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I need a very small amount of Liberty Reserve funds and the exchanges are too high for small amounts.
Looking for: $10 in Liberty Reserve
Have: OKPAY funds
I'm thinking $11 of my OKPAY for $10 of your LR.
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Let me add this...
I am very willing to use escrow. The escrow agent must be able to verify funds on all the platforms listed above, and buyer will cover any expenses.
Just thought I'd add that.
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stay away from technocashier. I did business one time with them, and the order didnt go through. I tried contacting support, but they didnt speak good english and went afk all the time. then they stopped replying at all. I finally asked that group that mediates with those exchangers to mediate, and after 3 weeks I got my money.
If I were you I'd deposit the LR with mtgox, and then withdraw the bitcoin bought from that to OKPAY.
If you use aurumxchange to deposit your LR with btc-e, buy btc there, transfer it to mtgox, sell it there and then transfer to okpay, you might even be at 0% fees, or even below that.
Good heads up on technocashier. Didn't know their customer service was shitty. OP, aurumxchange will cost you about 6% on LR to BTC-e, plus they are low on BTC-e funds at the moment. Of course bitcoin transfers are damn near free, but once you sell on MtGox it will cost you 1% to cash out via OKPAY. Fees all over the place, but that's just how the game goes. |
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I am still willing to help coordinate this.
Maybe we could do a league membership fee in lieu of a buy-in?
IDK, throw some ideas my way.
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USA customer trying to deposit on OKPAY to transfer to BTC-e?
Take the following into consideration:
Bank wires can take days
Most money transfer options are spotty for US
Moneygram & Western Union are available, but through exchange partners at very expensive rates
PLUS, depositing onto BTC-e from OKPAY will cost you an extra 2%.
Save your profits from arbitrage. Trade your OKPAY USD funds here.
More payment methods will be available soon.
*Note: I understand my trade history is not very extensive, so I am willing to trade smaller amounts with lesser fees. Just drop a question here or a PM for details.
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Try technocashier.com
The fees for that trade are about 4%
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It will take an entrpreneur with balls of steel to make this happen.
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Do you need to get USD onto btc-e.com? Do you have an OKPAY account?
If you answered yes to both questions I can help. I have $270 USD in OKPAY I am willing to trade. An OKPAY transfer to another OKPAY customer is instant, which means you can transfer your OKPAY funds over to btc-e.com quickly. OKPAY transfer are also irreversible for added safety in trading.
I will trade any amount up to $270
What I accept & Fees:
American Express BlueBird transfer + $3
Money Pak reload codes bought with CASH + $5
Walmart E-gift card + $10
Getting money onto OKPAY to deposit onto BTC-e can be a bitch. I plan on adding more payment methods and more funds in the future. I will also be adding a cash out option in about a month or so.
I am open to questions and PM's. Thanks.
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It is possible but it is expensive and complicated. I suggest going to btc-e.com and researching all deposit methods. Compare them and see what is best for you.
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In your experiences, how long does a normal USD withdrawal usually take from MtGox to OKPAY?
Usually it takes just few minutes unless you send it at friday night (or was it coincidence?). Want to make arbitraging with btc-e, lol? Btw, they have an affiliate program, here is my referral link: https://www.okpay.com/?rbp=arsenische  Haha yes. Thanks for the info. I signed up a few days ago. |
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What are the fees on okpay withdrawal on mtgox?
Frankly speaking I am not quite sure how fees are calculated, but when you withdraw $1000 from mtgox, you get ~$987 on your OKPay account. Btw, my withdrawal got executed. Probably it was delayed due to weekend. I checked on gox and it said withdraw fees were 1%. I can live with that. In your experiences, how long does a normal USD withdrawal usually take from MtGox to OKPAY? |
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What are the fees on okpay withdrawal on mtgox?
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trollbox is the best thing that ever happened to cryptocurrency daytrading are you kidding me?
yes, some people might not have any common sense and be suckered, but the amount of info I get about everything in the bitcoin community through that trollbox is tremendous, don't you take my trollbox, if you don't like it go to vircurex
another one is coming and I hear it'll have a trollbox too crypto-trade.com in 8 days
also I'm thinking about developing a crypto-currency exchange company, and putting a skype webcam box in so you can see everyone's faces and hear people yelling. it would be insane. that would be like trollbox 2.0
hellz yeah. trollbox is effin great. skype cam would be the shiz-nit. clowns in there randomly yell "ARISE CHIKUN," but you get to see them do it. +100000000 |
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I look at BTC as gold and LTC as silver. They can co-exist and even compliment each other. Plus, the logos of both kind of illustrate what I just said |
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Forum member Xqisit does great photo editing work. Thanks for all the interest people.
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I sold at around $3.50. I couldn't take the downward spiral any longer.
Wild ride LTC took us on this past week. After the mass exodus I see it leveling off at around the $2-$3 range.
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There is nothing illegal about lying to PayPal. They lie to their customers all the time. They are not a bank, they are not a governmental entity, therefore there is no legal ramifications that come along with using "stealth accounts." The most that will happen is they will find out you are using one if you are sloppy, then they will suspend your account.
PayPal's financial services licences require them to comply with AML and other financial reporting requirements. They will report accounts suspected of being opened with fake credentials, and regulators may well view the offering for sale of the means to obscure true ownership of PayPal accounts as facilitating money-laundering activity, tax evasion, etc. Purchase "stealth" accounts at your own peril. No doubt. Money services have a legal obligation to KYC/AML. But I know of several people successfully using stealth accounts, mainly for eBay sales. Many of them have hundreds of accounts. And most have never had a stealth account limited/suspended. And zero of them have ever been to prison for money laundering, or even suspected of it for that matter. Point is, if you use it correctly, you cannot be caught. There are certain activites that draw attention to your PayPal account and using a stealth account is based upon knowing those activities & patterns and avoiding them. Someone with much experience and knowledge has written a book on this and his practices are proven to work. All the OP is doing is marketing a service for people who may want to use it. Being familiar with this, I felt like weighing in. Didn't think I'd be in here debating with people. |
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Can I use paypal to protect myself from fraud? If, hypothetically, I purchased someone's pre-ordered miner using paypal and then they failed to ship it to me...could I use a chargeback to get my money back?
PayPal generally sides with buyers so you have a lot of protection going into this deal. Word of advice... Use a credit card attached to your account instead of you PayPal balance, if possible. If PayPal does not want to be helpful simply file a dispute with your credit card company. They will chump PayPal into doing what you request. |
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They are not a bank, they are not a governmental entity, They are a "card issuer" per 15 USC 1602(o). therefore there is no legal ramifications that come along with using "stealth accounts." Except that you're not the person authorized to use the account. See 18 USC 1030(a)(2)(A). Card issuer is not a bank. Plus, stealth users do not use the PayPal Debit Mastercard. There are ways of cashing out that do not require obtaining a card. As for 18 USC 1030(a)(2)(A)... I think you may be overlooking the most important word of my sentence you quoted, which is "stealth." A properly used stealth account cannot be traced to any other person. This means going through several steps to ensure PayPal does not link you. There is a whole e-book written on this topic, which I have read. I am familiar with everything you typed. Thus, if you cannot be connected to your stealth account, there are no legal ramifications. PayPal's TOS calls for account termination of anyone who uses "untrue" info to sign up. No jail time for using stealth accounts folks. "Registration Information. You agree to provide true, accurate and complete registration information and to maintain and promptly update your information as applicable. You agree not to impersonate any other person or use a name that you are not authorized to use. If any information you provide is untrue, inaccurate, not current, or incomplete, without limiting other remedies, PayPal has the right to terminate your use of the Service and PayPal, its agents, suppliers, and subcontractors have the right to recover from you any costs or losses incurred as a direct or indirect result of the inaccurate or incomplete information. If your application is for a Premier or Business account, you may be required to furnish more detailed information in order to be in compliance with VISA/MasterCard rules. If any information you provide is untrue, inaccurate, not current, or incomplete, without limiting other remedies, Wells Fargo and the VISA/MasterCard associations have the right to require that PayPal terminate your account." |
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Currently I have someone working on this. If things change I will update here.
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