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How long do you think we have until the west begins falling into the abyss? it is sad that I will have to leave friends behind, and force a new lifestyle upon my family.
No one else is interested in saving themselves, and it's frustrasting me.
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That comment was intended to be bait tabnloz, and your response to it was typical of marxists, no offence was meant, peace   |
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I'm down with this, my kids do not have a bright future here.
Sorry adding bits as I move around, my kids have inherited their filipino citizenship as mum was one when they were born, my wife will need to re-acquire hers, since she has since become an Ozzie.
I will need to check this out so I am more certain.
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This is a fairly romantic view of the Australian character. True regarding modesty. And hile accurate in a general sense, it fails to mention the undercurrent of racism that has always been prevalent. At the moment you'll get a fair go (unless you're Muslim or Chinese).
White Australia has continuously treated the Aboriginal population disgracefully, from outright murder and enslavement, to not giving them the right to vote (or be classified as human), to continually underfunding development. Aboriginals has poorer access to health, education, employment etc and even now, funding has been cut to remote communities. One of the biggest controversies of the last month has been the racist booing (called an ape, told to go back to the zoo) of an Aboriginal football player who has a) mentioned the way Aboriginals see Australia and his hopes to unite all and b) performed an Aboriginal dance on the field.
With immigration post ww2 (outside of the horrendous White Australia Policy), each ethnic group that arrived was ridiculed and disliked until the next wave came; Greeks / Italians in the 60's, Vietnamese in the 70's, Lebanese in the 80's, Asians in the 90's, Muslims now.
At the moment the Australians have a far right government that continues this racism for political gain by attacking Muslims and those seeking legal asylum (those fleeing the very wars Western nations have instigated). It is the main issue (along with anti climate policy) that led to their election. And as the government continues its disastrous decline in the polls after severe mismanagement and endemic rorting and lying, they are playing the terrorism card to its fullest (cancelling of passports for suspicious activities, decided by the Minister and not due process). They further aim to tax lowest wage earners and avoid acting on the billions of dollars lost by not taxing big multinationals.
This idea you have of Aussies is completely false, and has been gradually fed to you by the cultural marxists and not cultivated by your own experience. You might even be an Aussie (I don't know) but this exact opinion of us has been gradually fed to you via mainstream conditioning, you probably have a popular opinion of what an American, Frenchman or a Jew is. Aborigines recieve benefits far surpassing anyone else on the continent, and for the most part they have resisted the temptation to become lazy, entitled children. They voluntarily choose to maintain their primitive culture, and I admire them for that. Adam Goodes is one who has taken the marxist bait, and plays the race card at every opportunity despite him being a dirty player (grabbing other men by the testicles) The other 70 or so aborigine players have resisted the bait and they have no problems, why no mention of them? |
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In other words I am trapped in the NWO system here.
Where—? Great Empire‽ Yes |
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TPTB and trollercoaster
I do NOT know the rules re Peru or any of the others. But, I can offer advice on practicality of living in LatAm:
First, it is important to be able to speak Spanish! You would be very isolated without it.
Second, anyone interested in a country should visit it for a minimum of EIGHT WEEKS! Eat the food. Meet the lawyers. Etc.
I would *think* that you should either HAVE money (say $50,000 or more in CA$H, etc.) OR have a really good skill-set that they would need.
Let me know (PM or email) if either of you plan a trip to Peru, and we can arrange to have you picked up at the airport.
I will likely be able to scrape up 50K worth of cash, and I do have valuable mechanical and electrical knowledge which I am able to use to start my own business with minimal investment, I can only see this as being a step forward already. To start such a business in OZ is unprofitable due to the heavy handed fisting I would recieve from the Tax man, and constantly rising living expenses (tied to taxation) making it a constant struggle to get ahead here. In other words I am trapped in the NWO system here. |
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I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west.
Residency is not the same as citizenship. Australia still controls you to some extent while you have only 1 passport. I suppose residency could give you some ability to resist for example if Australia canceled your passport, depending where that residency was, e.g. Brazil or Chile might protect you more than Philippines. Or did you mean 2nd citizenship? Please see my post in the MA thread about difference in cultures. I am trying to figure this out for my own goals as well. I mean secondary citizenship, but there doesn't appear to be any streamlined way to acquire it unless you're a millionaire. South America seems to be the easiest, but I expect it will take a while even after fulfilling the financial requirements. It is easy for me to find work wherever I go, perhaps a South American chicken hut is what I will have to aim for by 2016. I am looking at Uruguay, there seems to be less fucking around with translated documents?? |
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Thanks TPTB, I am going to start selling off my bulky assets here, which are costly to store and move, and decide from there whether it's more efficient for us to relocate temporarily to the Philippines or to plan my next move from here. I think a secondary residency is now my highest priority, they may start making it harder to get if they begin to detect a mass exodus from the west. If you are considering medical treatment in OZ a medical treatment visa for you and your partner would probably be alot easier to secure than a tourist visa, and no need to lodge a bond. https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/602- |
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I have refrained from real estate because of the noosebleed prices here, so I am not bogged down in one place.
I think I will begin looking into small coastal villages far away from any of the major cities, and a secondary citizenship.
Queensland is the biggest police state of all here, so I will probably head more towards South West/gulf area of OZ.
You mentioned upthread about filipinos being eligible for certain S.A citizenships?
They have recently changed the rules for tourist visas here, but increased the bond requirement for "high risk" tourists, my wife would know more about this & i'll ask her
Every cent I have been forced to put towards my retirement is likely going to evaporate, it took a huge hit in 07 and I cannot access it to prevent it's theft ( the government secured our super for themselves to rape and steal )
So I am serious about making the most out of this collapse as I possibly can.
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Yeah all of this I agree with, it was only a consideration to escape the western style totalitarianism, but that appears to be spreading there too.
Rural Australian areas have mostly escaped this for now, but Fabian style socialism has hijacked all sides of politics here, so a full fledged land grab by the state is a very real possibility in a crisis situation.
I need to think about this more carefully, because I do not want to stay here (in the city) or be stuck in a socialist, agenda 21 version of hell (herded out of a rural area like the chinese farmers)
I will look into South America, but staying here is not an option.
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I did consider the Philippines because I qualify for Balikbayan status, I would never have imagined the place turning into a police state (I was last there 6 years ago)
But I suppose these things can change rapidly.
I have no problem looking after myself, my only concern is the safety of my young kids, who become targets of kidnappings in turd world countries.
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I am considering Tasmania or New Zealand, both places do get bitterly cold in winter though & I couldn't find any data from these areas for the previous mini ice age.
How low do you think real estate value will plummet from the current prices?
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It may deter him from including bitcoin if there's talk of the reports being shared around, I would like to get in at the bottom if we are going to see a massive dump |
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I created this account only for discussion in these threads, I don't intend to make it easy for anyone to track me, but I do take steps to hide my identity on here.
I think the three letter agencies will find me any way if it was truly in their interest, but there will always be bigger fish for them to harass.
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I will email him today, I would definately purchase the report if it included cryptos.
I think bitcoin will follow gold, it looks like private investors haven't lost hope in gold yet, many are still stacking & another crash may trigger them to sell, and then I think buttcoin will follow when the smaller holders lose hope.
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