IE if you can't make your point in 2 sentences people are not going to read your shit, like me.
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Is this better for you...take your coins and your people and go. Because the effect of you leaving will not come close to the effect of me dumping all MY coins, and believe me I have a hell of a lot of coins. That should be a small enough soundbite for you.... |
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OPEN LETTER
Iconic I'm going to address you
You have taken over this forum, most of this forum is littered with your projects, ideas, and negative and destructive rants. These ideas always have a pricetag that the community ships in for. Coming from someone that has donated to your project I would appreciate it if you could tone your self down.
Stop with them against me and you against them mentality, YOU ARE HURTING EVERYONE.
You seem to not understand that you are helping with one hand and destroying with another. People want YOU to bring Ideas forward, comment, be engaged but the way you're going about it sometimes brushes people off the wrong way and is destructive. Please dont tell me how such a marketing genious you are cause with this attitudes your doing the total opposite. You are ultimately hurting the brand. I came to this community to help, bring fresh Ideas and bring some big players and your actions have caused some of my people to step back. This is the reason Im coming forward to address you. While your getting girls to go to wall street to do your gorilla campaign, I got the people that pay these people to trade their stocks, I got the real entertainers the real producers and I have over 25 years in the industry. I don't hide behind a computer, I come out and show face. When I asked you to come forward to address so called "Transparency issues and your projects" your were to busy. Why are you to busy to promote your projects and address transparency, LIVE ON TELECAST, You are always here glued to this forum. If you got time for 2000 character rants Im sure you have time to speak live. I was going to send you an email but since you want transparency well here you have it.
You have turned my people to think this is a joke and have cast doubt in the people that open the doors for me to see this great community. If youre selfish acts continue guess what you will get your way, you will solely destroy the confidence of serious people that dont care about people spating over gimmicks. If you want to help this community stay in your lane, do your projects, raise your funds but don't throw hard working people under the bus and cast doubt, that my friend is counterproductive.
My actions will speak for themselves but if I continue to see this reckless behavior on your part I will walk away with my people, events and all investments planned.
very nice response +1 Thank you for your comments, but please stop with the FUD and the fake outrage. Also please do not insult the intelligence of this community. This targeting me as the problem is just nonsense and a smoke screen. I challenge this community to look through all my previous posts and look at why I respond the way I do to certain members. I am not going to sit quietly and allow people to change facts, personally attack me, or accuse me of illegal behavior. Someone blatantly lied and said my IP was from India and that I live in India. When I provided enough proof I am not from India, where were the apologies or the posts from you asking to be civil? I am not going to address everything you wrote because most of it is BS and I have been up all night working. I am sorry that some of the angry and fed-up people who PM me daily do not want to come out publicly because they do not want to be attacked. So I have been speaking for them. They are tired of the BS and they are tired of how BC is being controlled. I proposed a plan for transparency and the Foundation announces a marketing plan the same day that involves donating $15,000 to hire a PR firm that they can't tell us about. This is how it has been for the past several weeks. The community currently doesn't have any say in what is going on with BC. Also, I will publicly say the dev team and the foundation doesn't have a clue what they are doing...period. A few members already pointed out all of the media attention BC has been getting lately has been from other members efforts. Now I have had enough with the threats from you and certain members regarding leaving. Please..and I sincerely mean this..please take your people and go. Because the effect of you leaving will not come close to the effect of me dumping all MY coins, and believe me I have a hell of a lot of coins. You should have realized no man would work as hard as I do for BC and not hold a large stake in this coin. I am not working 15 hours a day and focusing primarily on BC for a few hundred thousand BC. If the most vocal advocate for BC starts dumping how long will it take for others to start? There are 30-40 people that have publicly and privately vowed to go if I leave. I do not bluff and I most certainty do not lie... People have a short memory and that is fine. But if you think it was the dev team or the foundation that took us from 1500BC when I first started promoting BC, to our current level now then you are a fool. There are people in this community who want control given back to the community. They no longer want the foundation speaking for BC, nor do they want the dev team controlling the direction of BC. If the foundation and the dev team are not trying to control BC, then they should have no problem handing control over back over to the community...period |
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I actually trade the coins every night or every two nights. I am not making any profit off the donations. However, one member specifically asked me not to trade his donation in until a few days before the event. I respected his wishes
Let me get this straight, people donate money to you for a campaign and you GAMBLE it? I dont think thats appropriate behaviour under ANY circumstance. Thats borderline Fraud and your credibility totally out of the window. This time you threw yourself under the bus. I understand there might be a language barrier so I will try again. I trade the coins every night or two into fiat. I trade the coins it into dollars since I can't pay for the services in BlackCoin. I have no clue if the price is going to go up or down, so I have to convert the coins every few days. That's why we shouldn't donate in BC Just kidding  A lot of people donate in BTC but the problem still remains the same. I have to convert whatever currency into dollars. I do not sell the BC all at once because I do not want create sell pressure. I sell a little at a time. Alrighty, so with the blackcoin address > http://explorer.blackcoin.co/address/BQQsUdYaqCGUDhdXPADto1gKwvEA2a92TPWe have over 58k blackcoin sent to the cause~ great! Now checking the bitcoin address > http://blockexplorer.com/address/12jhNVMj5kk7akem2wxDwnpQvGdro3NzJ4So there is over 22 btc sent for the cause! So, that is, (give or take a few btc away, since IE sold every once in a while for BC) around 38 btc.. Calculating that in today's price Using Bitstamp price that's = $16,682 USDSo, that's over $12,000 USD, which means we have a camera crew and the wallstreet stuff a-go ? I hope this is true, since.. what else would the funds be used as? Good job guys!  Awesome job, IconicExpert Can't wait for the event to happen~! Hi...Thank you for your comments but your calculations are inncorrect. The BTC address is my coindesk address and everything is sent to that address. As for the BC address you have to start calculating from the point of when I announced the event. In total (rounding up) we have raised $4100... no where close to $16,000. |
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Google NDA (Non-disclosure agreement)
You guys say your serious and professionals but you still ask why they didnt mention the name of the PR agency.
Pathetic really pathetic
Google NDA (Non-disclosure agreement)
Ok I am going to bite because you make it too easy. I have never heard of a PR firm requiring a client not to disclose publicly that the client may or may not sign with said PR firm. This is counterintuitive to the business model of a PR firm. PR firms love it when potential clients announce they are considering their firm because it gives them free PR. I can understand an NDA to restrict discussing the particulars of the contract, but an NDA to not disclose the name of the PR firm you are considering is the first me. |
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I actually trade the coins every night or every two nights. I am not making any profit off the donations. However, one member specifically asked me not to trade his donation in until a few days before the event. I respected his wishes
Let me get this straight, people donate money to you for a campaign and you GAMBLE it? I dont think thats appropriate behaviour under ANY circumstance. Thats borderline Fraud and your credibility totally out of the window. This time you threw yourself under the bus. I understand there might be a language barrier so I will try again. I trade the coins every night or two into fiat. I trade the coins it into dollars since I can't pay for the services in BlackCoin. I have no clue if the price is going to go up or down, so I have to convert the coins every few days. That's why we shouldn't donate in BC Just kidding A lot of people donate in BTC but the problem still remains the same. I have to convert whatever currency into dollars. I do not sell the BC all at once because I do not want create sell pressure. I sell a little at a time. |
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I actually trade the coins every night or every two nights. I am not making any profit off the donations. However, one member specifically asked me not to trade his donation in until a few days before the event. I respected his wishes
Let me get this straight, people donate money to you for a campaign and you GAMBLE it? I dont think thats appropriate behaviour under ANY circumstance. Thats borderline Fraud and your credibility totally out of the window. This time you threw yourself under the bus. I understand there might be a language barrier so I will try again. I trade the coins every night or two into fiat. I trade the coins it into dollars since I can't pay for the services in BlackCoin. I have no clue if the price is going to go up or down, so I have to convert the coins every few days. |
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what's counts it's THAT IT IS ACTUALLY DONE....not just posted on a web site..
and notice 10000$ for a wallstreet event including 1000 BalckCoin Cards and flyers that will be distributed....not counting people involved and t-shirts..also when you give someone something tangible they will play with it and research more......
that's cheap a pop....
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15000$ for a PR plan....it's just a plan...
Anw forgot to add for those against Iconic.. with this event I'm pretty sure, his not making any profit at all beside the BC value that he might hold...but that will profit to all of us It's a no brainer investment for me.... I actually trade the coins every night or every two nights. I am not making any profit off the donations. However, one member specifically asked me not to trade his donation in until a few days before the event. I respected his wishes |
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 Here is another one just in case the first three wasn't enough. |
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New York Papers Here In India...     These pics are dedicated to my troll fan club and the people who are bitter and envious because I make the hard stuff look easy.
Now you can post all the FUD you want, make all the asinine comments if it makes you feel better, but I am not going anywhere..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddtfoiaWGqs#t=10.
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IconicExpert, I think that the donations raised for your event are more than enough now. Can you please confirm?
If so, I think it would be good now to direct community donations (plus the additional money from the donations to your event) towards the Soepkip proposal.
What do you think?
And why do you assume that? Last count was less than $4000, I didn't check this morning yet but I doubt we raised over $6000 in 24 hours. |
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Anyway, I just sold up all my BC. I really don't want to think my investment is riding on whether some dude (IronicExpert) is an Indian with a fake wife or some egotistical New Yorker, too much is riding on his bullshit either way.
Cya quark master. Crypto currency is decentralized you need to deal with that. If you think that IE is doing bad while you could do better? Yea is just easier sold all and move elsewhere when you can add nothing from your self to community to beat Soepkip IE Marks Blade87... go and look your perfect safe bay. GL anyway. I've contributed to community efforts for other coins... Anyway the fact is that no-one has received their Blackcoin card yet, and the same person behind that is now raising money for a publicity event. I'd like to see a video of these cards if anyone gets them. Are the graphics painted on to look like it has a chip? If so it will look pretty stupid. And until this guy provides more information about himself he may vanish rather than stage this Wall St event. Ok now this is just getting ridiculous. I told everyone when the cards would be shipping out and when they would start receiving them. If you think I purchased 360 cards and took pictures of all 360 cards in their wrappers for an elaborate scam then you sir need help. WOW... |
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Anyway, I just sold up all my BC. I really don't want to think my investment is riding on whether some dude (IronicExpert) is an Indian with a fake wife or some egotistical New Yorker, too much is riding on his bullshit either way.
So the options are Indian with fake wife, or Egotistical New Yorker? I think I am going to change my name to IconicEgo since that seems the be the basis of every debate now..  You have issue with my personality which is fine, but you do not have issue with a group of boys smoking weed on a livecast while representing BlackCoin? Nor do you have issue with them asking for $15,000 for a project but refuse to disclose the name of the PR firm they want to hire? I might be an a.ss.ole at times, my ego might need its own zipcode every now and then, but I never did an interview and made BlackCoin look bad, nor have I ever presented a project to this community without giving full details. And for the record some people here need to stop with the fake outrage and comments like: "Iconic your behavior is ...insert FUD here".. I am not going to sit around while people post egregious nonsense about me and not defend myself. I am not going to be "bullied" or "intimidated" on a forum. It is very easy to see how this all transpired if go back to when they first made their announcement. You will clearly see this was an organized effort by a group of people. 10 vs 1...is kind of pathetic... |
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Getting really sick of the nastiness in this thread. There is a reason most discussion has moved elsewhere.
I purchased a BC Card, and I have donated to the WallSt promotion. I have also donated to the PR Firm fund.
I would really prefer the backbiting and garbage here just stopped. If you can't get on board and work harmoniously (and this is the buzzword) then just check yourself out.
I've been very impressed by IE's work in the past, but the nastiness here is completely ridiculous. We have donation addresses for BOTH initiatives, and clearly people can vote with their feet. This goes for other posters undermining his initiatives.
What the hell do you think you are achieving by kicking each other in the shins?
Pull your fucking heads in, all of you. If you want more donations for worthwhile initiatives, you aren't going to get more of mine by bitching about the others ideas.
Set your negative campaigning aside, and sell on the merits.
I honestly can't believe this needs to be said.
Please go back to when they first made the announcement. I asked a two legitimate questions, I didn't post FUD nor was a rude. That is when the personal attacks started... |
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I had to quote this shit before you erased it
You do realize that you had dick all to do with the price increase? You can see the exact moment when the price started to rise was when the announcement about the PR firm hit, it had nothing to do with your cancer cards that are nothing more than a cheap chinese manufactured gimmick you delusional twat. Your "Coindesk" article didn't talk about BC for shit, was lumped in with a bunch of other news and generally so buried and so fucking who gives a shit, because it was talking about your useless fucking toys.
You didn't make any one money, you didn't do anything useful other than thoroughly get embarrassed all day. If you think you have any influence over anything other than your big mouth, you are seriously mistaken and the community is damn close to abandoning you like an excised tumor. Like you said the only thing the coin desk article did was fuel your own sales you selfish, selfish man. You have no interest in promoting BC, just your own "ideas" that are just generic knock offs and crap.
I mean this isn't wild speculation we can literally go look at the fucking timestamps.
Please stop you are embarrassing yourself. So lets see...news about BlackCoin cards hit CoinDesk late Friday evening, and sales go up by 50% in less than 3 hours, but that has no affect on the price of BC? However, the post on a forum about possibly signing with a PR firm that name has not been disclosed made the price increase? If that was the case why didn't the price increase when BC was added to the Vault Of Satoshi? Also...the personal attacks are just sad. But like I said I am many things but I am not a liar nor am I a con. The best way to silence people who spread FUD is with the truth. It is 5:59 AM here...I am patiently waiting for my local store to open... Can you figure out what I will be doing next...?? |
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Why not identify to everyone? Why do you attack so many people in this community?
If you were truly a business professional, you would not sit here and cry and whine like a petulant child. If this is how you act in the real business world, with your BOLD RED TEXT THATS 50 FONT SIZES TOO BIG, then I doubt you have gotten very far.
All of your promotions are egotistical self centered and are solely focused around pushing your own shit product.
You are nothing but a snake oil salesman, taking away from the real community to feed your own ambitions of glory and worship.
In short, you are toxic, your agenda is toxic, and your "PROMO" is thinly veiled advertisement for your own greed and product.
If you had any decency you would apologize, step down, and get the fuck out so we can move on with our fucking lives, you useless piece of internet noise.
You guys are starting to sound like broken records...you focus so much on my "ego" and personality to the point it seems that is your only argument. Every post refers to my "ego"..This is more about envy than substance. If you spent more time coming up with good ideas, and spent less time focusing on me and my ego, we would not be having this silly debate. Just embrace the fact that some people are better at certain things than you. It is not my fault I make it look easy, it is just years of experience. CoinDesk's article about the BlackCoin cards went live yesterday evening, sales of the cards instantly went up, and BC started trading higher, and now everyone's portfolio is more valuable than yesterday this time. My huge ego just made you money....so just say thank you. |
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Wow, the nerve of some people... Btw 3 minutes of googling led me to this -- Your so called genius magical blackcoin cards are really just this: http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/cheap-usb-business-card_1547591954.html?s=phttp://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Customzied-usb-business-card-full-printing_545775999.html?s=pThey cost about 1-3 dollars to make, and the company will even print the logo on for you (HOW ABOUT THAT!) Oh and you even managed to steal Wizfarms graphic, and purposefully leave on the RFID chip PRINTED graphic (this has caused so much confusion in people think this card is actually worth something-- the only reason people are writing about this garbage is because they think you have a fucking debit card which you don't, you so clearly don't.. you tried but failed and decided to make a useless usb wallet.) In fact, I will release a package you can put on a USB stick and turn ANY OLD THUMBDRIVE in to a BLACKCOIN CARD (WOW) It doesn't take much. Your "BC PROMOTIONS" have been nothing but selfish stunts to promote ONLY YOUR OWN VENTURES. You have so far managed to talk about ONLY YOUR OWN PRODUCT AND NOTHING ELSE. People like you are a cancer, you are so shady, you talk about transparency, but you won't fucking identify or show your face?? Why do you log on to IRC with indian IP addresses -- the same IP address that is shared across multiple user in the IRC rooms (shills much?) 16:14 IconicExpert has joined (b497d3fe@gateway/web/freenode/ip.180.151.211.254) 16:14 IconicExpert has left IRC (Client Quit) 16:17 BiTMiND: iconicexpert and papkol sharing ip 16:17 BiTMiND: (from india) Feel free to WHOIS the IP to prove it for yourselves. You've done nothing but lie, manipulate and try to hoard the spotlight, all the while taking away from the people who are actually trying to develop something amazing. You have turned something that's supposed to be about the COMMUNITY and EVERYONE and turned it in to your own personal rage pedestal. All those quotes you made about power slipping away is so deliciously ironic, that you can physically taste it. You willingly misled people about what your card did and how much it cost to manufacture and produce (it was a day of work tops.) The only thing you did was fill out an order with a chinese supplier. You yammer on about how no one is donating to development, yet I haven't heard a single thing come out of your mouth about putting any modicum of effort or financial power towards development, only for your little ego centric goals which happen to focus around your crappy little card (notice how every event of his he asks for giant sums of money to push his own product, the cards which are just cheap little 2 dollar usb drives from alibaba.) Please feel free to reply to this with all sorts of bold text, colored red and cute little youtube videos while melting down in front of the whole community. 1. You know things are getting desperate when people are creating fake accounts just to post. 2. If you think the cards cost just $3 to make then by all means make the cards yourself and lets see how that works out for you. 3. I wasn't aware wiz designed the first credit card with a chip from the 1990s, because his design was just a credit card replaced with some leather background and BC artwork. Put both designs front and back against each other and anyone can clearly see they are different. 4. CoinDesk knows exactly what the card is and what it does, and they even went into detail on how the cards works. I guess reading comprehension is not one of your strong points. 5. As for my IP being from India...I do not know if I should laugh or feel real sorry for your sad attempt at trying to discredit me. I was born and raised in NYC and I can tell you where to buy the best Pizza in Brooklyn (Di Fara), the best steak in Manhattan (Del Frisco's), and the best overall restaurant to take a woman if you want to make an impression (Four Seasons Restaurant). 6. Am I hiding? The reporter from CoinTelegraph called my personal cell phone and talked with me for 30 minutes. BTW--My Cell starts with a 212 number. I am one of the only people in the tri-state area that has a 212 cell # because 212 is exclusive to Manhattan, almost never assigned to a cell phone. But thank you for making the point I have been making for nearly a week. You and the little group that are pretending to be "professionals" are a bunch of kids trying to run a multi-million dollar project. Kids that smoke drugs on podcasts and create fake accounts on a forum. You can try and put all the focus on me but the facts are the facts. In the past month all of the news about BlackCoin has been about the efforts of others and the core team. No matter how much BS you post about me you can't change history and I know that can be hard to accept at times. |
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. I made up this whole thing and I am punking everyone. I am really going to use the money to buy a mail order bride... At the rate I am going I will be able to order two brides!!!
