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9621  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump says he will never quit US presidential race on: December 13, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
I hear a lot of people who say they are voting for Trump. A surprising number actually. They don't even care what the others have to say.

According to the opinion polls, somewhere between 40% and 45% of the voters intend to vote for Trump if the POTUS 2016 choice is between him and Hillary. That is a LOT of people. The important thing here is that Hillary has been losing support ever since she launched her campaign, while Trump has seen his support levels going up slowly, but consistently.

Really Hillary is a loser of a candidate. 

No matter how much lipstick you put on that pig....

Trump will get both Trump votes and anti-Hillary votes.

What more does one need?
9622  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Watchlist Gun Bans Begin: Obama Enlists Governors to Bypass Congress... on: December 13, 2015, 09:30:37 PM
The Watchlist Gun Bans Begin: Obama Enlists Governors to Bypass Congress...





Now governors are abusing executive orders to trample on the 2nd Amendment as well.

With strong resistance in Congress to gun control measures, Obama has taken to working outside his constitutional authority yet again.

But he, his pen and his phone, are not alone this time.

To bring teeth to his pending executive orders, President Obama is working to enlist the help of many of the state governors who he hopes will sign their own executive orders.

...

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Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy plans to sign the first executive order in the nation to ban the sales of guns to people on federal government watch lists.

“We intend to prevent, by executive order through my powers as governor, those on government watch lists from obtaining a permit to purchase a firearm in Connecticut,” the Democratic governor said in a news conference Thursday.


...


Read more at http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/by-executive-order-obama-enlists-governors-to-bypass-congress-on-no-fly-no-buy_12112015.


Smiley
Just tell me one thing.  Are there any "Barack Hussains" on that watch list? 

Because if there are, we need to take our nukes away from him.

Because he's on the watch list.
9623  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 13, 2015, 09:27:37 PM
Does any Muslim wish to compare FACTS about the Inquisition with FACTS about violent Islam?
Two months of Jihad, matches the toll in death of a hundred and forty years of the very worst of Christianity's oppressive eras.

Islam and Christianity are very similar. At least they used to be very similar until the 19th century. .....

Oh.  So they ARE NOT SIMILAR AT ALL....

Thanks.

In practice they are not similar. Compare Saudi Arabia or Iran with the United States.

Interesting. You know that's a refutation of Brian's assertion they "used to be very similar until the 19th century."

Similar vast gaps in the cultures have been noted historically.
9624  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 13, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Does any Muslim wish to compare FACTS about the Inquisition with FACTS about violent Islam?
Two months of Jihad, matches the toll in death of a hundred and forty years of the very worst of Christianity's oppressive eras.

Islam and Christianity are very similar. At least they used to be very similar until the 19th century. .....

Oh.  So they ARE NOT SIMILAR AT ALL....

Thanks.
9625  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 13, 2015, 06:21:30 PM
Non sense! Numbers doesn't add up! They would need to breed like rabbits.

Population of Mexico was around 1 million in 1600, out of which less than 1% was white. As time progressed, the white population increased (as a result of immigration from Europe and high birth rates), while that of the Indians declined. In 1800, the population was 5 million, and the percentage of whites had increased to 18% to 20%. Currently, it is around 10% out of a total population of 120 million.

I think your prior numbers are wacko.  Maybe you are counting "deaths attributable ..." but not "births attributable..." or some other statistical error.  Also you error in the direction of certainty.  There is none.

See this reference.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~rmccaa/mxpoprev/table2.htm

Table 2. Demographic Disaster in Mexico
1519-1595

Authoritative estimates of Total Population
and Implied Rates of Decrease

      population
(millions)   population
(millions)   percent decrease
Author   place   1519   1595   1519-1595
Rosenblat   "Mexico"   4.5   3.5   22
Aguirre-Beltrán      4.5   2.0   56
Zambardino      5-10   1.1-1.7   64-89
Mendizabal      8.2   2.4   71
Cook and Simpson      10.5   2.1-3.0   71-80
Cook and Borah      18-30   1.4   78-95
Sanders   Central Mexican
Symbiotic Region   2.6-3.1   0.4   85-87
Whitmore   Valley of Mexico   1.3-2.7   0.1-0.4   69-96
Gibson      1.5   0.2   87
Sanders      1.0-1.2   0.1   90
Kubler   128 towns   0.2   0.1   50
Sources:
Rosenblat, Población indígena, vol. 1, pp. 57-122.
Aguirre-Beltrán, Población negra, pp. 200-1, 212.
Zambardino, "Mexico’s Population," pp. 21-2.
Mendizábal, "Demografía," vol. 3, p. 320.
Cook and Simpson, Population, pp. 38, 43, 45.
Cook and Borah, Aboriginal Population, p. 88.
Cook and Borah, Indian Population, pp. 46-7 (as corrected).
Sanders, "Central Mexican Symbiotic Region," p. 120; "Ecological Adaptation," p. 194.
Whitmore, Disease, p. 154.
Gibson, Aztecs, pp. 137-138.
Kubler, "Population Movements," p. 621.
Note:
The nadir of the demographic disaster is usually placed in the seventeenth-century. I chose 1595 for an end-point, not because I think this to be the nadir of the native population, but to be able to interpolate, rather than extrapolate, comparable figures for the largest number of authors. Nevertheless, Sanders’ figure for the Valley of Mexico is extrapolated from 1568.
9626  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 13, 2015, 03:50:21 AM
The Crusades were a reaction to Muslim invasions and stopped more than 7 centuries ago!
The Inquisition is a Catholic version of Sharia.

So cut out those arguments! Basically you're condemning "Catholic modules" which are built-in in Islam.

Bah.

Let's look at the facts.  How many were killed in the Inquisition?

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_from_the_Inquisition

the Spanish Inquisition, assuredly the most vigorous and corrupt of the various inquisitorial bodies that existed in Europe, held 49,000 trials between 1560-1700 and executed between 3 and 5,000 people.

That's in a hundred and forty years.

How many are being killed in violent Jihad by Islamic Terrorists today?

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Jihad Report  November, 2015
 Jihad Attacks:    169
 Countries:    30
 Allah Akbars:    34
 Dead Bodies:    1455
 Critically Injured:1706

Does any Muslim wish to compare FACTS about the Inquisition with FACTS about violent Islam?
Two months of Jihad, matches the toll in death of a hundred and forty years of the very worst of Christianity's oppressive eras.

First of all, lets remove the generalisations here. The thoughts of individual people do not equate to the beliefs of entire religions and the problem  is You will get some bad apples from either religion, but its not a contest. If you are seeing it as a contest of "which religion is nicer" then you would be severely misguided.

Remember, it is not Christians or buddhism or catholic vs Muslims.
what we need is fight isis . Keep an open mind.

AH....NO.  The Jihad death count is not strictly ISIS, but includes all the various splinter groups of Muslims justifying terrorist violence one way or another.  It's not true today, and it was not true 1, 2, 5 or 10 years ago that "What we need to fight is ISIS."

These guys change the names of their little groups as often as you blink your eyes.  Anyway, don't lecture me about open minds and what we need to fight.  All I did was bring FACTS to the table.

More damn Muslim violence in two months than 140 years of Christian Inquisition.

And that does NOT COUNT the "legal deaths" such as the stonings of adulterers or the killings of apostates.

So where do you want to go with this argument?
9627  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Muhammad Ali: Boxing Champion hits back at Donald Trump over Muslim ban and Isis on: December 12, 2015, 08:42:16 PM
How come everyone who says Donald Trump said to ban Muslims leaves the word "temporary" out? He said a "temporary ban". We cannot even vet US citizens correctly. How will we get people from Syria vetted? We can't. It's TEMPORARY. Words have meanings, even the ones you leave out.

It's like when Trump said some illegals kill, some illegals rape and some are good people. All you ever saw after that was rape and kill. That's why it's not working. People see right through it.

We need a TEMPORARY ban until we can set up a proper system to vet these people. Saying this is racist or hate means you are intellectually bankrupt.

They do this because they are liars.   

And they do what liars do.  They lie.

Not only the amount of lying, but the low quality of it, is becoming very disturbing.

9628  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 12, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Probably the establishment guys want to make it a Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton battle... but since his ratings have plummeted (as per the latest opinion polls, only around 2% of the GOP primary voters said that they'll vote for him), they have shifted their attention to Rubio (who is polling slightly better, but still in single digits).

Yea, there is no strategy by which they can get Rubio into a position as a serious contender.  Except if say, Cruz and Trump unfortunately were to meet their demise.

I don't think the country's that far gone but continue to be surprised...
9629  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Billionaire Prince Demands Donald Trump Exit 2016 Race on: December 12, 2015, 08:36:32 PM


Just curious, is this Saudi Prince the person who secretly paid Obama's college and law school bills?
9630  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump says he will never quit US presidential race on: December 12, 2015, 06:39:28 PM
He seems like an honest person. American people should give him a chance. There are too many politicians in American politics.

Exactly. Trump is very honest, especially considering that a serial liar is on the other side (Hillary Clinton). Media has been attacking him since the day he launched his presidential campaign. Also, he is self-financing his campaign, unlike Billary who has taken grants from the Saudi and Qatari sheikhs to steamroll her campaign.

People that don't understand Trump are likely mostly people that don't understand business thinking methods.  That's all most of his ideas stem from.  He's not projecting ideas from a philosophical or feel good basis.  Just practical concepts that are actionable.


9631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: OLDEST KORAN ‘DESTABILISES’ ISLAMIC HISTORY, SCIENTISTS SAY IT PRE-DATES MOHAMED on: December 12, 2015, 06:37:41 PM
Grin So Muhammed pliagerized? How come I am not suprised. This same religion preaches hate, violence, statutory rape, Jihad etc.
Get your facts straight.Perhaps you are not following the thread properly and posting after reading the title Angry


My facts are right. I read this news on another website. If true, then it implies that "Gabriel" did not give Muhammed the 1st copy of the Quran as is widely believed by muslims. It means Muhanmed lied .
No your facts are not right.

He thought "a little voice in his head" was the angel Gabriel.
That's right. In reality he might have been having a epileptic seizure, or some other mystical experience brought on by natural causes, or he made it up? Belief in visions had a huge following in the era after Rome fell and before the renaissance.  

For example, from the 10th. century:  
And again I heard a voice from Heaven saying to me, 'Cry out therefore, and write thus!'
-Hildegard of Bingen



Hey, don't be so harsh on those ancient dullards.

After all, if we didn't have the Internet, books, TV, cable TV, satellite TV, movie theaters, Ipods, Ipads, Iphones, billboards LED, stuff coming at us from all directions all the time.......we'd probably be hearing voices and seeing visions too.....
9632  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 12, 2015, 06:34:35 PM
^^^^ Anything can happen with the GOP nomination, despite the strong numbers for Trump. There is a huge gap between the GOP establishment elites (such as John McCain and John Boner) and the rank and file republicans. There is a strong chance that the elites can group together and present a single candidate, to prevent Trump from winning the primaries.
Not a "strong chance," because it's now right out in the open that they are trying to do this.

Their last hope is Rubio...

I don't see Rubio as even a strong candidate.   Were he to wind up the Republican nominee, a lot of conservatives would stay home and not vote.  The election would go to the HillaryFascists.

Which was the plan all along, ¡Jeb! losing facing harpy clinton


Or "We can push this Jeb fucker around, just as easy as the Hllary bitch.  Let's run those two saps."

and then...

"Oh yeah?  The chumps won't fall for Jeb baby?  Try that Rubio clown on them, with his hack song about Cuban immigrant crap."
9633  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Billionaire Prince Demands Donald Trump Exit 2016 Race on: December 12, 2015, 06:32:42 PM



Donald Trump collects the best enemies – now including a Saudi billionaire prince who funds Islamist advocacy in American universities.


Reportedly the richest of many Saudi Princes, Alwaleed Bin Talal says Trump should quit the 2016 election as he’s “a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America.”....

Notable by what's NOT BEING SAID BY HIM.  That Hillary should quit the race because of her continual lying, her disgraceful performance in Bengazi, and her illegal use of a private email server for classified work.
he doesnt care because Hillary isnt out spreading hate on islam. nothing else matters to this guy. probably because this level of lying is more or less a normal thing for politicians nowadays.

You could be right.  One dimensional world view, like a fanatical anti-abortionist.

So we should support the opposite of his myopic world view.

Vote Trump!
9634  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: December 12, 2015, 06:14:08 PM
I think everyone should be allowed to open-carry shoulder-fired nukes.
But they are heavy.  I don't even like to carry a pistol.  I mean, think, dude.  For the same weight you could carry a six pack of beer.
9635  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Saudi Billionaire Prince Demands Donald Trump Exit 2016 Race on: December 12, 2015, 06:10:26 PM



Donald Trump collects the best enemies – now including a Saudi billionaire prince who funds Islamist advocacy in American universities.


Reportedly the richest of many Saudi Princes, Alwaleed Bin Talal says Trump should quit the 2016 election as he’s “a disgrace not only to the GOP but to all America.”....

Notable by what's NOT BEING SAID BY HIM.  That Hillary should quit the race because of her continual lying, her disgraceful performance in Bengazi, and her illegal use of a private email server for classified work.
9636  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Up Like Trump on: December 12, 2015, 06:04:21 PM
^^^^ Anything can happen with the GOP nomination, despite the strong numbers for Trump. There is a huge gap between the GOP establishment elites (such as John McCain and John Boner) and the rank and file republicans. There is a strong chance that the elites can group together and present a single candidate, to prevent Trump from winning the primaries.
Not a "strong chance," because it's now right out in the open that they are trying to do this.

Their last hope is Rubio...

I don't see Rubio as even a strong candidate.   Were he to wind up the Republican nominee, a lot of conservatives would stay home and not vote.  The election would go to the HillaryFascists.
9637  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: December 12, 2015, 06:01:56 PM
The Crusades were a reaction to Muslim invasions and stopped more than 7 centuries ago!
The Inquisition is a Catholic version of Sharia.

So cut out those arguments! Basically you're condemning "Catholic modules" which are built-in in Islam.

Bah.

Let's look at the facts.  How many were killed in the Inquisition?

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_people_died_from_the_Inquisition

the Spanish Inquisition, assuredly the most vigorous and corrupt of the various inquisitorial bodies that existed in Europe, held 49,000 trials between 1560-1700 and executed between 3 and 5,000 people.

That's in a hundred and forty years.

How many are being killed in violent Jihad by Islamic Terrorists today?

www.thereligionofpeace.com

Jihad Report  November, 2015
 Jihad Attacks:    169
 Countries:    30
 Allah Akbars:    34
 Dead Bodies:    1455
 Critically Injured:1706

Does any Muslim wish to compare FACTS about the Inquisition with FACTS about violent Islam?
Two months of Jihad, matches the toll in death of a hundred and forty years of the very worst of Christianity's oppressive eras.
9638  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: December 12, 2015, 05:55:47 PM



A question for muslims who study (their religion): When I hear on TV "islam is never about hurting innocent people" or something similar...

From the perspective of your prophet and your holy book, are non muslims innocent people?
















US Imam preaching theft, rape and murder in the US

US based Imam, Yasir Qadhi preaches openly that non muslims lives are forfeit and their property is legal for muslims to take in jihad, (and this would include women as sex slaves).


This KAFIR says the Imam is total bullshit.  So you have a curious case, of numerous KAFIRs such as I, being far closer to the True Islam (according to those who say it is love and peace) than Imams such as this asshole.
9639  Other / Politics & Society / Re: I’ve Changed. This Is War. Seal the Borders. Stop the Visas. on: December 12, 2015, 03:26:22 AM



A hardline shift from an immigration reformer.


I know this is not my usual position. But this is a war. Therefore I have come to believe there should be no immigration or visa waivers until the U.S. adopts a completely new system to stop radical Islamic terrorists from entering the country. A wartime lockdown. And a big change in my thinking.

ISIS and related Islamic terrorists are already here. More are coming. We must stop them.

Until FBI director James Comey gives us the green light, I say seal the borders.

Here’s what we must do: Completely reform the vetting process for immigrants and foreign visitors. Change the screening process. Come up with a new visa-application review process. Stop this nonsense of marriage-visa fraud. And in the meantime, seal the borders. I agree with Jessica Vaughn, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, who argued many of these points in excellent detail on the National Review website on Friday.

Again, why am I taking this hardline position? In the past, I have been an immigration reformer, not a restrictionist. But we are at war. That changes everything.

Let me emphasize that my support for wartime immigration restrictions is not based on religion. I think Donald Trump made a big mistake here. Instead, I agree with this Rupert Murdoch tweet: “Complete refugee pause to fix vetting makes sense.”

Fortunately, the Republican House voted to tighten restrictions on travel to the U.S. by citizens of 38 nations who presently enter our country without a visa. This covers 20 million visitors a year who are allowed to stay 90 days. And of course this system is abused, big time.

But I say seal the borders. People hoping to relocate to the U.S. from Syria, Iraq, and anywhere in the Middle East, and people coming here from France, England, Sweden, and wherever will be upset, at least for a while. There may be some unfairness to this. But I don’t care. Wars breed unfairness, just as they breed collateral damage.

We may set back tourism. We may anger Saudi princes whose kids are in American schools. But so be it. We need a wartime footing if we are going to protect the American homeland.

Of course, President Obama doesn’t get it. He never will. Already we should have led NATO into a declaration of war against ISIS. Already we should have pushed a resolution of war against ISIS through the UN Security Council. Already we should have convened meetings with our Mideast allies to formally declare war against ISIS. Already the U.S. Congress should have issued a formal declaration of war against ISIS.

The president had his last chance last Sunday night. And he didn’t do it. He is not a wartime commander in chief. In fact, he is not a commander in chief.

As I have written before, if the U.S. wants to destroy ISIS, it can destroy ISIS. We won’t end terrorism around the world. But we can destroy ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Prominent generals are telling us that. Prominent national security strategists are telling us that.

So let’s do it.

If there is to be a true wartime effort to destroy ISIS, our leaders must communicate a sense of urgency and energy. Define the clear goal: the destruction of ISIS. Speak to that goal constantly. Take steps at home and abroad to back up that goal. Lead the country. Rally the country.

Republican and Democratic commanders in chief have done this in the past. We must do it again.

I don’t believe a visa or immigration lockdown here in the U.S. will solve the Islamic terrorist threat. Many other steps must be taken. And I am not suggesting this in the name of religious profiling. Instead, I am hardening my position on immigration because we are at war and I fear we may be losing this war.

My shift in thinking comes from a deep desire to strengthen homeland security. Hopefully an immigration freeze will not be in place for very long. But for now I believe we must do it. (By the way, keeping America safe is a prerequisite for growth.)

And let me add, as I have in the past, if the U.S. has the will, the urgency, and the energy to destroy ISIS, then we will destroy ISIS.


http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/11/larry-kudlow-ive-changed-this-is-war-seal-the-borders-stop-the-visas/




Implementing this will require a lot of workers.

I suggest hiring illegal Mexicans and get started immediately.
9640  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Islamic State finance chief 'killed in air strikes' on: December 12, 2015, 01:58:38 AM
Hope Russia will send troops there and end that cause western politic sucks so they would bomb there for next 100 years and achieve nothing.

Stop day-dreaming. Russia will NEVER send its ground troops to Syria (perhaps with the exception of brief commando operations). And Russian air strikes are not the only option to destroy the ISIS. The Islamic State will crumble in a matter of weeks, if not days, if the inflow of Jihadis from Turkey is stopped completely.

It's first and primarily an internet war, and has to be fought in the social media and at various levels on the internet and messaging systems.
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