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9461  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 27, 2017, 03:15:30 PM
i think bitcoin will be more popular when bitcoin have fluctuating prices. you can see the volume in each exchange can rise so high. I would expect that it would be more accepted by people as a stable store of value. However, It may not be used as a long term investment because there would be little potential for gain.
That's the point of this topic, thinking if the price is stable would it be as popular as it is now. It's popular with the tech-savvy people like some people here and me also. I'm amazed what the Bitcoin has been through and what it could do in the future.
I agree with you and it is true what you say that the volume on exchange in bitcoin market will be low if the bitcoin price movement is stable. And when the movement of bitcoin is very fast up and down And by that time the volume in the exchange rose very quickly even several fold. It proves that fluctuations are more favor in bitcoin
I dont think so. Bitcoin has appeared in many aspect of our life and it will be hard to remove it. So if the prices are stable, nothing will affect those factors and it will still exist on our planet and still be used as a type of currency.

You are not totally invisible form the governments and they can spy on all the transactions in the bitcoin network from your side. Once a while they might just land up with a huge list of income taxes - again the bitcoin network is such that there is no such thing as taxation. Its hard to remove but no impossible, but then again people will find workarounds.
9462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: April 27, 2017, 03:12:49 PM
For me, gambling is the best way currently as you can make good sports predictions at home by research and get paid for it. It's very easy and all you need is your understanding of the games and the research you'll do to pick the correct games. I feel this is doable by anybody who can dedicate just two hours of his time daily for this.

Gambling is not easy as you say it is. First of all its a sin to gamble your money. One should work hard to earn money first and not think of gambling in the first place. Again sports betting needs skills and knowledge with analysis of the games but its not easy because it is a game after all. Often the games are fixed as well by bookies to loot money for the betters. All this in opinion has ruined the sports a lot as well.
9463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: April 26, 2017, 03:19:28 PM
Guys I know that there are previous posts and polls regarding the highly suggested source of bitcoin but things always change do I want to know what is the current best source of bitcoin nowadays. Please participate on this poll and kindly tell us why that's your choice. Thanks in advance and God bless us more Wink
The Best source of bitcoin is  trading, because I do not thrust any HYIP site or gambling those is  bad way to invest bitcoin. probably I have the same oppinion with other people here.
That would not give you a certain income, it is not a safe idea to be considered as a source of bitcoin unless you are good enough to make consistent money. For me, I combine working online and real job, when I earn bitcoin I only spend a little amount out of it and just save the rest for future investment.

I agree that a real life job or business is best as far as stable daily income is. Bitcoin and other online earnings are side earnings for me. Trading is good but that will work out only on certain times and not everyday can you make huge volume trades due to small price changes. Earning from signature campaigns is also good. For those who dont have a real life job they can try freelancing jobs on the forum.
9464  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 26, 2017, 03:15:49 PM
Yes it will probably be like gold in digital form but I'm not sure it will happen because bitcoin is decentral and bitcoin holders will not get much profit, I like the fluctuating bitcoin

It wont be happening anytime soon considering the importance as a trading commodity in people's minds. Many traders are thriving on the fluctuation in prices, making daily profits there and thus leveraging the market even more. That drives the economy and the price of bitcoin considering a local currency. If it get stagnant then traders are likely to sell some coins - while others will buy it - so the stagnancy will be temporary and not permanent.
Now, people have different opinions on what I'm about to say, but having volatility is a very important part of the market for Bitcoin, or at least it used to be. Not sure if it has that much of an impact anymore. Something that really drew early investors in was the ability to make a lot off of the swings so prevalent in the market, nowadays I don't know if investors care all that much. I think everyone is just looking for growth.
the point is, without volatility bitcoin will have less marketcap because traders are what brought so many investments in bitcoin, volatility really matter


But the thing is as soon a the market become a big stagnant, there will be rise of some pumping groups who will pump coins and make the price fall. Immediately huge number of traders will buy bitcoin and raise the price again. Again others will sell and the cycle will continue. This is why the market wont become stagnant anytime soon. The traders will allow volatility be there otherwise there is no profit for them.
9465  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 26, 2017, 03:12:44 PM
Try martingale with low risk profile. First you need to learn. There is huge risk involved in it.
I don't think it's the easiest strategy to earn profit. If you compute it, if you received a continuous streak up to 5 - 8 continuous streak, it will definitely eat your bank roll up.
As quoted martingale is just an strategy that's been used to overcome loss with the help of big backing of bitcoin. This doesn't assure you the profiting or winning. There is no such way of easy earning till you risk your wallet balance for earning more.

Martingale is based on an assumption - that money in the deposit is infinite, which is not true in real life. That is why if you try martingale, get ready for huge losses soon enough when the house edge catches up with your wins. Its of no use to make any strategy in luck based EV- games going under  false impression that you can become a millionaire. Otherwise the best thing to do is the get out early before incurring huge losses.
9466  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 26, 2017, 03:06:13 PM
Of course, as always it is better to invest your money if you have enough or spare cash to invest. In investing, we are expecting a return or an ROI for the amount we invest through time. Time is really important in order to accumulate our money or assets.

Of course it is important to invest otherwise we cant think of increasing our money. But seriously speaking one must always do proper research before investing in any place. Get to know the owner their older works and think whether its trustworthy or not. Since you investing there and no one is forcing you to, make sure to double check everything they do since in future the only one to blame is you yourself in case they scam you.
9467  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 25, 2017, 03:24:39 PM
Now both look very good. If you do have an income above $ 300, I think save it for the better, because it will definitely be very useful for your future. But, if not, maybe investment will be a useful thing for you in the future.

Saving money for future is a good practice but your money will depreciate over a period of time and if you have a dream of getting rich in future then you have to invest your money from where you can get good profits in future.

Not everyone want to get rich in future. That needs hard work and skills to work with, along with knowledge in a proper field. Investments will never make you a millionaire if you dont even have a huge capital to start with.

Saving money is important and a necessity for people since we never know when urgency may arise for need of money.

Investments are there to supplement your main income. So people should focus on getting a proper job or set up a business first then think about investments.
9468  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 25, 2017, 03:21:00 PM
That's pretty obvious that they will win in the long run, so we better not think we can beat their system but constantly updating our method because no method will work in the long run. Gambling is just design that way, it is on their favor and they will be profitable than us.
Best chance we have is when we love to risk bigger money and if we are lucky we can bag a big amount.

The best chance that you have if you really want to make big amount of profit is to use big amount as well. Go for a few run and hope for the best, if you try to split up those big amount into several small bets than that is a silly mistake. Either you go broke or you go high, you are going to get either of it

Exactly, there is huge risk involved in it if we don't split means because in the single shot we might lose all money. It is always better not to keep all eggs in a single basket, we have to split them because we might win in other gambling if we split means.



I dont think that is clever or logical in any manner of sort. Splitting money into different gambling games in the long run is just the same as a single game since there  is house edge in all casino games which are EV-, so splitting the money is like doing the same gamble in a different manner with no difference with the actual one.
9469  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 25, 2017, 03:17:54 PM
Yes it will probably be like gold in digital form but I'm not sure it will happen because bitcoin is decentral and bitcoin holders will not get much profit, I like the fluctuating bitcoin

It wont be happening anytime soon considering the importance as a trading commodity in people's minds. Many traders are thriving on the fluctuation in prices, making daily profits there and thus leveraging the market even more. That drives the economy and the price of bitcoin considering a local currency. If it get stagnant then traders are likely to sell some coins - while others will buy it - so the stagnancy will be temporary and not permanent.
9470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 25, 2017, 03:15:20 PM
Its actually 100% luck as far as luck based gambling games are concerned - "games of chance" so to speak. Some people think that they wont work for money and let their luck earn for it. Yes some people do get rich but its just a handful who win jackpots and moreover the potential gamblers get jealous and try to win the jackpot too. So that way it is profitable to the casino owners but surely a loss for the players.

It is the way the game is designed therefore I suggest investing in a gambling site instead of using it to play. You can choose to play as well however Play with only a small amount , I do this myself so whenever I lose I wont really lose a alot. We all will lose when we play so why would we go for high amount

Investing in the casino bankroll is good and I do like it. The chances of losing a lot of money by investing into the bankroll is also there when a high roller comes but them again the high rollers are addicts and there is a high chance that the casino will get back the amount in the next bets. So likewise its a good and better than gambling money at a casino.
9471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 24, 2017, 03:16:16 PM
I only see this with one single way be owner of some casino, gambling website even knowing some casinos does offer the option to invest into bankroll, but the risks and trust are something unique and hard to get over internet. As a gambler i do know the risks while i do make my bets, and the result for the most gamblers is the sam, some days we win others days we do loose.
Once you inside gambling your facing risk already even you don't bets you will triggered to pull the bets button i always feel im lucky when tring to make bets Lose and Win is normal for us to make profit and to made our standing better we learn about the experience every time we finish play gambling i don't consider to invest my bankroll into gambling it can be manipulated tho.

I agree with rinder here. Even if you win a couple of times and you have a goos strategy, chances are you'll still lose money when you play. There's no other way around it as it is the nature of gambling. Its possible that one night you will win big but the nezt two nights you'll lose. The only secure way of earning profits is to generate income from the people gambling and that's to be part of the house or to be the house itself by setting up your own casino or site

You cant really plan in gambling and cannot say that you will surely win. 90% Gambling is dependent on your Luck. Your luck is gambling can makeyou very rich in a day but greediness can make you a loser forever.

Its actually 100% luck as far as luck based gambling games are concerned - "games of chance" so to speak. Some people think that they wont work for money and let their luck earn for it. Yes some people do get rich but its just a handful who win jackpots and moreover the potential gamblers get jealous and try to win the jackpot too. So that way it is profitable to the casino owners but surely a loss for the players.
9472  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 24, 2017, 03:11:51 PM
As always bitcoin will remain popular and the price is now soaring from your estimate of $ 0.01 - 0.10 Smiley
So what are you waiting for, just believe with bitcoin now

I do hope the prices touch 1.5kUSD this year at least if not even better. That would be insane for the traders since there is just so much increase in the price of bitcoin currently. The more people are using and buying bitcoin the prices rise and rise even more. We all are here mostly because of the price since we do trading on coins and hope to make profit out of it. Bitcoin is popular due to its own reasons and also due to its price.
9473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 24, 2017, 03:07:34 PM
That's pretty obvious that they will win in the long run, so we better not think we can beat their system but constantly updating our method because no method will work in the long run. Gambling is just design that way, it is on their favor and they will be profitable than us.
Best chance we have is when we love to risk bigger money and if we are lucky we can bag a big amount.

The best chance that you have if you really want to make big amount of profit is to use big amount as well. Go for a few run and hope for the best, if you try to split up those big amount into several small bets than that is a silly mistake. Either you go broke or you go high, you are going to get either of it
That's for sure, go big to win big. That's definitely one of the most enticing things in gambling, and probably you have fallen for it too. You would never know how much it's going to cost you to win big but it's a part of getting there.
Bottom line, we just need to be lucky if we want to win money and it does not matter how much we will put as any amount could generate a big return if we are lucky enough. I wish we have that luck all the time and we know when it will strike so we could put more money to get more.

Luck is the most important factor that determines everything in luck based gambling games. We can never say if the dice will roll under or over just by prediction but only keep on guessing what might roll. Skills ans knowledge with analysis are useful in EV+ games like poker and sportsbetting but you never know which game might be rigged or which team got paid to lose in real life.
9474  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 24, 2017, 03:03:15 PM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
It's better to invest your money than storing it where in its value don't increase. In my opinion, it's better to invest in real estate since its value grows faster than gold.
Hold still being a good decision everytme. investment is not easy as you said. It need a lot of skill and experience to get the right place to invest your money with low level of risk for yourself.
yes that is very right that in present time i think holding bitcoin for the price increase will be a very good decision, because the price of bitcoin is still expecting to increase more .

Bitcoin price is bound to increase in future and so holding bitcoin is worthwhile if it has no other use to you. You can also try daily trading of coins when prices rise or fall, increase your stash when required and sell some when you need cash. Savings should be done meticulously otherwise we would spend too much and wont be able to get daily necessities properly.
9475  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: April 23, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
It's better to invest your money than storing it where in its value don't increase. In my opinion, it's better to invest in real estate since its value grows faster than gold.

I prefer real estate too since its also physical and I can observe it, which is absent in online investments. Most of the online ones turn out to be disguised ponzi schemes and MLM scams. Its better to inquire about the site and company you invest in before doing so. If you dont get enough information its better not to invest in it. Again many professional fraudsters do make very real-life descriptions while they are actually fake - so its difficult to judge.
9476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: April 23, 2017, 09:25:13 AM
hello, I would like to try my luck from gambling.

what kind of gambling that you think is easy to make a profit? and what strategies are you using?

I think there are no strategies. There are some good articles you can find on the Internet about why casinos always win. Basically, it is all about theories of probability, so if you are good at math you will get the thing. The only cases in which you can win is either there is some kind of a gap in the system, or this casino is a scam, that makes you think you are winning, while you are actually losing.

My strategy is very simple. Having no strategy while gambling is the best strategy actually. My luck is with me most of the time so I never worried about any planning or making strategies because I always won more than what I lost. So I have faith in my luck and play dice...  Grin


its nice reading that someone can be luckier like you mate, since most what we read here are those complain regarding of their loses inside
gambling sites, i like what you have said its nothing special with your own luck and determination to win. no easy way but a lots of patience
to win inside gambling.

Instead of having a strategy to win its better to have no strategy at all, since in gambling at casinos, all strategies are bound to fail in the long run when the house edge catches up and wipes away our balance. Rather on the field its important to focus on your balance and use it wisely so you can bank some amount and stop when needed and call it a a day if you lose too much.
9477  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 23, 2017, 09:19:03 AM
I am sure, although bitcoin prices remain stable, it will become popular. Well, bitcoin prices are higher than other altcoin prices. So of course bitcoin hunters will still look for bitcoin, not as an investment, but as money will be made in cash.

I doubt it. Few people use bitcoin only because of anonymity. Many bitcoins attract only a steady rise in price. Bitcoin will lose a lot of users if this happens

It is true that the bitcoin users thrive for the use of bitcoin as a trading material and less as a currency. More volumes are bought and sold these days and the prices are bound to rise. As more people start to use the coin and buy it the prices rise. This attracts traders to invest in it and make profits when they sell it a lower prices than that what they bought at.
9478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 23, 2017, 09:16:01 AM
Well in my personal experience you can turn gambling into a profitable activity. if you will became the banker or a dealer also it will be a profitable activity if you happen to run, operate the gambling site.
you could have gone through op article before making this comment. Op is talk how a gambler can gamble responsibly and profitably and not who benefit from gamble. At your spare time try and read the article and you will understand that op has make a lot sense from what he post.
I think there are just some people who reads the title only, not the content or even the replies of other users.

As a matter of fact these type of people are filled in this forum for signature spamming. They dont even bother to read the OP and a few of the replies before stating a vague comment. Of course one can start their own business on gambling casino and become rich but this thread is about how to make gambling a profitable activity not how to profit from making players gamble at your casino.
9479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 22, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
I don't think gambling can be consistently profitable. You may win every once in a while but there's no way to get a steady income or profit.
Yes gambling can be profitable everyday let just say we can make to win every week it can continue in everyday no one can make it either those real and addicts already in gambling. You can make gambling profitable activity when you invest your bankroll there.

Investing in the casino bankroll is not gambling per se. It is an investment scheme and it profits along with the owners just as the house edge makes the people lose - which is banked as your profit as an investor. Its a good method since a high roller winning a lot, most of the times would get greedy and make more bets losing a lot too. So dont get scared when a high roller wins a big amount, most of the high rollers are also addicts and hence they will lose it soon as well.
9480  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: April 22, 2017, 01:05:51 PM
No. Bitcoin can not be stable, because it is not controlled by anyone and depends only on user activity.
Is that what you think? In my own experience since i started use bitcoin in my daily transaction and see's what really happens on bitcoin i think 1 country had a full control of the price of bitcoin thats why the price decrease and increase that fast what do you think

I would rather not think of this on a country basis but I do agree that such things are true since the population using bitcoin is a very small fraction of the entire world and hence they cant influence the price to change by huge amounts in a single month. So maybe there are some underground operations going on and the prices are being pumped by specific countries.
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