Does anyone think mintpal will add vtc, can't believe its not on there already? I wont use cryptsy because of all the horror stories you hear but would like to get some VTC... Does anyone know if there are plans to list it on mintpal?
use poloniex, or use cryptsy its not that bad, only thing is they are slow Ive been using Cryptsy, and I don't really have any complaint other than speed. I don't feel that I have been scammed out of coins during trading or otherwise. |
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Is the new wallet available yet, and how does one move coins from the old wallet to the new one?
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I am able to manually enable the GPU's, but they show 0 KHs. If I try to use the restart command, they go offline.
How much system memory is needed? I was under the impression that all the mining was on the GPUs and the system ram was just to run the OS. Someone earlier recomended using 8Gb, but I don't understand why that would be needed. The host CPU isn't doing anything but passing packets between the GPUs and the pool or am I wrong?
If you completely remove the --gpu-engine and --gpu-memclock portion do all 4 of them work? Those settings may be a little high for the XFX cards, try leaving them out and if that works, add them back but at a much lower level, like 800. I'm not completely sure about the system memory part, I know scrypt-n uses more memory than just plan scrypt but I haven't had any problems with only 4GB per rig. Removing the engine/memory settings had no effect. I only got 1 out of 3 running, even at intensity 8. Notably, when running scrypt, the engine is set to 1200 and the memclock to 1350. Perfectly stable, runs for days generally. |
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I am able to manually enable the GPU's, but they show 0 KHs. If I try to use the restart command, they go offline.
How much system memory is needed? I was under the impression that all the mining was on the GPUs and the system ram was just to run the OS. Someone earlier recomended using 8Gb, but I don't understand why that would be needed. The host CPU isn't doing anything but passing packets between the GPUs and the pool or am I wrong?
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I downloaded the vertminer-0.5.3 and ran your exact command to bypass my CFG file.
3 out of 4 gpu's failed immediately and only 1 ran at single digit hashrate.
Try lowering the intensity to 11. Are you running 4 7850's on that rig? Not that it matters but what brand? I tried running with I=8, same problem. 3 out of 4 died immediately, although not the same ones as before. These are XFX 7850s. Im not 100% sure if they have 1G or 2G memory, ill have to wait till I get home to see the box. This is the settings I just tried again: "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1", "api-listen": true, "api-port" : "4028", "auto-fan" : true, "expiry" : "1", "gpu-dyninterval" : "7", "gpu-engine" : "1000", "gpu-fan" : "0-85", "gpu-platform" : "0", "gpu-memclock" : "1300", "gpu-powertune" : "0", "gpu-threads" : "2", "intensity" : "8", "lookup-gap" : "2", "no-pool-disable" : true, "no-submit-stale" : true, "queue" : "1", "scan-time" : "1", "temp-cutoff" : "85", "temp-hysteresis" : "1", "temp-overheat" : "80", "temp-target" : "75", "thread-concurrency" : "4096", "vectors" : "1", "worksize" : "256" |
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I downloaded the vertminer-0.5.3 and ran your exact command to bypass my CFG file.
3 out of 4 gpu's failed immediately and only 1 ran at single digit hashrate.
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my GPUs simply come up and report OFFLINE or DEAD, but going back to Scrypt seems to work fine.
Scrypt-N is more intensive and will tax your GPU to the max, chances are that your GPU settings are not stable enough so they keep crashing. It's somthing more than that, because I have several rigs which run scrypt fine. I converted to vertminer and they were all DEAD. I then tried a bunch of setting changes, including removing almost everything and letting vertminer choose the defaults. Still, everything comes up DEAD, even at intensity 8. Switching back to Scrypt, everything runs fine again and I get good hashrates at intensity 20. So, in summary, there is either a problem with how vertminer chooses default values, or with the scrypt-N running on certain brands/models of GPUs. Then it's a RAM issue, how many and what GPUs are you running and how much RAM are you using? usao: You do not need to have more than 4GB of RAM per rig, granted, the more the better but it will most likely not solve your problems. What version of vertminer are you using? The 5.2 version on the site does not seem to work, at least for me. I was only able to get 5.3 to work. Here is the link to the 5.3 download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5n70hj3izjj64y1/vertminer-0.5.3.zip. As for the 7850 settings... those are a bitch. Here are the settings I got to work and get about 140K from each. vertminer.exe --scrypt-vert -o stratum+tcp://stratum.vertco.in:8080 -u UserName -p Password -v 1 -w 256 -I 14 -g 2 --lookup-gap 2 --temp-overheat 85 --temp-cutoff 90 --gpu-engine 1000,1000 --gpu-memclock 1300,1300 --thread-concurrency 4096 Hope that helps. The pain in the ass is getting the thread-concurrency value right. Yes, im using 5.2. I would really rather not have to boost RAM if there is another option as I can only do that by taking another rig offline unless I go buy more which will take time and money. Did you try letting vertminer self-select the parameters including thread concurrency or did you have to manually specify them? These are the last set of params I tried to use (unsuccessfully) "api-allow" : "W:127.0.0.1", "api-listen": true, "api-port" : "4028", "auto-fan" : true, "expiry" : "1", "gpu-dyninterval" : "7", "gpu-engine" : "1200", "gpu-fan" : "0-85", "gpu-platform" : "0", "gpu-memclock" : "1350", "gpu-powertune" : "0", "gpu-threads" : "2", "intensity" : "13", "lookup-gap" : "2", "no-pool-disable" : true, "no-submit-stale" : true, "queue" : "1", "scan-time" : "1", "temp-cutoff" : "85", "temp-hysteresis" : "1", "temp-overheat" : "80", "temp-target" : "75", "thread-concurrency" : "8193", "vectors" : "1", "worksize" : "256" |
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Is this somthing which can be run under VMWare esxi (or converted to esxi)?
Correct me if im wrong, but isn't a personal p2pool the same thing as solo mining, ie, you get paid only for finding blocks and not by shares?
Hi, You'd probably be better off making a new image for esxi, since if you're technical enough to have an ESXi box, you're also technical enough to run just the coin daemons for the merge coins (monocled and parallaxcoind), sending your mined coins off using sendtoaddress and save the overhead of having a GUI desktop on the box (the virtualbox image I'm distributing is based on Ubuntu desktop 14.04). If you (or anyone else) fancies making an ESXi image and making it publicly available, that would be good - remember to remove the wallet.dat files before packaging for distribution though so they get regenerated by the user the first time they start it. A personal p2pool isn't the same as solomining - you're still getting paid for VTC shares (they are distributed on the p2pool sharechain). Your node is basically becoming part of one big distributed pool. Ha!, I don't think of ESXi as being highly technical, it's pretty simple and easy. That's what I run at home anyhow because it's FREE and basically brain-dead and you can't screw it up easily. I wouldn't mind making an image, just haven't tried doing the <coin>d tools before, which is why I was interested in the pre-built one. I get you on how the pool works. Im still trying to figure out how solo mining works. I know it involves somthing on the 127.0.0.1 loopback, but im not sure what I have to setup. I would like to try solo mining, at least once, to get a feel for it. Never seen a decent how-to document on it though, seems like most folks assume you already know how... |
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I don't think CPU will be a big issue, it should be quite light on that. The release is still being uploaded. Should be available in the next 30 minutes or so. Is this somthing which can be run under VMWare esxi (or converted to esxi)? Correct me if im wrong, but isn't a personal p2pool the same thing as solo mining, ie, you get paid only for finding blocks and not by shares? |
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Make one of the rigs 8GB RAM and it will magically work smooth  Ill try that tonight after work, thanks. |
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my GPUs simply come up and report OFFLINE or DEAD, but going back to Scrypt seems to work fine.
Scrypt-N is more intensive and will tax your GPU to the max, chances are that your GPU settings are not stable enough so they keep crashing. It's somthing more than that, because I have several rigs which run scrypt fine. I converted to vertminer and they were all DEAD. I then tried a bunch of setting changes, including removing almost everything and letting vertminer choose the defaults. Still, everything comes up DEAD, even at intensity 8. Switching back to Scrypt, everything runs fine again and I get good hashrates at intensity 20. So, in summary, there is either a problem with how vertminer chooses default values, or with the scrypt-N running on certain brands/models of GPUs. Then it's a RAM issue, how many and what GPUs are you running and how much RAM are you using? One rig has 4x Sapphire 2Gb 7850s and another rig has 4x PowerColor 2Gb 7870s. I don't know if system ram comes into play, I thought all the work was done on the cards, which are attached via 1x powered risers. However, if it does make a difference, each of my rigs (including the ones working correctly on VTC) have a single 4Gb stick. |
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my GPUs simply come up and report OFFLINE or DEAD, but going back to Scrypt seems to work fine.
Scrypt-N is more intensive and will tax your GPU to the max, chances are that your GPU settings are not stable enough so they keep crashing. It's somthing more than that, because I have several rigs which run scrypt fine. I converted to vertminer and they were all DEAD. I then tried a bunch of setting changes, including removing almost everything and letting vertminer choose the defaults. Still, everything comes up DEAD, even at intensity 8. Switching back to Scrypt, everything runs fine again and I get good hashrates at intensity 20. So, in summary, there is either a problem with how vertminer chooses default values, or with the scrypt-N running on certain brands/models of GPUs. |
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It's the only way you can mine more than VTC and MON atm.
Yea, but HOW? Ive never seen a writeup on how to do this, unless you can point me to some guide, I won't be able to. |
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are any of these alternative algorithms more profitable than scrypt for GPU mining right now? my daily scrypt profits on a 2MH/s rig are dwindling and will be less than power costs before long
I did find a miner called yacminer which does normal scrypt, Scrypt-N, Scrypt-Jane all in one program. I switched to VTC about 1.5 months ago and doubled my $/day. These alternative script coins seem to be fairing better than plain scrypt. Ive got a total of 7 GPU rigs, with 2 on VTC/MON and the other 5 running on scryptguild.com Getting what I feel is a decent return, my rigs reached ROI back in Feb, even including electricity. It's not going to be worth it for me to setup AC for my rigs though, so I have been starting to dial-back the intensity when it get's hot (in the garage). What I need to do is get all my rigs converted to Scrypt-N/Jane and I should be good for a while longer. |
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Scrypt-N Hashrate: 1.25 MH/s
Mining: Vertcoin, Monoclecoin, Parallaxcoin
Duration: 24 hours
P2Pool Network: 1
VTC Payout: 5.3 VTC (4.24 USD)
MON Payout: 25 MON (? USD)
PLX Payout: 600 PLX (10.74 USD)
Total = 14.98 USD
Things are starting to look up for GPU miners! I can't wait to be mining over 10-20 coins at once! ^_^
Man, I have 900KHs and only get 2 VTC/day Hang in there! I was not getting anything then BAM! Kept getting VTC payments, then two PLX blocks found, then a MON block, and two more PLX. Keep in mind you are solo mining so a lot of it is luck. Actually I am using give-me-coins pool with 4 GPUs. I may not have optimal tuning though. I actually have no idea how to solo-mine, it sounds interesting but just never figured out how to do it. |
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Scrypt-N Hashrate: 1.25 MH/s
Mining: Vertcoin, Monoclecoin, Parallaxcoin
Duration: 24 hours
P2Pool Network: 1
VTC Payout: 5.3 VTC (4.24 USD)
MON Payout: 25 MON (? USD)
PLX Payout: 600 PLX (10.74 USD)
Total = 14.98 USD
Things are starting to look up for GPU miners! I can't wait to be mining over 10-20 coins at once! ^_^
Man, I have 900KHs and only get 2 VTC/day |
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Is there a single cgminer capable of mining all these coin types, or are they separate programs?
Can anyone point me to where I can find these for either Windows or Linux?
If not cgminer, is there an alternative GPU/CPU oriented miner available?
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Now that is dirty, but doesn't really screw over the miners does it? There is currently no solution for more than 2 coins being mined, unless you run your own node. Yes it does, based on the current value of 365coin, he has taken away more than 10+ BTC He even cleaned our transaction history in his mining pool (though we all have proof for it). Damn... That's why I just try to stay off pools or nodes with a high concentration of miners. They are a risk from hackers and dirty operators. Set up your own node and mine MON, PLX, and VTC ^_^ Ive heard that MON can be multi-mined along with VTC. The pool im using "give-me-coins" doesn't aparently do that. Is there a different pool I should be looking at to get more value for my hashing? |
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Ive not been very successfull in getting my existing GPU Scrypt miners to run vertminer.
I only have a few GPU's actually working properly. Most of my GPUs simply come up and report OFFLINE or DEAD, but going back to Scrypt seems to work fine.
Is there anyone out there with a working vertminer.conf file for the XFX 7850 and the Sapphire 7870 cards?
My R9-280x and HD7950's seem to work fine with minor tweaks to the Scrypt (cgminer.conf) settings, but these (somewhat older) cards just won't launch or run, even when I leave the vergminer.conf mostly blank and allow vertminer to choose settings.
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Cool, thanks. I wasn't aware of the new websites/thread. As I mentioned, there was over 100 pages of material since I last checked into this thread, so easy to miss something. |
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