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April 27, 2014, 11:55:20 PM
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No android wallet? Sad
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April 27, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
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Hey guys

Ask to that girl to promote Black coin, she's hot

http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/2345u4/black_dress_on_a_purple_bed/



If we're going to go down the sexist/misogynistic route, it'd only be right for you to find a suitable male equivalent also.

I'd rather not be tacky, personally.
Well... Which guy here is up for showing his dick while getting BlackCoins?  Cheesy

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I know some people ready to show everything for BLC



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Shades of an AltCoin War

There is no question that the last 24-48 hours the AltCoin community, particularly the three "ShadeCoins", White, Dark and Black, have been filled with an incredible amount of both positive and negative energy. There is no question that these three coins are essentially "at war". Having followed the past few days very closely, I wanted to provide my detailed perspective on what has been happening, why, and most importantly, what this means for the future of these coins.

Most of the posts on this particular forum (Whitecoin), those posted in the last 24 hours were in all likelihood SPAM, complete lies posted by people who created brand new accounts on bitcointalk to spread FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt... Or as I see it "Disruption), in order to capitalize on their own personal cryto-currency goals.

The tactics used however, particularly those used to question the integrity and security of the Whitecoin protocol have been by far the most disappointing.

So... The first point I want to address is:  Why would people do this?

There are two reasons which I see as being the most likely scenarios:

1.) If a person or small group of people can essentially "Mass-Spam" a coin community with disinformation or "lies", those which cannot be confirmed or disproved quickly, a large enough portion of the coin holders who's coins are under this attack (Whitecoin in this case) will be driven into a state of fear, and where there is fear, people sell. A mass exodus of selling causes additional panic, leading to more selling, which drives the price down.

--- So, Why do this?

By driving the price down these Spamers will have the ability to buy the coins at much lower levels.  Once the disinformation they have posted is proved to be false, the coin will then rally back to normal if not far exceeding levels, resulting in huge profits for the attackers.

2.) The other likely reason would be a competing coin's community, users, or even Devs, would attack their competitor with posts to forums, twitter and the like to discredit the coin in hopes to drive them out.

--- Again, Why do this?

There is a limited supply of money being traded in alt-coins. Altcoin creators are essentially all competing for a piece of the same pie. More buyers mean higher prices. By spreading disinformation, uninformed and inexperienced traders will read these posts and see them as being the gospel.  Fear sets in, and they sell.  

Now if you're a trader, particularly a new trader, waiting on the side lines for the right opportunity is no fun.  

Most neophyte traders will likely immediately seek a new place to park their BTC as an investment. Right now, there is no question Blackcoin, Darkcoin, and Whitecoin are in a fierce competition for a limited amount of BTC which is within the exchanges and at play to trade with. Those very BTC are the necessary fuel for any and all growth. Lack of new BTC being fed into an altcoin means stagnation... And traders, particularly the new ones, "must" see action in order to feel they are "in the game".

Thus a coin that meerly churns, meaning no new influx of BTC, will likely trade sideways, resulting in boredom, which psychologically progresses into anxiety. This anxiety, or felling that missed opportunities are passing at every moment as their altcoin investment meerly treads water inevitably leads to selling off and looking for a new and better play.

--- CONSIDER THE FACTS OF WHAT HAS OCCURRED WITH WHITECOIN

The information, or disinformation that has been posted about Whitecoin lacks credibility In my opinion for a number of reasons.

1.) Timing:  The release of this so called "highly critical and important information", information by which caused mass panic, was released to the public in the middle of the night on a Saturday/Sunday. A time most likely when the actual developers would be either asleep or out to dinner, or putting the kids to bed,  and not available to respond to what was being posted.

What professional developer would seriously disseminate important information to his community in the middle of the night on a weekend.  And if so, why would he only do so only on this forum and on twitter, using brand new accounts with little to no posts.  

Lastly, why would he chose not to post this also on his own website?

These factors in terms of timing are the main reason the information these posters provided I find to be highly suspicious and untrue.

2.) Users:  All of the disinformation posted was posted by brand new accounts created within hours of the release of the said information. These users claimed to be a part of the development team.

I consider this also to be highly suspect of foul play.

3.). PoW to PoS Transition:  Whitecoin recently finalized its mining phase, and has now entered into its Proof of Stake phase.  This switch occurred less than 72 hours ago.  

With any major switchover, there were some minor bugs that were immediately resolved.  

New PoS multipools were being set up by pool operators independent of Whitecoin. New pools almost always have things to work out as in a matter of hours the user load increases by huge amounts.

The timing of this suspect information coincided with these minor issues, issues which in fact all coins have faced during a transition phase.  I personally believe the attackers of Whitecoin timed their attack to exploit these minor bugs and add to any already existing stress within the Whitecoin community.

To Note: Most, if not all of these minor issues have since been resolved.

--- REALITY

Whitecoin is now priced at levels that offer unprecedented opportunities to traders. This opportunity has been made available to the entire altcoin community at the expense of those who sold off and likely realized losses in their Whitecoin investments.

The price levels we are seeing right now allow traders to get in at severely undervalued price points and ride the "rocketship" as many coiners call it, as the coin begins to recover.

You have to remember:  Coins like Blackcoin and Darkcoin were both at one point in time worth less than 1000 Satoshis.  Yet these coins managed to skyrocket in value to levels of 90,000 and 500,000 respectively.

The truth is this growth is impossible to sustain.  10,000% returns are now 100% impossible to see again with both Blackcoin and Darkcoin. If you didn't get in weeks ago, I'm sorry you missed the boat.

Whitecoin however is a clearly different story.  

1.) Whitecoin is perhaps the most publicized and rapidly accepted altcoin to hit the exchanges in months.  Within a few weeks time it had been added to virtually all of the major exchanges, as well as listed on BitcoinWisdom. This alone is unprecedented.

2.) Whitecoin is the only one of the three "shadecoins", that being White, Dark, Black; that can actually grow by leaps and bounds. 1000%, 10,000%, 50,000% is certainly possible. This is what both Blackcoin and Darkcoin were able to achieve, but have since fallen considerably and become less attractive to the investment community. Whitecoin is the new kid on the block, he's gotten a lot of attention recently, and the other 2 shades aren't too happy their values have since been dropping as Whitecoin sucked up a lot of the volume and Market Cap.

Now considering all three of these coins are speculative investments; as are ALL altcoins, there being still no mainstream acceptance in terms of being used as a payment method, you have to ask yourself this question...

--- Why invest in any altcoin?

- If you are investing in altcoins for the mere point of being a part of a world changing shift of how money is treated and transacted, invest in coins you see as having unique features or philanthropic aspects which appeal to your personal aspirations. You aren't in this for the money. You want to change the world. Honestly, I applaud you.

- If you are investing and trading to make money, and capitalize on as much value growth as possible resulting in huge returns, you should be looking for oversold, underpriced options.

These coins will be the ones that go from 700 to 250,000 and make you rich.  A coin like Darkcoin would have to rise at its current price by a factor of 250 times to see the same growth... Growth that is a very real possibility with Whitecoin. That means that Darkcoin would have to near reach the price of Bitcoin. Personally, I do not see that as being even the most remote possibility.

MY CONCLUSION

 The Blackcoin and Darkcoin ships have sailed. They made people who got in early and held for the months it took for the coin to go from 1000 to astronomical levels very rich.  Blackcoin in particular took roughly 32 days to move from its final 900 level to 90,000.  32 days. It takes time. Those that bought and held, I am sure are now buying very nice houses.

The past 24 hours have been filled with garbage posts which have no reliable information and lack integrity from all angles.

Whitecoin in my opinion is the next player in what I refer to as HyperGrowth Capitalization. Growth that will make millionaires out of ordinary people. It may take 32 days as it did with Blackcoin, or even longer as in the case of Darkcoin. If you remember Bitcoin took years. However,  It is the only coin as of right now that has the realistic potential to see such gains.  It has a strong community.  It's developers are actively engaged in promoting and advancing the coin into the future.  It's incredibly oversold on bad information. I wish I had more BTC to buy in.

But only time will tell. Don't take my words for the holy grail. But also don't listen to most of the negative  information you will likely find on the Whitecoin board. Do research. Be a smart investor. Don't risk what you can't afford to lose.

You can follow me on Twitter @Stratobitz   I frequently post tips on what's breaking out, as well as what I feel is likely to correct or crash.

Please reply +1 if you enjoyed this... To keep it up in the thread listing.

Best of luck to all.

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Stratobitz is a joke. Dude has claimed in other places that he owns 3 million Whitecoin. This story is a bunch of sugar-coating to try and salvage the price and protect his investment on a closed market by convincing newer traders who don't understand the situation that they should buy. He will likely dump the minute exchanges open again, along with quite a few people I suspect.

--- REALITY, without the suspicious white tint

Whitecoin's Proof of Stake never worked - the code was borked. The blockchain was EXTREMELY vulnerable to a 51% attack for nearly 48 hours because PoS was supposed to have taken over, but did not work and almost nobody was mining PoW as the rewards had been adjusted to almost nothing for the switchover. There was nothing securing the blockchain except for hopes and dreams. Any entity with a relatively small amount of hash power could have taken over their coin at any time. As more and more people realized this, the chunkypool operator decided he had to make it a public emergency before a malicious attacker took over the block chain. He had to do this publicly so that he could get Whitecoin supporters to point enough hashrate at the PoW pool to protect the chain.

Stratoblitz has been posting this lovely story all day in an attempt to sweep those problems under the rug and keep the price high on closed markets. He even makes strong suggestions to discredit the guy that likely saved their buggy coin from being attacked into nothing. He's trying to convince the naive that nothing really went wrong.  Cheesy

Love the world of crypto.  Roll Eyes

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April 28, 2014, 12:10:57 AM
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@coinism that picture is hilarious Cheesy

Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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--- REALITY, without the suspicious white tint

Whitecoin's Proof of Stake never worked - the code was borked. The blockchain was EXTREMELY vulnerable to a 51% attack for nearly 48 hours because PoS was supposed to have taken over, but did not work and almost nobody was mining PoW as the rewards had been adjusted to almost nothing for the switchover. There was nothing securing the blockchain except for hopes and dreams. Any entity with a relatively small amount of hash power could have taken over their coin at any time. As more and more people realized this, the chunkypool operator decided he had to make it a public emergency before a malicious attacker took over the block chain. He had to do this publicly so that he could get Whitecoin supporters to point hashrate at the PoW pool and protect the chain.

Stratoblitz has been posting this lovely story all day in an attempt to sweep those problems under the rug and keep the price high on closed markets. He even makes strong suggestions to discredit the guy that likely saved their buggy coin from being attacked into nothing. He's trying to convince the naive that nothing really went wrong.  Cheesy

Love the world of crypto.  Roll Eyes

I knew there would be a rally trying to hype people up to get the price back so people could dump.  I am surprised though it has held up so far, I thought for sure when I woke up this morning everyone would have gotten out and the price would be tanked.

Impossible is a word found only in the dictionary of fools.
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April 28, 2014, 12:14:15 AM
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When will mintcoin be dies?  Grin

How do we get rid of Mintcoin and get those guys to log into Mintpal and buy just Blackcoin?

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April 28, 2014, 12:19:41 AM
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I knew there would be a rally trying to hype people up to get the price back so people could dump.  I am surprised though it has held up so far, I thought for sure when I woke up this morning everyone would have gotten out and the price would be tanked.

Yeah, but almost nobody can sell their coins until the exchanges resume deposits/withdrawals. They're still not up. So it's very easy for people to prop the price up - they can convince buyers to buy with BTC, but sellers are completely sidelined. Might be seeing a bloodbath the minute those markets open up.
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April 28, 2014, 12:20:09 AM
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When will mintcoin be dies?  Grin

How do we get rid of Mintcoin and get those guys to log into Mintpal and buy just Blackcoin?

You can't. People aren't buying BC like they used to. Decline will likely continue.
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April 28, 2014, 12:21:47 AM
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--- REALITY, without the suspicious white tint

Whitecoin's Proof of Stake never worked - the code was borked. The blockchain was EXTREMELY vulnerable to a 51% attack for nearly 48 hours because PoS was supposed to have taken over, but did not work and almost nobody was mining PoW as the rewards had been adjusted to almost nothing for the switchover. There was nothing securing the blockchain except for hopes and dreams. Any entity with a relatively small amount of hash power could have taken over their coin at any time. As more and more people realized this, the chunkypool operator decided he had to make it a public emergency before a malicious attacker took over the block chain. He had to do this publicly so that he could get Whitecoin supporters to point hashrate at the PoW pool and protect the chain.

Stratoblitz has been posting this lovely story all day in an attempt to sweep those problems under the rug and keep the price high on closed markets. He even makes strong suggestions to discredit the guy that likely saved their buggy coin from being attacked into nothing. He's trying to convince the naive that nothing really went wrong.  Cheesy

Love the world of crypto.  Roll Eyes

I knew there would be a rally trying to hype people up to get the price back so people could dump.  I am surprised though it has held up so far, I thought for sure when I woke up this morning everyone would have gotten out and the price would be tanked.

It's Stratobitz not Blitz.
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April 28, 2014, 12:23:27 AM
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When will mintcoin be dies?  Grin

How do we get rid of Mintcoin and get those guys to log into Mintpal and buy just Blackcoin?

You can't. People aren't buying BC like they used to. Decline will likely continue.

AH so you think they will be buying WC instead of BC sure..
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April 28, 2014, 12:24:30 AM
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A campaign has started to get BlackCoin onto Kraken

EVERYBODY STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND UPVOTE THIS REDDIT POST : www.reddit.com/r/Kraken/comments/243ozq/please_add_blackcoin_to_kraken/

AND RETWEET THIS : https://twitter.com/CoinBlack/status/460513347054870528


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April 28, 2014, 12:25:13 AM
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Why would people care about a crap copy like WC? People should keep putting money into BC and hold. It is a great coin and it is better than MINT garbage or WC garbage.

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April 28, 2014, 12:27:12 AM
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It's Stratobitz not Blitz.

Fixed.

One more fucking post in this thread and my mission in the next 24 hours is to make sure every fucking noob in crypto knows the exact situation Whitecoin faced and faces now. I can do that with facts, not stories. Stay out of this thread and my give a fuck level about the situation likely won't reach that point.
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April 28, 2014, 12:28:10 AM
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--- REALITY, without the suspicious white tint

Whitecoin's Proof of Stake never worked - the code was borked. The blockchain was EXTREMELY vulnerable to a 51% attack for nearly 48 hours because PoS was supposed to have taken over, but did not work and almost nobody was mining PoW as the rewards had been adjusted to almost nothing for the switchover. There was nothing securing the blockchain except for hopes and dreams. Any entity with a relatively small amount of hash power could have taken over their coin at any time. As more and more people realized this, the chunkypool operator decided he had to make it a public emergency before a malicious attacker took over the block chain. He had to do this publicly so that he could get Whitecoin supporters to point hashrate at the PoW pool and protect the chain.

Stratoblitz has been posting this lovely story all day in an attempt to sweep those problems under the rug and keep the price high on closed markets. He even makes strong suggestions to discredit the guy that likely saved their buggy coin from being attacked into nothing. He's trying to convince the naive that nothing really went wrong.  Cheesy

Love the world of crypto.  Roll Eyes

I knew there would be a rally trying to hype people up to get the price back so people could dump.  I am surprised though it has held up so far, I thought for sure when I woke up this morning everyone would have gotten out and the price would be tanked.

It's Stratobitz not Blitz.
this is an impressive counter-argument.
now go and search for a rope....

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April 28, 2014, 12:30:40 AM
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@coinism that picture is hilarious Cheesy


LOL Tongue
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April 28, 2014, 12:36:34 AM
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how to upvote ? Huh  Grin
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April 28, 2014, 12:41:44 AM
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Guys, help out at the MINT thread. Need to push down the MINT prices and get them to move into BC and get our prices up. BC is so undervalued.

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Guys, help out at the MINT thread. Need to push down the MINT prices and get them to move into BC and get our prices up. BC is so undervalued.

why would u do that ? Its their coin, they like it, let them be. We hate when some toilet coins holders comming and promoting so dont do the same plz - -
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April 28, 2014, 12:44:27 AM
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It's Stratobitz not Blitz.

Fixed.

One more fucking post in this thread and my mission in the next 24 hours is to make sure every fucking noob in crypto knows the exact situation Whitecoin faced and faces now. I can do that with facts, not stories. Stay out of this thread and my give a fuck level about the situation likely won't reach that point.

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Omg Stratobitz did not just do that! 
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Guys, help out at the MINT thread. Need to push down the MINT prices and get them to move into BC and get our prices up. BC is so undervalued.

why would u do that ? Its their coin, they like it, let them be. We hate when some toilet coins holders comming and promoting so dont do the same plz - -

It is good to get them to leave MINT and come to BC because BC is a superior coin. We have a better dev and a much stronger community.

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