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921  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Crypti - XCR - Ͼ - 3 PoS algorithms - Ed25519 - Next Gen New Source - Launched! on: August 27, 2014, 08:48:01 PM
I am sorry to put gas on flame guys, but i have enough of this shit!

What is wrong with you rabbiter? What are you trying to achive? Why are you so keen telling us this is scam? I mean, you really took some time and effort and you are insulting everyone here.
I dont think you goal here is so nobel and that you are trying to »save« our investment. It looks like your goal is only to harm Crypti! Maybe iam wrong but your negativity shows different. You swould use different approach if you really care about that.

Anyway, that is why i have decided to make a deal with you. So this is what you are going to do:
You will send me your full name, address and mobile phone number.
I will call you sometime this week. After i am absolutely sure who you are and where you live - i will find an trusted escrow and give him 0.5 BTC. And you are also going to give him BTC, just 10times more, so 5 BTC.
I am offering this deal only because of your constant claims that Crypti is a scam. And because you are so sure about it, this deal is nobrainer for you, right?
So if the devs as you claim dissapear, you will get all your money back + my 0.5BTC, otherwise i get all the BTC! What do you say free money for you, isnt it?

Please send me PM with all requested info and also let me know what time should i call you.


He will never do that because he is full of shit and talking out his ass.
922  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 27, 2014, 06:50:43 PM
Glad to see bittrex did the right thing and that this scammer won't be getting paid this time. Kudos to bittrex.
923  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 27, 2014, 03:50:50 AM
Crypto Asian ‏@CryptoAsian  15m
$CLSTR update: I have chosen to decline to proceed in the Proof of Developer process with the Clustercoin dev team.  1/2

Crypto Asian ‏@CryptoAsian  15m
I will not be releasing information that has been gathered about the Clustercoin dev team, nor will I do it for any other developers 2/2

Saw that.. what fuck does that even mean? He doesn't want to cop flak anymore?

he means the devs FAILED. and bittrex should refund all you guys who didn't panic sell. FucK YEAh!!!  

Edit - No, he only means that he's NEVER giving up any devs personal info to you butthurt losers. lol...

Yeah there is really nothing more to it now. Bittrex said they were waiting for PoD and that if it is not done then they will refund. PoD did not and is not coming so it is time to refund. I thought all the conditions were supposed to have been met within 3 days of launch, also? Which they most certainly have not.
924  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 26, 2014, 03:01:07 PM

It's too late. It has already been longer than allowed.

And really... William? That name does not match the twitter account he is trying to claim is his... and if your name is William perhaps you might speak English better?
925  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 26, 2014, 02:59:02 PM
How many days has it been now? No PoD and market disabled on bittrex or almost two days now. Terms have not been met, we can't even trade the coin that was launched less than 4 days ago..
926  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [UNMODERATED] CLUSTERCOIN Topic [OPEN DISCUSSION] on: August 25, 2014, 03:11:41 PM
The market has been disabled for over a day now.. was that part of the terms of their agreement? I don't think so.. Something is obviously wrong with the coin and so the ICO should be returned.
927  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 25, 2014, 05:56:41 AM
Why was trading shut down?
928  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 24, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
I think the whole "here is our code, look over it" thing was so that people could check for themselves that there was no hidden premine or something along those lines. It was clear, looking at the dev timeline, that the features were not going to be implemented at the beginning.
I don't think anyone is calling into question the development timeline.  But it certainly seems despite what the dev may claim that he's using a purchased user account, the lack of any sort of communication just screams scam.  The technical jargon responses is mumbo jumbo intended to fool the non-technical folks.

This whole thing if it was legit would be handled in an entirely different manner.  I don't have much faith in the PoD stuff, who's to say they don't just buy some id online or use the fake name generator site.  Instead of PoD, lets see some proof of activity, some proof of commitment, anything... videos, some more detailed posts on the project plan.  The dev doesn't even sound all that excited about their great IPO etc.

I really hope this is "real" and not a scam, but unfortunately all evidence points to the contrary at this point.  I was a believer up until I pulled their off the shelf code to put a daemon up on my pool to mine it, and compiled the Qt wallet on Linux.  These guys can't even build a basic wallet that works right cross-platform.

You very well could be right. But at this point, the only way the price will rebound and ICO investors will get their money back is if the coin ends up not being a scam, the project moves forward, and the promised developments are achieved. It is all or nothing at this point, either it is a scam or it is not. Continuously speculating about how it might be a scam does not change anything, if anything it just makes things worse because if it is not a scam and people are falsely implying that it is then they are making it much harder for new people to become interested in the coin..
929  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 24, 2014, 06:01:35 PM
I would like to comment on the whole situation regarding scam accusations.

The plan was to offer 7m coins and let the market decide how much coins will be bought. However, some people have demanded to abolish this approach and limit the supply by destroying coins. 3.5m coins were destroyed shortly after. 14 hours before the ICO end we have asked Bittrex to destroy additional 1.5m coins as we were concerned about the potential last minute hype. However, this was not coordinated properly and the coins were not destroyed. To our surprise, last minute hype happened and the ICO was sold out. This is not necessarily bad, however it created a situation that many investors bought into the ICO hoping for the price to rise immediately after which didn’t happen.

We would like to remind everyone that the ICO was about selling a stake in our ClusterCoin idea, which we still have to develop. It was not about making a quick buck for ICO investors and we are thankful to those that believe in the idea. We are committed to realize our plan but it needs time and the things cannot be done in 1 or 2 days as some of you are demanding. Moreover, the current scam accusations are making it harder to focus on the development as a lot of time is devoted to read and clean the mess that is going on. Please, let us develop the coin and put aside groundless accusations. It is not easy to deliver a plan we have set forth and by no means is it a sure thing. However, the current situation is making it much more difficult If you have invested in the coin because you like the idea please be patient, we will release updates as they become available. Any posts that are not development related will be moderated.

Thank you for your understanding.
This is not a direct insult but take it as you want. Here's the problem:

"Knowing about recent frauds, we decided to make this coin as transparent as possible and instead of posting Source Code at the last moment before the launch - we decided to use our proprietary launch scheme. We are launching coin with premine in 1st block, and 0 block rewards during the ICO stage. You will have a whole ICO period to inspect the source code and make reasonable decisions about your investments.  

https://github.com/ClusterCoin/ClusterCoin"

As looked up by ocminer thats just a copy clone code with nothing new added. So what was the plan there?

No changes occurred in last 8 days. While there was been a lot of "spam" there should be some progress right?

I have posted twice and thrice asking you the reason for wanting funding for a coin which doesn't even has a PoC. There hasn't been none. Do you really think people should pay 350 BTC for an "idea?"

Lastly, I have asked and been +4 supported that you post a video of your MATLAB simulation. You have ignored that post too. So while we get development is difficult but this kind of things are sketchy.

Yes, it is no secret that we didn't implement any of the features that we are planning to do. For now the code is still a fork of bitcoin. We are open about this and before the ICO we have posted the approximate timeline. We will not deliver any significant updates in the following few days.
No you werent clear, the whole "we post our code here" was to gain people's trust. While people were aware of the coin being "in development", whats unexpected is the fact the code you posted is the vanilla code with no branches or public activity.

Again, it is not a big deal if you can share a video of your Matlab simulation/WIP.

I think the whole "here is our code, look over it" thing was so that people could check for themselves that there was no hidden premine or something along those lines. It was clear, looking at the dev timeline, that the features were not going to be implemented at the beginning.
930  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Beta Invites | Profit Share 14% | 1 Million coins on: August 23, 2014, 08:22:00 PM
Randomness

1. First to use press releases for alt coins.
2. First to place functional crypto wallets on USB cards.
3. Conceived the POD (Proof of Developer) concept.
4. First to do a crypto sweepstakes/lottery.

Now what have you done besides invest in 3 shitcoins?




How about you include the text of my quote so that we don't lose context? It is cute how you have to manipulate every little interaction, though.

I detect a sociopath

Oh and if we are saying that peoples only claims to fame are what is in their BTCtalk signature... then your only claim to fame is your twitter account? Wow! I thought anybody could make one of those!? I guess my only claim to fame are three coins which I've been too lazy to remove from my sig!

Idiot. Not everybody shares all of their life accomplishments on twitter or BTCtalk. In fact, I would say the majority of people do not divulge all of their life accomplishments on online forums and social media.. unless they are egotistical sociopaths.


You: "Now what have you done besides invest in 3 shitcoins?"
Already said by me: " I guess my only claim to fame are three coins which I've been too lazy to remove from my sig!"

You: "1. First to use press releases for alt coins.
2. First to place functional crypto wallets on USB cards.
3. Conceived the POD (Proof of Developer) concept.
4. First to do a crypto sweepstakes/lottery."

Already said by me: "Idiot. Not everybody shares all of their life accomplishments on twitter or BTCtalk. In fact, I would say the majority of people do not divulge all of their life accomplishments on online forums and social media.. unless they are egotistical sociopaths. "

So apparently you did not even read what I said before responding?

Either way, see this part:

"Not everybody shares all of their life accomplishments on twitter or BTCtalk. In fact, I would say the majority of people do not divulge all of their life accomplishments on online forums and social media.. unless they are egotistical sociopaths."

I don't share my life accomplishments with strangers on BTCtalk because my greatest accomplishments have nothing to do with lil altcoin play toys.
I don't consider investing in any altcoin an "accomplishment"- accomplishments take a certain level of thought and work and aren't mainly dependent on luck.

But man, those are some really great accomplishments you have there IE. Wow. Maybe you should get a Nobel?

I work as a biochemist, and I could bore you about specific accomplishments but somehow I doubt you will appreciate them.. But that doesn't matter, because the field of biochemistry appreciates them. And the field of biochemistry is much, much more valuable and important than these little altcoin games, most of which won't survive into the next year (next month?). So go ahead, keep-up your groundbreaking contributions to altcoins. I'm sure they will change the world...

Oh and you forgot to include your series of scams as part of your accomplishments- those probably netted you the most money, right?

Okay, okay I'll give a hint:

I design fluorescent and flouorogenic probes for highly specific labeling of low-abundance RNAs for use in single-molecule microscopy studies.
931  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Beta Invites | Profit Share 14% | 1 Million coins on: August 23, 2014, 08:03:24 PM
I agree. Let's do this. Dev has proven himself, you have proven yourself - time for the coin to get the attention and the price it deserves.

Less than 1 BTC till 20,000. This puppy is set to blow!
I could have sold a long time ago, but I refuse to sell because I know CLD is severely undervalued and I rather hold than sell for peanuts.

So you haven't sold? How does it feel to be a bag-holder IE? Or did you sell, and you are a liar? Which is it? Liar or bag-holder? Which is a bigger blow to your ego?
932  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Beta Invites | Profit Share 14% | 1 Million coins on: August 23, 2014, 07:56:21 PM
I detect a sociopath

Oh and if we are saying that peoples only claims to fame are what is in their BTCtalk signature... then your only claim to fame is your twitter account? Wow! I thought anybody could make one of those!? I guess my only claim to fame are three coins which I've been too lazy to remove from my sig!

Idiot. Not everybody shares all of their life accomplishments on twitter or BTCtalk. In fact, I would say the majority of people do not divulge all of their life accomplishments on online forums and social media.. unless they are egotistical sociopaths.
933  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷ [ANN] ☷ [MODERATED] ☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ on: August 23, 2014, 07:12:26 PM
What happened with PoD from Cryptoasian?

2 days after ICO was listed on bittrex

Yeah where is the PoD, this has been asked many times now...
934  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Beta Invites | Profit Share 14% | 1 Million coins on: August 23, 2014, 04:28:01 PM
Sheep will be slaughtered.

The sheep have been slaughtered.

#FuckedByIE
935  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷[ANN]☷BITTREX ICO☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ SOLD OUT! on: August 23, 2014, 07:32:36 AM
Stop calling gambling on shitcoins "investing" you bunch of r-tards.

^^

learn to take gambling losses with some dignity..
936  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷[ANN]☷BITTREX ICO☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ SOLD OUT! on: August 23, 2014, 03:09:18 AM
People trying to turn this from Cluster coin to Bittrex coin. Should bittrex just take over the coin and hire new devs. You guys so demanding.

The terms have been set. We agreed to them by buying in. Devs going to do what is required to get the BTC then continue development.



Agreed. And if people start to complain to Bittrex you can kiss any exchange doing any form of escrow.

They profit from listing a ICO and they profit from the trading. They can clearly see manipulation going on and they stand by and watch it happen. No sane person would buy a coin for 10k then sell it for 4k.

We are not asking them to do anything apart from looking into a way to protect investors which are clearly been taken advantaged of. All we are asking is to hold it till the dev proves it is not a scam.

I just do not think it is bittrex job to protect us from losing money. Sane people would not buy an ICO and sell within a day for a loss but a lot of people that trade are not sane. They trade on emotion and not logic which creates situations like this. As long as the developer meets their contractual obligation there is nothing bittrex can do. Or they will be held liable if they breached the contract they have with the developer. Now I have been pretty busy today and have not seen what is going on with the developer that has people talking about refunds or bittrex to change their terms. Just saying it as a generalization that people that buy into ICO can not expect refunds unless there is some really shady stuff going on.

The dev hasnt addressed a single concern. He just posts when items that are needed for the terms to be fulfilled. Iys easy to see that he is excited about meeting the terms but not much else. This prick will run with 350 btc and we'll all be fucked... again. I'm not trying to fud, I'm commenting on what the devs behaviour since 'sold out.'
Bittrex will get a black eye from this as well. I'm out of there if they don't mitigate some of the damage if this is a pure con.

What concerns has he not addressed? The concerns that the price are lower than the ICO value? Wtf is he supposed to say or do about that? Some of you traders must be over-privileged preteens or something. "Daaaadddy, daaaadddy I lost all my money on the internet can I have 20 dollars!?"

See this response from the dev regarding your concerns?

I guess dev is trying to figure out what he will spend the 350 BTC on instead of helping to slow/stop the manipulation of his coin....



What do you suggest? I mean there is not much I can do with FUD at this point. Regarding all the panic and fear - investors are free to do whatever they want with CLSTR - even dump it with 40% loss. Neither me nor Bittrex is involved in trades.

Also It is not very good for dev to comment on trades, so from now on I wont reply to anything related to the trades.

It is exactly what he should say. He is not responsible for the idiotic and irrational behavior of irrational idiotic traders.


Only outstanding concern I see that needs to be addressed further at this time is if and when the proof-of-developement will happen.
937  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ☷[ANN]☷BITTREX ICO☷ CLSTR ☷ ClusterCoin ☷ the Future of Money ☷ SOLD OUT! on: August 22, 2014, 11:42:04 PM
Is Proof-of-Developer still going to happen? Shouldn't it have happened before ICO?
938  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine on: August 22, 2014, 11:33:12 PM
What a useless coin, I am sure our friend "Hero Member" has made tons of BTC from this, Coins from newbie are better than this!

How does one make "tons of BTC" from a young coin with no premine? Please, try not to look too much like an idiot if you want your criticisms to be regarded as anything other than a joke or the rantings of an imbecile.
939  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [CLD] XCloudcoin | Beta Invites | Profit Share 14% | 1 Million coins on: August 22, 2014, 07:59:14 PM
Sheep will be slaughtered.
940  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED! on: August 21, 2014, 06:03:54 AM
so many investor lost theirs money , but only winner is syscoin and Moolah,   as  they said ,they are partner , lol.....moolah's credit is broken ,but he got money.

The only "investors" (in quotations because these people weren't investors at all, they were just people who were hoping to dump their IPO position for a nice return as soon as the coin was launched) who lost money are the ones who were dumb enough to sell during the initial bumpy FUD phase... if you are so short-sighted to only care about the initial price right after the coin launches and to think that a bumpy start is the end to this coin and that it won't recover, than you deserve to have sold at a lost.

I am glad all the fucktards with this outlook are already out.
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