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8801  Economy / Speculation / Re: First Batch of $1,400 Stimulus Checks Hit Bank Accounts Starting Today on: March 16, 2021, 08:19:08 AM
I’m tempted to put my check into Bitcoin as an experiment. With tax time approaching though, I think that might make for a better use. I’m guessing we all wish we would have put our previous checking into BTC, which seem to always be the winning bet over time against all others.
8802  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Stimulus has passed - law of the land. on: March 16, 2021, 05:41:19 AM
It’s starting to feel like the government is paying my bills at this point. I give it 2 more presidents at the most before we’re all getting monthly checks. Everything feels like we’ve moving towards universal income, it’s just a matter of time.
8803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: March 16, 2021, 05:32:57 AM
I'm late with my picks.
Joining the gang for the Suns -6.5. One of us loses then all of us goes down.  Grin
and
Nuggets -4.5 versus Pacers
Battle of big men. Will it be the skills challenge champion Domantas Sabonis or Nikola Jokic the triple-double specialist.
Good luck to all of you guys.

Good picks. Looks like you got yourself a couple wins for tonight. Both of those teams had big wins easily clearing the spreads. It’s great to see the Suns being bet on to win for a change! It’s been 15 years of waiting!
8804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: March 16, 2021, 05:30:17 AM
Old man James with a triple double tonight against the Golden State Warriors to help his Lakers pull out the win. It’s funny that people are talking about Steph coming to the Lakers now... Personally I think that’s crazy talk and he’ll retire with Golden State, but even the great Kobe Bryant once requested a trade so you never know...
8805  Economy / Speculation / [Poll] Did you get Zhou Tonged? on: March 16, 2021, 01:55:37 AM
I heard on a podcast that over a billion dollars in leveraged funds was lost with margin calls today as a result of the price drop.

I am surprised that so many people are taking such dangerously leveraged positions. History always repeats itself for those who have not yet learned the great lesson of Zhou Tong.

When you trade BTC using leverage, it is only a matter of time before you get Zhou-Tonged.

Enjoy.

https://youtu.be/kdvTkddp1F0
8806  Economy / Collectibles / Re: With all the NFT stuff going on Id like to make another Proof Of Burn project on: March 15, 2021, 09:39:00 PM
Technically I did what NFT's could not!
I assigned additional tangible value to a physical item via signature binding.
I want to do this again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150524
I need a serialized item in bulk , any suggestions?
I was leaning on more tardedeco notes with a better printing process and higher denominations burned to the notes.
Id like something multi variable value wise , like a goldback with btc burned to its SN.
Or a papersafe with burned and non burned BTC
I had 2 or 3 makers reach out to me after my first project launched but nothing ever came of it.  Id like to revisit this!

This is interesting but I'm not 100% clear on your idea. 

It does sound slightly similar to my Minted Seats in that it takes BTC off the chain and adds it to a physical item.  However, Minted Seats can be peeled and the BTC held on the address can be claimed. They receive/store BTC at the coin's address, but are also attached to "seats" that are tied to BTC held at a savings address and are made of precious metals, giving them several different "denominations" of value.  Minted Seats are "serialized" in bulk, as are the more typical digital seats and would be in my opinion good candidates for "signature binding" or attaching NFTs.  This is an idea I've been kicking around a while and have many thoughts, but they're all still on the drawing board.  I am always open to ideas that add fun or value to "seats" as well as new ways to remove BTC from circulation, so this project interests me.
8807  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Why do people forget their passwords? on: March 15, 2021, 09:23:44 PM
I don't think there's anything wrong with "forgetting" your password.  I don't even know my bitcointalk password at the moment.  I personally think if you don't know your password, then it would be difficult to use it unsafely. Wink

I would be worried if my memory was the only thing keeping my logins safe.  I've learned over many years that it is best to have a solid means of recovery.  Being reliant on any one thing, memory, piece of paper, electronic file; will likely end up causing you problems.  

So while you ask why people forget their passwords, I wonder why they ever knew them at all...
8808  Other / Off-topic / Re: I always feel like I'm in a fever dream... what is this? on: March 15, 2021, 09:13:26 PM
Eat right, exercise, drink lots of water, and gets lots of sleep.  That cures most of life's problems.
8809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: March 15, 2021, 08:42:48 PM
Good day for basketball. The Nets and Lakers both have televised games on ESPN and trade talk is heating up. The latest news being that Aaron Gordon wants out of Orlando and the Lakers have begun talks to acquire Hassan Whiteside now that Drummond seems likely to go a different direction. Cousins and Aldridge still dangling out there as trade bait as well.
8810  Economy / Securities / Re: 📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) on: March 15, 2021, 12:11:01 AM
Yes, i'd like to be able to access the funds on the coin below the threshold!
With an “optional pending payout”, i know that i'm able to spend the “rewards" whenever i see fit. 



This is a positive suggestion to restore confidence in the investment as a whole and I'd like to hear if there are others who are with me on this one.


Good to know that i'm pessimistic; i'd like to hear your expectation when we'll reach the treshold Smiley

I agree you should be able to access any BTC you consider yours. If you’re willing to peel the coin to do so, I don’t see any problem with it. It is up to nonnakip to put in the work to make this happen though, and I’m not sure how much time he has for things like that. I did offer to match donations made to him for development a while back to try and entice him to add more developments like this but nobody ever took me up on it. I can only do what I can do. If users wanted to vote to donate a portion of the savings it would likely be possible for many more coins to hit the threshold that way to trigger their distributions.

As for when coins will hit the threshold, every one is different. It depends on a number of factors. Many of the coins have received distributions and all of the distribution data and amounts held under the threshold are all public.


Those seats were actually listed for sale for several months, they sold a few days after being listed at rock bottom prices, below their share of bitcoin that NF has in savings.

Yes, you had them listed way too high with the rising BTC rate and the market wouldn’t pay that price. You then lowered it down substantially (lower than probably needed) and they sold extremely quickly. That’s how free markets work.
8811  Economy / Securities / Re: 📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) on: March 14, 2021, 08:10:57 PM
I'd like to propose a vote to optionally payout the pending distributions.

As the distributions will never reach the treshold in our livetimes, the (minted) seats have become a worthless investment. By giving the option to manually make the payout, it suddenly becomes a savings account again. I'm confident that this will be reflected in market-price of seats and appreciation / activity of the club.

Please know that it's only about "giving the option". Due to the size of the club i don't think it will happen very often.
So it can be as easy as an email with a manual approval, bookkeeping entry and transaction on your side.

You’d want to peel your coin to access below the threshold funds? That seems to me like taking an axe to a Cadillac to try and get the gas inside the gas tank to sell. If there’s demand that wants this I could see looking into it, but it sounds more like a dust attack then a feature to me.

I would agree that there should be options available. Personally, I’d like to see peeled coins “claimed” and have the seat removed from the coin and any pending balances moved to the claimant’s account where they could be distributed that way, but I’m not a capable developer for something like this so I can only make requests same as you.

As for your claim that seats will never reach the payout in our lifetimes, you should refrain from saying things that are not only untrue, but also extremely pessimistic. I would recommend you learn “the secret” as I think it would change your life given your irrational pessimism.
8812  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: March 14, 2021, 08:52:29 AM
LaMelo Ball had a ridiculous highlight from tonight’s game. I’m amazed this is the same kid from those Ball in the Family clips. He’s separated himself from the pack and will likely win the Rookie of the Year award this year. Will probably lead his team to the playoffs as well. I was definitely wrong about him. Here’s his line from tonight.

23 points
9 rebounds
6 assists
7/11 FG
6/9 3PT
8813  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: People die from heart attack when they hit the jackpot. on: March 14, 2021, 06:03:13 AM
I might have to do some research on this subject. Seems like something you only see in the movies. I can’t recall ever hearing a real story of this happening on the news. Listening to how people describe lottery winners, it really does sound like more of a curse than a blessing.
8814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Services of betting on your behalf on: March 13, 2021, 03:26:17 AM
Don't take the risk by entrusting your funds to someone else. You could actually apply personal techniques in gambling which they couldn't do for you so you might only end up losing your money. You could actually enjoy and be entertained if you'll do it yourself. Betting brokers couldn't guarantee you a good winning because gambling will still be gambling no matter who would bet for you.

It is unreasonable to trust third parties not only with your money, but also listen to their advice (for money or for free). There is such a type of fraud - a "forecaster" sells (or simply gives for a promise to share future profits) forecasts for an event. He gives opposite predictions to different people, therefore, by deceiving one person, he makes a profit from another.

I don’t know, I could see someone turning to another person to place their bets if they were trying anything they could to win. I would agree that they would be better off doing things on their own, but some people are scared to make decisions when it comes to money, so I would say some people out there could benefit from this, if nothing else to show them their guess is as good as anyone’s and to take a chance on themselves.
8815  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: POLL: Have You Ever Used the Lightning Network? on: March 12, 2021, 06:27:53 PM
I have never used the lightning network.  There's lots of altcoin networks I've never used.  I don't find lightning to be any more special than any of the others. 
I would not describe LN as an "altcoin network".

I would. I did. I’ll do it again because that is what it is. I don’t care what cryptographic magic or guarantees make users feel like Lightning is Bitcoin, it isn’t...  Anyone could make an altcoin with the same cryptographic guarantees, but nobody would call it Bitcoin and rightfully so. Do you think ETH’s Wrapped Bitcoin is also Bitcoin? Do you think USD loans given with Bitcoin as collateral is also Bitcoin? Are Casascius Coins bitcoins or are they holding BTC? What about leveraged BTC on exchanges or call options, are those Bitcoin too? Where is the line drawn? Just because Core maintainers developed it doesn’t give anyone the right to call it Bitcoin any more than CSW can say his altcoin garbage is Bitcoin. It should be pretty obvious that Bitcoin exists on the Bitcoin blockchain but I figured it was obvious that having a dick means you should use the men’s restroom, so maybe I’m just not with the times and LBTC identifies as BTC.
8816  Economy / Securities / Re: 📈 NastyFans: The Bitcoin Enthusiast Fan Club (est. 2012) on: March 12, 2021, 06:02:39 PM
I might suggest using x dollars per month to repurchase seats and use them for giveaways.

I do really really like the idea!

One issue for seat holders is the lack of liquidity in the auctions. There is only a "sell side" but the buy side of the order book is missing.
Regular seat purchases would make the seat market more liquid.

Its like a stock buyback program: good for the remaining seat holders!

What to do with the seats that have been bought back is another question   Cool

I don’t think using our funds to manipulate the market is a good thing for anyone and nonnakip has stated he does not want to have fans depositing funds to hold on the site.

The market looks like there’s demand for seats.. There were just a couple hundred seats traded after being listed only a few days. The problem is that sellers are asking more than buyers want to pay. The current lowest priced seat is nearly double the price of the last sale. I would recommend potential sellers list their seats for sale closer to the last sale price if they want them to sell.
8817  Economy / Reputation / Re: Reference topic: Why are these members excluded on trust lists? on: March 12, 2021, 06:19:57 AM
LoyceV,
Being fair, I think you’re a weasel who supports the worst of the worst on this forum because you’re a trust manipulating coward. People like you who have had next to no real trustworthy interactions here shouldn’t even be in DT, let alone one desperately seeking control by adding mentally deranged users to their network that actively harass others here. You and suchmoon are just as scummy as Vod in my opinion, only you do so in the shadows. That’s why I excluded you from my network.
8818  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: March 12, 2021, 06:05:33 AM
Nets won again, that's a great win against a good team.

They beat the Celtics 109-121 and Irving lead the team with 40 points while Harden contribute a double double effort with 22 points and 10 rebounds.
Both are so consistent, they have been winning and had only lose once when Irving was resting.

Kyrie was playing like he wanted to prove a point to his former team. He never fit in back when he was a player in Boston and it seems like there’s bad blood there. I’m sure he’s overjoyed to have put up a 40 piece BBQ chicken meal on them tonight.
8819  Economy / Speculation / Re: What's your exit price(s) on this bull run? on: March 11, 2021, 10:40:11 PM
$200,000.00
8820  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: POLL: Have You Ever Used the Lightning Network? on: March 11, 2021, 10:29:54 PM
I have never used the lightning network.  There's lots of altcoin networks I've never used.  I don't find lightning to be any more special than any of the others.  I actually find it to be less honorable than most given the developer's attitude following the New York Agreement so it isn't something I'd rush to support.

Who actually still follow New York Agreement? I thought people forget it after Bitcoin community boycott SegWit2x.

Nobody follows the New York Agreement anymore.  That's the point.  People moved on and created a 400 billion dollar altcoin market.  The lost synergies have most definitely cost the Bitcoin market a ton of value, heartache, time spent bickering amongst each other, and splintered the real resource, creators of use cases, while making low value trades of BTC ridiculously expensive and replacing real world activity with the idea of hodling.  I don't know about you, but if I found Bitcoin today and it's main use was to hold and try to sell to someone later for more, I would have avoided it, as I don't invest in the Greater Fool Theory.  Wall Street is certainly embracing it as a way to generate management fees, so if that was satoshi's goal, to create another revenue source for the existing monetary system, congratulations, we did it!  People are even more excited about Dogecoin now for god's sake...  It's tough to say what could have been, but it's simple to say what became was not the original intent that had many of us excited to help change the world.  Do you think the New York Agreement would still have failed if everyone knew that in 2021 the Lightning network would be what it is today?


I've also never had a single escrow request come in for Lightning funds, despite receiving hundreds of requests for other altcoins, leading me to believe that not many users are doing any real activity with Lightning.

That's because LN only useful when you frequently make transaction and more suitable for micro-payments, where escrow usually is neither of them.

OK, I've never had someone ask me to open a Lightning channel for any reason, ever.  Escrow was just one example.  Come to think of it, I don't even think I've seen Lightning payments accepted for any goods or services on this forum ever.  This despite having the "altcoin pass" to post anywhere here while other altcoins do not.
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