my windows wallet is still not synching ... any ideas? already added the node to the conf...
Busoni and Dev are onto it it will be fixed..please bear with us.  |
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Swiftbitz has agreed to do all the shipping on ur behalf to Every Holder.
Also added syncing instructions on ann.
Nice. Sure, no reason not to go with them then. It may not be a bad idea to sort of 'prune' your OP, and make some of these things clearer. The freebie btc debit card for starters is a pretty nice thing, but I expect many don't know of it, or at least don't realize they get it for free. Already done |
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The card is a very neat and as we want to increase BTC infrastructure we thought it would be an added bonus, also transactions form those cards exchanges for euro or usd and sent directly to your card or bank account will generate more long term revenues also for Bagholders and QIBUCK coin.. Some peeps will want to use the BTC others will want to convert and put straight onto their debit/credit card or bank account so with the card it gives them that easy option for very low fees.
Yeah, I do agree it is pretty neat. I was just wondering if shipping-wise if it'd be a problem. If not, sure, go for it ... they sound cool to me. Swiftbitz has agreed to do all the shipping on our behalf to Every Holder. Also added syncing instructions on ann. |
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That was our original idea just to pay out via the block explorer a percentage, we thought having three pools would generate more incentive to hold but I guess for many peeps this idea sounds too complicated so we will look into this further thanks.
I wondered why you went with the pool payouts instead of percentage, and yes, in theory it could generate more incentive to hold, or provide more coin to those holding smaller amounts ... but in practice, I think it'll be a big headache and overly complicated. You need safeguards against cheaters and physical cards. I'd still suggest a cap though, which can still be rather big, to just keep exchanges + huge whales from eating the majority of the payouts. I'd also suggest that the coins counted for a payout only come from those who signup to begin with. Otherwise you will dilute the payouts for no real reason. If you go with the percentage idea, there is also no real requirement for a physical card either. Although it is sort of a nice bonus... just not sure if shipping costs will prove too expensive. The card is a very neat and as we want to increase BTC infrastructure we thought it would be an added bonus, also transactions form those cards exchanges for euro or usd and sent directly to your card or bank account will generate more long term revenues also for Bagholders and QIBUCK coin.. Some peeps will want to use the BTC others will want to convert and put straight onto their debit/credit card or bank account so with the card it gives them that easy option for very low fees. |
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you are still better of just going for the MIDI pool, remember you also get a share from the MINI pool
1 share of MIDI pool + 1 share of MINI pool > 10 shares of the MINI pool
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still if i have 2000 coins, why should i be restricted from having 2 shares of the MIDI pool? naturally, i would want the maximum profit. If i will be restricted to just 1 share, then id rather have only 1000 coins
shouldnt it be just automatic, like for example if an address has 6789 coins then that is 6 shares MIDI and 6 shares MINI? that would actually save in logistics cost since it would be only 1 card to print and deliver
On the first point, very possible. It really comes down to numbers, as depending on the numbers in each pool, it may be more profitable to cheat the system and go for multiple smaller wallets in a lower pool vs one share in a bigger one. I expect that probably won't be the case, but again, it depends on how many are in each pool. Where it would be advantageous to cheat is when someone has 2K coins, like you say, or however many within that same pool. Then they would get multiple shares in the same pool. Instead of the Skype idea, which the more I think about it, the less I like it, I'd instead suggest: IP check Social Media check Physical address for cards Your automatic share idea isn't bad. If someone has 6K coins, they get 6 midi shares (plus lower shares). No need to cheat then, as the only possible benefit would be to break them down into a lower pool, which very possibly would be less profitable based on the total numbers in each pool ... I expect many wouldn't even bother. It could get iffy with big whales though, as they may take their extra coin then and would benefit by breaking their extra coins into smaller wallets -- as they only need so many coins for the max share, the leftovers could be used to cheat the system. ---- The other way around it is forget the different pools, tread it sort of like POS. Just take the number of folks who sign up for the month, add up their coins, and split the pot. Each coin gets a certain percentage. 1K holders get 1K x coin payout .... 15K coin holders get 15K x coin payout. Put a cap on it so giant whales and exchanges can't eat up all the payouts, and that's it. To me, that would probably be the easiest way to go. That was our original idea just to pay out via the block explorer a percentage, we thought having three pools would generate more incentive to hold but I guess for many peeps this idea sounds too complicated so we will look into this further thanks. |
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i think the skype verification idea came up because of the issue raised regarding how you could cheat the system by having multiple addresses by one bagholder
personally, i dont mind the skype verification but im sure others do not like the idea and i suspect that is one factor which caused some ICO buyers to immediately sell their coins
id like to point out that many are confusing the bagholder payout
if you have 1000 coins and decide to split into 10 Mini bags... that is not equal to 200%
rather what you have is 10 shares from the MINI pool
you are still better of just going for the MIDI pool, remember you also get a share from the MINI pool
1 share of MIDI pool + 1 share of MINI pool > 10 shares of the MINI pool
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still if i have 2000 coins, why should i be restricted from having 2 shares of the MIDI pool? naturally, i would want the maximum profit. If i will be restricted to just 1 share, then id rather have only 1000 coins
shouldnt it be just automatic, like for example if an address has 6789 coins then that is 6 shares MIDI and 6 shares MINI? that would actually save in logistics cost since it would be only 1 card to print and deliver
Having one share of MIDI is better because less dilution of pool..If you dilute to 7 shares, means each share is also going to be less. |
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"TWO MOMS" brought in 59 grand in under 6 hours. Kudos to the gals.
Actually we are more than 2 women on the team..We are the only 2 women the rest are men. http://qibuck.com/team-qi/Also we are waiting for the Devs to wake up to sort out the nodes. Nothing we can do until they wake up, also we did respond here re the wallet issue few pages back. as soon as we saw there was an issue. |
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1) How do you tell there are no 'bagholders' profiting multiple times? If I have 50 000 and put 1000 each in fifty different wallets, I will be receive 50 times the payout I'm supposed to.
2) You bought the coins from yourselves at no cost. So in addition to the 22% share from the management pool, you get god knows how much of the 50% from the bagholding pool? AND control the 23% for reinvestments?
3) The entire concept relies on a bunch of random people constantly profiting on their 'investments'? (trading altcoins)
4) You don't even pay for any upkeep yourselves
5) You deduct the cost of shipping from the the first bonus. So what happens when the money they earn from your 'investments' won't pay for the shipping for 6+months?
Lmao I'm sure you guys are atleast 95% of this volume from the ICO but I can't believe anyone at all bought it....
Good lord
"we have chosen to invest all funds from the ICO in shitcoin x. Unfortunately we have lost all of the funds so from here on out payouts will cease indefinitely"
Cards will be sent out free of charge including shipping, we are covering all the costs for the cards. Verification for bagholder status will happen via Skype. You will have a one on one skype with one of our team members to verify your identity. Each identity will be allowed to have one wallet each of QBK to stake to receive their bonus. If people are deciding to sell their coins below ICO price because of FUD created in the trollbox to manipulate and push the price down have no one to blame for their actions but themselves. No one put a gun on their heads to purchase the coin. If they read the ann and didn't like what we offered then they didn't have to purchase the coin. No once forced them. If you think this is a shit coin then it's not for you so you can go on other threads and purchase the coins you like. Everyone has free choice to choose and buy the coins they like. Just because people dumped hard and didn't make the coin rise 1000% in one hour doesn't make it a scam coin. You chose to crash the coin price you have to live with the consequences. Our job is to deliver on whatever we have tried to lay out in the ann thread. I have been watching the trollbox for 4 hours and even had to see the abusive language reach disgusting levels to try to crash the coin price. It's up to every individual to buy or not buy, to sell less than what they bought for or be patient enough to sell at a profit. Also if you don't like that that TWO MOMS are trying to do something positive in Crypto and like to be sexist in saying that Crypto is only for DEVS AND MEN then the problem is yours. Thank you for your sincere honesty now let us do our job please. . Don't think just because there are ladies involved that we are going to sit here and be bullied by some sad and very bored men. |
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Good news..
1. Swiftbitz Ltd Management will be shipping the cards directly for us to each Bagholder.
2. We will have Stealth addresses on around the 21st - 22nd August.
That's a wrap for tonight.
Tomorrow's plan is to have wallet links up a public ledger page on our website then order the cashless bitcoin atm machine, 4 shares and cards and pay out various bounties. We will also chase up on the block explorer/rich list.
I won't have much time for trollbox tomorrow as we have a lot to get on with but I I wll try to pop in there to say hello at least. Happy trading.
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go go go: my rigs are waiting Rigs are waiting for what?? The multipool?? All coins were mined and sold and is now pos / proof of baghold only if im not mistaken So PoW since when? Launch date is 10-Aug, so PoW is lesser than 24 hours ?? No POW. Only POS / POBH What is this? X13 Mining ninja launches Mining rentals ARMIN - DESIGN BRAINIAC / Marketing Squad/ Mining MANAGER All in the OP. And no dev position ? This is core staff.. We have a Dev for our needs but DEV is not different Salary.. Also bounties will be dispersed tomorrow as we have had a long day today. |
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I will be back in half an hour..
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Thank you Everyone for participating and making this happen. Now for the QIBUCK Team the real work begins.. |
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I considered QBK long and hard but then decided against it for the following reasons:
How things will probably go based on alt-coin history so far:
1. Roadmap mentions merchant adoption which is what every coin so far tried to achieve. Even BTC is struggling with that and merchant adoption to create demand will take many months/years to achieve. After QBK there will be many other coins launched with the same goal. Apart from possible benefits from the u-ci plans I could not see any plausible real life use for QBK that will create demand and this is long term.
2. ICO is a no-no. All ICO coins so far have failed. How will the ICO host in anyways really know what the withdrawals are used for? Apologies if I am skeptic. If you want a coin to succeed you need to have enough real life funding to do it and have a company capitalised with enough funds so that you do not need investor funds to do it. Having said this there are exceptions though like Kickstarter where something tangible or useful have been created but with specific characteristics. In RL using investor funds in companies are regulated and needs to comply with certain criteria and conditions - including venture capital companies.
3. 20k sats ICO. Really??
4. All coins except for a few follow the same price and volume graphs - Initial pump up and after the first rise a dump and gradual decline over a number of weeks/months to eventual low price and low volume followed by a de-listing. What will make QBK different?
5. At the initial pump the ICO purchasers will dump at their respective risk thresholds - some at 5% some at 10-20%%, some will try their luck for 50% and when the bell rings big dumping back to 20k or lower.
6. 95%+ of crypto people are just there for the quick profits. Very few are in it for the long term. The ratio for ICO purchasers will probably be the same, meaning that after the initial dump there will be no interest left and they will move on to the next coin launch.
7. After the initial dump there will be bag holders that at least will earn BTC. BUT unless you have a plan to fund that for at least 1 year, you will run out of funds to pay the BTC.
8. There will be daily moaning on the ANN thread about when is the next innovation, what is going on FUDding will be rife in the backdrop of pice and volume decrease. The downward trend will continue unless you can find another way of creating demand and keeping people interested. However unless there is something big that creates a lot of volatility the initial profit takers will not return and you will have to work with the remaining bagholders to achieve your objectives. The key will be to keep interest, momentum and demand until you can achieve something with merchant adoption or u-ci.
9. POS coins have a dismal track record so far.
On the plus side:
1. If you are as dynamic as you say you are and if want QBK to be successful you need to address the above points. All coins except maybe one or two have failed to achieve that.
2. Women rights is a hot topic currently. So if people are into that then support something run by women (if you are women of course).
3. Accounts mentioned to be involved are at least not raw newbie accounts.
The above sounds skeptical but 20k is too high in my view for an ICO. Maybe there is some BTC to make on the first rise. Hopefully you can prove me wrong.
Its a quick buck(pun) scheme. No one "really" cares about the long term. They are hoping for "XBC revisited" which was also a Polo ico and trollbox sponsered. Sure, Polo will retain control over Ico funds for a period of time. Eventually, the Ico funds will be released for whatever reasons. Ico investors will dump like there's no tomorrow if the coin pumps. No doubt. This includes qiwoman and bitcoin_mafia who have been upfront about their need to find money for sons. I resent the implication that I would tank my reputation and steal from people over a pump and dump for a few BTC. Polo has control of the ICO funds and will CONTINUE to have control over those funds. I know there have been many PnD and ICO scams before, but you don't know either one of us. There is a big difference between needing money and being willing to steal it from people. I bought my coins just like everyone else and ONLY get what I bought. Same goes for everyone else on the team. Until you have proof to back up your accusations (which you don't and WON'T), keep your misinformation to yourself please. So did I from my own hard worked for earnings.. Also the insinuation that we need money for our Sons is disheartening to say the least.especially when we have worked for every penny we have earned and I also invested my own assets into this coin..anyway Cynthia and I have got a lot of work ahead of us to make money for the Bagholders..We won't have time to respond t FUD and Abuse..so anyone fudding here is wasting our time, time that can be spent on CONSTRUCTIVE issues. |
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So what exactly are the assets the team owns?
They're listed in the ASSETS section of the OP Yes I am making a proper assets sheet after the launch..I need ad 50k bankcoins to it as well. |
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气元币明日美东时间12 noon开始首发
0.0002 btc 500k coins
单价：0.0002/气元币 共计：五十万
no premine all on poloniex
没有预挖，全部在poloniex发行
预购从速。
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There is no 100% foolproof way to guard against it without going all "show us your papers, citizen!" on people, which
we do not want to do. Most people, I think, will abide by the 1 card - 1 address - 1 person rule. There's plenty of profit
for all without anyone having to get greedy.
Yep, I just wanted to see if I even understood how that worked correctly. There is no fullproof way to guard against abusers. Ip check, social media, could help, so would suggest that. I do agree that I think most will abide by the rules though, or at least I hope. Also the pool thing will help peeps not just have all their coins on exchange so they will just upload on exchange what they want to trade so it encourages good bagholding practices.. Also if peep think he is clever making too many addresses, he will earn less and less by over diluting the pool.  Less addresses makes for MORE INCOME.. This will turn from whale fest to shark fest as more and more peeps scramble for the top positions..Also once our assets and revenues grow and grow..the value will rise intrinsically and so will naturally - without brute force - the price. |
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I think it will just be better to make each pool have an equal share?
We made the lower pool more because there will be more peeps in that one so less to share out..the other two pools will have less and less peeps in..Does that make sense? |
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