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961  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Turning crypto into fiat or is that even nessesary anymore! on: December 16, 2017, 03:55:45 AM
We still rule by fiat today unfortunately, it is necessary also to save the value of your bitcoin in times of sudden fluctuations of price
Yeah, most especially for those who may want to spend or have their major source of income in cryptocurrency ! The necessity to convert to fiat is still there until maybe we can see merchants getting to start making use of it and in that case, bitcoin itself would have become usable for micro transactions and that would mean the scaling issue has been in a way resolved and being upgraded every time.

Another reason for them for not holding cypto is volatility of cryptos. But for someone who really understands the trend with crypto and how far we have come, volatility should even be of less concern. At this time that things have even gotten much better as the strength of bitcoin keeps increasing and we are not seeing corrections that would even stay for too long, that shows that the market is getting matured.
962  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 16, 2017, 03:34:10 AM
I think nothing will happen
Nothing will happen to bitcoin if the dollar falls or for that matter if any currency of the world falls, it will not affect the bitcoin. Bitcoin is a different concept of the currency which works on specific hash algorithm and it is a decentralized currency. Where as all the regular currencies centralized and their respective state banks own those currencies. So Bitcoin should not be mistaken with rise or fall of any other currency.
No, the market of Bitcoin will keep rising in value only if people decide to start pushing their USD into bitcoin at least with some other system which they can trust better.

We have to understand that USD is not the only currency in the world and in forex, it is always trying to stay relevant and the fact that it is controlled is the reason why we do not see all the falls going on. We should see it as the market being pumped and that is why they have decided to monopolize the whole system.
963  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Minimum coin to begin trading? on: December 16, 2017, 02:52:30 AM
there is no minimum or ideal amount of BTC or ETH to start tranding actifity, with a large amount you will get great results as well, and did not rule out also will lose big. so to start the tranding, all it takes is patience and thoroughness.
I would not say there is no minimum because stuffs like 0.001 btc will really not make sense to trade unless you are just lucky to hit some big coin that decided to shoot up so crazy than you can imagine and targeting those coins can be hard unless you want to take some FOMO risk though.

Just like you said, with a large amount, you can easily get some good result and do well by spreading your holdings which can really be pretty awesome. Instead of waiting for one trade to make profit and then missing another good trade, huge bank will help you to get in on every slightest opportunity.
964  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how risky is day trading? on: December 15, 2017, 06:45:33 PM
With the unpredictable changes in bitcoin price people have chose to hold instead of day trading,I mean the majority have.
How risky is day trading at the moment?

Its very risky nowadays because bitcoins value now are so volatile and very unpredictable, there will have a big pump and after a moment will be a big dump. Its more safe if you will just go for a long term trading and wait for your goal to reach for long term.
It is really safer to hold and then watch the tide of events or where everything leads to.
Day trading now is more like playing with the tiger's tail and you may not just get beaten but get eaten by the tigrish volatility of the market.

There is a huge instability now and a lot of uncertainty which is causing some pretty big fluctuations and unless you love taking risks, which can be profitable, I would not advise anyone to do it.
965  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you think its the right time to sell Bitcoin ? on: December 15, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
Do you think it will be the best time to sell as there are two kind of speculations one says the value of bitcoin will reach $20,000 by 2018 and there are also speculations that the bitcoin might go through a dump in upcoming days but i know we cannot believe into random predictions by random users due to the volatility of bitcoin but i need some suggestions whether to hold on to bitcoin or sell it out and invest some of it into altcoins and then wait for the price drop to reinvest into bitcoin which i am not sure will happen or not.

It really depends on how much profit you've made so far. Personally, I will hodl until it reaches at least $100,000. If it doesn't reach this level, then that's fine.

If the price does drop, I doubt it'll be a massive drop, the overall trend is upwards and it's likely to stay that way for the next couple of years.

If you REALLY need the money now, then by all means sell. But if you've got your spare cash held in bitcoins, I'd continue holding as you might regret it otherwise.
Everybody sure knows what they are looking for and so far so good, anyone who is pleased with their investment is free to sell. Someone else who see this present value as a better price and understands the value better will pick it from there. Looking at the trends from the start, I am sure no one really needs a soothsayer to know that people have been saying whatever they like about an imminent crash right from the beginning of this year.

We may just do what is pleasing for us and whatever happens at the end, you will have ourselves to blame. There is no one that can tell you what will happen even in the next few seconds.

If you are basing your investment on speculations, then you are really not ready to invest. We all understand that bitcoin is volatile, but right now, I do not see how bitcoin is going to crash, but if you have all the proof to make your decision to sell, then it is your call.
966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does bitcoin's price volatility affect your gambling habits? on: December 15, 2017, 05:54:36 PM
I'm lowering the amount of Bitcoin I bet when the prices are increasing like crazy. And also some Gambling site was lowering the amount of minimum bet (like nitrogensports, etc). So yeah I definitely bet less than I usually do.
Apparently. When it all started and you could even and easily bet 0.01 bitcoin for a start, I doubt if there can ever be anyone who would even want to try that kind of shit now. A time will really come when probably betting even 1 satoshi will be a hard thing to do and then you see so many people just bailing out. The thing is that it will just keep reducing the amount at least for now as the price keeps increasing.
967  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is the best way to quit gambling and start trading?? on: December 15, 2017, 05:03:51 PM
Decide and be determined to quit gambling.  That is the best way to quit gambling and start trading.  Nothing beats determination if you are really truth to your cause.  I see people instantly change their ways once they decided and determined to change their ways.  At the end of the day it is your decision and only you can make or break it.  After quitting gambling, entering trading venture is easy though you need to learn the basic and learn in the long run.
It's maybe hard for the people that didn't have 'self-confidence' because of that both of internal and external factor is needed to be able to help people quit gambling for good or to change it to more useful activities.
Self-confidence really does not have anything to do with gambling. It is just a matter of self-control and for those who really had it, and then they would not have been an addict in the first place.

Moreover, it is never too late to always be able to control those impulse and for those who really want to do it, it won't take a huge thing from them to start learning how to trade and that is even an awesome way, because they will have a lot to get their hands on and in a good way that eventually they would just forget gambling ever exists.
968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to spot a gambler addicted? on: December 15, 2017, 03:32:33 PM
They will always try to play, even though their money is gone. Not even a few gambling addicts, selling the stuff they have just to go back to gambling. I often see the addicts to sell mobile phones, motorcycles, and the worst of them is sell the house.
Yes gambling addicteds are spotted by once they start to lose in gambling, they will lose their control and also chances of selling the their personal things like mobile, bike etc and also they willn not interact with the closed ones like family members and freinds. Some people may steal money for playing gambling these are all the indication of addiction to gambling.
It was the impulse they could not control that led them into the addiction in the first place. Most times in the casino, there is just always this guy I usually keep seeing and it is always more like he has made the casino his home.

Even when he is losing, he would just keep on without being able to control himself. Even if it is glaring to walk away, there is always just that thing that keeps pulling him back. For such a person, you won't need a soothsayer to tell you he or she is an addict.
969  Economy / Economics / Re: Legalizing Bitcoin on: December 15, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
So in the most countries, bitcoin is neither declared legal or illegal. In some it is declared illegal and some are actually allowing it and also promoting their own alts.
So what would a government needs to do to regulate bitcoin in the country? And how can a government actually benefit from legalizing bitcoin in the country? How can it actually support the economic system of the country.  

We hope so that bitcoin be legalize to all country's even in our country because right now bitcoin was illegal here in my country and they broadcast to all television and radio program that if you are joining in bitcoin they well arrest you so thay many of the bitcoiner was afraid on what happen. So that we hope the government officials was declared bitcoin legal in my country.
Well, for now we just have to keep hoping. However, we need to also understand that the government not legalizing it does not make bitcoin unusable. Bitcoin is already a huge part of the system and it is doing pretty well for itself while the government already recognized it and that is why in some countries, taxation is already occurring.

Hence one way or the other, bitcoin to me has been legalized in most places and it does not have to be until the government of each country has announced it.
970  Economy / Economics / Re: What coin do you believe will be next to bitcoin? on: December 15, 2017, 01:58:53 PM
Bitcoin cash still has the capacity to be the next coin to bitcoin as this coin has a very nice teams and big guy behind it. I think dash should be following bitcoin cash as in terms of pricing this coin has done very well because it is the first mesternode. We should trying to push others coin up as  bitcoin seen to outperform all of them in terms of pricing lately and this is not good for crypto currencies development.
Bitcoin cash is just a fake manipulated coin that would not even stand a chance in the long run.
It is not all about the big guy and I really want to see how long they are going to keep up with their manipulations when people start realizing it was not really a coin worth it in the first place.

We cannot say for now which coin will really stand the test of time to be next to bitcoin. Ethereum has been doing well on that spot but anything can happen.
971  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading or working in signature campaigns? on: December 14, 2017, 07:07:10 PM
This is what i do, i joined signature campaign paid via bitcoin and i do bounties like facebook and twitter bounties paid via altcoins or tokens, the payout came from btc based signature campaign is to buy some cheap altcoins, hold it for a certain period of time until the desired target profit is reach then sell out. Same with the the bounties, the payout is hold that tokens or coins then sell out when the desired target price is reached but you have to wait for more than a month or 2. So both working and trading is what i did for additional income aside from my main job.
Honestly, what most people should understand is that all you need with campaigns are just the resources you have built over time to earn something substantial as a passive income and enable you to hold for the long run some of these coins including bitcoin which could give you some profit in the long run.

Trading is more of full time thing if you want to get the best out of it and for someone who is basically not ready, it is better they just build what they have and earn something good later on.

I would advise if you do not have any knowledge about trading, then do not even bother yourself much about it until you learn. It takes a lot and you cannot at all compare it to campaigns. Campaigns are just some pretty easy way to earn some bucks and if you can hit a good project, you can always get the best from campaigns. Trading is cool to make some good cash, but not as easy as it looks when compared to campaigns.
972  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to choose good coin!? on: December 14, 2017, 06:21:48 PM
Some good advice has already been offered here regarding paying attention to the market cap, whitepaper and project team. One strategy I use is to join the discord/slack/telegram of a coin I'm interested in and try to ascertain how active and professional the dev team is.
That's good idea, but if dev team so active on social so how they can devolop the product ?
Lol, the truth is sometimes, no matter how busy devs are, they still always try as much as possible to give their investors or holders of their coin an update on the progress of their work or what is being done on the coin.

All the above, it is not something they will just keep coming every now and then to keep giving news on social media platform. No huge time for that when there is always a lot of work to do. But, many people are not understanding these and falling into scam coins just by observing social media activities.
973  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your advice: When should I cash out? on: December 14, 2017, 05:50:19 PM
NO one can advise you when you should cash out it is totally up to you when you want to sell. It is you who has to decide when will it be profitable for you to sell your bitcoins. One thing that can be suggested is just keeping in mind, only sell when you think you are making a profit and just don't sell anytime you feel that won't be a smart move.
Yes, obviously. Everyone knows what they look for in a trade and as long as you know what you are doing, then there is no need asking for opinions. BTC market is one market that is highly unpredictable as you might predict one thing now and then you discover something else happening.

Like you said, it is not really a smart move to just sell at any time, and most times, it is always better to even sell when a correction is imminent. So the best, is to wait for that moment and if anything goes wrong, just know how to bail out quickly.
974  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Signature campaigns on: December 14, 2017, 03:29:13 PM
Reading this, I guess I'm very lucky to found Newbie signature campaign with BTC payment..

I believe they are still open for jr. members, so if you are interested take a look:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2494912

Signature campaign is no doubt one of the best ways of making money. The best thing about signature campaign is that it is an open forum for all of us. We can make money quite comfortably by joining any sort of signature campaign. In addition to this, we don’t need to have any kind of capital just like we need in case of trading or holding of bitcoins. We can earn a handsome amount of money simply by becoming a part of this forum.
Really trying to picture how some people live their lives and then looking at how someone can come on this forum to rely on signature campaign to sustain him ?

Funny enough, I have heard not just only him but so many participants in signature campaigns saying what they earn is enough to take good care of everything they can ever think of and then I see that the highest one can ever get even as a legendary is about $200 per week. How on earth can that sustain anyone and then adding the family to it ?
975  Other / Off-topic / Re: Who else wants Bitcoin as their Christmas present? on: December 14, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
With the so much rave,  popularity of Bitcoin and the rise in value. Who wouldn't love to get some Bitcoins as a Christmas gift.
Having a Bitcoin for Christmas present would be most greatly appreciated, it would be awesome.
Apparently, who would not ? I can imagine such a scenario when I just get to see a drop of 1BTC in my wallet right now, the Christmas would just be like the whole downpour of the sky on me at every single moment of it. Nevertheless, it is imperative to stop looking for Christmas gift and just create the gift for ourselves by working hard and seeing what we have gathered to keep increasing in the long run.

Personally I like to suggest: Work for your bitcoin and stop looking for Santa clause. No one will definitely care since they are doing their own best to gain what they can.

Nevertheless, if it ends up happening, then you should count yourself really lucky as that would be one of the precious gift anyone will ever give to you at this day and age when bitcoin's value just keeps increasing every single day.
976  Economy / Speculation / Re: Total crypto market is now worth HALF A TRILLION dollars on: December 14, 2017, 12:05:17 PM
BTC to break $300B cap. This just took the cryptocurrency market to an astonishing $500B!

Yay, 500 billion dollars are a lot of money, i just saw a lot of people on the TV talking bullshit about bitcoin, that it was a ponzi, and bla bla bla.

It is always the same, but no one is looking at all the money that is being invested on bitcoin, and i think that this is the most important thing about cryptos.

Without trust, there is nothing left in here, it just works like a relationship, without trust, we can not go anywhere.
Really a lot of money. I really do not care what people say this days as they just end up showing their own level of ignorance to the whole world that way. The trust is what will keep the community and the market in general strong and you are right because if that can easily be squashed, then we are just going to be in for a free fall.

Half trillion is astonishing indeed and that is a lot to take in at once. There is so much going for bitcoin right now and I am really hoping all the investors are really not just getting greedy and they understand where they are investing.

I am saying this because, we already have the manipulators in play here and they will want to do anything to have a solid hand in the market which they can only do by trying to manipulate the market. I may be wrong, but it is possible.
977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Updated prediction of bitcoin price 4 weeks-4 years on: December 14, 2017, 10:56:04 AM
I think this is a real accurate prediction, I've seen analysis about the upcoming Dip that bitcoin may take and it will be a real low value up to $8000 mark, but it will be a momentum for bitcoin to increase further up to $25,000 mark value, and Let's say it can make it even more because of a lot of new investor and the demands will increase indeed further more a lot will sure happen in that speculated dates and years that you have predicted.
This would be the moment some investors will be waiting for anyway and I would see that as a chance to quickly buy in more for those that missed out from the entire rally. I am pretty sure demand will increase in the long run and it would be a good thing for investors to understand when some of this things end up occurring that this is a dip that may not last for so long.

It is a speculative market quite alright and no one can really predict the future but the OP raised some points and definitely one of them must happen.
978  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will reach 20k price point before Christmas on: December 14, 2017, 08:45:25 AM
We cannot 100% sure about bitcoin will reach the 20000 USD price point before Christmas. It is not tough and also it is not easy also as the festival season people will sell their bitcoin for their Christmas and new year purchase so it is not possible to achieve who knows bitcoin can do overnight achievement also.
Right. It is not tough and it is not easy. We have seen bitcoin break so many highs and we have seen some huge corrections as well. So far, bitcoin is really doing great but we cannot say if we will keep seeing that trend in a short while or we will just keep having some sideways movement for now. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens before December ends to know if we are in for a new surprise or not.

But it is getting tough now to really get past the previous top. Anything can happen before December and we cannot really say for now, if there could be a probability of another bull run. One thing for sure though is that, bitcoin is here to stay and in the long run, we are going to be having some huge value placed on it.
979  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: December 12, 2017, 06:23:54 PM
Simply nothing, it doesn't matter which next paper currency is going to rule the world the only thing does matter is the variation of KING (bitcoin) in the cryptocurrency market. It is also possible that after the downfall of USD, bitcoin will gain more popularity because of a major shift from the USD to other currencies, and may be people would prefer bitcoin at that moment.
Dollar is indeed a different market entirely even though it is still somehow intertwined in the crypto world being a currency and since bitcoin's value is being tested against the dollar. However, with people saying that crash in USD will affect Bitcoin simply shows how ignorant they are.

In the worst case scenario that dollar is even losing its value in the market, just like you said, attention just like we are seeing right now will be focused on bitcoin and people will find solace instead and that of course will even make the value of bitcoin to keep rising. However, a fall is normal and for those trading the Forex market, understands that better.
980  Economy / Economics / Re: Still Buying Bitcoin at $10K? on: December 12, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
I think bitcoin always in good condition. The graphic on market said that bitcoin always increase for many times. So, if you want buy bitcoin maybe you will get many profits in future Smiley
It is not even maybe, the possibilities are clear. A lot will end up coming for bitcoin that even everyone will be astonished. Buying bitcoin now is the best bet as that is just a very good price for anyone to buy. In few days’ time, who knows ?
We may even be talking $50,000 instead of the $20,000 we have all been expecting since we all thought that would end up being the value before the end of the year but we already have it now. Better days ahead.
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