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921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Primecoin GPU miner: up to 2.6 chains / day on a 280x +FREE solo version on: April 28, 2014, 04:35:56 AM
Interesting enough, I seem to be getting 16.7 CPD with 4x 280x cards / 4770k CPU.

Been running 16 hours and I've gotten 2 blocks.

This was with some fiddling with how the miner is set up, and tweaking the settings on the GPU.

Going to see if it holds up and keeps going at these rates.

wtf 16 cpd.

i have same setup but with fx-4350 instead, only got 7.5 cpd.

Just restarted miner with another tweak. Going to let in run overnight. Here's pic:


how to take screenshots
922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Primecoin GPU miner: up to 2.6 chains / day on a 280x +FREE solo version on: April 28, 2014, 04:25:54 AM
Interesting enough, I seem to be getting 16.7 CPD with 4x 280x cards / 4770k CPU.
Khm... doesn't seem right.
Please post you 'time' values. Also, could you please try different -cpuusage values.

Time values are 95 to 106 fluctuating a bit. It clicks through the passes a little faster than 1 second per pass, l like a slightly faster stopwatch.

Again this is with some mods I figured out to the miner in combination with finding by trial, error, and a bit of luck- a sweet spot for GPU settings. ,I'm using 2.01 paid version. CPU usage value set to 11.
923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Primecoin GPU miner: up to 2.6 chains / day on a 280x +FREE solo version on: April 28, 2014, 03:37:29 AM
Interesting enough, I seem to be getting 16.7 CPD with 4x 280x cards / 4770k CPU.

Been running 16 hours and I've gotten 2 blocks.

This was with some fiddling with how the miner is set up, and tweaking the settings on the GPU.

Going to see if it holds up and keeps going at these rates.
924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 02:43:06 AM
I gotta be honest here, I only posted in this thread because we have been getting trolled hard by a few members of BC community. Mr. Random, Alphaminer(same person I believe) and now Geode. I read a few pages back and saw that Geode proposed going on the mintcoin thread and telling people to sell and buy blackcoin. The community here shot him down pretty hard. I'm sorry, I didn't read that before I posted. My apologies.

Yeah, it's hard to control every member of a community. A lot of us try to discourage this behavior. It would be best for every coin if we didn't have to fight trolls in our own coin threads. But people see trolls in their own threads and decide the best way to deal with it is to troll back. That just starts a troll cascade. I have no problems with MINT. Smiley

King is your plan to try to buy back your Whitecoin lower?  That was quite a sell off. How much were you holding?
925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 02:26:08 AM
source is being updated on gitbhub, new wallets seem to be in the works.  Very good news that someone is coming to help out.  Glad there are some in the community who still help instead of troll and whine like a bunch of bitches.  

This.

Pretty much ignored 90% of the posts.  Crypto is community, and open source.  If the project is in trouble, intelligent people can continue development on it without the original developers.

Obviously the trolls that are commenting do not have this ability or intelligence.  They are not trying to get real answers or provide solutions.  This is why their comments are ignored as garbage/trolling.

Anyone selling at this point is retarded.  There was way too much hash on this coin for people to just give up on it, and it will continue to be a great performing coin.

PS: Just for the record I am an OP on the #blackcoinpool channel too.  There is no reason both coins cannot prosper.  Let's start to make crypto better, instead of this cesspool some of you gentlemen make it out to be.


binaryclock

Ryan, dedicatedpool.com support/admin
admin@dedicatedpool.com / IRC on freenode ##dedicatedpool


Respect +1

Agreed.

However looking at the depth charts, another huge dump and plunge is headed our way… We were at 550 last night, it's going south for a while.
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 02:04:45 AM
Buy support shrinking more. 650 or lower likely.


927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 02:01:45 AM
So has the POS been fixed yet or is this still a problem?

getting there! was a minor hicup but got a great crew getting it done! watching them live now

Where can you watch?
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 01:54:58 AM
moving buywall back to the 720/725 area, seems more logical place to hold till Tomorrow

It's going to hit 650 soon.
929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 01:36:48 AM
We need BUY support/walls putting up ASAP - pls help to stop it dropping tyvm.

The opposite is happening. Buy support is thinning progressively and walls are simply being pulled. I think the market is expecting another big sell off.  Remember we were at 550 last night.

This could very well happen again with exchange transfers still in lockdown.


Sad
930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 12:57:26 AM
Where are those great bid walls now?
Sold. Another night dump now or what?
I want to deposit my coins!  Wink

Like 20 BTC of buys around 940-900 just got chewed through in only 60 seconds. Looking like some sort of dump is going to happen. Not sure.
931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 12:54:58 AM
Where are those great bid walls now?

Buy walls all sold.
932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ESSAY] "Shades of an AltCoin War" Whitecoin, Darkcoin, and Blackcoin at War on: April 28, 2014, 12:49:52 AM
Nice sum of the current events with the Quick POW/POS/Multipool Model.

I think the future of any of these coins is going to be a battle of hashes on the multipools and we will see DDOS attacks increase as the older ones popularity waxes and wanes.  This is the bloodsport of economics.   

Many thanks!
933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 12:44:27 AM
It's Stratobitz not Blitz.

Fixed.

One more fucking post in this thread and my mission in the next 24 hours is to make sure every fucking noob in crypto knows the exact situation Whitecoin faced and faces now. I can do that with facts, not stories. Stay out of this thread and my give a fuck level about the situation likely won't reach that point.

+1

 
 
Omg Stratobitz did not just do that! 
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ESSAY] "Shades of an AltCoin War" Whitecoin, Darkcoin, and Blackcoin at War on: April 28, 2014, 12:34:59 AM
I dunno, your only valid point is that cheap coins have much more growth potential than expensive ones. Dozens of cheap coins currently exist, why whitecoin?

Does any altcoin really have a strong argument for that yet?   I don't think so.  Not until there is greater adoption of BTC en masse.  

MaxwellCoin has some very interesting ideas, but not much is known yet. Until it's less hush hush we will just have to wait and see.

As with all ALTs as well.
935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] - The WhiteCoin Foundation - Community Planning & Discussion on: April 28, 2014, 12:31:22 AM
Shades of an AltCoin War

There is no question that the last 24-48 hours the AltCoin community, particularly the three "ShadeCoins", White, Dark and Black, have been filled with an incredible amount of both positive and negative energy. There is no question that these three coins are essentially "at war". Having followed the past few days very closely, I wanted to provide my detailed perspective on what has been happening, why, and most importantly, what this means for the future of these coins.

Most of the posts on this particular forum (Whitecoin), those posted in the last 24 hours were in all likelihood SPAM, complete lies posted by people who created brand new accounts on bitcointalk to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt... Or as I see it "Disruption), in order to capitalize on their own personal cryto-currency goals.

The tactics used however, particularly those used to question the integrity and security of the Whitecoin protocol have been by far the most disappointing.

So... The first point I want to address is:  Why would people do this?

There are two reasons which I see as being the most likely scenarios:

1.) If a person or small group of people can essentially "Mass-Spam" a coin community with disinformation or "lies", those which cannot be confirmed or disproved quickly, a large enough portion of the coin holders who's coins are under this attack (Whitecoin in this case) will be driven into a state of fear, and where there is fear, people sell. A mass exodus of selling causes additional panic, leading to more selling, which drives the price down.

--- So, Why do this?

By driving the price down these Spamers will have the ability to buy the coins at much lower levels.  Once the disinformation they have posted is proved to be false, the coin will then rally back to normal if not far exceeding levels, resulting in huge profits for the attackers.

2.) The other likely reason would be a competing coin's community, users, or even Devs, would attack their competitor with posts to forums, twitter and the like to discredit the coin in hopes to drive them out.

--- Again, Why do this?

There is a limited supply of money being traded in alt-coins. Altcoin creators are essentially all competing for a piece of the same pie. More buyers mean higher prices. By spreading disinformation, uninformed and inexperienced traders will read these posts and see them as being the gospel.  Fear sets in, and they sell.  

Now if you're a trader, particularly a new trader, waiting on the side lines for the right opportunity is no fun.  

Most neophyte traders will likely immediately seek a new place to park their BTC as an investment. Right now, there is no question Blackcoin, Darkcoin, and Whitecoin are in a fierce competition for a limited amount of BTC which is within the exchanges and at play to trade with. Those very BTC are the necessary fuel for any and all growth. Lack of new BTC being fed into an altcoin means stagnation... And traders, particularly the new ones, "must" see action in order to feel they are "in the game".

Thus a coin that meerly churns, meaning no new influx of BTC, will likely trade sideways, resulting in boredom, which psychologically progresses into anxiety. This anxiety, or felling that missed opportunities are passing at every moment as their altcoin investment meerly treads water inevitably leads to selling off and looking for a new and better play.

--- CONSIDER THE FACTS OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED WITH WHITECOIN

The information, or disinformation that has been posted about Whitecoin lacks credibility In my opinion for a number of reasons.

1.) Timing:  The release of this so called "highly critical and important information", information by which caused mass panic, was released to the public in the middle of the night on a Saturday/Sunday. A time most likely when the actual developers would be either asleep or out to dinner, or putting the kids to bed,  and not available to respond to what was being posted.

What professional developer would seriously disseminate important information to his community in the middle of the night on a weekend.  And if so, why would he only do so only on this forum and on twitter, using brand new accounts with little to no posts.  

Lastly, why would he chose not to post this also on his own website?

These factors in terms of timing are the main reason the information these posters provided I find to be highly suspicious and untrue.

2.) Users:  All of the disinformation posted was posted by brand new accounts created within hours of the release of the said information. These users claimed to be a part of the development team.

I consider this also to be highly suspect of foul play.

3.). PoW to PoS Transition:  Whitecoin recently finalized its mining phase, and has now entered into its Proof of Stake phase.  This switch occurred less than 72 hours ago.  

With any major switchover, there were some minor bugs that were immediately resolved.  

New PoS multipools were being set up by pool operators independent of Whitecoin. New pools almost always have things to work out as in a matter of hours the user load increases by huge amounts.

The timing of this suspect information coincided with these minor issues, issues which in fact all coins have faced during a transition phase.  I personally believe the attackers of Whitecoin timed their attack to exploit these minor bugs and add to any already existing stress within the Whitecoin community.

To Note: Most, if not all of these minor issues have since been resolved.

--- REALITY

Whitecoin is now priced at levels that offer unprecedented opportunities to traders. This opportunity has been made available to the entire altcoin community at the expense of those who sold off and likely realized losses in their Whitecoin investments.

The price levels we are seeing right now allow traders to get in at severely undervalued price points and ride the "rocketship" as many coiners call it, as the coin begins to recover.

You have to remember:  Coins like Blackcoin and Darkcoin were both at one point in time worth less than 1000 Satoshis.  Yet these coins managed to skyrocket in value to levels of 90,000 and 500,000 respectively.

The truth is this growth is impossible to sustain.  10,000% returns are now 100% impossible to see again with both Blackcoin and Darkcoin. If you didn't get in weeks ago, I'm sorry you missed the boat.

Whitecoin however is a clearly different story.  

1.) Whitecoin is perhaps the most publicized and rapidly accepted altcoin to hit the exchanges in months.  Within a few weeks time it had been added to virtually all of the major exchanges, as well as listed on BitcoinWisdom. This alone is unprecedented.

2.) Whitecoin is the only one of the three "shadecoins", that being White, Dark, Black; that can actually grow by leaps and bounds. 1000%, 10,000%, 50,000% is certainly possible. This is what both Blackcoin and Darkcoin were able to achieve, but have since fallen considerably and become less attractive to the investment community. Whitecoin is the new kid on the block, he's gotten a lot of attention recently, and the other 2 shades aren't too happy their values have since been dropping as Whitecoin sucked up a lot of the volume and Market Cap.

Now considering all three of these coins are speculative investments; as are ALL altcoins, there being still no mainstream acceptance in terms of being used as a payment method, you have to ask yourself this question...

--- Why invest in any altcoin?

- If you are investing in altcoins for the mere point of being a part of a world changing shift of how money is treated and transacted, invest in coins you see as having unique features or philanthropic aspects which appeal to your personal aspirations. You aren't in this for the money. You want to change the world. Honestly, I applaud you.

- If you are investing and trading to make money, and capitalize on as much value growth as possible resulting in huge returns, you should be looking for oversold, underpriced options.

These coins will be the ones that go from 700 to 250,000 and make you rich.  A coin like Darkcoin would have to rise at its current price by a factor of 250 times to see the same growth... Growth that is a very real possibility with Whitecoin. That means that Darkcoin would have to near reach the price of Bitcoin. Personally, I do not see that as being even the most remote possibility.

MY CONCLUSION

 The Blackcoin and Darkcoin ships have sailed. They made people who got in early and held for the months it took for the coin to go from 1000 to astronomical levels very rich.  Blackcoin in particular took roughly 32 days to move from its final 900 level to 90,000.  32 days. It takes time. Those that bought and held, I am sure are now buying very nice houses.

The past 24 hours have been filled with garbage posts which have no reliable information and lack integrity from all angles.

Whitecoin in my opinion is the next player in what I refer to as HyperGrowth Capitalization. Growth that will make millionaires out of ordinary people. It may take 32 days as it did with Blackcoin, or even longer as in the case of Darkcoin. If you remember Bitcoin took years. However,  It is the only coin as of right now that has the realistic potential to see such gains.  It has a strong community.  It's developers are actively engaged in promoting and advancing the coin into the future.  It's incredibly oversold on bad information. I wish I had more BTC to buy in.

But only time will tell. Don't take my words for the holy grail. But also don't listen to most of the negative  information you will likely find on the Whitecoin board. Do research. Be a smart investor. Don't risk what you can't afford to lose.

You can follow me on Twitter @Stratobitz   I frequently post tips on what's breaking out, as well as what I feel is likely to correct or crash.

Please reply +1 if you enjoyed this... To keep it up in the thread listing.

Best of luck to all.

Strato
936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 12:28:08 AM
I've said what I needed to say.  I don't have time to squabble.  You all get my point.

Did we?
937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
You guys.  It's completely understandable you want to recover and prevent any losses, but there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to bash Blackcoin or any coin for that matter.  The people who created blackcoin came up with this brialliant idea and all these other coins are stealing it.  They very least you guys could do is show respect where it is deserved.

I lost a fuck load in this coin because of the ridiculous way they announced the bad news.  So they could have done so many things differently, especially knowing a huge pump was in the works.

Some of you are my friends so I hope you make your money back.  But to others, I advise you to stop slamming other coins.

Stealing?  Bitcoin was the first mass adopted use of the concept. All Blackcoin did was give it a tweak.
938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 12:21:47 AM
--- REALITY, without the suspicious white tint

Whitecoin's Proof of Stake never worked - the code was borked. The blockchain was EXTREMELY vulnerable to a 51% attack for nearly 48 hours because PoS was supposed to have taken over, but did not work and almost nobody was mining PoW as the rewards had been adjusted to almost nothing for the switchover. There was nothing securing the blockchain except for hopes and dreams. Any entity with a relatively small amount of hash power could have taken over their coin at any time. As more and more people realized this, the chunkypool operator decided he had to make it a public emergency before a malicious attacker took over the block chain. He had to do this publicly so that he could get Whitecoin supporters to point hashrate at the PoW pool and protect the chain.

Stratoblitz has been posting this lovely story all day in an attempt to sweep those problems under the rug and keep the price high on closed markets. He even makes strong suggestions to discredit the guy that likely saved their buggy coin from being attacked into nothing. He's trying to convince the naive that nothing really went wrong.  Cheesy

Love the world of crypto.  Roll Eyes

I knew there would be a rally trying to hype people up to get the price back so people could dump.  I am surprised though it has held up so far, I thought for sure when I woke up this morning everyone would have gotten out and the price would be tanked.

It's Stratobitz not Blitz.
939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC) | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: April 28, 2014, 12:20:09 AM
When will mintcoin be dies?  Grin

How do we get rid of Mintcoin and get those guys to log into Mintpal and buy just Blackcoin?

You can't. People aren't buying BC like they used to. Decline will likely continue.
940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] (WC) | WhiteCoin | ☯ Now in PoS stage ☯ MULTIPOOL: whitecoinpool.com ☯ on: April 28, 2014, 12:15:16 AM
2000 by tomorrow morning?  Perhaps...  EU will beat the US traders to the exchanges with the time difference.

Hmmmm.

Strato
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