have the confidence to play gambling specially on sports and other card games since you already know on what to do but still skills and strategies wont still matter if luck isnt on your side because you will definitely lose no matter how skillful you are but still its good to have these knowledge after all.
8790  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: March 24, 2017, 06:33:21 AM
Either there is a gambling or not, our family is really important to us, so why we should open a topic like this. quit gambling and think for our love ones? of course that's common. I always think of my love ones for their future and I don't play gambling too much.
I think you got it wrong . What he was trying to say is most of the gamblers are addicted to gambling spend money on gambling without realising that they have a family to look for. I have read stories that gamblers removed all their savings and put them in gambling and ended up losing everything and his family was starving.

Well, maybe for people who are addicted to heavy gambling, they never thought of his family again. I also have seen some people who spend what they have just to gamble. in fact, willing to quit his job. but, perhaps with the thought of the family, or the people he loves, maybe so, they begin to restrict themselves in gambling.

Not everyone who addicted to heavy gambling, never thought of their families those who are addicted on heavy gambling is rich that they don't mind about their loses or they don't mind about their money they all want is to relief stress hence , Those big man get profit also not just loosing their money on gambling they some of them are inspiration are families to focus on game.
That's true, I think Big people that has a power to use a lot if money in gambling they are the ones who spend more money in gambling unlike to us, or I, I don't have enough that money that I will spend in gambling because I am also thinking my family first before gambling.
Family is the first priority among all and i would really secure it first rather than on spending on gambling.If you saw that gambling does really affect your financial status then better to quit gambling for good and better to think on your families future.
8791  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: DONT PLAY AT FORTUNE JACK!!!! I was ripped off. on: March 24, 2017, 05:38:35 AM
What honestly the error you receive you should do screenshot or video as a proof that you receive the error..
If you dont have a strong proof because sometimes in their system they can not read some issue. so better to make a screenshot when the error happens..  so that they can help you if you are just giving the history of your bet i think its useless

It is true. We can't argue that there was an error but without any proof. This site is quite old, and many people trusted them, but the only thing is they are quite slow in replying queries, but I don't think they will spoil their reputation for such a small amount. Since there is a max button and by mistake, you might have pressed.
Agree on what you have said FJ is already quiet old and been operating for long period and now this issue have come out and for op theres a max bet button and you cant tell us that theres none even you are saying your are on mobile.One thing does question on my mind,wheres the betting log of that last bet? Hoping for admin to clarify this things up.
8792  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: March 24, 2017, 04:42:49 AM
we are still gambling is because we still have passion in gambling and we still want to get the money and for the other people, they are having fun in gambling games no matter if they are loss. this is happen to me too and i think playing gambling is an interesting activity that i can get in my spare time.
Playing gambling game as a past time is the thing should people do treat this way and not aiming for money on playing it.Most people have different reasons on why they always play gambling some for entertainment and some for making money.For people who do continue on playing even they are losing then they might have gambling addiction.
8793  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 24, 2017, 04:09:11 AM
Yes, I would continue gambling exactly as I gamble now, with the amount of money I'm afford to lose. Surely if money wouldn't be a problem for me I would gamble with high amounts of money instead of the few coins I gamble at this moment. It's nice to win money gambling, doesn't matter if you are playing to have profit or to have fun.

Then you'll lose every penny in your bank account in gambling even if on the time you said you will gamble more money. Gambling will be your problem and you status would change and you will lose that "money would not be a problem" situation you have. You have to consider saving your money first before you start wasting everything on gambling.
You would really lose up on those amounts that you had when you do play abusively on high amounts and we do all know money can be easily gone if you spend it unwisely specially on playing gambling those money would really deplete no matter what that's why we should not abuse it and instead using it on more important things than gambling.

As I said, I would continue playing the amount I'm afford to lose. The difference is that now the amount I'm afford to lose is low and if money wouldn't be a problem for me this amount would be much more money, a high amount of money. Nothing would change, gambling wouldn't be a problem for me and I would continue playing smart, with a maximum loss limit, so I can control myself this way.  Smiley
If all gamblers have the same perspective of yours then gambling world would be a lot better and broke people would lessen because of playing gambling.We all know if people have lots of money they are becoming confident on playing because they know they have money to spent on and not minding on other things already.
8794  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to make a good amount with 0.01BTC? on: March 23, 2017, 03:44:12 PM
Sports Betting is the most fun method of betting from my experience. I've tried to play other games like virtual poker or other card games yet they just didn't appeal to me as easily as the sports betting does.
Betting with Bitcoin is fun as it is and it's more fun if I make a bunch of money on whatever it is that I put money in as well. I just want to make money passively while having fun so there shouldn't be any issues if I lose a match with a small little bit of money sitting in it.
It does depends on an individual on what kind of game would be appealing to them.Im n fan on playing sports betting instead I'm interested on some card games and dice and back to the topic 0.01 btc isn't a big amount to talk since its just really small to consider when we do play gambling but this amount will  enough on playing dice.
8795  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Arbitrage with bitcoins on: March 23, 2017, 02:19:51 PM
I don't like arbitrage betting because you need a large amount of btc to have some decent profits. There is a huge counterparty risk at the gambling sites if you were stuck at withdrawing your funds, you will find yourself losing a lot of money. I would rather trade altcoins then at least you can move your funds easily than at gambling sites which may raise some red flags in your account.
If you are doing arbitrage betting you would really need to have huge pockets so that you would able to feel the profits as you said and  risk of losing is always there.One problem will really cost you a lot if chances wouldn't be on your side.Talking about the site they are prohibiting these kind of betting which would really put you in trouble too.
8796  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When did you start gambling? (Because of BCT Promotion?) on: March 23, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
I have been gambling for over 10 years now mainly on sports games as I never seem to have much luck playing at any casinos online or off line lol so I tend to stick with what works for me and that is sports betting. I just started late last year betting with crypto currencies more so with BTC and Doge and I'm glad I have as it has helped build up some of my crypto stacks.

Exceptional. You still can survive for 10 years in gambling ..?? , this is something that gives some the impression that pretty much in gambling. It is indeed a pretty lucrative gambling and provide the best thing is to do sports gambling, because by simply doing an approximate score or guess who wins can give you a great advantage. But all gambling should have good self control and not greedy in thinking about an advantage
 
10 years is already quiet a long engagement with gambling and its unbelievable for someone did survive been this for so long since he mentioned he doesn't much luck on playing such games and I think hes a rich person I guess because if a person doesn't have capability in means of money he cant sustain for too long.Its amazing though to hear that someone playing gambling for 10 years and counting.
8797  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you care about bonuses on btc casino ? on: March 23, 2017, 01:14:20 PM
I am not sure whether i will be thrilled about the bonuses on a casino but what i know is whales would take any opportunity the casino gives to have the better edge when they are gambling and i am small fish in the pond and i do not bother about these bonuses.

the good days of casino bonuses are over. there was once a time when the casinos gave away so many coins and did lots of promotions to "get the word out" and get more people to come and try their services and they are good promotions.
these days all the bonuses and promotions are designed in a way to "trap users" instead.
Yeah in the past bonuses were made to keep the user active in the gambling activities as well to gain good reputation to the gambling websites. Now bonuses provided by few gambling websites perfectly a trap the users and profit out of it. This needs to change as well the bonuses should make the user happy to play more.

Well as you've said, those days are well past us now. Its all about profit for casino owners and i agree with you, though there may be some casinos that provide bonuses for the sake of the players and not themselves, most are only thinking for themselves. I personally use these bonuses to play a game of dice or slot and really i don't get anything from it


Bunoses are made by them so that people could try to play at their site and surely we cannot withdraw it since as you said their are so many condition that impossible for us to reach so we can withdraw their given bunos to us and its not appealing to me thats why i doesn't care on those since i cannot get any benifits from that.
Its a strategy on most gambling/casino sites online on where they announce good high rates of bonuses specially on deposits which would really lure you to deposit because of the bonus and one thing comes to your mind when you are encountering for the first time that you can directly withdraw it but you will realize later about the rollover requirement of those additional bonuses and you will tell to yourself that you fall on a trap.
8798  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuantumDice.com - Bitcoin Dice | 0.5% House Edge | Fastest Dice Site on: March 22, 2017, 02:27:47 PM
Copying concept from a reputable gambling site does really give a bad impact already the credibility on your site and just like other said here its already a red flag to the community and can't be trusted.1 BTC giveaway is decent to lure out fools but I think no one would fall for this.
8799  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitminer.io real or scam? on: March 22, 2017, 01:51:29 PM
does bitminer really pay because when i see payouts nearly 50 ppl are payed everyday

I'm sure that's are fake payments. They make transfers to their own addresses, then mix them and send them one more time. They just loop it and give it as a payout. Try to track them, and you will see that they are going to nowhere!

Check just few posts from this thread and you will have answer if they are ligit.

Other site actually do that and i will not be surpised if bitminer will fake theirs stats to. We should be aware for that one since surely that payouts are just displayed by them so that they can lure people and scammed them when he right time for them comes so its very better if we just not stick to them since we cannot surely earn some money for that kind of scheme.
If you are careless enough you will surely fall to the trap of scammers and its not new anymore on people or site make use of fake transactions or payouts to their own account and if you are a wise person which would seek and investigate you will find out and see it on your own eyes on how they are connected to each other which means this indicates they are purely scam.
8800  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Investing in Bitcoin Casinos are really worth it? on: March 22, 2017, 01:27:42 PM
I think its8really risky...
I understand that people do it but... i don't know if giving your coins to a casino is really a great idea.
They can leave anytime with your money and you cant9do much :/
Bitcoin casinos investing is possible today but extremely risky, the best way to invest passively in gambling casinos is by investing in the sites bankroll, some bitcoin gambling sites have house edge, meaning the long run, if you run them correctly they should all be profitable, however in the short run gambling site can take a hit and have to pay for gamblers and this where bankroll comes.

Well that is the main idea of investing in the casino itself, you do not create one or invest in the creation of one. You invest in the already made casino and you put your money against all the gamblers of the casino. House edge is simply that, an edge over the gamblers. It is nice for the investors and the casinos, though if it is too high then no one will gamble at that casino. There must be some sort of balance there.

Investing on house edge is not risky if you choose right site to invest. And here must put your money on well-reputed site and old sites. We have many sites like this to invest. But sometimes our bad luck we will get loss in this investment. It's common in any business. Take a risk and make money. Without taking the risk, we can not do anything. 

Some times risking is like a suicide so better before we risk we should know that the gambling site we invested on is trusted,legit and properly giving the dividends to their investor so that we can assure to gain some profits on said kind of investment. And also it is advisable to not put all what weve got on one site only so that we can have a choices to earn if one of our investment fall down.
It sounds exaggerated call risking something as a suicide , isn't it?
Of course you have to know very well before making any decision to invest on some casino.
You have to spread to several place , so you can monitoring the profit progress between the casinos and make a judgment on that comparison.
When we are talking about suicide then we are talking about on risking all the money you had because you already mentioned about suicide but if we are talking on decent amount of money to make investment its not really relevant to say such thing. Diversifying your money is always a good way to make comparison on your investment.
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