See, it really isn't difficult to see Man United losing or drawing to a team like Derby, as long as you have average quality and are willing to attack, you can cause them so much problems in defence. Why wasn't de Gea even on the bench we will not know. Why did he not bring in Sanchez yet? We don't know. Fellaini rescued them but Phil Jones lost it for them.


Rumors all of them. United have an old debt problem we already know this. And Abramovich selling Chelsea after getting Sarri? No way.

Doesn't matter dice, poker, sports, smart contract, whatever. Only way to trust a site really is history and reputation. It makes it very hard for newcomers, for sure, but the ones that succeed meet all the minimum standards for crypto gambling. Provably fair is min requirement, proof of funds is another. Active and helpful customer support.

If you like dice, try the usual suspects, those who've been around for years and never have a problem with payout. Yolodice, Bitvest, Bitdice, so many to say.

Mourinho just needs to grow up and realize that his tactics and man management are not working for the current players he has. He may have been able to boss around guys like John Terry Lampard in the past or even Zlatan, but these are strong characters who can be shaped and truly professional. Now you have Sanchez and Pogba, who are sort of divas. I mean the piano playing of Sanchez and Pogba just being a ridiculous kid sometimes.

It's not his fault Mou but he has to evolve.

Anyway who wants to bet on Derby winning or drawing? Draw or Derby win double chance x4 easy

Also one more difference, which I have seen, is that some trading platforms have no orderbooks at all. So you can buy and sell at whatever spot price they place, meaning, you can't put an order. You want to buy, you have to buy with fiat, sell, sell for fiat. So basically, it's just one big broker who will set the price, and earn from the spread. Exchanges and others earn from commissions, as they facilitate buying and selling between other users. Meaning to say they match up orders. You make a buy or sell order, someone takes it. Or you take an order someone else makes.

Every matched order gives a commission to the exchange.

Skills to choose the best ICOs? Trust me, there's no such thing. People got lucky in 2016 and 2017. They invested in almost anything and they made money. You would have made money investing in EOS which is vaporware and stupid. You would have lost money investing in a solid product in the bull run at the beginning of the year.

Also the decline of investors could be because people are choosing pools, where 1 investment is actually made out of hundreds. So they get presale bonus and bulk bonus.

I'm with you on this. Personally, I have my investment on 1 site at max leverage, but those are very small amounts compared to what I'm prepared to invest in long-term dividends on my main site. Of course, on paper, historical performance for past 1 year looks good, almost >15% for me over 1 year, but that's at full x10 leverage, so essentially, it showed that the site only made me 1.5%. It's still great returns but less than 4% if I just keep it at Freebitco.in. Both sites I equally trust (which is not even 100% trust).

Curious which site is offering 50x? I'd love to put in 0.001

OK thanks. I didn't bother signing up either. 3% is probably the highest margin I'm ever willing to take on any gambling, and that's only if the features are so great and the lines so special. 8-10%? Even lotteries don't take this much except if you're a state lottery.

Add that to KYC requirements and this site is a huge no-no but okay at least it's right at account creation, I'll give you that.

It's been quite a while since we heard about Wagerr development, and now I see they are branching out into stuff like masternodes and securing other type of casinos. Very hopeful in 2017 with all the betting blockchain platforms but I guess now we are seeing that the market was probably too small for too many competitors. End of the day we all stick to our dice and normal gambling without smart contracts. Did any of you sports betters ever tried this?

What a weekend for everyone. United frustrating, Chelsea frustrated. Liverpool make history. Burnley get first win.

I don't think many people predicted Chelsea to draw and even fewer predicted scoreless, which is for me excellent news because it boosts West Ham's chances and gives some confidence to Pellegrini.



The headlines something like players react to shock announcement from boss. And highlighted the quote of where he said something like maybe he has a week, or something like that. So I thought he announced resignation, but he was just out of context quoted. Google gives me stupid headlines.

No... I think the extra decimals means more difficult. Nobody makes four decimals and makes the jackpot hit on 77.7700. Every extra decimal means extra 10 multiplier. It is the difference between 1 in 10,000 and 1 in 1,000,000 for 2 extra decimals. So if you could hit on 1 in 10,000 the jackpot would probably be much smaller than the jackpot on the 1 in 1 million. If not, then show me the site with 2 decimals and I guarantee I will hit jackpot in a few days

This is strange to see this round 3 players didn't get any points. I thought the system made automatic picks for you if you forget, so they should have at least got correct scores for the expected winners like Manchester City? Or did they run out of picks or maybe forget to let the system pick for them?

Not that I'm complaining. Helps me move up the table to 19th

My only exact score was United Wolves 1-1, thank you Wolves! Seems I wasn't the only one to predict that draw, so I don't feel so special now. I have a feeling I can get many points on United draws now.

That would really help though. If you take a look at your dice competitors, then they have either the same advantage as you, if not much lower in terms of house edge but their big plus point is a transparent cold storage wallet that anyone can view as proof of funds. It's not so much that it proves you won't run of course, since any site can show that proof and still exit scam, but it means people have confidence you can have enough funds to pay out if ever someone wins something big.

Ask yourself this again after looking at all the facts and realizing that none of the price growths have ever been real. Everything is artificial, including this recent x2 growth (but to be fair, it was perhaps undervalued too quickly).

Banks are pro RIPPLE technology, not pro XRP token. Be aware of this and understand that their token can still be 0 cents and the tech would be just as great.

For this to be Ripple year, it has to be back at ATH and then some.

Thanks for the reminder! I was sure I got my picks in but I hadn't so all in now for the next 3 weeks.


Wasn't Zaha from United before? I didn't recognize him from his face and I looked him up and he recently complained about being alone in his time at Manchester and was even loaned out after Ferguson bought him. Didn't even realize until I read him up now that he's no longer an England player (how is it possible people switch nationalities like that??).

He reminds me a little bit about guys like Jermain Defoe. Always reliable to score, and always gets bought by teams like Crystal Palace. I thought Benteke would also be that type of striker but good luck to him. I have a small heart for those type of underrated goal scorers.

Hooray, another dice game. Will add this to my list to check out.

But as player above points out: The most important thing for anyone who is putting up a new casino here is this. Proof of funds. Bankrolls are important we all know that and with dice you can lose big but also win big. Once you hit a few big whales trying out their luck on a new site, they will eat up funds at the beginning. We need to know you can survive that!

We are offline betters but we use Telegram. Come on, why would anyone using Bitcoin with good odds and guaranteed payouts want to trust sending money to some guy who has all these claims but cannot prove anything ever? Not even a signed message with lots of fund on an address.

I'm really curious to know if anyone has ever successfully made placings with these guys on the forum, or why they would be looking online without all these proofs. If it was a problem of big money, I would still use other options like SyGambler mentions!

I arrived on the scene last year, and my first alt was Dogecoin (big surprise right) but then after learning more about the different uses and purposes, I was convinced enough to get Monero, of which I am probably the happiest among all my alts, plus also Litecoin, merely for the purpose of fast payments with existing network of merchants.

Did I go for other alts? Yes, I actually invested in two ICOs. Did I go crazy for others? No, but I did buy a handful just to spend a bit of my bitcoin, but BTC at the time as it is today still accounts for more than I guess 70%. I still really like Waves, and even though the Elastic I bought is never coming back up, my hopes for them remain.

Did I also try to get into other alts for speculation? Of course and I made some profits too, but now the ones I entered even Ether this year at $400 are down. Do I believe in them? Only for price. So will they die? Probably, because everyone came into them for profit.

But Monero, Litecoin, those types, they won't die.

Stupid headlines when I saw something in the news feed I thought Pocchetino was getting sacked haha, turns out he was just saying he could face being fired if they lose to Brighton. But if that really happens then we can confirm Tottenham have a really shit board of directors (we are only thinking it not yet confirming it).

Looks like everybody wants to parlay easy wins but I think one or two draws not necessarily upsets can kill a parlay. Too dangerous for me. Southampton might draw to Liverpool. City might stumble after Champions League. Chelsea might hit a blip. Spurs maybe cannot score.

I would choose Brighton +1 handicap.

The best way to deal with game-protect is just to take everything he says with a dash of salt and lots of herbs and spices. He just seems to troll all the threads, seems to talk about legality and especially licensing but actually doesn't really understand the finer points of jurisdictions, and how crypto casinos fit into all that.

@OP thanks for really being active on the discussions here. A lot of important stuff that needs clarification, and really good to see people like you respond, even when there is criticism.

Nice win if you parlayed, what was the payout? I don't think the Sevilla game would have big payout though.

Big difference in level is actually the tricky bit, especially when playing with teams that have no good attacks and who don't score often in normal league games, then you have them just playing passing and defending, very difficult to break down such teams, so you get shock draws.

Rangers nicked their goal to draw, so they got a really good point from their group. They are still average team but Gerrard seems to have made them capable of scoring. 2 goals at Spain is special.