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901  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: November 15, 2020, 09:21:25 PM
c4a192981cec8591c801da6ccf693ba727f0cf92e87491ae851d8f26941d154b

Got it. Please confirm if the address below is the one where I should reimburse to if Trumps wins (feels funny typing that). Actually all three of you please confirm your addresses because it's not quite clear if the ones you posted earlier in the thread were just used for signing or for receiving funds as well.

If Trump loses the EC vote I'll send 0.01 each to nutildah and TwitchySeal and if anything remains after fees - back to eddie13.

nutildah's address: 19fZGJAsampH3UEMp5WroX3Y6eUU1tdA7B
TwitchySeal's address: 1JqxhKj4CdRqFb7mGdXVMYTMy1MQ5qShsn
eddie13's address: 1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff

Addy is good.. Keep the change..
Recommended fees are ridiculous right now..

Ignore the "Time" in the photo below.  It is WRONG too.  4sat fees confirm next block the past few days.



Do NOT use the Bitcoin Core fee estimator tools... use your eyes/brains.

Bitcoin Core tries to drive in Sunday traffic with Friday's data.... so so so stupid.

There are MUCH better ways to estimate send fees.
902  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: November 15, 2020, 05:11:13 AM
Someone big is buying Monero... this is a market shake out trying to part some week hands of their sweet XMR.

I don't trust this dip. Buy buy buy!

We need more people willing to buy and sell XMR on https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Bitcoin-Monero (no KYC or anything weird, just make an account and go... no email required even.)

(Sort of related, but not really, Freebitcoins.com has listed Wownero... which is a fork of Monero, but has ten times the coins for ten times the WOW! lol Tongue)
903  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🐕 [ANN] Wownero - Such privacy! Many coins! Wow! 🐕 on: November 15, 2020, 02:51:10 AM
FreeBitcoins.com launched the WOW market on XChange today:  https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Bitcoin-Wownero

We should have the Faucet and Swap Tool working for WOW early this upcoming week.

https://freebitcoins.com/blog/buy-sell-free-wownero-wow-on-exchange-at-freebitcoins/

(It should be noted that our wallets don't see WOW/XMR transactions until 1 confirmation, so don't freak out when you don't see your transaction pending if it doesn't have any confirmations yet!)
904  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: November 14, 2020, 11:40:57 PM
We had someone buy DOGE up to 30 satoshis today on FreeBitcoins.

I'm slightly annoyed because I bought like 1 million DOGE for 32 sats, sold them all for 18-20 sats, and now 10 hours later.... she's 30 sats again.

Brb while I an hero! Tongue jk  Grin

FB's need more people willing to sell because someone is clearly willing to buy!

Someone bought DOGE up to 59 satoshi today on https://freebitcoins.com/xchange/market/Bitcoin-Dogecoin

We need people willing to sell DOGE.  The streets are hungry!
905  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🐕 [ANN] Wownero - Such privacy! Many coins! Wow! 🐕 on: November 14, 2020, 01:07:07 AM
Can anyone spare a few WOW for testing?

WW3Sv1JUkDjEPE9QWx1wNqhX3ovWXoqBPNYFwDRZ7SaU5yLF1bN8gcYdu2rTPqE668aaqzNiHEYk4CF RDGhci15M2Atoaxmja

Thanks!!!  (I can buy them if needed too, but really $1 worth is plenty)

Just sent 50 WOW your way


Beautiful, thank you very much good sir.  <3

I shall have an update shortly.
906  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🐕 [ANN] Wownero - Such privacy! Many coins! Wow! 🐕 on: November 14, 2020, 12:44:58 AM
Can anyone spare a few WOW for testing?

WW3Sv1JUkDjEPE9QWx1wNqhX3ovWXoqBPNYFwDRZ7SaU5yLF1bN8gcYdu2rTPqE668aaqzNiHEYk4CF RDGhci15M2Atoaxmja

Thanks!!!  (I can buy them if needed too, but really $1 worth is plenty)
907  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Ignore] Another wrong Hal is Satoshi post. (my bad) on: November 13, 2020, 03:21:21 AM
I did in fact make a mistake in the OP.

I was confused on which address was "Hals".

However, Hal's addresses have spent coins since his death, for sure.
908  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why did Hal Finney lie and say the 10BTC was the first transaction he received? on: November 13, 2020, 02:39:14 AM
Thanks for explanation.

Actually,  I think I made a mistake in the OP... I'm going to have to double-check the address 1ByLSV2gLRcuqUmfdYcpPQH8Npm8cccsFg.

That kinda fucks up everything I said... ops!

Thanks for explanation.
Do you mean, Satoshi already died?

Hal Finney died August 28, 2014. He will forever remain in history as a man who made a huge contribution to the development of Bitcoin.



One thing I am for sure is that Hal has spent Bitcoins well beyond the grave...  Check out his confirmed wallet spending coins in 2017:  https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3

See this screenshot above to confirm that 1Q2TW is for sure Hals.
909  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why did Hal Finney lie and say the 10BTC was the first transaction he received? on: November 13, 2020, 01:52:57 AM
Maybe he was gonna saying "I'm the first person who received first bitcoin transaction from satoshi"

Is there any information who have sent Hal 1 bitcoin as "the first real transaction"?

The 1 BTC that Hal received before the 10BTC came from the same wallet that sent him the 10BTC (with one address in the middle, AKA a peel address)

The 1 BTC ended up in 15NUwyBYrZcnUgTagsm1A7M2yL2GntpuaZ (Hal's address because these coins were swept along with the "first 10btc Hal received from Sat") and the 1btc came from 13HtsYzne8xVPdGDnmJX8gHgBZerAfJGEf (assumed Satoshi Change Address) which came from 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S (Assumed Satoshi Main Address)

The 10 BTC came directly from from 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S.

Hal made a Ross like a mistake and exposed himself right off the bat.  I think I made a mistake with the address "1ByLSV2gLRcuqUmfdYcpPQH8Npm8cccsFg"

Hal ran multiple wallets and Hal is Satoshi.

910  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why did Hal Finney lie and say the 10BTC was the first transaction he received? on: November 13, 2020, 12:47:33 AM
It'd be nice to pay zero sats per byte these days for a transaction too Grin.

Little offtopic, but this is really important and I've been working on this all week for my site:

Stop trusting your Bitcoin client to calculate fees for you... it's HORRIBLE wrong.
(Lots of third party websites like Earn.com are even worse at estimating fees than the client... avoid them like the plague!)

Imagine Bitcoin like a highway... would you drive on 7 am Sunday based on Fridays 5 pm rush hour traffic or would you drive based on the traffic at the moment?  The moment of course! But that isn't how the "fee estimator" works at ALL.

People are grossly overpaying for Bitcoin because the wallet estimator is fucked.  Earn.com and other API providers are even more fucked and priced pointlessly high...

Earn.com API right now says to pay 328 satoshis/byte, Bitcoin Core wallet says 0.00091582 for two blocks, and the reality is:



4 sats for the next block in reality!

Each block clears out 1mb ish... so its fucking wild that Bitcoin Core & Earn would say to pay those huge fees it's obvious you could pay 4 satoshi for the next block.  Almost overcharging 100x and this causes a "pile-up" in the road.

The client is basically like a blind Uber driver trying to select the right toll lane to go over the Bay Bridge... "Well, I remember it was SUPER busy on Friday, so I better take the $10 toll rather than the 10 cent toll!"  When in reality your driver doesn't just use his fucking eyes and look to see which toll lane is best rather than trying to use historic data for a real-time event. (Earn is like a blind driver that also suffers from a little bit of Down Syndrome, lol! Tongue)

Tl;dr stop using Bitcoin Cores fee estimator and third party API websites... they are fucking wrong, horribly designed for users (great for miners), and are basically duping people out of millions of dollars in unneeded fees.

911  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / [Ignore] Another wrong Hal is Satoshi post. (my bad) on: November 13, 2020, 12:10:49 AM
EDIT:  I BELIEVE I MADE A MISTAKE ASSUMING 1ByLSV2gLRcuqUmfdYcpPQH8Npm8cccsFg WAS HAL's.  
MY BAD AND THAT KIND OF FUCKS MY THEORY... I'M GOING TO LOOKING WHEN I WAKE UP TOMORROW,


When Satoshi announced the first release of the software, I grabbed it right away. I think I was the first person besides Satoshi to run bitcoin. I mined block 70-something, and I was the recipient of the first bitcoin transaction, when Satoshi sent ten coins to me as a test. I carried on an email conversation with Satoshi over the next few days, mostly me reporting bugs and him fixing them.

Hal claimed that the 10 BTC sent from "Satoshi" to Hal was the first Bitcoin transaction to Hal.

On 2009-01-14 14:40 someone moved those 10 BTC to a new wallet...(txid:  a3b0e9e7cddbbe78270fa4182a7675ff00b92872d8df7d14265a2b1e379a9d33) however, there is something interesting about that transaction:

There is a transaction for 1 BTC received by Hal's wallet that originated from the 10 BTC Satoshi donation wallet.  

Hal received the 1 BTC at 2009-01-12 01:16

Hal received the 10 BTC at 2009-01-12 14:04

So Hal received a Bitcoin transaction roughly 3 hours before he received the "first bitcoin transaction" of 10BTC AND the 1BTC traces back to the wallet that sent Hal the 10 BTC in the first place as well...

It goes as such:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9 - 50btc generated by assumed "Satoshi"

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/12b5633bad1f9c167d523ad1aa1947b2732a865bf5414eab2f9e5ae5d5c191ba - 29BTC from the 50 are peeled into two wallet.  28 BTC in 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S and 1 BTC 13HtsYzne8xVPdGDnmJX8gHgBZerAfJGEf

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/4385fcf8b14497d0659adccfe06ae7e38e0b5dc95ff8a13d7c62035994a0cd79 - The peel address "13Hts" address then sends 1 BTC to Hal's wallet at 01:16.... for the real "first Bitcoin transaction" to Hal's wallet....

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/828ef3b079f9c23829c56fe86e85b4a69d9e06e5b54ea597eef5fb3ffef509fe - Four hours later Hal claims he received the first Bitcoin transaction of 10btc from the 12cbQL address that sent him the 1BTC via a peel address four hours previous.


Why in the world did Hal say that the 10BTC was the first-ever when it clearly was not......
912  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: November 12, 2020, 11:21:49 PM
We had someone buy DOGE up to 30 satoshis today on FreeBitcoins.

I'm slightly annoyed because I bought like 1 million DOGE for 32 sats, sold them all for 18-20 sats, and now 10 hours later.... she's 30 sats again.

Brb while I an hero! Tongue jk  Grin

FB's need more people willing to sell because someone is clearly willing to buy!
913  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DOGE] Dogecoin - very currency many coin - v1.10.0 on: November 12, 2020, 08:01:50 PM
I would like to ask, is there an electrum dogecoin wallet?

Use core.
914  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Free Bitcoin Stickers! Free Shipping To 190 Countries. PO Box & No Names Are Ok on: November 12, 2020, 06:52:02 PM
Still shipping free stickers for free all over the world.

Please don't be shy.  No names required on addresses.  No custom forms.  No signatures.  No tracking.  All stamps!
915  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🐕 [ANN] Wownero - Such privacy! Many coins! Wow! 🐕 on: November 12, 2020, 05:42:45 AM
Wownero lol. Its almost like you onboarded a train to take you to the mental hospital

FreeBitcoins.com Wownero wallet is officially getting prepped... I believe we will have a market and faucet this week!



which exchange doesn't ask for KYC, tradeogre or citex?

Try FreeBitcoins.com when WOW is listed.  I think you'll like it.
916  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: On a scale 1-10: How mad would you be to see a Bitcoin/Bitcoin Testcoin market? on: November 11, 2020, 04:55:18 PM
something that is designed to not have any value

Isn't Test-net designed almost just like Bitcoin?
917  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: On a scale 1-10: How mad would you be to see a Bitcoin/Bitcoin Testcoin market? on: November 11, 2020, 08:09:42 AM
i would have mixed feelings. a little bit mad that they are scamming people

No one is saying scam. I think offering a market that is clearly labeled isn't comparable to someone trying to pass off testnets to someone trying to buy Bitcoin.

a little bit sad that idiots exist (both those who created the market and those participating  in it)

Seems kinda rude  Tongue... testnet is cryptocurrency too.  Why can this be the "world currency" and this be worthless, but they are basically the same thing? That makes no sense to me.

Mining power is 99% pushed by greed.  I would bet that testnet gets more stable for people using it when there is more mining power behind it and I bet a market leads to mining power.  Thus making testnet better and easier to use for Testers... Example:  You could rent mining power and easily point it at a service to mine testnet. (I'm aware you could set up your own P2Pool, but it would be a 3 minute task if Testnet had any infrastructure.)  I'm sure there are better examples of why having a solid testing infrastructure could be beneficial, I'm just tired and that was a problem I faced recently.

I don't think coins like Dogecoin would even be a thing if Bitcoin Testnet was done "right".  I'm not 100% sure though.

because it would mean the days of Testnet3 are numbered and it signals move to TestNet4.

That makes it even more exciting kind of tbh... it's like a hot potato!

If stuff shifts to TestNet4 then so would the crowd.  Seems like some additional risk to make it exciting.

it would be even nicer if people who aren't competent in programming and are unfamiliar with bitcoin stopped creating applications, so they won't need any coins to test those applications with in first place.

Haha, I'm sure hacks have happened because of a decimal missed here or there... if people can only test with dust, I could see this as an issue.

Plus, it's good for the imagination to see your application work with large numbers of coins if that what you intend it to do... rather than just be a dust bowl.

It should be noted that I am not a coder... I am, however, fairly familiar with Bitcoin.

Sidenote: Even Pokerstar has an option for buying play chips.

Yikes, one person says they would be 10/10 mad!  The majority of votes have voted that they don't care... which is kind of what I expected.
918  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: On a scale 1-10: How mad would you be to see a Bitcoin/Bitcoin Testcoin market? on: November 10, 2020, 01:44:05 PM
Just to answer your question:

Why would I be mad or upset about it? As long as it's not mainly being used for scamming, then why not if there's demand for it? Even if I personally don't need it, but if it makes the lives of some people like you better, then why not?

I agree with this... as long as she's got warning labels all over here too.
919  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][GAP] Gapcoin - Prime Gap Search - New Math Algo - CPU / GPU - Zero Premine on: November 10, 2020, 02:31:27 AM
I for one, would rather raise 0.05 BTC to help Graham (and others) with development efforts ...
Given the persistent general reluctance of hodlers to fund the block explorer, I can't see anything like that happening. I may be cynical but I get the sense that even publishing a donation address would simply be an invitation to a disappointment that I'd prefer not to make tangible.

Cheers

Graham

I feel like Redman when someone asks for a fee to do something that makes their service better...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTNl5QAO9WQ

I've paid in the past, but it never works out well.  It's similar to buying "Netflix" with Bitcoin.  It works while it works and then poof!
920  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-11-06] US authorities seize $1 billion in bitcoins on: November 10, 2020, 02:24:28 AM
I would imagine/bet these are Mongooses Bitcoins that he got from proving himself as worth a shit. Tongue

You don't just make suggestions and get listened to in those "industries"... I think you do something that kinda makes a name for yourself.

I bet the nasty secret was Mongoose lifted some coins from Ross and helped Ross patch the problem.  That's how they got acquainted probably. (I do not know, just guessing)

Now Mongoose is negotiating and it looks like negotiations are going well because it's "hacker x" and not Roger Clark.   Tongue
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