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881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 12:45:15 AM
The diversification by country and ISP is looking healthy. Way more in Europe this time and less amazon servers. Brilliant.

Awesome over 300 masternodes now, and rising fast. There was only ~230 when I was setting mine up yesterday.
882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 20, 2014, 12:02:17 AM
depth chart does not show 60 btc sell @ 0.02, go get them boys Smiley

What exchange are you seeing that on ?

I don't see it anywhere.


It was removed on Mintpal - the path is pretty clear all the way to 0.03 now lol
883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 19, 2014, 06:49:26 AM
Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you?

https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COIN

XNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code.

Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple'

https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin

There. Source of Darkcoin. You can stop breathing from your mouth.

Lol. Nice try.

Where is darksend??? The entire basis of your mixing.

CLOSED SOURCE.

Mixing doesn't get more centralised than that.

And when it gets opened sourced after its been verified by community leaders - then what ammo will you have.

The development schedule has already been outlined. RC3 --> RC4 --> RC5 --> Opensource. If you dont understand how software development lifecycle works then id suggest you keep quiet.
884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 19, 2014, 06:39:28 AM
Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.

You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means?

Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority.

No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority.


Xnodes don't require 17 BTC to run

Only reason why xnode doesn't require 17 BTC is because xc is worthless. If it 10x or 100x in value then it's gonna be just as "expensive".


The code is also out in the open, unlike DRK. How much less decentralised can you get than closed source?
You keep posting here about XCs latest source not being available yet but when has DRKs?

Contradicting yourself much? Xnode source is not out in the open.


they don't require a setup on a separate server with their own security to operate safely.

XC requires dedicated nodes to operate at all. Would you rather run your distributed app on hundreds or even thousands of dedicated servers with gigabit connections or on average Joes' laptops running on wi-fi connections? Btw, drk's masternode payments solve the problem that is very real even in bitcoin, which is that not many people are willing to run nodes because there is no incentive.


And why do you think Evan hasn't released the DRK source?

Because otherwise we'd have tens of drk clones by now copy-pasted by clueless devs and people losing their monies in them.


Closed source = decentralised.

So xc is decentralised by your definition then.


Enjoy.

You're welcome.

Wow. Are you guys that much shills you ignore what's right infront of you?

https://github.com/atcsecure/X11COIN

XNode system code. Yes, it isn't the latest, but at least it's the base code.

Anyways, The reason DRKs code isn't available at all is the same reason it took him an entire month to fix a bug he called 'simple'

He's out of his depth and scared. And of course he should be scared of clones, other teams would do a better job at creating a clone than he will creating the original. XC already has its clones and they are miles behind. It's the advantage of having a qualified Dev, it doesn't matter who else has your code aslong as your a better coder. With Evan there are a hundred better coders in the altcoin space. With dan I'm struggling to think of even one

And nope, comparing market caps, XC nodes cost ten time less.

And of course you wouldn't want them run on a small ammount of professionally run servers, you want to spread the load as much as possible to stop a small amount of nodes cracking the paths.

You can keep thinking these limiting factors are advantages but they are not. They are characteristics of a seriously outdated system.

Enjoy again.


I guess you were not around when the entire community was laughing at the XC dev as he didnt know how to use github properly. Also that the PoS component of your coin was outsourced to loljosh as he was most probably out of his league.

Also you forget that your coin's algorithm was created by Darkcoin dev (x11) and was subsequently named after it. And yes XC is worthless Smiley
885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 19, 2014, 05:43:06 AM
Yea dude, lets fork from a decentralised system to a centralised system, whoop de doooo.

You're very confused. Do you understand what centralized and decentralized means?

Yes. So please explain in detail how the DRK system doesn't use master nodes, a semi-centralised authority.

No. Please explain in detail how the XC system doesn't use xnodes, a semi-centralised authority.


HAHA He has no idea - XC shills love to throw buzz words around but dont understand the meaning.

XC Buzz word generator = Randomize(Platform, Paradigm, Dynamic, Multi-Path, XNode, Trust, Privacy, Decentralized, Learning, MOON, Only Developed in 3 Weeks)++

886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ** HARD FORK JUNE 20TH ** on: June 19, 2014, 03:06:26 AM
Hi, i have just set up a local/remote masternode, with local masternode on windows and remote on linux ubuntu 14.04 server. Everything works fine till i close the local wallet. Then after a few minutes the remote masternode is listed as offline. What am i doing wrong? Sorry i am a linux noob...

I had the same issue then figured out i missed steps 17. and 18. from the guide: https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/how-to-set-up-ec2-t1-micro-ubuntu-for-masternode-part-2-3.241/

make sure you follow it EXACTLY and it works fine now Smiley

887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 19, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
XC in a matter of days will be considerably more anonymous and much more secure
...
please, tell me where I'm wrong.

XC nodes can steal the coins from the transaction. Very secure indeed.


P2P anonymous platform.

What is this amazing buzz word "platform" you keep referring to btw?

XC nodes won't be able to steal the coins once Rev 2 is released. Multisig implementation will prevent this. From there it is a complete solution. This will be released in the next couple of weeks. Unlike the DRK Dev the XC Dev actually sticks to, and beats deadlines.

Platform, in the next few days the first features will be introduced, first I believe will be anonymous P2P IM. From there the xnode architecture can be built on to provide hundreds of different types of applications in a P2P decentralised structure, the possibilities are endless and only limited by the developers. XNode system is setup to be built upon, not as just mixers

You can check all this for yourself if you just did your research instead of asking stupid questions.

Anything else? Or is that actually it? Because I can create a list ten times larger than that for DRKs issues.

Are you that stupid....you keep saying "Just wait until XC Rev 2 and multi-sigs".

You do realise DRK already has multi-sigs in Darksend and is currently functional. XC dev switched to multi-sigs when he realised he couldn't get around the bad actor problem and is now following Darksend.

At this current time XC 1.5 transfers the ACTUAL coins to the mixer. How fucking stupid is that.

Edit: And also what did happen to the buzz word filled "dynamic trust learning system" just wait when XC Dev announces "XC Collateral" again following Darkcoin.
888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: June 17, 2014, 09:45:36 AM
I think the DRK masternode concept is ingenious and a real game changer for the crypto world. It fixes some of the major floors in the bitcoin model by having a proof of service model.

I was wondering if we should start putting on our thinking caps to see what other avenues we can utilise with proof of service, I am sure Evan already has some really awesome ideas.
889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: June 17, 2014, 06:16:24 AM
Whats the RC4 news ?!

Secret for now - maybe we will get a glimpse after RC3 is operational.
890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 16, 2014, 03:58:59 AM


So what you are saying is you are going to throw the existing XNode architecture out the window and use Multi-Sig instead of transferring the ACTUAL coins through the mixers. What Darkcoin has and is already functional.

So basically this means that XC architecture 1.5 is STILL flawed and there is bad actor scenario's where coins can be stolen.

ya... as if DRk is completely working now right?   RC3 still isnt' out where the masternode actually can pay the operators and not fork like mad.   Why don't you come back when DRK is actually fully working first...?

DRK multi-sig IS working...only masternode payments. And before you say fork...XC had to be check-pointed and a new wallet released a few weeks ago from an unplanned fork!

Just to highlight to investors - everyone has been screaming that XC is flawed and now after all this development the Dev announces that he is going to COPY darkcoin's multi-sig architecture to get around the bad actor and coin stealing problem........what a

waste of time...

So what your saying is XC will copy #dorks closed source code?  I see.  Huh

Key word: ARCHITECTURE..not code, learn to READ..essentially the Dev has now realised his is flawed and now needs to make an XNode the SAME as a Masternode in Darkcoin.


Did you say the same thing about DRK masternode RC3 trying to go fix their payment and forking issue?  

DRK architecture is so closed source... you have not a single idea of what DRK really is doing...   how can you say anything about architecture when you don't know yourself?

Go read the DRK whitepaper...and besides thats not the point....point is XC Dev now realised the XC architecture is FLAWED. End of Story.
891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 16, 2014, 03:54:20 AM


So what you are saying is you are going to throw the existing XNode architecture out the window and use Multi-Sig instead of transferring the ACTUAL coins through the mixers. What Darkcoin has and is already functional.

So basically this means that XC architecture 1.5 is STILL flawed and there is bad actor scenario's where coins can be stolen.

ya... as if DRk is completely working now right?   RC3 still isnt' out where the masternode actually can pay the operators and not fork like mad.   Why don't you come back when DRK is actually fully working first...?

DRK multi-sig IS working...only masternode payments. And before you say fork...XC had to be check-pointed and a new wallet released a few weeks ago from an unplanned fork!

Just to highlight to investors - everyone has been screaming that XC is flawed and now after all this development the Dev announces that he is going to COPY darkcoin's multi-sig architecture to get around the bad actor and coin stealing problem........what a

waste of time...

So what your saying is XC will copy #dorks closed source code?  I see.  Huh

Key word: ARCHITECTURE..not code, learn to READ..essentially the Dev has now realised his is flawed and now needs to make an XNode the SAME as a Masternode in Darkcoin.
892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 16, 2014, 03:40:11 AM


So what you are saying is you are going to throw the existing XNode architecture out the window and use Multi-Sig instead of transferring the ACTUAL coins through the mixers. What Darkcoin has and is already functional.

So basically this means that XC architecture 1.5 is STILL flawed and there is bad actor scenario's where coins can be stolen.

ya... as if DRk is completely working now right?   RC3 still isnt' out where the masternode actually can pay the operators and not fork like mad.   Why don't you come back when DRK is actually fully working first...?

DRK multi-sig IS working...only masternode payments. And before you say fork...XC had to be check-pointed and a new wallet released a few weeks ago from an unplanned fork!

Just to highlight to investors - everyone has been screaming that XC is flawed and now after all this development the Dev announces that he is going to COPY darkcoin's multi-sig architecture to get around the bad actor and coin stealing problem........what a waste of time...
893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 16, 2014, 03:34:06 AM
I don't see the whole "multipath" idea yet, but at least mixer outputs come from the 550XC masternode input rather than the senders inputs.


Can some further details or source code be provided for how the signatures for multipath/mixed transactions work for this release? It still doesn't look like there is any multisignature going on between the wallet and mixer wallet so in theory mixers can still steal coins in rev2?.



Not in rev2..  You cant steal coins



Can you address this with technical details or some proof.  I keep seeing people say that these coins will get stolen.  They are even talking about it in CINNI thread.  


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=573232.msg7335393#msg7335393

XC is in the near DUMP or a Pump-n-Dump right now. They released their new wallet. Anyone know if it is better than ours??My feeling it's a scam coin. Thoughts, comments? thnx.

~darylluke.

its a scam and not worth of mention in Cinni thread Wink

would you want a hold a coin that can stolen/lost because of xnode?  its completely experimental, people should able to expect that when they send coins somewhere it ends up at their intended destination, not someplace else because of malfunction or a bad xnode stealing coins.

Its unacceptable for your coins to be at risk because of experimental features.  Imagine you sent anon 100k XC somewhere and a bad xnode hijacks and sends it to their own address.  Shocked


Lets set the record straight

#1.  XC is not a scam coin.

#2.  XC's XNode technology is still under development

#3.  You can't send more than 10 XC's through the XNODE system, plus you have to use the debug console, so clearly it is Beta feature that is being tested to demonstrate the progress[and provide PROOF] and provide testing for the code.

#4.  REV2 Will use multisig to prevent stolen coins

So what you are saying is you are going to throw the existing XNode architecture out the window and use Multi-Sig instead of transferring the ACTUAL coins through the mixers. What Darkcoin has and is already functional.

So basically this means that XC architecture 1.5 is STILL flawed and there is bad actor scenario's where coins can be stolen.
894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant on: June 15, 2014, 09:48:31 AM
Not sure if its been posted yet but Canadian Supreme Court rules internet anonymity is key to privacy.

Darkcoin sure is heading down the right path!

http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/13/canadian-supreme-court-anonymity-is-a-right/
895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 15, 2014, 03:43:10 AM
Chaeplin doesn't want to create bad publicity for DRK.

Admitting he can't crack XC 1.5 with multipath would be like shooting himself in the foot cos DRK is vulnerable to the pattern matching techniques.

Just wait until word gets out.

Let the word get out - no one wants their coins stolen by the existing solution.

NO ONE CARES ABOUT XC ANYMORE
896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: SCAM Darkcoin instamine 2 millions DRKs (50% of darkcoin in circulation) on: June 14, 2014, 11:34:44 AM
Again, just to remind you. If you are a new investor who want to invest in Drk. please find information below.

NO

ONE

CARES

ABOUT

YOUR

FUD
897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 14, 2014, 04:28:50 AM
My intentions on Unmoderated XC thread:

The right of privacy.


Haha owned this thread in one sentence. Anyonymity. What anonymity. Privacy at best.
898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 14, 2014, 01:56:29 AM
Love the way things are headed. The Dev keeps the upgrades rolling in. Every time I see an update from atc I  Smiley. Keep up the great work guys. I am now 100% confident that true anon will happen very soon, and it will be right here with XC. I keep checking the price and laugh to myself.

To whomever is keeping the price down thank you. I need to buy as many as possible before the price hits .01

I'm convinced that rev 1.5 is 100% anonymous. With all the FUD that ATCsecure and XC has endured and nobody has even made a guess so far? 

You are convinced - wow you are easily swayed. Its that nobody cares to waste time on this, hence no replies.
Wow, you just replied.  Maybe you would be swayed to quit wasting your time being that nobody cares. Your not convinced?

Hence?

some people need to be told the obvious
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] X11/PoS/Privacy on: June 14, 2014, 01:34:52 AM
Love the way things are headed. The Dev keeps the upgrades rolling in. Every time I see an update from atc I  Smiley. Keep up the great work guys. I am now 100% confident that true anon will happen very soon, and it will be right here with XC. I keep checking the price and laugh to myself.

To whomever is keeping the price down thank you. I need to buy as many as possible before the price hits .01

I'm convinced that rev 1.5 is 100% anonymous. With all the FUD that ATCsecure and XC has endured and nobody has even made a guess so far? 

You are convinced - wow you are easily swayed. Its that nobody cares to waste time on this, hence no replies.
900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unmoderated XC thread on: June 14, 2014, 01:26:26 AM
lol@xc

lol what

it's full nynomyous multipath paradigm protocol with blockchain2.0

lol

Its a multi-path warp vortex coin moving platform coupled character convergence paradigm with bleeding edge self-motivated dynamic enterprise grade trust learning system which will be housed in blockchain 2.0

All developed in 4 weeks. All your base belong to us.  Roll Eyes
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