I have lots to say.
What I say is rarely going to get posted by anyone else.
Someone has to say it..

Not all things are explained easily in short form.
When discussing the entire history of an exchange yeah..

I can tell easily you are a kid JollyGood.
And that I turned you onto picture spamming here.
You copied me after I posted a couple.

Tl:DR
I post good shit.
My posts are better than yours.
It's about being real.
Blame can be spread around with Cryptsy.
It is not Vern alone who is the bad guy.
Even I have to share a little of it..
I used the service longer than I should have and I could have done more to warn users..

My message is simple..  FUD.

Embrace it and process it.
It is the voice of reason.

We SHOULD have fear, uncertainty and doubt about this stuff.

..and the fear should not be losing money but destroying crypto!

PS:
@JollyGood
That post was unnecessary.
It was a violation in many ways..
It was a personal insult.
It was off topic.
It was garbage posting.

People came here to talk about Cryptsy not discuss Spoetnik's posting style.
Well except for Bruno.. But he's not people.
What is he? I suspect illuminati lizard people overlord!

It could be easy to offer some BTC to someone such as guys on this topic to go through and clean house.

A show of force may curb the out of control behavior.

Mass account creation and mass garbage posting is not good.
So maybe a new rule is needed?
Additional accounts are permitted if users are being reasonable about it.
Why does a guy need to create 20 at once?
Is there a legit reason for THAT many to be made?

This issue permeates the whole site..
Seen off topic? WOW what a joke!
It is nothing but lobbing softball questions for account farmers to pad their stats with.

If theymos wants this place flooded by world wide scammy douche bags bloating the database to extreme levels then so be it.

As a user here though the price will be mods frustrated and taking it out on all of us and more rules being added.. Why do you think they banned giveaway topics.

If one section is bloating the database it will have to recouped at some point.

There is a flood and if no one wants to plug the hole in the damn then oh well I guess.
Let us drown in a sea of shit.
Although good users will just leave.. Leaving mass farmers here to circle jerk it up.

People do leave this forum because of how it's run and the idiots running rampant. 

Why do you think that?
That is like saying there is *good pyramid schemes.
Nope.

They are crooked by design for one thing.
This has been explained in a myriad of ways infinitely so does it need rehashing? Or will common sense suffice?

And my response to this topic is uhhh ohhhhhh.. A nooby is asking questions.
A bad sign hahhahahha

Ever heard of a company being transparent or accountable?
I do believe I have posted about that every single day here non stop.

Further more these are not companies nor are they suppose to be.
Know why Bitcoin is considered good?
Because it's decentralized.
ICO's are not..
They are a perverse scammy downgrade from Bitcoin.

Who buys into a scheme coin run by often small children using nameless forum accounts then does not hold their corporation accountable?

Oh I have a forum account here.. SPOETNIK INC.
WILL YOU ALL GIVE ME 100 MILLION DOLLARS NOW?

In the old days if a coin had a 2% premine everyone screamed scam..
Even if they had a basic ledger showing what the money was *allegedly* spent on..
Now we don't even have a simple bullet point fake list.

This shit is so fucking absurd it's astounding any of you bother even trying to defend it.
There is literally no aspect to any of this ICO bullshit that is defendable.

Yet again.. Some idiot NOOB screeches cawing like a crow..
Ohhhhhh but "some" are good..
Oh yeah? Well, which one?

No ICO has been successful at all in any way.
The closest any have come is Ethereum itself and that has been proven to be scammy in every way possible and with an adoption level that consists of nothing more than it being used as an ICO SCAM coin creation platform.. And if that was the intention of it then it's even more scammy then I ever imagined.

In other words your metric for success for an ICO is Ethereum.
Which by all accounts is a scammy gimmicky failure.
What makes Ethereum a "success"?
It's market price?
All of you out there know that means sweet fuck all.
Any scam coin can be pumped up in price.

This topic shows a guy asking questions..
AKA: He's a FUD'er Trolling... Get him!  

Actually it's a sign the facade is being exposed.
The ICO charade is cracking.
Just wait for the momentum to swing in the other direction.

Nope

For one thing all ICO's are scammy.
So nesting more ICO's inside more ICO's etc.. Is pure bullshit.
It's a scam with more scams inside it like a Russian doll of scam.
Counting the ICO's inside of ETH is misleading..
Because that is not ETH but something else..

So when people claim that it is in fact pure bullshit.

Compare ETH by itself vs Bitcoin then let's talk.

Well biting your finger nails for 6 hours a day is not good either..
But will it make me change genders?
Possible..
If someone made a subliminal video with messages telling to throw my hotdog in the waste basket it just might..
Some people are susceptible to hidden messages.

How many of you seen the hidden message in this very post?
Have an urge for pickles?
Ya.. I bet you do!

Although I loathe Trump and his supporters I do think a supporter of his would be a more appropriate choice here..
In other words I vote loud mouth aggressive troll.
Assuming that would provide a less restrictive uptight non-Hillary supporter environment.

I still don't know what the WO topic is either.
At no point in this topic did someone bothering explaining what it is..
..yet asked us to vote on it LOL

@Lauda
You oughta know by now..
Any women in a male dominated scene will get extra attention.
I take it at some point you failed to hide it.
And yeah I have posted telling these guys lots too hahhaha
I know of others that are known and female too.
I won't out them though.. At least now.

I just wanted to point out there may be more females coming..
I think I almost turned my self with sissy hypno porn
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1997638.msg19908380#msg19908380
It starts with sipping a glass with dinner then next thing ya know you're in an alley draining pipe..

Jolly found me out.. Someone call Hippie tech quick, he'll love this.

I think the moral of this story is money corrupts.
Vern started with good intentions but..

He likely had personal reasons coupled with his view that crypto was dying..
It was guy's.. NOOB's here now will have no clue that happened.
They are wrapped up in the new fantasy land of never ending raining ICO SCAM money now.
But i watched as BTC and every Altcoin was decimated for YEARS.
BITCOIN ITSELF WAS SUB $300 Instead of over a grand and rising..
User growth slowed to a crawl and many left..
Altcoin prices were slaughtered leaving tons of broke bag holders.
The climate in crypto was vastly different than it was now.
There is no way that did not factor into Vern's decision to leave.
And look at this way.. Guilty or not he still decided to leave when he did!

I also posted on here why I quit and how I figured Vern agreed with me.
Even BitJohn said he did when back in the start of 2014 he was still arguing..
That shitcoin support is good.
It's not.
It will collapse and what I kept saying all over is it's hard to feel sorry for greedy worthless selfish short sighted losers who show up here raping crypto for quick chump change profits.
Which is who flooded into crypto.. Not supporters.
But open mouth breathing baboons hell bent on profiting off of anything that was paying out.

Cryptsy pandered to these idiots while I kept lecturing them..
Would you give your kids candy every night for dinner?
Over and over all the Cryptsy guys cited "user demand"
So they could reap the reward while the going was good..
Then the kids got cavities..
I warned them not to pander to STUPID people.
They would not listen then it went to shit..
At that exact time Vern was doing his shit.. Setting up his exit.

This is why pandering is bad.
The people being pandered to will always turn on you eventually.
None of these people care about Cryptsy.
They are quislings.. Turn coats..
Shady money grubbing brats interested in one thing.
And that sure as fuck ain't supporting crypto.

So do I feel sorry for them?
Nope.. Not really.

Many knew better and refused to listen all the way up until Vern had to actually close the doors.
No matter how bad it got there was cheerleaders hell bent on sucking cock and crying FUD online.
So they could exploit people trying to leave by standing in the middle of the Doge coin exit ramp.
Those same assholes there at the end buying all the Doge coins to arb with are now playing victim on a class action lawsuit.. Looking for sympathy and demonizing Vern and staff.

They too must share some blame!

I warned people loud when GOX was pulling the same shit too..
It played out the exact same.

You all don't learn.
Or accept responsibility.
But it does not bother me that much because..
Many of you are cocky mouthy little mouthy brats.
I have been on the internet longer than many brats here have even been alive.. Jiggling their little dick holsters at me.

There is no age requirement here guys.
Which is why Polo shut down the chat box.
Stupid brats running wild.. Controlling crypto.

And Cryptsy was giving the keys to drive to the kidiot profiteers.
So I think if crypto kept getting better Vern would still be running Cryptsy right now.

Anyway..
I think the key may be to look at TX's between Cryptsy and Cryptsy China.
He had to have funded it and that should have some links to uncover..
That might shed more light on this and maybe even expose where he is.

You did?
Funny I never seen you there LOL

AND I TAKE OFFENSE!

What is wrong with being a sodomite?

Me I figure they will keep going as long as more idiots pile in giving them large business profits.
If they didn't jump ship during the great crypto recession then I doubt they will as it's rebounding right now.

You don't walk away from raining free money..
And the NOOBS stomped in here in crypto screaming take my money now.
All those ETH markets they have must have been a large money maker LOL

But yeah I bet over time they fuck people around more & more and..
They may be stealing from clients too.

PS:
I warned users about GOX and Cryptsy.. Both were obviously running a fractional reserve and struggling.
But right now some of these exchanges are raking in massive amounts of money.
Have a look at Coinbase...
Look at the companies billion dollar valuation and profits.

It really is raining shitcoin money.
I look forward to drinking the tears of the investards HAHAHAHA
You reap what you sow fuck heads!

Oh and a lot complaints are simply because too many NOOBS dipshits showed up in crypto too fast and services were not equipped for the demand.. This also happened at Cryptsy too.

So..
Did you predict the Mintpal and MCXnow too?
I can name others as well.. BTER for example has a bad rep of dicking users around too.  
Are you predicting shit for them also?

I've posted that on here before and I lean towards him moving to South America or some shit.
All of us are posting "he's in China" on this topic for a year or two..
And JollyGood if you red the first few pages here you'd have noticed that Vern is keenly aware of this topic

I think he would avoid touching the coins out of fear of them getting tracked and then having been found.

JOLLY
Your assertion greedy people do things is bullshit.
What do greedy people do?
Well.. If he does in fact have the private keys then the money is not going anywhere.
Then it becomes a matter of desire to spend.

I posted here long ago I think he got sick of it all and wanted out.
That was the driving force..
Coupled with a changing climate I harped on with his chat box..
He seen what I seen and cashed out and walked and did what many do when the titanic hits an iceberg..
And that is rip off shit on the way out the door.

JollyGood you are clueless grasping at straws here playing catch up.
I was watching since month one bud..
I know these people a hell of a lot better than you do.

Vern did not like the spotlight or dealing with people publicly..
He went on his chat box a couple times a year.
In video interviews he was shy and awkward.
He's not a bad guy and was always trust worthy until the end.
He made a mistake.. One of opportunity.

Making him out to be a monster who planned this scam out from day one is stupid.
He meant well but wanted out.. So he closed up shop.
And I too would have probably stolen all the money in the bank before I closed it.
I don't see that as surprising really.
Have you all sat on millions in money that you could take with no one watching?

He is guilty I think but let's be real.. He meant to run a service but things went to shit.
Many of you are forgetting when the so called hack happened crypto coin prices were dropping for 2 year steady more and more.. And users were drying up at Cryptsy.
So the situation from his own business perspective had to be fairly bleak.

I subscribe to the theory that he got sick of this shit and walked away..
He sure as fucking hell would not be the only one either..
I dumped all my BTC as It hit 1k each knowing the feeding frenzy and scammy coin cloning antics and rush of shit head NOOBS piling in would cause a deep recession... I kept saying it on Cryptsy chat and I know Vern heard me saying it.
Me and Vern walked at the same time pretty much..
And I was right.
Prices of alt's were decimated until mid 2016 when a new rush of retards rushed in fer teh roiz.
Even BTC hit sub 300 as I seen coming a mile away.

Many of you are off base on this clueless..

Theymos should hire a task force to hunt these douche bags down..

I want to know who supports Trump before I cast my vote!

I couldn't agree more..
I also seen I think theymos post here long ago you should make more accounts if you had something controversial to say.
When I read that I was rather surprised.

Staff here advocate the behavior.
They are likely guilty of it as well.

Me?

I have logged into and created one single account.
Why do I need others?

..there is no good reason

Any Altcoins that have ties / adoption with dark markets are at risk.
When bad news shows up it makes the anon coin etc look bad.

But did you all read the link?

From what i got from that was..
Alphabay is down.. AND.. Money was taken out as well!

So it's one thing for it to be down again since Tuesday.
But another when accounts were allegedly emptied.

Anyway no self respecting crypto coin should advocate DM usage.
I am not against it so much as I am just concerned with involvement with it is too risky.

People can & do regularly get arrested.. And that was the underlying point to the story.
And guess what?
For all we know Monero staff or Ethereum staff helped them get caught.

I am not against anything but an unrealistic false sense of security.
DM's are a problem waiting to happen..

Both roach's opinions and Lauda's extortion history are a matter of opinion.
She can no more accuse roach of posting nonsense than she can cast away the judgment of her past actions.
BOTH are a matter of opinion.
Of course a women would be offended by his sexuality commentary..
But it is in fact believable or more importantly it is to HIM.
HE HIMSELF BELIEVES WHAT HE POSTED.
So who is Lauda to declare roach's opinions nonsense?
Myself and others agree with him by the way.. At least in a way.

She doesn't want to be viewed as an extortionist but it is believable enough to some people who heard about the drama.

And I do tend to side with her on that too.
I am guessing she (or should I say it?) believed what she or it was doing was well intended regardless of the technical way she went about it.

Point being is I don't believe in calling a person a troll because you do not agree with their views.
She didn't use that word but others have and she implied it heavily.

Is freedom from negative judgment for you and when you need / want it?
..or for all?

Also the discussion taking place here should help show who is a more appropriate moderator of sorts.
A mod needs a balanced and unbiased fair view.
Is that what we see here with specific people?

Yes I agree.. With roach too.
I don't know what the WO topic is suppose to be about but if it has roach in it it can't be all bad LOL

Oh and don't vote Lauda.. She's is illuminati lizard people and worse... a chick.  

What was your password?
Since it was hacked it won't matter..

Did you look at the page here seclog.php?

DON'T BRING PROFIT INTO THIS!

Profit did nothing wrong LOL

I have no issues with people desiring profit from reasonably legit coins..
If they make a reasonable effort at being a supporter..
vs a vulture useless NOOB account profiteer money sucking leech.

Look in the mirror.. Are you contributing anything constructive to crypto?
What have you done to further the code or adoption of an actual real digital currency?

..kidiots this is not the US crypto ICO stocks exchanger.
I am not here to give you advices on which profits coins will give you teh ROI'S.
ON THE CONTRARY I'D BE HAPPY IF YOU LEFT BROKE.

And most of you will eventually LOL

PS:
You are wrong.. I said buy Litecoin when it was sub 3 dollars and you all mouthed me off and staff trashed my topic.. So....... Uhhh what's it worth now? 

Stupid NOOB hah hahaha

Yup suggesting transparency and accountability makes me a troll
See the negative rating I got from Monero shills.
Hint they negged me for asking questions. (transparency & accountability)

KLUGE
Attacked me randomly with 2 accounts sending me death threats.
I was stumped why.. I never talked to him before or been on the same topic.
It was weird.. I must have criticized his coin he was flogging with a NOOB ACCOUNT
..like the brat lipping me off above LOL

THEN WE HAVE VOD

Who doesn't like me so.. He negged me making up retarded bullshit.
He decided to be a cocky dick here so I posted a picture of him and a website report where Co workers accused him of being a pedophile.. So.....
He then promptly in return AFTER THE FACT negged me saying I was one.

REALITY:
My trust rating is flawless perfect and yes..
I am known here.. For having more class & integrity than most of you.

The fact is scammy shady douche bags here will neg you for asking for transparency and accountability.
They will attack you.. Call you a Troll.. Then say you post FUD (as though it was not deserved)

Monero  

I'll just leave this here..

https://www.neowin.net/news/alphabay-market-is-down-leaving-some-to-speculate-that-millions-have-been-stolen-from-users

Oh and Ethereum + Dark Markets.. remember?

Altcoin related?
Sort of  
The story has a Monero icon featured in the news picture.  

But oh noes I dun losted all mah crak moneyz
Ahahahaha silly chucklefucks LOL

Oh and I see this story a while back already.. They had down time before.

How about stop making pointless coins that actually make no attempt to even be a currency?

All I see is gimmicks tacked onto a block chain..
Such as Ethereum with App's or Steem with blogging.

The effort to create a CURRENCY that beats Bitcoin ended years ago.
Now we see nothing but "scheme" cons for profit.
Schemes as in they are not even intended in the first place to be a fucking currency

So yeah the scheme coin ponzi participants can all go at each other's throats for investard money for all I care.. Fuck 'em all

In other words..
The so called hatred has been about the facade being exposed.
Aside from Bitcoin scaling debates maybe..
Other than that it's garbage central and pointing it out makes bag holders mad.
Good.. Blow me.