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8901  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 04:58:26 AM
-Quoted for Awesomeness.

Elwar will you be my valentine?

...You gotta stop feeding the troll first tho... This one is waaaaaaaaaaay too far gone.  Look at his avatar!

I like the avatar I created for my alt account. It makes it more convincing right? I mean, if I did not set myself up so easily I would not be able to post such fun posts.
8902  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 04:09:14 AM
Yeah, you have it real bad in  the US because you actually have pay for the services you use on a daily basis.   Its not bad enough for you to take political action or leave apparently, just bad enough to act like a pariah and compare yourself to a slave.

I am just stating a fact. Theft is theft. It is understandable if you are ok with stealing to pay for "society", you are in good company with most Americans.

Political action? You mean like when I ran for Congress or was a state delegate in Texas?

Leave? Done. It is 8:30AM right now where I live (time to go get some breakfast).

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I'd love to see you live under an actual oppressive regime, I doubt you'd last a week in North Korea.

And how do oppressive regimes oppress? Through the initiation of force. Same offense, different scale. If you lived in North Korea you would be raving about all of the wonderful things that great leader gives his citizens while ignoring the theft.
8903  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The First Political Zone to Officially Recognize Cryptocoins on: May 23, 2013, 03:51:42 AM
Costa Rica has a few of these free trade zones where a business can set up there and they are free from some of the tarriffs and quotas. Basically they have to follow most of the laws but they are given a waiver on several of the financial laws. They are usually set up in economically underdeveloped areas where they want to stimulate the economy. Since Costa Rica has a high import tax people go to these areas and stock up on big ticket purchases without needing to pay the high tax.

If that is what the OP is talking about, it would be ok and all...just not a free zone.
8904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price skyrocketting!! $266 here we come!! on: May 23, 2013, 03:34:12 AM
Tomorrow we won't be saying how many Bitcoins we have but how many Lamborghinis we can afford.

lol

I should start packing now.

Do you bring your old stuff with you or just buy new stuff when moving to your private island?
8905  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 03:11:49 AM
It was never stealing in the first place.

When someone takes money away from someone else without their consent, that is stealing.

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The rest of what you wrote is appalling. Comparing yourself as a modern american (whom Id be willing to bet is white, male, and around 25-40 years old) to a slave in any way is disgusting, and a disservice to the poor people that had to suffer those atrocities.

Slavery and the initiation of force against humans is disgusting.

People will look back at our current time in history with the same disgust.

Relying on theft for your goods and services because it is accepted is just plain lazy and immoral. Anyone who gave it just a bit of thought could figure out that it is not the only way.
8906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price skyrocketting!! $266 here we come!! on: May 23, 2013, 02:38:10 AM
Wow...it went up a dollar...$266 by the weekend?

$300+ BEFORE the weekend.

Hahaha

Seriously though, $500 by tomorrow is more likely.

Now we are getting somewhere...irrational exhuberance!

Do I hear $1,000?
8907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 02:26:31 AM
Oh I see. You don't actually want anything to change, you just want to whine about how "oppressed" you are and pretend that there is nothing you can do about it (like a spoiled teenager).

The whole point of Bitcoin is change. Change you can certainly believe in this time around.

Anyone working toward its free, unadultered, use is working to free humanity from such oppression.
8908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 02:23:59 AM
Again, if you don't like taxes, then you can run for office and try to get taxation repealed (which would be asinine, but it is your choice).

If I do not like theft I should ask the thieves to let me be one of them so that I can tell them to stop stealing?

Slavery was common in the US until 1886. It was accepted, and common.

According to you, the slaves should have just run for office and changed the law.

Or, people would eventually realize that slavery was bad and outlaw it.

That is all well and good for history, but if you are a slave you are stuck waiting for the uninformed masses to start acting morally.

So what do you do? You escape, you find the underground railroad, you do whatever you can do to be free in a society that thinks you should be a slave.


Bitcoin is our underground railroad. Those that still believe in slavery are working to shut it down. Under the guise of "creating laws and regulations to prevent criminals and terrorists from laundering money".
8909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 12:55:55 AM
That makes no sense. At all.

Ignoring the fact that you apparently think taxes are stealing (even though you are provided with education, fire dept, police and military protection, roads, social safety net, etc, etc with those taxes)  

The act is still theft, what is done with the loot afterwards does not change the act.

No, because the citizens of this country elect officials who support taxation to represent them, and in some local/state governments vote on taxes directly.  

The power is always in the peoples hands.

Just because some people vote for theft does not make it any less theft.
8910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 12:47:45 AM
That makes no sense. At all.

Ignoring the fact that you apparently think taxes are stealing (even though you are provided with education, fire dept, police and military protection, roads, social safety net, etc, etc with those taxes)  

The act is still theft, what is done with the loot afterwards does not change the act.
8911  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: The Bitcoin Will (you know, for dead peeps) on: May 23, 2013, 12:45:53 AM
There are many discussion on this.

I believe one of the solutions was to tell your family members half of the private key and then leave the other half in your will.

Or have it on an object that you wear.
8912  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Bitcoin Philanthropist Award on: May 23, 2013, 12:43:26 AM
Hmm, so it would basically be a monetary (BTC) award for the person who uses bitcoin to best help humanity?

That would make a good test of the BitPools project in my sig. Wink

I should have it open for beta testing in about 2-3 weeks.
8913  Economy / Speculation / Bitcoin price skyrocketting!! $266 here we come!! on: May 23, 2013, 12:32:51 AM
Wow...it went up a dollar...$266 by the weekend?
8914  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 12:23:10 AM
Those citizens who are unsatisfied with how they are being represented should vote for people who represent their interests better or run for office themselves.

Our government is, as Lincoln stated, "of the people, by the people and for the people".

Should. But they do not.

They vote for the guy they think can win during the primaries then vote for the lesser of two evils in the general election.


That's a problem of the people, not a problem of the system.  The government doesn't force people to vote that way, the people choose to vote that way themselves.

Well the system perpetuates it. Politicians take money so they can spread their message in a favorable way. You cannot blame politicians for taking money, the system allows it so the output will trend toward them chasing the money. You cannot blame the citizens who try to get as much out of the system because the system allows it and the output will trend toward them chasing the money and voting for politicians that will reward them. You cannot blame the lobbyists since they are rewarded for supplying money to the politicians who will use the power of the government to favor them. The system allows it.

The one step in there that can be blamed is the use of force against people to gain money and power (at the point of the gun under threat of being kidnapped and held prisoner). That is the problem with the system.
8915  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 23, 2013, 12:09:41 AM
You are confusing scientific law with civil and criminal law.  

No, you are confusing science (laws) with pseudocience (jurisprudence, including non-valid concepts like civil and criminal ''laws'').

How exactly is civil and criminal law a "non-valid" concept? 

Most civil and criminal laws are not valid concepts.

They are mainly the initiation of force against people who have not themselves initiated force.
8916  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and the Silk Road on: May 22, 2013, 11:45:51 PM
I think Silk Road will do more for getting rid of gang violence than anything the police could ever do.
8917  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 22, 2013, 11:37:53 PM
Those citizens who are unsatisfied with how they are being represented should vote for people who represent their interests better or run for office themselves.

Our government is, as Lincoln stated, "of the people, by the people and for the people".

Should. But they do not.

They vote for the guy they think can win during the primaries then vote for the lesser of two evils in the general election.

(A scarier thought is that the people elected are actually what people want)

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No? The government isn't made up of US citizens who are elected by other US citizens to represent and serve them?  

Thats news to me.

Well, now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
8918  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is being killed by governments and nobody seems to care! on: May 22, 2013, 11:34:51 PM
8919  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Do I Move To Canada? on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:05 PM

Those don't seem like coin friendly environments though. It needs to get more widespread before you can just go to the Bahamas for coin freedom I think.

Ahh, I was thinking you were talking about bitcoin laws. Yes, I doubt the adoption rate is very high though it would be a good thing to use in Costa Rica since they have an inflationary currency and many locals do not even use that currency.
8920  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Do I Move To Canada? on: May 22, 2013, 11:19:30 PM
If you are country shopping for freedom I have done quite a bit of research.

My final conclusion was Costa Rica though the Bahamas is more free. But the Bahamas are more expensive.

Though there is one kick ass country in asia where the political process involves politicians rising in public office based upon the amount of parties they throw. There is certain criteria to each party including a roasted pig among other things.
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