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May 24, 2017, 09:18:00 PM Last edit: May 24, 2017, 09:28:25 PM by WildShark |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute[/color]... If investors of ION would have kept it in BTC they could cash out immediately without tanking the market like you would with ION and retain at least x2 profit over ION. Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread in theAltcoin discussion area! and NOT a BTC thread? since you value in usd that bitcoin gained... if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. if btc bubble bursts usd value of ion tanks will you then switch to sat value? No
tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? correct the current value is linked to BTC. After the burst, the apporiate amount of ETH or Litecoin will reflect the last USD price...
you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. The USD price is displayed by different ION services, marketcap and exchange. Each of these sources use different algo to determine the current USD value.
You just admitted that ION is linked to BTC. So why the USD value then? you can just cash iON directly for USD, correct? I assume so since you always post the USD price. @CryptoBuds I go directly to dollar everyday using two exchanges. The number at the end is dollars in checkbook... there is only room for dollar entry !!!
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WildShark
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May 24, 2017, 09:38:12 PM |
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Statements from you are fact (if it suits), fiction or something in between. One day you will realise that trolling the opportunity that Ion represents was one of the most foolish things you have ever done You've had a year to explain the "opportunity" and thoroughly failed at that, feigning insider knowledge and various other increasingly ham-fisted excuses. I have a feeling that said "opportunity" might not exist. Such sad. tell me if ion isnt linked to btc where is the usd value coming from? correct the current value is linked to BTC. After the burst, the apporiate amount of ETH or Litecoin will reflect the last USD price...
Uhm... you do realize that ION doesn't have an LTC or an ETH market, right? you do realise that bittrex usd value is the sat price in usd not ions actual usd right? ive got a feeling you dont know this and think its seperate. The USD price is displayed by different ION services, marketcap and exchange. Each of these sources use different algo to determine the current USD value.
Oh dear... The "algo" is simple and exactly the same in each case. They take ION/BTC exchange rate and multiply it by the BTC/USD value. The latter may vary slightly depending on the source (Bittrex, Bitstamp, Coindesk, etc). Stop bullshitting, there is no magic ION-to-USD link that wouldn't depend on BTC. the link is the BTC/USD value you just mention. This link will be replace with ETH/Dollars or Litecoin/Dollars. Coinbase already supports this....
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May 24, 2017, 10:01:12 PM |
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the link is the BTC/USD value you just mention. This link will be replace with ETH/Dollars or Litecoin/Dollars. Coinbase already supports this....
Except you can't dump your IONs for ETH or LTC. You seem to be adding another hoop to jump through just so you could avoid quoting ION price in BTC. Guess what, ION price in ETH or LTC is even more depressing... check the exchange rates a year ago and today.
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May 25, 2017, 12:37:35 AM Last edit: May 25, 2017, 02:44:19 AM by CryptoBuds |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
And let's not talk about the $1500 per BTC they lost cause they decided to convert it to fiat, for a crypto project. Tell me why that made sense.
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WildShark
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May 25, 2017, 02:52:51 AM |
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It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents left. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable currency on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute... but no one paid $0.20 for their ION, they used bitcoin. So your point is invalid. For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents
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May 25, 2017, 02:57:31 AM Last edit: May 25, 2017, 03:33:02 AM by WildShark |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin.
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May 25, 2017, 03:10:09 AM Last edit: May 25, 2017, 03:33:47 AM by WildShark |
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And let's not talk about the $1500 per BTC they lost cause they decided to convert it to fiat, for a crypto project. Tell me why that made sense.
We are waiting for the balloon to bust and then pick up some ETH or Litecoin with the stable ICO dollars or dollar profit from selling investment to support the buying of thenew underlying base currency for the altcoins.. Coinbase already supports this fiat functionality for both coins...
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May 25, 2017, 03:30:24 AM |
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Very interesting for the gamers, in addition to being able to play games can also for developers, krypto fans and even investors .. I hope many of these projects will run smoothly and successfully ..
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May 25, 2017, 04:16:19 AM |
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This is from the same scammers that did EDON. Be careful.
Can you mention some evidence that this is a scam?
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May 25, 2017, 05:55:39 AM |
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And let's not talk about the $1500 per BTC they lost cause they decided to convert it to fiat, for a crypto project. Tell me why that made sense.
We are waiting for the balloon to bust and then pick up some ETH or Litecoin with the stable ICO dollars or dollar profit from selling investment to support the buying of thenew underlying base currency for the altcoins.. Coinbase already supports this fiat functionality for both coins... so cashing at $1100 or whatever was smart so yhey can get eth? you're being foolish. you do realise btc is king. when it drops the alts eth included will drop! people will cash out alts to btc as the btc/usd drops. eth, ltc, ion, etc will all drop, the markets proportional. you're being stubborn wildshark and telling lies, you're acting like ion can make no mistakes and is infallible. you constantly change angles when things drop hopeful to deny there is any drop. you honestly should not be trusted being so misleading
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May 25, 2017, 08:39:26 AM |
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wildshark an honest question and answer truthfully. are you going to just use whatever pathway you see as highest to justify ions value?
ie do you have a main underpinning value or are you just shilling highest value at the time? curious cause it explains a lor about you? also are you able to confirm that any price listed doesnt mean your entire value can be cashed at that. care to add a range or avg with your prices? for cash out of say 100btc
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May 25, 2017, 09:08:19 AM |
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Fundamentals, retention & revenue. Nice words on there own but without any context the words are just fluff...... BTC bubble burst...... a comment to position yourself as being knowledgeable. When is the BTC bubble going to burst ??...... you don't have a clue but when it does burst your going to claim you saw it coming brilliant You remind me very much of someone who said all the right things positioning themselves as a real crypto expert...... this person will soon be going to jail The context is that Gravity user retention is pitiful (~40 players out of 10k+ downloads) and revenue is even more so (1300 ION bought back so far). Does that help? As for the bubble, your reading comprehension failed you again. I wasn't trying to predict anything, and I wasn't even talking about "BTC bubble" but rather altcoin market. Merely pointing out that ION underperforms the market and wondering if you expect a miracle when the bubble bursts, whenever that happens. You sound a bit desperate though, what with photoshopping words into my mouth and all. It seems on Slack they don't understand profit either. "People bought at $0.20-$0.25 USD and now it is at $0.50 USD, they doubled their profits!".
@CryptoBuds 'll make it easy for you... You are walking home with 50 cents... Your initial investment was 25 cents. Take 25 cents away from the initial investment and you have 25 cents. You have doubled your investment! Their is no profit until the coin is exchanged to Fiat! But if they would look at the satoshis, the would realize they would have more or the same if they just kept their BTC. I guess they use the monetary format that makes things look rosey.
Your statement is not applicable because this investment is IONs (not BTC) and value over time (USD price) is usually used because the dollar's value remains stable on daily basis and value of the satoshis varies by the minute... Y'all paycoiners never cease to amaze me with your affinity for elaborate schemes to lose money. Someone takes your BTC and gives 50% back and you hail it as "profit". I don't understand........ does your feeling refer to ION, IONOMY or everything I have a feeling that said "opportunity" might not exist. Such sad.
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May 25, 2017, 09:52:02 AM |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin. That's fine. Either way, no USD was used. So stop shilling with USD values. All you are doing is misleading your marks.
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May 25, 2017, 09:54:01 AM |
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This is from the same scammers that did EDON. Be careful.
Can you mention some evidence that this is a scam? Can you provide evidence it isn't a scam? They operate with zero transparency, so it's impossible for you to do so. Me personally, I don't think it's a scam. I think it's a horribly mismanaged projects that is moved along by its core cheerleaders. Said cheerleaders believe the team can do no wrong. This means no one is critical of the team and they are free to fuck up all they want. The still got their cheerleaders to tell them they're awesome. The cheerleaders feel that kissing the teams ass will take care of them when the team is rich. I've never seen some more pathetic ass kissers than this group of investors. Sadly, because of the whales lack of being critical, this project will never be anything more than a circle jerk of paycoiners telling the team they are awesome at every misstep (and there are a LOT of these). But brand new account person, cheer on. I'm sure the team loves it and I'm sure they'll shower you with ION when you go back to slack and tell them you messed with the BCT "trolls". MrCoins will praise you on and on. Hell, you may even be MrCoins himself. You Ionites love your shell games and deception, so who knows.
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May 25, 2017, 10:28:50 AM |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin. That's fine. Either way, no USD was used. So stop shilling with USD values. All you are doing is misleading your marks. USD is a simple point of reference that everyone is familiar with. Why do you think Bittrex quote USD values ? are Bittrex misleading their marks too
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May 25, 2017, 10:58:05 AM |
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This is from the same scammers that did EDON. Be careful.
Can you mention some evidence that this is a scam? Can you provide evidence it isn't a scam? They operate with zero transparency, so it's impossible for you to do so. Me personally, I don't think it's a scam. I think it's a horribly mismanaged projects that is moved along by its core cheerleaders. Said cheerleaders believe the team can do no wrong. This means no one is critical of the team and they are free to fuck up all they want. The still got their cheerleaders to tell them they're awesome. The cheerleaders feel that kissing the teams ass will take care of them when the team is rich. I've never seen some more pathetic ass kissers than this group of investors. Sadly, because of the whales lack of being critical, this project will never be anything more than a circle jerk of paycoiners telling the team they are awesome at every misstep (and there are a LOT of these). But brand new account person, cheer on. I'm sure the team loves it and I'm sure they'll shower you with ION when you go back to slack and tell them you messed with the BCT "trolls". MrCoins will praise you on and on. Hell, you may even be MrCoins himself. You Ionites love your shell games and deception, so who knows. Your being ridiculous.... Don't know where you live but I thankfully live in a country in which the rule of law is innocent until proven guilty. I know for a fact that you groom then sexually abuse sheep !!!, prove to me this is not true. Why should you need to prove anything. Why should you need to prove your sexual orientation isn't with the animal kingdom...... see ridiculous
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May 25, 2017, 11:46:50 AM |
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This is from the same scammers that did EDON. Be careful.
Can you mention some evidence that this is a scam? Can you provide evidence it isn't a scam? They operate with zero transparency, so it's impossible for you to do so. Me personally, I don't think it's a scam. I think it's a horribly mismanaged projects that is moved along by its core cheerleaders. Said cheerleaders believe the team can do no wrong. This means no one is critical of the team and they are free to fuck up all they want. The still got their cheerleaders to tell them they're awesome. The cheerleaders feel that kissing the teams ass will take care of them when the team is rich. I've never seen some more pathetic ass kissers than this group of investors. Sadly, because of the whales lack of being critical, this project will never be anything more than a circle jerk of paycoiners telling the team they are awesome at every misstep (and there are a LOT of these). But brand new account person, cheer on. I'm sure the team loves it and I'm sure they'll shower you with ION when you go back to slack and tell them you messed with the BCT "trolls". MrCoins will praise you on and on. Hell, you may even be MrCoins himself. You Ionites love your shell games and deception, so who knows. Your being ridiculous.... Don't know where you live but I thankfully live in a country in which the rule of law is innocent until proven guilty. I know for a fact that you groom then sexually abuse sheep !!!, prove to me this is not true. Why should you need to prove anything. Why should you need to prove your sexual orientation isn't with the animal kingdom...... see ridiculous Awe, is hims upset cause I talked bad about the whales? Did all those pointless words make you feel better? Instead of addressing the points you attacked my character. What logical fallacy is that again? Let's talk about character LeoC. How's all the people doing that you scammed in the past?
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May 25, 2017, 11:47:45 AM |
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Did the team accept USD for the ICO? Don't think so. They took a bunch of BTC. Does Bittrex take USD for ION? Don't think so. So no IONs were purchased with USD, so stop bragging about these massive gains in whatever currency makes it look the best. IONs were purchased with BTC, so be honest and quote that price.
For ION ICO, There were about 25 altcoins coins that were used to purchase the ION. Everyone paying a value of 20 cents. The different coins were exchanged and credited BTC to Ionomy LTD. These investors didn't purchase with Bitcoin. That's fine. Either way, no USD was used. So stop shilling with USD values. All you are doing is misleading your marks. USD is a simple point of reference that everyone is familiar with. Why do you think Bittrex quote USD values ? are Bittrex misleading their marks too Bittrex isn't using the USD value to make their coin look good. Hell, Bittrex doesn't even have their own coin. Try again.
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May 25, 2017, 12:40:23 PM |
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Is this your investment advice for ION investor? a wish done in the past? if they kept their BTC Will you be holding your BTC bags when the burst happens I don't think you caught the hint that this was an very long ION thread and NOT a BTC thread? What is it with you and korvas... a statement of fact is not a prediction nor an advice. It's just a statement of fact: your constant shilling of the USD "profit" is masking the opportunity cost, especially since the opportunity was to simply do nothing vs. the whole clusterfuck of PNGs and failed games and all that gawsomeness. And Thanks.. I'm glad you approve of my promotional ION information... Chart shows the USD increase of the investment https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ion/Thanks WildShark for proving that you're even too stupid to understand the meaning of the term "opportunity cost".
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May 25, 2017, 12:45:42 PM |
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I see ION is now at rank 138 on coinmarketcap. Gawsome. How are the monthly games coming along?
ICO'd last April 20 cents currently trading at 50 cents.... well done to those that ignored your advice a year ago and bought some ION Market Cap of $6.9M rank now 123...... Thanks for highlighting ION's potential of exponential growth Just wondering though........ do you like cake ? No, korvas128, "well done" to those who bought bitcoins instead, because that made a lot more sense and money. Fuck your "cake" and your gawsome Paycoin scam successor ION (which is not even in the top 100 of the shitcoin charts anymore).
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