Somebody here has an agenda.  Generally when someone resort to bold letters with an oversized font, run for the hills, he wants to sell you some BS. |
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We've got a major problem, I have two wallets on two separate machines both stuck on block 46226.
v0.9.1.0-unk-beta
windows
Yeah, it's windows. I just pushed a fix, InternetApe is compiling. Should be up soon Fixed, Download: http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe (It's the same version number, but it'll continue past that block) Ok it's working ! (v0.9.1.2-unk-beta) |
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shouldn't be, but anything linked to darksend connection testing?
Maybe, the version on http://darkcoin.io is now the v0.10.0.0-unk-beta. With the "Use DarkSend" checkbox. |
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If you're on the treadmill but you're not sweating I can reasonably guess that you're not on the uphill setting.  Some people sweat a lot just by walking, other don't. Does that mean with your logic that the latters are underperforming ? |
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X11 does indeed run 30 degrees colder than scrypt, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about there. DGW reacts faster and more effectively to whales joining because I used exponential moving averages which are just better for this type of thing, again not sure what you're talking about.
I can run 30 degrees colder doing nothing as well. That's the point. You pay $500 for a 1 Mh/s scrypt GPU and I pay $500 for 1 Mh/s scrypt GPU. I get a miner that gets 33% more of the total hashes than you do so I am getting twice as many hashes (66% / 33% = 2x). We have the same hardware. We have 2 different miners but I claim the one I gave you is the best when in fact it's not. Not only that, suppose my miner is 15 degrees warmer. That's still 15 degrees cooler and I am getting 2x the performance as you. Point is, if there's less heat, then your card isn't working as hard as it can. Basic science. Basic science ? That's a joke right ? Show us all the flaws of the current GPU miner ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0) instead of spreading broscience. I'm waiting ... |
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Those that want anonymity for nefarious reasons will still use the coin. They will give a price boost to darkcoin when darksend is ready. But they are not the target audience, IMO.
I'm a broken record here, but IMO they might not be the target audience, but they will be the ones who have the ability to increase price based on adoption. Really then please explain who is the target audience and what is the target use? "People concerned about privacy". What does this mean? How will the coin be used in "private" on a large scale? Those who wish DRK adoption to the general public, that's all fine and good but DRK's main selling point doesn't matter to the majority of potential users. I use Bitcoin for 3 purposes: 1. Hold for future appreciation, 2. Redeem for fiat, 3. Buy non-illegal stuff online (TigerDirect, etc.). So what do i care about being private? For #3. I HAVE TO GIVE SHIPPING INFO. I think i'm generally in the mainstream when it comes to crypto, i use it, i invest in it, i believe in it, but I don't care about being anonymous. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, but please, give me some idea of what non-illegal transactions that it would be imperative to use DRK (and primarily DRK) for? I just think it's naive to think that DRK can somehow gain mass appeal without -first- being adopted by those who want to buy their pot. If you don't see how darksend can benefit the general public, you won't have any problems posting a history of all transactions from your current bank account, or all bank accounts you have ever had for that matter. Sure, bitcoin addresses do not necessarily have a direct link to any individual or organisation, but in many cases it would be easy enough to establish the owner of the wallet, especially if the information is posted in a public forum. If somebody has your address they can see all transfers in the blockchain and may be able to establish who you have done business with. If legitimate businesses accept bitcoin a lot of them would probably want to keep the same address, so payments aren't sent to the wrong address, causing problems with their clients. In many cases it might not be important but many people are not such exhibitionists that they wish for their finances to be public information. +1 If we are in a buy / sell transaction, and I can see your purchase history and how much you have, I can gain an advantage over negotiations. There are thousands of reasons why financial privacy is essential. Again, this is not really giving me anything other than the "privacy" issue. In the current state of crypto, even Bitcoin can be considered a niche financial tool with limited acceptance (outside of the "crypto community"). In terms of mass-adoption, what do you need? Demand. What causes demand? The ability to use it to purchase services/goods or a likelyhood of appreciation. I'm looking for scenarios on the demand side. I'm not discounting the end-goal of more privacy, I don't discount this is a good thing. My point above was to address the people who constantly harp on the "evil" side of things (drug deals, etc.). The privacy thing is great, but I don't think this is the reason BTC doesn't have wider acceptance (knowing that we're still in the infancy). The point is I still think it's naive to think the privacy thing is enough to put DRK over the top while trying to avoid potential "bad transactions", because there simply aren't enough "good transactions" in the world of crypto. The anonymity of the transactions (via DarkSend) permits to offer the same properties of cash when we live in an almost cashless society. |
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I love the black & white logo, I think that it looks pretty good while being simple nothing like unprofessional/young/inexperienced (like an energy drink logo quite the opposite). Does the Bitcoin logo look more professionnal for me ? No. "we're trying to look badass" ? No "we look badass" and professionnal.  |
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It's Friday, I'm bored at work and my boss is out sick. Ladies...   Looks like a professional ad. The logo is wonderful. |
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Don't post in this thread if your answer is not in agreement with the opinion of the OP. The question in the title is purely rhetorical ERR i'm sorry but i don't get what you are getting at? post something that backs up your statement. Although it has to be said you made your x11 fan boy feelings known from the start. Have i posted something regarding x11 that makes you feel i have not listened and posted fair summary of what has been said here? If so quote them in your next post so that i may get some clue of what you are hinting at. Here we go "X11 pro" "X11 fan boy" etc. You seemed partial from the start. Your emphasis on the word "bullshit" in the title, the way you answer to people defending X11. This is not a discussion, this is a statement. Well the title can be altered if it offends you so much.... however be honest for a moment... from what we have come up with so far on this thread do you really think the x11 hype is a bit over cooked?? I mean come on every community is screaming for x11 as if it is a saviour to all of our problems... i hear it is super efficient way more so than anything out there, i hear it is asic PROOF, i hear that it is far more secure against attacks.... these things are looking like bullshit or at the very least blown out of proportion. That is without the fact there could be away to optimise the x11 miner beyond what most people are using. Nobody said ASIC proof but resistant, hardware implementation of X11 is possible but more difficult. The source of the GPU miner is available, those who argue that it is not optimized enough must have (I hope) some programming notions, therefore they are welcome to point out the flaws and correct them. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0 |
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Don't post in this thread if your answer is not in agreement with the opinion of the OP. The question in the title is purely rhetorical ERR i'm sorry but i don't get what you are getting at? post something that backs up your statement. Although it has to be said you made your x11 fan boy feelings known from the start. Have i posted something regarding x11 that makes you feel i have not listened and posted fair summary of what has been said here? If so quote them in your next post so that i may get some clue of what you are hinting at. Here we go "X11 pro" "X11 fan boy" etc. You seemed partial from the start. Your emphasis on the word "bullshit" in the title, the way you answer to people defending X11. This is not a discussion, this is a statement. |
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Don't post in this thread if your answer is not in agreement with the opinion of the OP. The question in the title is purely rhetorical
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There can't be any discussion - these are all too colourful. The one that Evan really liked is definitely the slickest one. It's really sharp and aggressive and looks amazingly professional.
Too colorful? There are only 2 colors on logos showed above. Orange and gray ; blue and black. I don't think it is too colorful  You're right it's not that bad. Of course this is the one I'm taking about.  It struck me right away as being the perfect mix of style and substance. It definitely looks like something I would use regularly to make payments. I can imagine myself saying "do you take darkcoin?" in any store in the future with a logo like that. Anyways that's my opinion of course. +10000 for this one |
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Hi there, today i tryed to withdraw an amount from cryptsy but no confirmation is happened yet,
can someone help me?
the trans code is:
448b9ff44f08f2a1740ec760396f6d6559d1685216d60aa18b4831229b1f46d8
How long ? Is your wallet synchronized ? If it is stuck do you have the latest version ( http://darkcoin.io/) ? |
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Hardly a discussion. Just an anti Darkcoin thread in disguise. So that means we have 4 FUD agents/trolls confirmed till date. More exposure is always good although you'd hope positives outshine the negatives. That troll is nothing compared to trolls in the BTC wall thread, they will make you shiver if you have heavy fiat on the line. I believe he has had altercations on this thread or other places wrt darkcoin. You will not be able to reason with these types. Apparently there are phantom miners out in the wild that are faster than publicly available miners. D'oh like that isn't the case with any other algo. And this is why x11 is bad haha The title of the thread gave it away a little with the capital letters only for the word "BULLSHIT".  |
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I'm away from my computer, do not remember. Will try to post ASAP though.
e.g. with a p2pool node ( http://drk.poolhash.org/) : sgminer -k darkcoin -o 54.186.8.140:7903 -u [your wallet address] -p 1234 offtopic: off |
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Sgminer does not work with me. I assume its same parameters as cgminer, doesn't work. Put the same stratum info into darkcoins miner, and bloop! Mining hiro xD
What are your parameters ? |
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I don't see where's a serious bottleneck or some conspiracy. Since X11 (and hefty, keccak and those others from sph-sgminer) is not memory hard, you're not stressing the memory controller, L2 caches and the ram chips.
You're used to scrypt, see it as a "reference" and say that others must not be optimized due to low power use and thermals. However, scrypt is the odd one out in the first place, a complete card fuck like Furmark or some videocard stress test.
+1 GPU miner and the source if somebody is up for some "optimizations" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0 |
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If every prominent coin would switch its hash algo right before the first batch of ASICs get delivered repeatedly at each ASIC generation, people would stop buying ASICs as they know they will be worthless. So it's only important that there is currently no ASIC available and that you can implement other algorithms once they are.
This is the way to beat ASICs because their development is very expensive and the companys only get a ROI when they can sell them.
Well they can sell on preorder so it means they have to switch algo before. People would still buy in the end Randomly change the hash functions order in X11 maybe. I don't have an exact understanding of where this comes up . . but I've read that Quark already suffers from this in that the random algo still must be selected in a way that can be figured out by the GPU. By doing this, they implement an if/else statement that chooses one algo or the other depending on the previous hashes result @ stage 2, 5 and 7 . . which is still something that can be implemented in an ASIC. So it ends up being more pseudo-random as far as an ASIC implementation goes. Unless you mean save a random swap in the future that's updated through a hard fork? Anyone know better . . or if I'm way off? I asked the guy for an exact explanation but he didn't respond. Yes for a hard fork once in a while. (And sorry bad quote) |
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Any views on Charlie Lee, founder of Litecoin, on X11 being less secure than scrypt? His comment: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.msg153436#msg153436The back story to the comment: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=18166.msg152706#msg152706X11 is Far Worse
X11 suffers from the problems stemming from increased propagation latency and slow verification, and adds even worse susceptibility to ASIC advantage. It is a mere mishmash of 11 separate algorithms that are now GPU mineable (according to Darkcoin’s homepage). Anything GPU mineable can be implemented in custom hardware. To make matters worse, ASIC’s could even have a major speedup advantage over GPU’s. adam3mus said, “it does seem likely that eg if the unused space due to heat can be filled with the other hashes, then it can all be pipelined together and no slowdown. the only cost is replicating different hash functions which doesnt seem particularly hard”
So a switch to X11 only delays the inevitable. Switching the hash to X11 would only spite the current manufacturers while ultimately failing in the goal of preventing ASIC’s later. It gets even worse. If the cost of entry for a particular PoW is very high by design, that increases the chance of fewer competing manufacturers entering a market. This is the worst possible outcome for any Bitcoin-like network that relies upon large quantities of greedy miners to outdo each other to maintain network security. The quoted adam3mus is a brain on legs. He knows far too much about hashing, I think he invented hashcash wash was used to make bitcoin feasible. He does, however, suffer from alt-coin phobia. I did read that but his opinion is obviously biased, he don't want LTC to switch to X11, so I wouldn't expect to read even one positive thing from him about it. |
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If every prominent coin would switch its hash algo right before the first batch of ASICs get delivered repeatedly at each ASIC generation, people would stop buying ASICs as they know they will be worthless. So it's only important that there is currently no ASIC available and that you can implement other algorithms once they are.
This is the way to beat ASICs because their development is very expensive and the companys only get a ROI when they can sell them.
Well they can sell on preorder so it means they have to switch algo before. People would still buy in the end Randomly change the hash functions order in X11 maybe. |
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