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961  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOBL]*NOBLECOIN*WATER PROJECT SUCCESS:$5,147 RAISED!**COINEX**MARKETPLACE* on: February 23, 2014, 12:47:57 PM
Read and taken to heart, as I do all your posts. We are always trying to 50/50 NobleCoin, half towards the charitable side, and half towards the business, growth and services side of crypto (Movement vs Marketplace for example). Peter and The Water Project helped us begin to gain legitimacy with the Movement and we will continue with a second Project soon, however now we will be spending some time on business promotion, the Marketplace and services. You know what you're talking about and I'm always happy to know you're still around keeping an eye on us. Tongue

Ah yes Grin

I know it sounds really presumptuous of a bystander like myself to apparently tell you what to do...so please disregard any hot air (or what you perceive to be hot air because you know more details about your own coin then I do obviously). I do not mean to degrade your projects, only just that most of the time, people tend to focus on things they WANT, instead of things they NEED, no matter how against their ethos they might be, especially at times when they are frustrated and can't help just doing something to not feel helpless. That's a downward spiral, as you surely know.

I only hope that there may be some useful observations I make that could be of use to you.

I really do appreciate you taking a lone outsider's words seriously enough to consider them, and I hope it was of help to you. Be assured, I have been keeping this thread open on my tabs since its inception and can't remember the last time I shut it off Smiley

Best of wishes,

HP
962  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOBL]*NOBLECOIN*WATER PROJECT SUCCESS:$5,147 RAISED!**COINEX**MARKETPLACE* on: February 23, 2014, 11:57:15 AM
May I suggest holding back on humanitarian or idealistic projects, and instead work very hard to gain the attention of whales and other investors? I applaud your efforts, but we can't eat an omelet before even breaking open the egg case. Those kinds of projects seem very premature at this point, and would take away attention, patience, efforts and energy from things that needs to be done first: Works that will make this coin recognized as it should be and be taken seriously in the mainstream crypto market, one of the most important being public attention and demand - and these things require a coin to be profitable and valuable.

You should be very happy with our next focus. While we want to do good in the world with crypto (being noble) we do understand what you're saying here. A second project will begin with The Water Project while we look for more larger charities interested in accepting/working with us & crypto. However we will be focusing on promotion of services and the marketplace to a massive audience next.

Thank you for giving this much attention to someone who is in the end a mere bystander. I am sure noble is just getting started Smiley

Also, I edited some things in to that post, so please take some time to look it over Smiley
963  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOBL]*NOBLECOIN*WATER PROJECT SUCCESS:$5,147 RAISED!**COINEX**MARKETPLACE* on: February 23, 2014, 11:44:10 AM
I agree Honeypot, and with all due respect, we have emailed and gone through the voting rounds on major exchanges for six weeks now. Community members have even emailed with the hint of 'prices' to get listed. We have emailed almost a hundred (literally) crypto media outlets, every single one that has run a story on the Dogesled and the Worldcoinwell actually, with the full story about our Water Project beginning, Marketplace deals, and the successful wrap-up of our Water Project donation drive (of which I cynically continue to point out, coins with 20x our market cap struggled with and still have not 100% delivered on themselves).

We are getting zero response from exchanges or media (BTCGeek & CryptoArticles are exceptions we are very grateful for). We're not even getting responses regarding 'pricing'. We're getting down-voted constantly on Reddit, by other communities I imagine. This is why I continue to ask our community to keep getting the word out there. We are being held down, on purpose or subconsciously, but the longer we stay here delivering the good stuff (more of which is coming) the harder it will be to ignore us forever, and sooner or later our time will come. Unfortunately, a number have left, unhappy the Marketplace did not make them rich, ignoring the larger picture (BTC & Mtgox) and declaring us a failing coin.

On a personal level, it is getting frustrating and I am getting a little cynical as 100s of BTC pour into s*** like Panda, Stackcoins & Max, but there is no way in Hell the devs and ambassadors of NobleCoin are going anywhere soon no matter what happens to our price. If anyone for a second thinks the first month and a half is going to be the culmination of how much we put into this coin, they are very wrong.

Thank you, Rofo. I know I stated the above before, and I don't mean to pester you.

I only wish to encourage you and the devs, let you know you are not alone in feeling that way. We do know that getting 'frustrated' is the first step to disaster. This coin is barely old enough as it is, and quitting is not an option.

May I suggest holding back on humanitarian or idealistic projects, and instead work very hard to gain the attention of whales and other investors? I applaud your efforts, but we can't eat an omelet before even breaking open the egg case. Those kinds of projects seem very premature at this point, and would take away attention, patience, efforts and energy from things that needs to be done first: Works that will make this coin recognized as it should be and be taken seriously in the mainstream crypto market, one of the most important being public attention and demand - and these things require a coin to be profitable and valuable.

Your efforts at such projects and propagation of your ideas behind this coin is not wasted - they made an impression on the people. However, that much may be enough for now - we need to curtail a bit of such attention on those projects and focus 90% or more of your efforts on, for the lack of better word, pumping this coin up to the place where it should be if it is to have the power to help others.

A coin that is undervalued and is unrecognized, a coin that cannot even help itself, cannot help others. You must be secure, valuable, and stable before really being effective in helping others. Nobility without strength is meaningless, and altruism or sense of motivation to help without being able to take care of your own is not a proper nobility but an exercise in empty self-congratulation. Charity without self-awareness is irresponsibility, and helping yourself just means you are getting ready to expand your ability to truly bring about realizing your ideals.

As I said, demand can follow if prices rise. A short term investing of a big player, which may leave bag holders, may still be what we need since bag holders don't stay that way forever - eventually market grows to its gradual and natural growth, and we DO need that kind of demand and publicity. Profit is always a good motivator to force people's attention.

All the efforts are nothing if people don't WANT to pay attention - unless they are 'entertained' as doge, or just plain hyped as MAX. This type of whale attention may be just what we need - at the same time as getting it to cryptsy of course.

I just believe that we may be taking a little too impractical and self-motivation based approach to this, rather than 'whatever works' which is really the way to go in the beginning. You cannot do anything unless you ARE something. That must be established first.

As for cryptsy.......hound big vern until he gives Grin
964  Economy / Speculation / Re: By December 31st, 2014 we will have touched $5000/BTC on: February 23, 2014, 11:33:32 AM
I don't understand why people are panicking this badly.

So far, Bitcoin has roughly followed previous patterns. Drop to 500 or even around 400 or 300 will fit the pattern exactly, followed by 8x to 10x bubble rise in another 9 months or so.

Of course, we have greater variables now with regulations and crackdowns as well as more public exposure and media attention.

For all such new unknowns, crypto and bitcoin specifically is following a remarkably steady and regular pattern similar to the past.

I believe a plunge down to around 500, followed by prolonged period of sideway movement along that line, with rise up to 5000 and even 6000 by the end of this year, followed by another plunge to 2500-3000 followed by rise to 15,000 and above is not out of the question, excluding every country on earth officially banning crypto.

Some regulations and official attention may even bolster the market for a while as really big players and investors seriously get into the game - right now the volatility is keeping serious money away due to fear of complete anarchy and lack of financial security that is crypto 'market's.

965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AnimeCoin [アニメコイン] ANI on: February 23, 2014, 10:11:09 AM
Cryptsy is needed for this coin, and greater publicity.

Let's expand this coin to generate interest from vast anime-related fan base around the world. Don't be discouraged, and stop trying to list this on minor exchanges where they will dilute demand. Get it to a mainline exchange (cryptsy) where it will be in the sights of big players.

HP
966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ••• [ANN][SMC] SmartCoin • KGW • 9 EXCHANGES ••• on: February 23, 2014, 10:07:30 AM
May I ask what's happening with the cryptsy listing?

It would be necessary to bring this coin to the price it deserves. Do not be discouraged by the current prices, but instead think of ways to invigorate the coin and incorporate the coin into mainstream money-rich pathway that is beyond here on the sub-sub forum where SMC is currently buried.

Cryptsy listing, and publicity.

Smartcoin already has a good name. Don't let it go to waste and bring it to life.

967  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [USDe] Unitary Status Dollar eCoin *MANDATORY Update Before Block #91,000* on: February 23, 2014, 10:06:41 AM
With respect to this coin, please allow me to say this:

USDE desperately needs to get on a major exchange, such as cryptsy being the top candidate. Current minor exchanges are choking the life out of this coin. Being spread out around so many minor and unstable exchanges is not an advantage - it dilutes demand and supply, and is actually bad for a coin in the long term.

Greater publicity and greater interest generated by steady work of our good developers is also necessary and should coincide with anticipated listing on cryptsy.

This coin is multi-pool resistant, and is scrypt based. That counts for something.

Combined with efforts devs have already put into this coin, it should signal a good time to burst it out into the open and bring its potential to the full view of the public instead of being buried in the sub-sub forum here.

Right now, being buried here and also not being visible enough due to lack of 'right' kind of publicity (do anything - there is little such thing as bad publicity) is suffocating demand.

#1, ensure cryptsy listing.

#2, ensure USDE coin gets the publicity it deserves.

#3, if necessary, recruit a whale or big investors to gradually and naturally increase the value of this coin.

Remember, without demand, all coins are doomed no matter how noble the intention of the devs are. Eventually this can go the way of earthcoin with burned out and frustrated devs who in the end need some kind of return of their investment to see the worth in a coin.

We don't live on ideas alone. We live on bread too.

USDE already has ideas and values. Let's bring in some bread and propel this coin to its rightful place in the top 10 of coinmarketcap listing and beyond Smiley

HP
968  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NOBL]*NOBLECOIN*WATER PROJECT SUCCESS:$5,147 RAISED!**COINEX**MARKETPLACE* on: February 23, 2014, 10:04:43 AM
With respect to this coin, please allow me to say this:

Noble desperately needs to get on a major exchange, such as cryptsy being the top candidate. Current minor exchanges are choking the life out of this coin that has achieved so much in such short time (AMAZON GIFT CARDS? For a 1 month old ALT COIN?). Being spread out around so many minor and unstable exchanges is not an advantage - it dilutes demand and supply, and is actually bad for a coin in the long term.

Greater publicity and greater interest generated by steady work of our good developers is also necessary and should coincide with anticipated listing on cryptsy.

This coin is multi-pool resistant, and is scrypt based. That counts for something.

Combined with efforts devs have already put into this coin, it should signal a good time to burst it out into the open and bring its potential to the full view of the public instead of being buried in the sub-sub forum here.

Right now, being buried here and also not being visible enough due to lack of 'right' kind of publicity (do anything - there is little such thing as bad publicity) is suffocating demand.

#1, ensure cryptsy listing.

#2, ensure Noble coin gets the publicity it deserves.

#3, if necessary, recruit a whale or big investors to gradually and naturally increase the value of this coin.

Remember, without demand, all coins are doomed no matter how noble the intention of the devs are. Eventually this can go the way of earthcoin with burned out and frustrated devs who in the end need some kind of return of their investment to see the worth in a coin.

We don't live on ideas alone. We live on bread too.

Noble already has ideas and values. Let's bring in some bread and propel this coin to its rightful place in the top 10 of coinmarketcap listing and beyond Smiley

HP
969  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Women have to take the lead! on: February 19, 2014, 12:43:11 AM
The thing with Women is: Why are they becoming strong now? Because they are allowed to. But real power is not granted, it is taken. Feminism is a luxury and we as a society can only afford it now. Feminism does not contribute, it takes away and offers nothing. Feminism is a child.

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It is a delusion. Just a bunch of posh girls and 'women' acting out as if they can make their spoiled and soft ways a common reality under the very system they claim to hate but actually guarentees their luxury.

Respect is earned, not granted.

No man or women is above the responsibility that comes with your rights or privileges. Women better get their heads screwed on straight if they don't want this bitch fest to eventually set back women's position a hundred years in the near future.
970  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Women have to take the lead! on: February 18, 2014, 11:45:38 PM
Women, be proud of your own specialties instead of trying to behave as men.

Some of the strongest and most respected women I've met throughout my life are those who were fully invested and dedicated towards their own sphere of influence, and no husband or son dared question her authority on such matters.

While you might stupidly believe wearing a suit and acting 'professional' is supposedly a way to 'equality', you are not doing yourself any favors by being a walking sign post of 'I am trying to compensate' and generally acting in a very fragile, insecure way.

Women have their own spheres of influence and specialties that are just as respectable and in many ways much more valuable then your expendable gender counterparts. If you can't respect yourself and constantly bitch and moan like a 12 year old girl who just got her period, don't expect others to truly respect you.

While women may not necessarily 'take the lead' in majority of the cases, that alone does not mean women are inferior. Men have limitations in areas that women do not. Be proud of who you are and secure in your identity, instead of trying to stupidly compensate for some kind of perceived feelings of subservience.

Men or women, people NEVER respect those who are afraid, shaken, and insecure as many 'professional' women are.
971  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Women have to take the lead! on: February 18, 2014, 09:22:46 AM
the hell?
972  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I Am Trying To Start A Bitcoin Club For Chinese High School Students on: February 16, 2014, 06:24:31 AM
Tell them not to sell their kidneys for bitcoin.

I am half serious.
973  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 06:48:08 AM
asking again: where can i trade these coins?
yes you will answer cryptorush. but you can only deposit the ORIGINAL pandacoin there. not this wolong-clone..
or is there some trick to do that? like something only wolong-panda-coin crew can access?

Scroll down to The Pandacoin.

Not Panda.
974  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 06:19:06 AM
LET ME BE CLEAR:

The Panda coin (ticker PANDA) is the one you are looking for.


PAND ticker (old one) is a different coin.
975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 06:06:14 AM
PANDA is trading at crytorush.

It has been barely 2 hours since launch and price is already almost twice the price it was for the IPO, and seems to be going up.

Cryptsy when?!
976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 05:53:45 AM
Also,

Can some people who successfully mined their coins tell us their hashrate, approximate time spent on mining, and the amount of coins they got?
977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 05:50:33 AM
On which exchanges?

Update your OP and let people know some info on the exchanges.
978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 05:03:36 AM
CUDA allowed, or not? Just vertminer?

CUDAminer works just fine just add --algo=scrypt:2048

Could you tell me where to add it exactly in the bat file line?
979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 04:54:21 AM
CUDA allowed, or not? Just vertminer?
980  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LAUNCHED![pandacoin] The Panda Coin ♥ Scrypt Adaptive-N w/Kimotos Gravity Well ★ on: February 14, 2014, 04:50:46 AM
DO YOU NEED VERTMINER or can you use CUDA?
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