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9101  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: February 03, 2016, 12:29:18 AM
If the Bern gets elected it will be a testament to how thoroughly brainwashed the american people are by the liberal controlled media.

Less government is the answer, not free stuff.
Right.   They get what they want - eight years of Obama socialism, and it doesn't work too well.

SO, WE NEED MORE INTENSE SOCIALISM!  YEAH BUDDY!  THAT'S THE SOLUTION!

Or we need LESS.

But, hey I really can sympathize with hard core libbies that think of themselves as DEMIOs...

And they look at that lying Hillary bitch, and they say..."Got to be something better...somewhere...please help me...I'm drowning..."

Okay, so be practical (inside the warped circus world) and go for the stooped over, washed up old white geezer.

But who said you got to run around dazzle eyed like a backstage groupie with Jimi Hendrix?
9102  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: February 03, 2016, 12:06:18 AM
You are trying to propagage a meme about a political candidate using classical Communist and Socialist buzz words and slang.

...

Bernie is neither a Communist nor a Socialist... he's a "Democratic Socialist"....[/b]

ROFL...

What kind of glue have you been sniffing?

It's a politician, you know...

It's....

"Free stuff!  I'll get you free stuff!"

...coming from an old, washed out, stooped over old white guy...
SPENDY THIS IS FOR YOU MY FRIEND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKYYvJ0cRvc
That's good.


Saddam you are the most crazy racist I have ran across and have this bizarre way of getting it right often enough to earn respect.  That's great. 

I still am curious about WTF is FEEL THE BERN?

Would we have said "Feel the Nixon?"
How about "Feel the Palin?"
For our friends in South Africa, "Feel the Shaka Zulu?"
How about our Palestine friends (and enemies) "Feel the Arafat?"
Feel the Sadam Hussain?
Feel the Ayatolah?
Feel the Bush?

Well, you get it....  That I'm really just not "Getting it."  So will someone explain to me?
9103  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 02, 2016, 11:16:48 PM
Which make me come back to my original point.... Where is Michael Moore lying?

It seems he's perfectly right no?

And I'm seeing a HUGE problem with the fact that more or less anyone can sell firearms and bullets to more or less anybody Oo

What is the huge problem other than you knee jerk conditioning to associate guns with violence? Do you think that way every time you see a knife or do you think ham sandwich? Just because you have never had a ham sandwich doesn't make the knife only for violence.

I'm no longer arguing with you dude, you're just ignoring the parts of my speech that are troublesome for you.

Wanna know what I think is a problem? I think there is a huge correlation between gun freedom and the incredible high violent crimes rate of your country. And I see no really good point in gun liberty as you're not protected from anything, neither banks nor rapes. Again I brought to you stats making those points.
No.  Not unless you can try to articulate logical arguments better than has been evident so for.

Stating "I think" or "I see" is not evidence, and what "stats you have brought" seem to have had their horses shot out from under them.
9104  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Arm Yourselves, we're going on a crusade on: February 02, 2016, 11:08:34 PM
the alternative right wants to stop Muslims... by turning Europe in a White Christian version of the Middle East. No rights for women, oppressed minorities and all kind of Arab-like stuff.
are there any hard rules when you make things up?

for example, the first letters of your fantasy above start...

B T E I A W C V...

Is that a requirement, and then anything can be plugged in, no matter how ridiculous?
9105  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: February 02, 2016, 10:56:53 PM
You may say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one...

Maybe some day you will join us, and the world will live as one
Then again, maybe some day you will join clear thinking realists, and the world will live as one.

Please explain something.  What is this Bern you feel?  Obviously it is not the flabby stooped old man.  Obviously it is not sparkling intellectuality, as that he does not have.

I conclude that as with many good politicians, this guy has the ability to cause you and others to objectify your own internal concept of utopia and project it onto him.  Such that when you feel the Bern, you are feeling your own visions and utopias and happy happy happy.

What is that, then?

9106  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Every US taxpayer is now $1 million in debt on: February 02, 2016, 12:48:26 PM
The US Federal government is now over $19 trillion in debt. That's over $158k per taxpayer.
The US Federal government's unfunded liabilities (things the government promised to give out in the future, think contracts with defense contractors, promised pensions, social security, medicaire, etc.) are over $100 trillion which is over $844k per taxpayer.
Every US taxpayer is now on the hook for over $1 million, just for the debts and future obligations of our government. That doesn't include the yearly expenses of roads, schools, military, etc.

In essence, if you are a US taxpayer, you are $1 million in debt to the US Federal government. As long as you are paying taxes, you will be paying that debt. Plus you are paying for current government programs.

I agree with you on this problem, but looking at future liabilities and backing them to the present is kind of like looking at the sum total in the present of all my school, house and car loans in the future.  It is future liabilities without offsetting future income streams.  In some cases, this skews the calculation.  For example, the rather disgusting practice of funding retirees' social security by current income would imply that it is an "expense," instead of future liability.  We don't like it, but that would be standard accounting practice.

Somewhat related - expect the US government to take over large segments of various consumer loan industries, bit by bit, just as they have the mortgage and college loan industries.  These are lucrative industries if you can print money...
9107  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 02, 2016, 12:37:36 PM
Who gives a fuck what the French think about our domestic laws? What are they going to do? Not call us for help again next time they get their asses kicked?

Dude if you don't want my opinion don't go on a thread named "your opinion on guns' control".
For the "not call us for help" part, yeah thanks when you see how you screwed us after I wonder if nazis were not better...
And I like it how WWII is the proof of French incapacity to protect themselves and American great heart but how Lafayette is forgotten.

I'll take the time to read your links later. But as I said and as you ignored, I apologized for the misunderstanding of the stats you provided. I can't really give you more than an apology. But it doesn't demonstrate your point as I was talking about violent crimes. Of course you could argue that "making a population safe" aso includes minor crimes like thefts. But guns won't increase thief, that's rather obvious there is no corelation between the two.

So I was talking about violent crimes rates and homicides. That's why I was talking about mass shootings.

And if my opinion offenses you, again don't go on a thread made for that or ignore me.
LOL, an opinion based on "facts" from Michael Moore is fundamentally insulting.

But go read some of the links and see what you think then.

Ok so I took the time to read PARTS of your link. Yeah parts because it's deep and heavy legislation text in English and sorry but I took some times to read what seemed important, I' to me so I might have omitted some things. If you're not happy with that then go read the whole French legislation to have an idea of how difficult it is for a non native English speaker ><

And... Well it perfectly confirms Michael Moore documentary sorry. I don't see any "propaganda" in what he made. The very basis of owning a firearm dealer license is "Is not prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition, nor in the case of a corporation, partnership, or association, is any individual possessing, directly or indirectly, the power to direct or cause the direction of the management and policies of the corporation, partnership, or association prohibited from shipping, transporting, receiving or possessing firearms or ammunition;"

So in short, not doing anything illegal. Which means that more or less any business can sell weapons and bullets if the local police force allows it.

I don't see the propaganda here. Again, I'm trying to be humble as I'm pretty sure I don't understood everything of the USA legislation, but all I see is an incredible freedom of firearms.
what the hell you talking about?  The specific rights acquired by someone getting the Federal Firearms License is to sell guns as a dealer.  It has nothing at all to do with the local police department.

This affirms several aspects of the right to possess guns as laid out in our constitution.

Not sure I understand your point then...

In what is Michael Moore wrong? Can't a barber sell guns if he gots the license? Doesn't it seem like totally crazy that more or less anyone can sell guns and anyone can buy some? Cause that's what I understood from your link ^^'
Assuming the barber passed the background check and paid the fees, then after his application for the FFL was approved, he could sell guns to people who passed their background checks.  Some states have more restrictive requirements, in which case the individual would also have to qualify for the requirements of his state.

Few people would see anything wrong with that.
9108  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli Woman Stabbed in West Bank Settlement Dies of Wounds on: February 02, 2016, 03:42:48 AM
^ Haters on all sides see things differently.


Terrorism and barbarian! Palestins are the same as ISIS, AL Shabab, AL Nusra..the islamic occupation of lands. But they won't deal easy with Israel for sure, tehy now how to fight with them and beat them. Killing innocent woman, they are cowards

Yes, that was cowardly. But I hope you say the same thing of Israel when it's them killing innocent Palestinian civilians.


Ah, the Moral Equivalency.

But you don't see continual propaganda about Evil Palestinians on this forum.

You see continual propaganda about Evil Jews.

And now you would like...civility....
9109  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: February 02, 2016, 03:38:04 AM
You are trying to propagage a meme about a political candidate using classical Communist and Socialist buzz words and slang.

...

Bernie is neither a Communist nor a Socialist... he's a "Democratic Socialist"....[/b]

ROFL...

What kind of glue have you been sniffing?

It's a politician, you know...

It's....

"Free stuff!  I'll get you free stuff!"

...coming from an old, washed out, stooped over old white guy...
9110  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 02, 2016, 03:35:49 AM
The reason is simple my friend, Hell greets Whites, Blacks and everything else in between with the exact same fervor.
Racism is a crime because all souls are just as exhilarating to torture. Hell simply cannot allow any single damned to claim it has a juicier soul than the rest.
Juicy souls?

Can we distill whiskey from that?

Or did the Irish, descended from Druids, figure this out?

Bottled spirits, they would say...
9111  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: February 02, 2016, 03:11:57 AM
I'm not saying that people should not protect themselves. But at the same time protection doesn't have to come in the shape of a AK-47 when going to buy bread. I wouldn't go to that store again if I saw a customer like that again. You can protect yourself with mace, a tazer or any other type of non-lethal weapon. You need to get out safe of that harmful situation, not to permanently put the attacker into the ground. At least that's my opinion.
This is an issue all to itself - lethality of force - how much and when?

Generally speaking, the answer is guns, not tasers or other types of non lethal weapons.

The reason is that if you must protect your life, or that of your loved ones, the non lethal options are not sufficiently reliable.  Take a look at youtube.  You will see people tasering themselves and showing that they can take it, same with stun guns and pepper spray.  These are better than nothing, but they are not a match for firearms for personal safety.

9112  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cameron says if you don’t learn English, you may be deported on: February 02, 2016, 03:07:12 AM
And I would love to see the figures of bits who live in France and Spain who can't speak one word of the local lingo.  I've certainly met enough.
WHAT are you smokin tonight?

What is figures of bits who live in....?

9113  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 02, 2016, 03:04:53 AM
So now ask yourself this are you a racist or is it because you are content with life..NO worries

I am racist as I am bigoted against racists.  The racists are a race of knuckle dragging lowbrow, flea and tick picking pea brained subhumans descended from inbreeding of lobsters and chickens.  We should eradicate this disease from the face of the earth and certainly not let racists wreak their worthless work.

9114  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Can you feel the Bern? on: February 02, 2016, 03:00:45 AM
Iowa is feeling the Bern....
Are you starting to feel the Bern?
No, I have no idea what you are talking about.  You are trying to propagage a meme about a political candidate using classical Communist and Socialist buzz words and slang.   I can summarize whatever the fuck you think the bern is, though.

"Free stuff!  I'll get you free stuff!"

But, the bern is an old, washed out, stooped over old white guy.  There's nothing there to feel about.

Why not feel about something real?
9115  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israeli Woman Stabbed in West Bank Settlement Dies of Wounds on: February 02, 2016, 02:58:02 AM

it is a very sad story... i pray for god to bring peace on this lands

Yes it is and I agree.

I'm sure all the posting Jew Haters see it a bit differently, though...
9116  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Rape Of Greece By Jewish Bankers on: February 02, 2016, 12:40:05 AM
It's terrible, also Greek sex workers are working now for a sandwich or 2 euros..What will happen to them in India..I heard about group raping there
I have never heard of group rape in Greece.  Of course now with the hundreds of thousands of Raping Refugees....
9117  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Racism is a real thing (this thread is extremely racist) on: February 01, 2016, 04:46:27 PM





straight haired, aryan nosed, light skinned, she is somewhat attractive precisely because she does NOT have negro facial features, you have made my point for me

Well, having spent some time in South Africa, I would disagree. 

There are outstandingly beautiful women among the blacks.  Just like almost anywhere, there are some.  To find a large percentage of women who qualify as beautiful, one might need to look at various Asian subgroups.

Also, in Africa there are many, many different "Tribes" or ethnic subgroups of blacks.  (I am not sure the phrase "blacks" translates correctly, it has specific meaning in South Africa.)
9118  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: February 01, 2016, 04:35:03 PM
From my perspective (as a non-US citizen) old Donald Trump is the embodiment of the "American Dream".
I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did end up taking the presidential election, He may very well have the white southern US vote.

Not entirely up to date on who the candidates are. But between Trump and the she-Clinton I'm not sure the country stands a chance.


Not just them...

 Smiley







http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/01/herman_cain_the_trump_phenomenon_is_winning_over_black_women.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAFj3ZiPJZk


http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/13/why-black-voters-should-pick-trump-not-hillary/






Rationally, black voters should definitely choose Trump over Hillary.  In practice, a lot vote a straight Dem ticket.

Hillary doesn't give a rat's ass about them.
9119  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drugs fuck you up, man on: February 01, 2016, 04:32:26 PM
Yeah, well, unfortunately....when you go down this road of estimating and validating harmful effects, you wind up exactly where we are now.  Except that we'd like to argue that certain drugs have been WRONGLY EVALUATED to have extremely harmful effects, so harmful that they should be criminalized.

I believe that one by one, those sanctions can be lifted.  Specific drugs, whose effects are well understood, one at a time.  That would solve 80-90 of the problem which might be as good as could be done.

But there couldn't ever be a blanket legalization of feel-goods because in many cases their harmful effects might not be known or fully evaluated.  Plus new ones will arise and often.

OK you've lost me now, what do you mean by "go down this road of estimating and validating harmful effects"? Are you suggesting this is how the state decides what drugs should be illegal? Because that's absolutely not how it works, most drug laws are due to political reasons and not based on evidence.

I think that's what you mean by "wrongly evaluated"? That some of the safest drugs are illegal, and some of the most dangerous are legal? That's certainly true, stuff like weed and psychedelic mushrooms haven't killed anyone, but things like Fentanyl are extremely dangerous in the wrong hands.

Your idea of legalizing drugs one by one based on their harm profile isn't a terrible idea, far from it. However it still doesn't address the fact that users of drugs that are deemed "too dangerous" will still be criminalized, denying them help, and also that the production of said drugs would stay underground and be unregulated, causing more death and injury to users.

Your last sentence demonstrates a misunderstanding of how the drug market works, people are not going to experiment with new untested drugs if there is already a legal option. A good example of this is the rise in "legal high" type drugs, which people only use because the best drugs are illegal. If MDMA, Cannabis, LSD, mushrooms etc. were legal, few people would experiment with lesser known drugs with barely any human experimentation.

As someone with personal experience of this legal high/research chemical market, I can tell you that it does self-regulate itself to a degree. And also that most deaths due to these newer drugs are due to unprofessional vendors mislabelling drugs, or naive users not being careful enough with dosages. A good example of this would be the incidents involving Bromo-Dragonfly or 25i-NBOMe (worth googling). The vast majority of deaths like these would have been avoided if LSD and mushrooms were legal.

The vast majority of deaths due to opiates like Heroin are due to impurities and incorrect dosages. By keeping it illegal, these deaths are not being addressed and will continue. From a harm-reduction perspective, it makes sense to legalise them and allow users to access pure product of a known dosage from a controlled laboratory. Just because it's legal, it doesn't mean that every schoolkid is going to start mainlining Heroin.

A proper education programme would address things like this, show schoolkids the real evidence of how dangerous certain drugs are, explain the risks of different types of drugs. Tell them that ALL drugs can be dangerous, but if you really want to take them, stick to the safer ones and be careful how you take them.
Regardless of whether we agree on all points, you show evidence of a serious depth of knowledge on the subject and should take the time to explain it further.  I highlighted a section above, which falls into the category "I'm not so sure about that..."

Drugs seem to come in as fads, in the popular market.  Given that, I don't think users are inclined to do any more than listen to their excited peers when popping a pill.  And they are not capable of judging side effects or risk, in almost all cases. 

In an atmosphere of legalization, would the users be receptive - more receptive - to discussions about risk and side effects from "old people?"

Well, you gotta see heroin addicts with their teeth rotten, and then falling out,  to comprehend how disgusting it is...
9120  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Should Muslims be aloud to impose Sharia law anywhere in the United States? on: February 01, 2016, 04:22:31 PM
I have no idea what Sharia law is but sure, why not? Let's let muslims do whatever they want where ever they want it. Sure - what harm can come out of it? (said he quite worried, but still slightly amused)

IF it's okay to "allow Sharia law..."

THEN isn't it okay to impose "NonSharia law..."

AND THEN isn't it okay for me to just impose my own law?  "You give me your eldest daughters, half your savings, and your cat.  That's my law.  Either obey it or you are going to really, really regret it, buddy."
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