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9601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: December 04, 2016, 02:19:39 PM
There's always luck involved-sometimes less,sometimes more but luck always plays its role.What you can do is increase your chances of winning in cases of sports betting or poker for example where what you do actually matters whereas in dice or lottery all there is is luck and in these cases it defines the outcome.So I believe that luck is always involved in the game and you have to rely on that.

That is certainly true. But luck is not something that we can enjoy at any time. Because luck will only appear at certain times and maybe if luck came we just get a little victory of whopping and much (huge losses). In gambling do not expect better luck, because it just makes us wrong focus and ended up just getting a major defeat without getting what we dream of or desire

And we don't have assurance when luck will come to us. So, if you think that you are lucky for that day, then take the whole advantage of it.

Gamble all the way but when you think that luck is already gone and it is all giving you now a losing streak, then you are not lucky anymore.

Simple and easy to understand, I don't know why there are some many who are really addicted and doesn't stop when on a losing streak.
If that's the case then simply don't rely on luck. Have your own method to win in gambling and learn to enjoy it as it supposed to be seen like that.

Good point there and that's what some addicted gamblers do. They don't rely with luck and thinks that they are genius enough to beat the house and the game.

It may be effective for sometime and sometimes it isn't. But still in the end, they will ask for luck to come to them, this is the true attitude of gamblers, always relying in luck.
9602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 04, 2016, 02:10:16 PM
I think the problem with most gamblers is that they get into a slippery slope and can't ever recover from their losses. Worse yet, they can't stop thinking about their losses either. So it is a pretty bad situation for them.

The first step to resolving a gambling problem is to acknowledge that you do have a problem - not denying that you have a problem.
You are right, but to a lot of persons admitting they are mistaken is in fact very difficult specially when the mistake is so big that is life changing like being addicted to gambling.

but if gamblers has getting loss they just only said my luck won't work properly so i only get loss in big money. we've seen person like this, and if this is one of our member of family then we should help this person so that person can get out from the problem. beside that, the other problem from gambling is many of gamblers still don't want to stay away from gambling although they know that playing gambling everyday is not good for their money and their habit.

Those people who are thinking that way are crazy, they keep on hoping with their luck that seems to be not working at all.

And that's the problem with them, they keep on believing that luck will come to them one day even they are losing everything.

They won't stop until they have funds for gambling or their lives are not yet wrecked.
Gambling is so risky to lose your money instantly, as Op said ''If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!"
The problem come next is people thinking about their losses instead of let it go and try again and over again to recover their losses, it's bad idea to do and you would fall to gambling addiction.

And the cycle will just keep on rolling and rolling again with those problem with that recovering of their losses and that's always happening.

The outcome of recovering their losses most of the time is failing, so another problem is coming out.

They are even not thinking about what's going to happen if the same thing occurs again when they want to recover their losses, because they will lose again.
It is, and it will only stop when we stop as it's a never ending problem if we still have the money to gambling. Absolutely it could ruin's one life if they are not too careful with gambling and they let it enter into their lives, it's hard to work when you are too focus on unproductive thing like gambling.

Yeah the only solution for all the problems which is related to gambling is by making an initiative to completely stop your addiction.

It's an headache for being a never-ending problem. And yes, it is hard work in gambling because of the same results, lose all the way.

9603  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 04, 2016, 01:57:13 PM
Blockchain gives people the opportunity itself to act as banks, holding Bitcoin digital wallets on their computers or smartphones. This is the best that can offer Bitcoin users.

Don't forget the fast transactions that can give by bitcoin whenever we are going need to send some bitcoins to our friends or relatives.

And for those people who will not going to believe bitcoin today, then in the future they will regret it in the end when they sees bitcoin flies high.

Yeah, people who don't like to be a part of the bitcoin will truly feel for it in the future. Price as well the acceptance of bitcoin from local stores is getting increased. Banks will be following the technology of bitcoin to grab the attention of common man too.
They try to compete with bitcoin as they see that bitcoin is very progressive and they want to imitate the system, but one thing they can't imitate is bitcoin being decentralized because banks will always be centralized like the government is, this believer will of bitcoin will not adopt in something centralized as they find freedom online.

They are not trying to compete with bitcoin because they can see the potential of bitcoin and they will abuse it for their service to offer.

Banks are canning they will not enter a game that they know their services will be outdated and lose to some new crypto currency.

So instead of competing, they are adopting it and possibly they are the ones who will implement tax to bitcoin.
9604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 04, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
Eh, no.  You all know very well that the way casinos (or any place that lets you bet) are set up, the longer you play the more you lose.  It's that simple.  You might strike it rich with luck, but if you stay at the table long enough your winnings will go to ZERO.

Why people think they can gamble as a career is beyond me.

I guess they are becoming comfortable when they are able to experience the taste of some winnings with gambling.

And they tend to think that gambling will be the best way to be a source of their income and good in the long run.

But just all we know that it is not really the best way for many failed with it and shares their experiences that gambling is not profitable in the long run.
With our resistance to quit gambling, that means we are still happy despite the loses we experience. If this is an entertainment for you , you would not mind how much you lose and even if you are not profitable in the long run as long as you can afford what you have lose and will lose.

Gamblers are happy with gambling since it is really an entertainment for all of us and only when we failed to continue our sole purpose and we become greedy will we lose unexpected amount of money.

I know that not all the gamblers are just gambling for fun many of them are not really into it, that's a fact that we all know about them.

Even though they are saying that, they are having the hope that they will be able to recover those losses that they've made.

But if they will, they will just probably say that they are only gambling for the sake of entertainment and not for the profit.

Because reality will kill us, that gambling is not profitable in the long run.
9605  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 04, 2016, 01:33:02 PM
The list of  people I scammed?
So far the list is empty...

But you can call me boy...even old boy...because it is so...(lol)

You can say
I believe that winspiral is a horrible scammer...ok
But please do not say:
winspiral is a scammer...because winspiral never scammed and will never do.

So old boy, as of now your list is empty? Because the people are not even falling into the trap of your "impossible to lose" scheme.

So you want to say that for real? That winspiral is truly a horrible scammer of the people who are not yet warned about your tactics?

Don't make me laugh that you will never do scam people because it is your practice already to make profit from scamming people.
9606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 03, 2016, 06:46:39 AM
Gambling can teach you one good lesson in life - Money is not easy to earn. It needs hard-work and a lot of determination from your side.

Gambling should not be a method to earn money for people. Its not fun, its pure greed that makes people gamble and hence it is dangerous and not recommended.

I find this positive about gambling but you don't have to experience on your own that gambling will just waste and wreck the money you've earned.

But if those people who really are not learning from the experience of other people needs to experience it with their own. And that will teach them that lesson.
9607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 03, 2016, 06:33:28 AM
Gambling is addicting because it touches one of the human weaknesses-greedness.
As everytime you win some you will want to earn more,even if you just won the lottery of a million dollar.
And if you lose you will most likely keep gambling and you will promise to yourself that you will stop when you get back the money you lost.

Yeah, gambling is not their enemy but themselves when gambling. Either they win or lose they still gamble because of the huge price or jackpot in it. They think it is their ticket of getting rich from it. Even if they already win, because they win it in gambling not from hard work, they lose their winning fast.

The hope of hitting the jackpot and winning some big amount with gambling is making the people falling into addiction with it.

Because no matter what happens and how many lose they will experience as long as they are hoping and believes that there is a shot that will be able to ascend and recover all their losses.

They will keep on gambling and makes them more addicted to it when they already experienced that shot of winning.
9608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 03, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
Eh, no.  You all know very well that the way casinos (or any place that lets you bet) are set up, the longer you play the more you lose.  It's that simple.  You might strike it rich with luck, but if you stay at the table long enough your winnings will go to ZERO.

Why people think they can gamble as a career is beyond me.

I guess they are becoming comfortable when they are able to experience the taste of some winnings with gambling.

And they tend to think that gambling will be the best way to be a source of their income and good in the long run.

But just all we know that it is not really the best way for many failed with it and shares their experiences that gambling is not profitable in the long run.
9609  Economy / Economics / Re: Reason why you should Buy bitcoin now on: December 03, 2016, 06:07:12 AM
Don't bitcoins have a lower rate of making potential gains as a few altcoins at the moment? Why is that?

What you suppose to say, I can't understand your sentence. Do you intend to say that you don't have bitcoins right now?

Or if you are saying that a few opportunities that will be able to be made with bitcoins then I disagree with it.

9610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: December 03, 2016, 05:53:14 AM
The best decision i have made in life is to quit gambling for my family and loved ones because gambling is worse if get addicted into it. You may lost all your money and all the important thing that you have. So better do to is quit gambling now.

It is a good thinking and decision. Everyone should in this way and give up for good reason. Gambling should be played vocationally for fun but if one can't control themselves then it is better to avoid completely. I gamble only very rarely and don't worry much about whether I win or lose.

You are one of the very few people that who are thinking about their loved ones and worries too much if you will to the point of becoming worse with gambling.

It is not bad to gamble but if that is affecting your loved ones then that is not good for you because you are setting aside the things that are more important.

And the most affected ones are your family that doesn't want you to be wrecked by gambling.
9611  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 03, 2016, 05:38:40 AM

Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

I can see already on you the scam and just read your signature and it can show already that it is your tactic to scam people.

Where on Earth you can find this type of investment?
Code:
IMPOSSIBLE to lose...you can only earn

Really impossible to lose? Even whales are losing their investments either because there is no assurance that you'll get profit.

All types of investments does have their own flaws and failure and you promise this? Oh come on, boy.

It's not a promise...it's a fact.
I propose you to try...
if you lose you are right...
if you lose i'm wrong...

I have proved for over 1 year that I'm right...
Prove us that I'm wrong.

If I say it is impossible it means that it is impossible.
You can only lose a part of what you have earned from winspiral:
This means that you have a part you can not lose.
No high school needed to understand this...you need just time to understand the system.

Thanks for the "come on, boy"...I could perhaps be your father or grandfather (lol)



Better to call you boy rather than to be my father or grand father because that is going to be a shame for me as well.

And am I reading it right? Do you say that investing with your system that says impossible to lose is a fact? Do you even know what you are saying?

I won't even waste my time for trying out your scamming scheme and I don't want to add to the list of those people who you scammed.
9612  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 02, 2016, 05:06:25 AM

Sorry you are wrong...

Where can you see scam tactics if there is no scam...you are not only wrong you are as well funny.

I offer satoshi at my members (the satoshi come from my sites income)
The members have the possibility to take the satoshi or to re-invest a part in the system.
Only a part because the member has to accept payout (lol)

When I say it is impossible to lose it is impossible to lose (lol)
Many people ask me to invest more...
Unfortunately it is not possible(it was possible only at the start)

I can see already on you the scam and just read your signature and it can show already that it is your tactic to scam people.

Where on Earth you can find this type of investment?
Code:
IMPOSSIBLE to lose...you can only earn

Really impossible to lose? Even whales are losing their investments either because there is no assurance that you'll get profit.

All types of investments does have their own flaws and failure and you promise this? Oh come on, boy.
9613  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 02, 2016, 04:46:07 AM
Blockchain gives people the opportunity itself to act as banks, holding Bitcoin digital wallets on their computers or smartphones. This is the best that can offer Bitcoin users.

Don't forget the fast transactions that can give by bitcoin whenever we are going need to send some bitcoins to our friends or relatives.

And for those people who will not going to believe bitcoin today, then in the future they will regret it in the end when they sees bitcoin flies high.
9614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 02, 2016, 04:38:29 AM
I think the problem with most gamblers is that they get into a slippery slope and can't ever recover from their losses. Worse yet, they can't stop thinking about their losses either. So it is a pretty bad situation for them.

The first step to resolving a gambling problem is to acknowledge that you do have a problem - not denying that you have a problem.
You are right, but to a lot of persons admitting they are mistaken is in fact very difficult specially when the mistake is so big that is life changing like being addicted to gambling.

but if gamblers has getting loss they just only said my luck won't work properly so i only get loss in big money. we've seen person like this, and if this is one of our member of family then we should help this person so that person can get out from the problem. beside that, the other problem from gambling is many of gamblers still don't want to stay away from gambling although they know that playing gambling everyday is not good for their money and their habit.

Those people who are thinking that way are crazy, they keep on hoping with their luck that seems to be not working at all.

And that's the problem with them, they keep on believing that luck will come to them one day even they are losing everything.

They won't stop until they have funds for gambling or their lives are not yet wrecked.
Gambling is so risky to lose your money instantly, as Op said ''If you not ready to lose your money, then don't even try to gamble!"
The problem come next is people thinking about their losses instead of let it go and try again and over again to recover their losses, it's bad idea to do and you would fall to gambling addiction.

And the cycle will just keep on rolling and rolling again with those problem with that recovering of their losses and that's always happening.

The outcome of recovering their losses most of the time is failing, so another problem is coming out.

They are even not thinking about what's going to happen if the same thing occurs again when they want to recover their losses, because they will lose again.
9615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 02, 2016, 04:15:04 AM
hi

i am getting addicted to gambling.And i am loosing a lot of money.I am loosing what i can't afford to lose.its sad that when you start loosing its just busted me again and again.at last i gamble for fun but now when i am getting addicted i am loosing too much.

Any suggestions are welcome  Smiley

Regards
Just try entertain yourself by reading books, watching tv, go play outsite and the best tips that I can suggest to you is just try to disconnect your internet for one months or don't go or read to any thread/posts that related to gambling, focus your mind calm yourself dude, just like you said gambling is fun but if you overdose it you might turn to addicted.
trying to disconnect the connection will not help because for sure it will really hard for us to do it, nowadays, we cannot live without internet. So, I don't think that it will be very effective, having some other things to do outside will help. Like playing in arcade or go to a joyride. Just make sure that you can really enjoy what you will do outside to forget gambling.

That won't help either and even you will block the gambling sites will not help either unless you are not the one that will do that.

But making yourself enjoy with other things will gonna help you out to stay away from gambling sites.

It can also help to have some games with xbox and do play with it.
9616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 02, 2016, 03:47:23 AM
I placed a bet on Golden State Warriors vs Houston Rockets. From looking at both of their records i could not decide on which one to pick because from my last bet on Golden State at home I picked the other team to win and they almost did with a score of 105-100. So it was close. I think this one won't be an easy win for GSW so I bet on points instead. Under on 220.5 is what I placed.
It's really hard because the warriors are playing at home and they are heavily favored on this game. It's either you will take the warriors moneyline and possible win a small amount due to the odds or take the Rockers +10.5 here.

Rockets have been playing great so far against an offensive them so there's a chance they will cover or even win.

Even Rockets are playing good for this season still the advantage will be for the Warriors. I believe also that this is an easy win for Warriors.

Play + crowd then all the advantage is with them, but I want to see how Harden cross over and make those guards dance in the way he wants.

But not today and I'll bet with Houston but with their game against Nuggets and Celtics.
9617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling problem on: December 02, 2016, 03:23:53 AM
I think the problem with most gamblers is that they get into a slippery slope and can't ever recover from their losses. Worse yet, they can't stop thinking about their losses either. So it is a pretty bad situation for them.

The first step to resolving a gambling problem is to acknowledge that you do have a problem - not denying that you have a problem.
You are right, but to a lot of persons admitting they are mistaken is in fact very difficult specially when the mistake is so big that is life changing like being addicted to gambling.

but if gamblers has getting loss they just only said my luck won't work properly so i only get loss in big money. we've seen person like this, and if this is one of our member of family then we should help this person so that person can get out from the problem. beside that, the other problem from gambling is many of gamblers still don't want to stay away from gambling although they know that playing gambling everyday is not good for their money and their habit.

Those people who are thinking that way are crazy, they keep on hoping with their luck that seems to be not working at all.

And that's the problem with them, they keep on believing that luck will come to them one day even they are losing everything.

They won't stop until they have funds for gambling or their lives are not yet wrecked.
9618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can I use my small amount for GAMBLING? on: December 01, 2016, 02:41:06 AM
use a small amount in gambling is the right choice. because then you can minimize the losses can you get. in addition, the small amount, you do not need to hesitate in taking decisions, because it is one of the reasons of defeat in gambling. keep control of yourself and still use a small amount

And this is one of the best way to start in gambling especially those people who are not familiar and very new in gambling.

Because even you will bet in higher way for sure that will make you bankrupt easily and there's no assurance that you'll get profit with it.

But if you will bet lower amount, this is good enough because it is affordable to lose and easy to recover when you lose.
9619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your aim in gambling???? on: December 01, 2016, 02:18:30 AM
i always want to earn from gambling but gambling doesnt give profit all the time.So i dont expect always to earn.currently, i am earning small amount of btc through gambling but i havent any aim.Because i think gambling wont fulfill my dream.So i just wanna having fun by doing gambling and dont wanna expect profit every gambling.

I suggest that don't aim to earn with gambling because profit here is very unstable instead if you want to earn some decent profit then you must try some other things or else you will just keep on hoping that you will get enough amount of bitcoins as you gamble. But for me, my aim is just enjoy the game and how it goes if there's some profit still be thankful.
but to me there cannot be any other aim of making money, although some people are pretending that they play gambling for making fun and enjoyment, but to me i think there is no fun and enjoyment in gambling if you are loosing money in gambling,
The fact is most of the people play gambling for making money, I think only a few number of people may be playing gambling for making fun enjoyment (but many other people are playing it for recovering their earlier losses) and some are even pretending that they play gambling for fun but I think there is no fun and enjoyment in gambling unless we aim for profits from it.

We can't stop them from aiming for getting profit in gambling as they are aiming it but for me, if you will aim for profit when you lose. That will make you disappoint and your day will be ruined. But if you are aiming for fun only, when you lose you won't be that upset because you don't expect that to come so when you win, that's a bonus for you.

You have the point with it but we can't be sure if we do really aiming just for the entertainment because when there is money involved.

Let's accept the fact that our mindsets are changing and we aim more for it or maybe you are just stable enough and you have decent resources for your life.

And you are just aiming for the entertainment that you can get with gambling but most of the people here are aiming for the profit.
If a person is trying to play for fun but cannot stop worrying about the profits then it is better for that person to find another hobby since ti will be impossible for that person to actually enjoy gambling.

To have fun and enjoy the game we should not worry about our money. What we have to try is how long we can keep our money will remain at our balance. The other thing is how fast we can hit our target at every sessions. Hence, to enjoy the game I prefer to bet at dice gambling site and try to hit the higher payout. Got longer red streaks at higher payout is very common and when we got the green one, thats fun! And when we got unexpected reds while playing at higher payout we have to stop our game for a while to start again in the next couple days.

We are there that every time we gamble we are having fun but our aim is changing base on the result as we gamble.

Let's say today you are saying that you are gambling for fun but luckily you are on a winning streak and you win 10 times straight in a row.

For sure your mindset will change and you will aim more for profit because you saw that its quite good enough to gamble and have some good profit.
9620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: December 01, 2016, 02:08:11 AM
There's always luck involved-sometimes less,sometimes more but luck always plays its role.What you can do is increase your chances of winning in cases of sports betting or poker for example where what you do actually matters whereas in dice or lottery all there is is luck and in these cases it defines the outcome.So I believe that luck is always involved in the game and you have to rely on that.

That is certainly true. But luck is not something that we can enjoy at any time. Because luck will only appear at certain times and maybe if luck came we just get a little victory of whopping and much (huge losses). In gambling do not expect better luck, because it just makes us wrong focus and ended up just getting a major defeat without getting what we dream of or desire

And we don't have assurance when luck will come to us. So, if you think that you are lucky for that day, then take the whole advantage of it.

Gamble all the way but when you think that luck is already gone and it is all giving you now a losing streak, then you are not lucky anymore.

Simple and easy to understand, I don't know why there are some many who are really addicted and doesn't stop when on a losing streak.
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