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9601  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 14, 2016, 02:51:35 PM
For those of us who don't have the capital, then we have to work hard, diligent saving, if already accumulated capital to open a business, then fix the system and start thinking about the future.

You should be more specific on what type of business you are going to make for starting. For me, it is better if you are running an exchange site.

Not to be pessimistic or anything, but making an exchange site is really hard to do. It's not just all about accumulating the needed funds. We all know that you can't have a capital enough to make an exchange site by just having a day job, unless you have a really decent job and spend as little money as possible.

Aside from accumulating funds, you also need to have connections. Programmers, developers, investors, beta testers, support staff, which all would cost a lot of money. It's a lot of work and would take years.

Ask yourself first if you really want to compete against all these established exchange site first before you do all this work.

It is not just an exchange site but what you are going to do is a company that operates an exchange site.

And all that you have are right, that's the risk of creating an exchange site, you need to hire people who are professionals.

But as soon as you get to make it stabilized, you can just sit around your office and will monitor on how your site is doing.

That's a good way to have steady income but that is needed to be funded by a lot of bucks before operating.
9602  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 14, 2016, 02:35:07 PM
After viewing your banner on this forum I registered on your site and found it much better for my use this is really a good exchange and if you continue your struggle for it and advertise it more then you will also get a place among top exchanges.

Those people who are struggling with yosh*t are going to fully migrate with bitsane in the future. And those who are sick for its support for complaining will be tired of using it.

Just more improvements and yes, advertisement.

Instead of spamming this thread because we are required to post here by our campaign manager. Maybe we should talk about the other ways on how to help promote Bitsane. If you have a Twitter account or Facebook maybe it might help to post there to help spread more awareness.
Good idea we should promote it on social media through our bitcoin related accounts.
Here I have tweeted about it https://twitter.com/CoinsWTF/status/808240743752069121

from my 1700 followers Twitter account Smiley

I suggest BitSane start a referral program too as an Incentive to users for inviting other to this great exchange

Yes, I think so. If you are just a small exchange then i think a 0% exchange fees promotion may sometimes not be enough to incentivise people using it. You also have to have contests and such, to encourage people.

Like zahra said, a referral commission on every BTC a person trades would be a great idea.

Maybe they are already planning it, let's just wait for that and for sure we are going to see their announcement about that immediately.
9603  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 13, 2016, 04:18:41 AM
For those of us who don't have the capital, then we have to work hard, diligent saving, if already accumulated capital to open a business, then fix the system and start thinking about the future.

You should be more specific on what type of business you are going to make for starting. For me, it is better if you are running an exchange site.

But just like what you have said you can just build it up when you have accumulated capital for opening a business.

Together you can also have if you have a decent job or office job.
9604  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 13, 2016, 04:07:53 AM
How to come that you are saying, that telling and warning the people about fact and scam investments as you promote is a type of misleading the people?

A scammer promoter will always a scam promoter and he will not admit about his true color of his promotion.

And wait, why should I ashamed to tell people that you are scamming people with your system? You should be.

I have only promote my own sites and I know better then who you want that I have never owned scam sites.

How can you say that I'm a scammer promoter?
Like I said:shame on you.
How can you say that I'm scamming people with my system...
So far my systems have only made profit for people.



Your trust feed back will tell everything about it and there's no need for explanation that you are truly promoting a scam system.

And you are fooling people that it is impossible to lose, so stop fooling around it is a disgrace that you are getting profit on the deposits of other people.

You keep on saying that your system made profit for people, stop encouraging people here with investing into scams. What a shame.

ok...this means that if you are red trusted you are a scammer?
How can i get profit from other investment if niw deposit are not possible and f all deposit have been cashbacked with profit...
really you are not honnest with yourself.
I offer at my members nowadays over 20000 satoshi daily...and they can not deposit...if you see scam in this you should consult a doctor...(lol)
Why do you red trust me not?
I know why...because you could just say:I red trust winspiral because he is redtrusted...(lol)
I hope you can good sleep...because you mislead people and you avoid them to earn little cash with fun.

Your wrong believing does not matter for me...but you are fun destroyer for other people who could learn about trading while earning.





Yes, you are a scammer if you have red trust because those DT members will not tagged that to you if you are not involve with a scam.

And it is seems that your site is a scam so they have tagged you a red trust, it tells everything about your system.

So you don't have to explain about it.
9605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: December 12, 2016, 07:35:01 AM
Bitcoin and gambling have a mutually beneficial relationship. Many new gambling sites popping up nowadays because of bitcoin and due to this fact I guess bitcoin will be used for a very long time. Bitcoin is easier to use, simple, anonymous and for sure better than fiat in conjunction with gambling activities.
But I have another idea in my mind about many new gambling sites pop up with bitcoin payment and that is people like to gamble using their bitcoin and everyone know that bitcoin gambling sites are earning a good income because of a huge traffic to them so everyone want to have their own bitcoin gambling site.

That is because everyone is seeing that bitcoin gambling industry is going to be vast increasing its popularity in the world of crypto.

And for those people who are sick of being taxed before they can cash out their profit from the usual gambling site.

They will prefer to choose and use the new trend of bitcoin gambling because of its cheaper fees and anonymity.
the main goal of them is high amount of bets they get in their gambling casino and that is achieved to them only with bitcoin platform so they will never leave that field and they are now on that platform forever so bitcoin payment is the future of gambling sites and they will not think about any other payment system as bitcoin is doing all for them which they need/want.

No doubt that online gambling casino's are aiming for higher profit and they can see the advantage of it with bitcoin.

So for sure they are going to upgrade and develop their gambling sites with bitcoin and for sure there are going to be a lot of it in the future.

Aside from its fees are cheaper, all of the gamblers are in favor of bitcoin.
9606  Local / Others (Pilipinas) / Re: Marami bang galit Kay LEILA DE LIMA ? on: December 12, 2016, 07:25:40 AM
Mas lalong madaming magagalit kay De Lima lalo na ngayon dahil sa  balita lang tungkol kay Leila De Lima, aalis na siya ng bansa natin at ipapalabas na aattend siya sa isang conference.

Pero ang nakikita ng marami dito ay political assylum na, tatakas na siya. Katulad ng ginawa ni Joma Sison.

Kaya balak siya harangin ng VACC.

Reference: http://viiiids.blogspot.com/2016/12/must-watch-de-lima-lilipad-na-travel.html
9607  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph Official Thread on: December 12, 2016, 07:09:30 AM
May problem ako about sa limit sa pag cashout, Hindi na ko makapag cashout kasi wala kong id verification tapos ayaw nila tanggapin ang student id ko, Ano po bang alternate id bukod sa student id.

Apply ka nalang ng NBI madali lang makakuha niyan one day process lang kung wala kang kapangalan.

Pwede din naman na kumuha ka nalang ng police clearance may ID din yun kaso gagastos ka nga lang di ko alam kung magkano na yun ngayon.

Pero one day process lang din yang police clearance at ID.
9608  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 12, 2016, 06:50:25 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.

Yes that's true, just like the saying that everything is needed to go to the bottom before you are going to reach the peak of your success.

Ups and downs are just normal especially in trading and because of that losing, you will learn something new about it.

That's why every time I lose money, I'm just telling to myself that there is a lesson learned.
9609  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do I grow my btc? on: December 12, 2016, 06:42:32 AM
By investment i think? or by do trading if you have a lot extra of bitcoin why don't you tried to trade or invest it to ico? Getting altcoin with bonus always caculate how much will be your profit and how much will you spend don't just deposite always read and review.

Yes trading is a good way to grow your bitcoins. I'm a bit scared to join some ICO's nowadays because there are a lot of ICO's that turned to be scam.

Since people already know the hype of HYIP's and cloud mining are scams, they are now making ICO's another way of scamming people.

But of course there are some who are legit that will give you good profit.
9610  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 12, 2016, 06:21:11 AM
How to come that you are saying, that telling and warning the people about fact and scam investments as you promote is a type of misleading the people?

A scammer promoter will always a scam promoter and he will not admit about his true color of his promotion.

And wait, why should I ashamed to tell people that you are scamming people with your system? You should be.

I have only promote my own sites and I know better then who you want that I have never owned scam sites.

How can you say that I'm a scammer promoter?
Like I said:shame on you.
How can you say that I'm scamming people with my system...
So far my systems have only made profit for people.



Your trust feed back will tell everything about it and there's no need for explanation that you are truly promoting a scam system.

And you are fooling people that it is impossible to lose, so stop fooling around it is a disgrace that you are getting profit on the deposits of other people.

You keep on saying that your system made profit for people, stop encouraging people here with investing into scams. What a shame.
9611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin the future of online gambling? on: December 11, 2016, 07:20:57 PM
Bitcoin and gambling have a mutually beneficial relationship. Many new gambling sites popping up nowadays because of bitcoin and due to this fact I guess bitcoin will be used for a very long time. Bitcoin is easier to use, simple, anonymous and for sure better than fiat in conjunction with gambling activities.
But I have another idea in my mind about many new gambling sites pop up with bitcoin payment and that is people like to gamble using their bitcoin and everyone know that bitcoin gambling sites are earning a good income because of a huge traffic to them so everyone want to have their own bitcoin gambling site.

That is because everyone is seeing that bitcoin gambling industry is going to be vast increasing its popularity in the world of crypto.

And for those people who are sick of being taxed before they can cash out their profit from the usual gambling site.

They will prefer to choose and use the new trend of bitcoin gambling because of its cheaper fees and anonymity.
9612  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: December 11, 2016, 07:08:47 PM
For investers and normal users of bitcoin the price of bitcoin does matter. Like I want the price to increase a lot so I can have much more profit. A daily user might also want the price to increase. On case of developers I think they would want adoption more than increase in price.

Of course to all of us bitcoins price does really matter. And if it is not because of the bitcoins price, we are not going to be encouraged for keep on trusting bitcoin.

That's why our belief with bitcoin is worth waiting for each price increase, we are having different amounts of profit.
9613  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where would you invest if you had 40$/day ? on: December 11, 2016, 07:01:05 PM
That is like a salary or daily rate of a supervisor here in my country or even in higher post. But if I have able to have that amount daily.

I will prefer to cash out some of it and I will always remain half for keep on holding in bitcoins. And with the cash out money.

I will invest into putting up a small business which is likely a small grocery store.
9614  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 11, 2016, 06:52:45 PM
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.

Shame of you...(lol)
yes it is impossible to lose and it is so...sorry.
If you take risk to earn more:
you can earn more or less but you can never lose...because it is impossible for a member to lose.
And my genious system is not a scam...
Have a nice day.

How funny you are calling your system not a scam, I'm having a bad day because of the people like you that don't want to stop your scamming tactics.

What's a shame about me? You must be the one that must be ashamed for you are scamming people boldly.

A shame because you persist missleading people about things you do not know about.
For me nothing is changing...my purpose is programming and managing my system.
So far I have never scammed people and you talk in a way people can believe I have.
I understand you fall in scammer tricks because you can not make the difference about honnest people and scammer,about serious econnomical system and ponzi shemes...
And in your "wrongness" (lol) you misslead people...and you do not feel ashamed?

How to come that you are saying, that telling and warning the people about fact and scam investments as you promote is a type of misleading the people?

A scammer promoter will always a scam promoter and he will not admit about his true color of his promotion.

And wait, why should I ashamed to tell people that you are scamming people with your system? You should be.
9615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How many BTC do you gamble with? on: December 09, 2016, 11:43:24 AM
I don't have certain amount when I gamble as long as I will just spend small amount of bitcoins which is acceptable to lose.

Then that's the usual way when I gamble, I always use to gamble with those amount maybe ranging 0.001 BTC - 0.005 BTC.

If I bet more than that, then I am angry enough to recover my losses.
9616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 09, 2016, 11:37:47 AM
Feeling of wanting to always gamble it appear as possible once you've won a lot of bitcoin on the gambling site. from where you will continue to gamble because it remembered the time get a lot of bitcoin. each of you losing it only took a few hours or days to come back again gamble

That is making the gamblers fool easily for letting them win for sometime but in the end they will just lose. And the feeling of winning is what the gamblers keep on coming back.

And it is making them addicted with gambling and it is the hardest part of the life of them because they can't get out of it easily.
9617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online Gambling vs Real Gambling on: December 09, 2016, 11:02:16 AM
First of all i would like to ask how is online gambling not real gambling? You are risking something, and that is gambling. If you are putting something up for risk and you know there is a disadvantage on your side, aka house edge, then it is gambling.

If you are talking about real life gambling, i think online gambling is so much better because of the chatbox. You can socialise with people online, people who you might not have met in real life before.

Real gambling is better for me, but they have their own advantages and that's true there are some people might choose to gamble with real gambling.

And also there are some gamblers who might love to gamble with real gambling. It is just going to be dependent to our different experiences.

But for me, they are just the same.
9618  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How can we encourage local businesses to accept BTC? on: December 09, 2016, 10:45:40 AM
Business wills adopt bitcoin on their own when they see an opportunity to make lots of money, currently this is not the case for most business for the lack of people using bitcoin but this is bound to change.

No they won't that's why we need to encourage them to use bitcoins especially to the businesses that is near to us.

And we can simply tell that bitcoin can boost their sales and another option for their customers to pay with the services or products that they wanted to buy.

That is for free if they will just simply adopt bitcoin
9619  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: December 09, 2016, 10:28:14 AM
I never bought something directly on Steam for a reason..
But when they started accepting BTC's that was changed.It wont affect the forum market.Since,people here sell for cheaper prices.
What is the reason? People was selling the games cheaper than steam has had some reason for that. Like buying the wrong games, maybe.

This is one of the reason why they are selling their games for a cheaper price. But how come those sellers have a lot of games.

Maybe they are also quitting those games so in return they are just selling it to have some return from the money they have spent for it.

Or else they are accredited partners for steam and they are able to buy steam games for cheaper price and they just re-sell it.
9620  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How do you know when a site tries to scam you? on: December 09, 2016, 10:20:10 AM
snip

Why do you persist in your error?
We can see that since over 1 year it is impossible to lose with winspiral's u2 system.
Explain me how it could be possible.

Every thing is for free and you can only "risk" a part of your earning.
The result is that so you can only earn.
if you do not understand this I can not help you...and i understand that you are the same kind of person than my red trusters who like you have not understood...
Fortunately my members have understood that it is impossible to lose but only earning.

Perhaps some members have not undertood as well...but they see it...(lol)

My members are not victims...if sharing daily over 20000 satoshi for free is be a victim...then my members are mazochists (lol)



And you have said that already, that we need to risk part of our earnings. And what makes you think that your system is impossible to lose if there is a required risk?

Just stop encouraging people to scam here in forum and to those people who are getting attracted to this winspiral u2 system.

Dump his site for he is not going to do good with your investments, this is just a total scam.

You are the one that doesn't understand what you are saying, if you think that I'm the same with those DT then that's simply I just can see that your site is really a scam.

What is your interest  missleading people?
In every trade game is a risk.
The risk with the U2 system is to earn less because it is impossible to lose.
If you can not understand the difference between earning less and earning more i can not help you.
if i say impossible to lose it is why it is so.
Among the 300 members or so...you can not find 1 loser.

You can say my u2 system is total scam...
But please let me say that you are wrong and you do not  help people here who are searching systems where you have fun and where you can never lose.

So, don't say that your scam investment has a feature that has impossible to lose that's what I'm pointing out because it came from you that there is a risk.

As a matter of fact, I'm helping people here who are searching out those scam sites and you are counted for having one.

And you are the one who are not helping people because you promote scam.

Shame of you...(lol)
yes it is impossible to lose and it is so...sorry.
If you take risk to earn more:
you can earn more or less but you can never lose...because it is impossible for a member to lose.
And my genious system is not a scam...
Have a nice day.

How funny you are calling your system not a scam, I'm having a bad day because of the people like you that don't want to stop your scamming tactics.

What's a shame about me? You must be the one that must be ashamed for you are scamming people boldly.
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