That is only a reflection if all things remain constant which never will. If every MN owner was dumping coins they were magically creating it would tank the market. I don't think you ever comprehended that statement, and by the looks of it, you never will.
You are correct, if all the investors wanted to remove their Masternode investments (MN block rewards), the price would decease while the dumping is occurring... |
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I'd be willing to bet that it's on purpose.
I'll take the bet... who's doing it on purpose  the PointlessOne Conspiracy uncovered I doubt you're that naive. This "profit" word slinging has been mentioned before.
But if you are that naive, I hope the investors (if any) that read your postings realize that it all should be taken with a grain of salt.
Here's my ION data for the bet...   |
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I'd be willing to bet that it's on purpose.
I'll take the bet... who's doing it on purpose the PointlessOne Conspiracy uncovered |
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Really show me the maths
Really fun to watch how shills who failed to show a shred of "maths" for any of their opportunity/vision/etc are demanding it of others. Like that "show me your masternode" bullshit too. How about we start with you korvas. Show us the math of why ionomy is such a great "opportunity". I'm guess he will either ignore this post or somehow attack your character or write something that has nothing to do with your post. But I sure would love to see the maths. How about this korvas, show us the maths that were used to calculate the ICO price. Also, show us the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month. I don't mind responding any delay is down to me being busy... You want me to show you how the ICO price was calculated...... Why do you need to know that ? and anyway I'm not an Ionomy employee You want me to show you the maths that made the team think they could pump out one game per month. You know the answer to this question but choose to ignore so I'm not repeating common knowledge plus I don't understand where the maths come in Why do I want to know the maths for the ICO? Cause I fuckingg asked it in the slack channel in the beginning, said they'd get back and didn't. I also asked on here, but I guess back then it wasn't cool to answer questions. And I know the team switched gears with the games (after the got their ICO funds. And newcomers would t know this as it still says 1 game per month on the website. False advertising much?) but what reasoning did the use to figure on one game per month? Why would one ask said question? Shows a lot about the competence and management of the team. Which is EXTREMELY important before investing in ION as gaming is the core of ION. Personally, I thought it was a half decent idea, if executed properly. I enjoy animation and modeling. I was kinda interested. But the side stepping of questions and trolling on their part turned me off. The slack channel reminded me of an old gentlemans club. If you weren't part of it your weren't really worth putting much effort towards. Maybe things have changed now, I don't pay attention too much. But in the beginning it was rather apparent that they didn't want outsiders and they had something to prove. But after interacting with you and WildShill, I wouldnt spend a single portion of a USD into ION, other than my converted, just as worthless XPY. 1 XPY today is worth $0.02. Ionomy gave you a chance to convert and you did. You've made a big profit and your unhappy, How many XPY did you convert ? ? I'd honestly love to hear your logic on the matter. @CyberBuds It would be a a step closer to having a real discussion if you showed us your math for the profit/loss you have made with your ION Masternode? remember the MN that you were having troubles with daily maintenance Is your investment holding currently in Dollars, PayCoin, BTC or IONs? |
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We are waiting for the balloon to bust and then pick up some ETH or Litecoin with the stable ICO dollars or dollar profit from selling investment to support the buying of thenew underlying base currency for the altcoins.. Coinbase already supports this fiat functionality for both coins...
Except that you could have bought a lot more ETH / LTC earlier when it was cheap and if what you're saying turns out to be correct (BTC drops, ETH/LTC are the new "base") then ETH/LTC will be even more expensive in the future. Your bizarre dislike for BTC is noted but your "strategy" doesn't make any sense.
What's stopping the new "base" from happening at BTC Burst The market for them (ETH or Litecoin) is already in place at Coinbase... Will you be holding your BTC bags when the bubble bursts |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin.
That's fine. Either way, no USD was used. So stop shilling with USD values. All you are doing is misleading your marks. @CyptoBuds I used dollars at Coinbase to purchase my ION IOC coins... I will continue to use USD cause my information from the markets I and spreadsheet use USD scale. I have trouble with constant changing of value when using Bitcoin as value indicator... My ION promotional information is supported by the USD scale!
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And let's not talk about the $1500 per BTC they lost cause they decided to convert it to fiat, for a crypto project. Tell me why that made sense.
We are waiting for the balloon to bust and then pick up some ETH or Litecoin with the stable ICO dollars or dollar profit from selling investment to support the buying of thenew underlying base currency for the altcoins.. Coinbase already supports this fiat functionality for both coins... |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin. |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute... but no one paid $0.20 for their ION, they used bitcoin. So your point is invalid. For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents |
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Statements from you are fact (if it suits), fiction or something in between. One day you will realise that trolling the opportunity that Ion represents was one of the most foolish things you have ever done  You've had a year to explain the "opportunity" and thoroughly failed at that, feigning insider knowledge and various other increasingly ham-fisted excuses. I have a feeling that said "opportunity" might not exist. Such sad. tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? correct the current value is linked to BTC. After the burst, the apporiate amount of ETH or Litecoin will reflect the last USD price...
Uhm... you do realize that ION doesn't have an LTC or an ETH market, right? you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. The USD price is displayed by different ION services, marketcap and exchange. Each of these sources use different algo to determine the current USD value.
Oh dear... The "algo" is simple and exactly the same in each case. They take ION/BTC exchange rate and multiply it by the BTC/USD value. The latter may vary slightly depending on the source (Bittrex, Bitstamp, Coindesk, etc). Stop bullshitting, there is no magic ION-to-USD link that wouldn't depend on BTC. the link is the BTC/USD value you just mention. This link will be replace with ETH/Dollars or Litecoin/Dollars. Coinbase already supports this.... |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute[/color]... they could cash out immediately without tanking the market like you would with ION and retain at least x2 profit over ION. Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread in theAltcoin discussion area! and NOT a BTC thread? since you value in usd that bitcoin gained... if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? No
tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? correct the current value is linked to BTC. After the burst, the apporiate amount of ETH or Litecoin will reflect the last USD price...
you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. The USD price is displayed by different ION services, marketcap and exchange. Each of these sources use different algo to determine the current USD value.
You just admitted that ION is linked to BTC. So why the USD value then? you can just cash iON directly for USD, correct? I assume so since you always post the USD price. @CryptoBuds I go directly to dollar everyday using two exchanges. The number at the end is dollars in checkbook... there is only room for dollar entry !!! |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute[/color]... they could cash out immediately without tanking the market like you would with ION and retain at least x2 profit over ION. Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread in theAltcoin discussion area! and NOT a BTC thread? since you value in usd that bitcoin gained... if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? No
tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? correct the current value is linked to BTC. After the burst, the apporiate amount of ETH or Litecoin will reflect the last USD price...
you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. The USD price is displayed by different ION services, marketcap and exchange. Each of these sources use different algo to determine the current USD value.
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Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread and NOT a BTC thread? What is it with you and korvas... a statement of fact is not a prediction nor an advice. It's just a statement of fact: your constant shilling of the USD "profit" is masking the opportunity cost, especially since the opportunity was to simply do nothing vs. the whole clusterfuck of PNGs and failed games and all that gawsomeness. And Thanks.. I'm glad you approve of my promotional ION information... Chart shows the USD increase of the investment  https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ion/ |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute[/color]... they could cash out immediately without tanking the market like you would with ION and retain at least x2 profit over ION. Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread in theAltcoin discussion area! and NOT a BTC thread? |
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I see ION is now at rank 138 on coinmarketcap. Gawsome.
How are the monthly games coming along?
ICO'd last April 20 cents currently trading at 50 cents.... well done to those that ignored your advice a year ago and bought some ION Market Cap of $6.9M rank now 123...... Thanks for highlighting ION's potential of exponential growth Just wondering though........ do you like cake ? you said you were using sats now you are saying $. what was ico sat price and what is it now? No I never...... I don't mind using sats but without looking it up I cannot remember the sats price. Notice though for my 7 day prediction I've gone with $.75 or 71k sats. I thought price was irrelevant to you (currently). Why are you still talking about the price? Would you like me to no longer talk about price ? let's talk about the 24hr Volume that is increasing Is IONs now shiny in the crypto market?  |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute... |
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UP, DOWN or FLAT...... I'll go first and predict UP.... you ?
it's dropped to 0.00017202
I bow to your impeccable market research, industry analysis, and price prediction. Do you have any other wacko bullshit ionomy visions to share with us today? I thought price was irrelevant. Or relevant. I forget which the current narrative is. Good to see they've changed the name of 'To The Moon' to 'The Moon Or Bust' and released a trailer which contains all of no gameplay footage. Another sure fire hit on the way (for 30 people) in about six months, then. Okay as you and suchmoon are trying to set me up for a fall.... Let's play  In the next 7 days ION will be at a minimum of $.5 or .00023 BTC and stay there. This prediction is just based on the recent inflation drop and people starting to figure out that currently compared to owning a DASH node owning an ION node is a much better deal and a breeze to setup. Once you factor in everything else happening in the land of Ionomy you'll see that this is me playing it safe. It would be good to have yours or Suchmoon's prediction but I can understand if you don't want to play, predicting the future is much harder than predicting the past. I guess yesterdays rise which peaked at $.6 was due to another BTC price rise.. When I said 1 week I meant 1 day I misspoke So On the basis of a rumour that Suchmoon and myself could secretly be friends I will change my prediction to.... In the next 7 days Ion will hit a min price of $.75 or 71k sats. I'm not as optimistic as Korvas128.. The market is holding in the 50s and will hover there this week to gain traction..  |
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Are you trying to say that volume is not an issue with ION? It's quite pathetic considering the 20k+ ION daily inflation and 300+ masternodes. ThePointlessOne has a good point there. The market would tank (and has tanked in the last few weeks) if someone tries to take any decent amount of that hypothetical "profit" you and Sharkie keep shilling about.
I agree with you that the profit post I was reporting on has disappeared and don't have the facts to support it... Here's a current look at a big ION investor pushing the price into the 50's with very nice volume
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Using your example, option 1 would produce the least amount of money.... When the Bitcoin Balloon Bursts, the BTC will be of no money value.. Just the broken dreams of being rich by holding BTC!!! Will you be holding your bags when the burst happens
2) currently walking away with 75-100% profit converted to USD... not bad money for ROI of PNGs (Ionomy LTD stakers) You seem to be projecting. I don't have "dreams of being rich by holding BTC". And if you think it's gonna burst you could dump it for USD today and you would still have gained more USD over the last year compared to this whole ionomy clusterfuck. I gotta give it to you though - you're consistently defiant of math, facts, or anything else that gets in the way of your shilling. Yours skills of predicting the past are indeed impressive How are your skills of predicting the future  UP, DOWN or FLAT...... I'll go first and predict UP.... you ? @suchmoon I don't shill, I work hard everyday at better promoting with facts. 24 Volume is UP and USD price is still going sideways with slight increase...
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Ok Sharkie, let's take two hypothetical "PayCoin investors": 1) One who dumped his/her Paycoins at any point before ION and held on to his/her BTC. 2) One who converted his/her Paycoins into IONs. Which one has more money now? I go with what is in box 2.. XPY was selling for 5-6k sat in March 2016 (the lowest point before ION). 1) so back then 1000 XPY would have been worth ~0.05-0.06 BTC... 2) ... or 125 ION at 18k sat today, i.e. 0.0225 BTC. Maybe as much as 0.03-ish, if you want to brag about various PNGs. Using your example, option 1 would produce the least amount of money.... When the Bitcoin Balloon Bursts, the BTC will be of no money value.. Just the broken dreams of being rich by holding BTC!!! Will you be holding your bags when the burst happens
2) currently walking away with 75-100% profit converted to USD... not bad money for ROI of PNGs (Ionomy LTD stakers) |
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