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9021  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2017, 05:48:06 PM
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/#markets

half a billion usd volume in Korean won in 24h...

@all the BTCgold lovers : can someone please explain why it is going to be free money? I see the magic word ICO on their forum

https://cointelegraph.com/news/suddenly-bitcoin-gpu-hard-fork-could-give-bitcoiners-more-free-money

seems they'll fork off the old chain in the same way as bcash did, on a particular block, so all btc holders become btcg holders in the same amount.
9022  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gmo.jp%2Fnews%2Farticle%2F%3Fid%3D5775&edit-text=&authuser=0

https://bitsonline.com/japan-gmo-bitcoin-mining/

some more competition for Jihan?
9023  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2017, 01:03:04 PM

botstamp fight. up? down! up? down! etc.
9024  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2017, 12:51:55 PM
How the fuck are RogerBucks up 15% over the last 24 hours.

Lunacy !

Customers can walk up to the banking teller-like service counters and receive support from counselors one-on-one. The exchange expects the face-to-face consultation model to provide more rapid and in-depth customer service and increase customer satisfaction.

https://news.bitcoin.com/bithumb-walk-in-customer-service-center-unprecedented-growth/
These kids might even persuade me to buy ethereum, i dunno
9025  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 07, 2017, 08:23:58 AM
Aren't you ignoring the fact that the  two previous bubbles were artificialy made by MtGox?
After Gox closed the price just went down to where it should have been, and would have been, had there never been a MtGox.
Now hold on a minute, let's flesh this out.  You believe the Willy bot produced the 2013 spikes?  What is your basis for this?
I don't know exactly how Marc did it.
But the price on Gox was alway higher than on all other exchanges, making all other follow. And when gox went away, so did the bubbles.
My guess would be that he just made the figures up, Willys part in that is unknown to me.

Way back, Peter Rizun occasionally made sense https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497289.0 Peter R Rizun’s Theory on the Collapse of Mt. Gox
-story has changed a bit over time but the Willy part is accurate enough:

...
And so Willy was born.  Willy was a bot, discovered by Wall Observers from bitcointalk.org and named by Opet on Bonavest's trading show, who would consistently purchased[sic] bitcoins at regular intervals between November 2013 and February 2014.  Evidence that Willy belonged to Mark was revealed when both web and API trading at Gox was disabled for a brief period of time, exposing Willy as the only one left buying.  

Willy served two purposes: he drove the price of bitcoin on the MtGox exchange high, thereby slowing and sometimes reversing the outward flow of real BTC, and he reduced the number of GoxBTC held by clients.  Of course, this meant that Willy eventually became the owner of a huge number of GoxBTC (that were of course no longer backed by real BTC).  
...
He shifted Willy into reverse and cranked the throttle.  Willy relentlessly dumped bitcoins into the open bids.  The price fell further and further, eventually dropping well below the BitStamp price[1].  But still not enough people were buying!  He needed his customers to buy the GoxBTC.  Willy kept dumping coins until finally the price dropped below $100.
...

Incidentally this[1] is one of the main refutations (whether correct or not idk) recently of anti-Tether/Bitfinex fud: no great price disparity between Finex and the other Stamps.
9026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: S2xcoin: Why Mommy Garzik want see my peepee? Skry to Bloq to Segwit2x on: September 07, 2017, 08:06:49 AM
http://nob2x.org/
lotsa brokers and exchanges no wantee barry's stinking 2x
9027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 09:54:48 PM
wow testing private blockchains https://www.scribd.com/document/358181061/Ecb-stella-Project-Report-September-2017
tl;dr they don't work duh
9028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 09:09:45 PM
yeah...that one...



ooh I say

and was just about to say BobLawblaw seems to know a thing or 2 about all that
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=114329.msg18783000#msg18783000

JOSHUA ZERLAN,
Serve: Joshua Zerlan 26163 W 108th Terrace Olathe, KS 66061
Defendants.
Cause No. Division No.
PLAINTIFF DEMANDS  TRIAL BY JURY

COMPLAINT

Plaintiff Marc Bevand brings this Complaint for violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (“RICO”), breach of contract, unjust enrichment, conversion and violation of the Missouri Merchandising Practices Act (“MMPA”) against Defendants BF Labs, Inc. d/b/a Butterfly Labs, Sonny Vleisides, Darla Jo Drake a/k/a Jody Drake, Jeff Ownby, and Joshua Zerlan (collectively (“Defendants”).

NATURE OF THE ACTION

1. Plaintiff seeks recovery of the purchase price and consequential damages for Bitcoin mining machines Plaintiff purchased from Defendants but which Plaintiff never received, and for which Plaintiff never received a refund, despite multiple promises of a refund over several years.

2. This suit also seeks treble damages and attorneys’ fees under RICO for Defendants’ illegal scheme to obtain customers’ money by making fraudulent statements via mail, wire, and the internet, omitting and concealing material information in order to induce customers to make pre-payments for non-existent Bitcoin mining equipment, failing to ship Bitcoin mining equipment orders for which Plaintiff pre-paid, profiting from Bitcoin mining for Defendants’ own benefit using Plaintiff’s equipment without permission or authorization from Plaintiff, and retaining both the prepayments and the equipment ordered by Plaintiff without providing a refund.
9029  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 08:58:32 PM
all the while hating him for mining for a month before sending them their rigs.

I know the feeling...

What ever happened to that Josh motherfucker anyway?

so many Josh motherfuckers in that game.

guess you mean the butterfly labs one? idk sorry
9030  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 08:47:15 PM

Lol yes. N Korea was the first nation state reported by the MSM to be mining bitcoin.
No Roger has connections all round the Far East, can pump bch at the exchanges and at this conference mentioned^.
also Wu is a bit of a god it seems to lotsa Chinese miners - they do as he says - all the while hating him for mining for a month before sending them their rigs.
9031  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 08:38:16 PM

BCH pumping pretty hard today.
I hope that means Roger is losing money...
Maybe the opposite.

Then who be pumping  Huh

Oh. I thought he meant 'Roger's making money by pumping'. No?


Who else would buy this shit if not Roger and his friends?

The daft Korean newbs
9032  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 08:34:27 PM

tl;dr - Ver/Wu falsely support opponents of Bitcoin with a "better" coin that is doomed to fail from the start, while pumping opponents money into Bitcoin, and giving Bitcoin a real world, live quality assurance test that proves Bitcoin's resiliency.

[sic]

you are right that they proved Bitcoin's resilience, but this was only inadvertent.
as to their support being false, it's possible but imnvho unlikely.
neither is really that clever, although Wu was great at getting the asic rig manufacturing done.
I get this mostly from watching the recent videos of them both - Ver/Heart and Wu/deRose. edit: Theo Goodman
Also confirmed by the Chinese miners vid the other day.


BCH pumping pretty hard today.
I hope that means Roger is losing money...
Maybe the opposite.

Then who be pumping  Huh

Oh. I thought he meant 'Roger's making money by pumping'. No?
9033  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 05:44:51 PM

it takes less than a grand to pump that ole girl up, so why not? may as well.
also they've got a scamference coming up where Jihan's gonna pump it some more, so they need it not to die just yet.
When is this wonderful free money event due to take place?
20-21/09 http://bitkan.com/event?from=bitkanen#features
other conferences with fewer scammers are available
9034  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 05:27:49 PM
9035  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 05:20:45 PM

@BTCbenny
9036  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 04:40:43 PM

it takes less than a grand to pump that ole girl up, so why not? may as well.
also they've got a scamference coming up where Jihan's gonna pump it some more, so they need it not to die just yet.
9037  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 11:23:32 AM
https://medium.com/provoost-on-crypto/historical-bitcoin-core-client-performance-c5f16e1f8ccb
Quote from: Sjors Provoost
I managed to compile even older versions, down to 0.5 from late 2011. Unfortunately they either crashed or grinded[sic] to a halt when they reached blocks from around mid 2015. I’m not sure what caused the old clients to fail
http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html works
9038  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 10:45:33 AM

city-states entirely self-funded by their own floats of a bitcoin sidechain crypto-currency?

genuine lol. yes, something like that. Tahiti!
9039  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 10:43:04 AM
9040  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 06, 2017, 10:36:24 AM
Nice Article on BTC by Seeking Alpha:

Why Bitcoin Is The Investment Of The Decade
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4104272-bitcoin-investment-decade

Argues for a mid 2018 value of $6000



from same fishwrap https://seekingalpha.com/article/4104085-bitcoin-will-made-illegal-tender

'argues'
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