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981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 12, 2017, 07:45:40 PM

Let's look at this a slightly different way. The ionomy team put a lot of emphasis on being professional, 'nice people', operating in a reliable, honest way. What I can't really grasp is why, given this, they seem content to leave a giant hole in their information sharing practices that will put most serious investors off.

At the very least there should be some sort of way of locking whale assets when information is given to them exclusively to act as a control against manipulation. By implementing something like this they could demonstrate that they are serious about their claims to be an honest operator in a largely dishonest environment.

if I am reading this correctly, YOU WAN TO FREEZE my account when I perform Alpha or Beta Testing on an Ionomy product? to demonstrate that I am an honest operator!!!

and this applying to all the other Atom Owners when they are involved in testing Ionomy products?Huh

Exactly. Why not? If your truly only in it out of the goodness of your own heart, offering your services for 'free' as you so kindly pointed out, surely you'd be happy to put your money where your mouth is if you believe in the project.

@altheshort Offering my service  does not include my current invest funds.. I let my services as chatting with the Trolls demonstrate that I am an honest operator...

This kind of looks like a BCT Troll plan to discourage users being involved with "testing phase of all the Ionomy product"by locking their Ionomy account...

YOU are an honest operator

I'm still rolling with laughther that you want to disable user accounts base on their interest to "test"..  Roll Eyes

You're missing the point, though it's probably deliberate. The point is that there should be some control in place to prevent those who get information before the public from acting on that information. How that would look in practice -- whether that would mean holding coins or assests in escrow until a public announcement is made, or an alpha program is complete -- doesn't really matter. It's the reduction in risk that such a system would bring in principle that I believe would be of benefit.

Do you think that would be a negative thing? If you do, perhaps you might explain why, rather than being flippant.

I don't see a problem with giving the testers access to their Ionomy account. The Ionomy account with ION & Electrons are  needed to play the games. The game testing group remains in a separate private room hidden to the public..

I'm in favor of having a larger amount of testers for each Ionomy product...

What Ionomy resource were you planning on withholding so the investor can be "honest"? turning off the right to use the Atom auction?
982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 12, 2017, 06:41:32 PM

Let's look at this a slightly different way. The ionomy team put a lot of emphasis on being professional, 'nice people', operating in a reliable, honest way. What I can't really grasp is why, given this, they seem content to leave a giant hole in their information sharing practices that will put most serious investors off.

At the very least there should be some sort of way of locking whale assets when information is given to them exclusively to act as a control against manipulation. By implementing something like this they could demonstrate that they are serious about their claims to be an honest operator in a largely dishonest environment.

if I am reading this correctly, YOU WAN TO FREEZE my account when I perform Alpha or Beta Testing on an Ionomy product? to demonstrate that I am an honest operator!!!

and this applying to all the other Atom Owners when they are involved in testing Ionomy products?Huh

Exactly. Why not? If your truly only in it out of the goodness of your own heart, offering your services for 'free' as you so kindly pointed out, surely you'd be happy to put your money where your mouth is if you believe in the project.

@altheshort Offering my service  does not include my current invest funds.. I let my services as chatting with the Trolls demonstrate that I am an honest operator...

This kind of looks like a BCT Troll plan to discourage users being involved with "testing phase of all the Ionomy product"by locking their Ionomy account...

YOU are an honest operator

I'm still rolling with laughther that you want to disable user accounts base on their interest to "test"..  Roll Eyes
983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 12, 2017, 05:11:04 PM

Let's look at this a slightly different way. The ionomy team put a lot of emphasis on being professional, 'nice people', operating in a reliable, honest way. What I can't really grasp is why, given this, they seem content to leave a giant hole in their information sharing practices that will put most serious investors off.

At the very least there should be some sort of way of locking whale assets when information is given to them exclusively to act as a control against manipulation. By implementing something like this they could demonstrate that they are serious about their claims to be an honest operator in a largely dishonest environment.

if I am reading this correctly, YOU WAN TO FREEZE my account when I perform Alpha or Beta Testing on an Ionomy product? to demonstrate that I am an honest operator!!!

and this applying to all the other Atom Owners when they are involved in testing Ionomy products?Huh

Exactly. Why not? If your truly only in it out of the goodness of your own heart, offering your services for 'free' as you so kindly pointed out, surely you'd be happy to put your money where your mouth is if you believe in the project.

@altheshort Offering my service  does not include my current invest funds.. I let my services as chatting with the Trolls demonstrate that I am an honest operator...

This kind of looks like a BCT Troll plan to discourage users being involved with "testing phase of all the Ionomy product"by locking their Ionomy account...
984  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 12, 2017, 04:58:43 PM

Let's look at this a slightly different way. The ionomy team put a lot of emphasis on being professional, 'nice people', operating in a reliable, honest way. What I can't really grasp is why, given this, they seem content to leave a giant hole in their information sharing practices that will put most serious investors off.

At the very least there should be some sort of way of locking whale assets when information is given to them exclusively to act as a control against manipulation. By implementing something like this they could demonstrate that they are serious about their claims to be an honest operator in a largely dishonest environment.

if I am reading this correctly, YOU WAN TO FREEZE my account when I perform Alpha or Beta Testing on an Ionomy product? to demonstrate that I am an honest operator!!!

and this applying to all the other Atom Owners when they are involved in testing Ionomy products?Huh

Founder & Members (Atom Owners) get the info prior than the public??
985  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 11, 2017, 07:58:43 PM
so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?

Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself Grin

well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both.

you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it?

so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct?

Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it.

And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but

A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say

B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid

by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag.

this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort

I agree. To me it doesn't matter if it is legally defined (as yet) as potential insider trading, which is what Sharky appears to be hung up on. In essence, regardless of it's legal definition, the set up whereby they discuss advance information (about matters as significant as delays to products, as they did with Gravity) with a select group who are also the largest holders of the tokens leaves open the possibility that one of the whales may, at some point, choose to act on said information for their own financial gain and to the detriment of smaller holders. It's foolish, and the fact that the team are apparently ok with sharing information in this manner with no formal controls in place shows their naivety, in my opinion. This is crypto; it's largely unregulated. It's idiotic and shortsighted to just trust that the whales won't act out of self preservation because they said they wouldn't.  
@altheshort I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product.

Thes Whale & Founder services are provided to the Ionomy Team for free!!


Whale and Founder services are free? LIE!


None of the Whales or Founders get paid. They contribute their service for free. Having your input into the platform heard and used benefits the Ionomy products..

Look, this discussion will go around in circles because none of the whales will directly address the inherently dodgy looking nature of their relationship with the team, and most people who are fully in possession of the facts about that same arrangement likely won't invest. The discussion isn't about whether you get paid, frankly I wouldn't give a shit even if they're paying you in nuggets of golden turd shat out of a goats arse, particularly since you apparently gave them advice about 'Crypto Gravity', which has a grand total of 19 players so far this week. You know exactly why it looks dodgy and has the potential to be dodgy, you're just trying to weasel out of confronting it.

Anyway, I've said my piece.

TLDR; Whales (group of most invested individuals) get exclusive access to information direct from the team in charge before lesser investors and general public, leaving 'ion' open to manipulation in a scenario with similarities to insider trading.

for this to be Insider Trading, the information needs to be related to the security that is being traded. Ionomy stock is not open to the public. Atoms are not a security, just a token that produces Electrons...

Oh, sharky. Firstly, if you read what I wrote carefully you'll notice I said 'with similarities to'. I said that because I'm fully aware that the SEC hasn't assessed atoms (to my knowledge -- perhaps you can correct me if I'm wrong) and adjudged them to be or not be a security, so I cannot say with good conscience that it is, as defined legally, insider trading. But that does not proclude the fact that the way the information you exclusively get could be used might, hypothetically, lead to you gaining benefit similar (there's that word again) to that of an inside trader.

Regardless of its (current) legal standing, I, along with presumably many others since there hasn't been an explosion in investment in the Ionomy, believe it to be a risky and foolish arrangement.

another legal point is Atoms are not being traded.. they are auctioned... The Whales or Founders have no impact in the transaction and I don't recall any discussion on Atoms when in the private rooms on slack..
986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 11, 2017, 07:12:43 PM
so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?

Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself Grin

well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both.

you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it?

so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct?

Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it.

And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but

A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say

B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid

by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag.

this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort

I agree. To me it doesn't matter if it is legally defined (as yet) as potential insider trading, which is what Sharky appears to be hung up on. In essence, regardless of it's legal definition, the set up whereby they discuss advance information (about matters as significant as delays to products, as they did with Gravity) with a select group who are also the largest holders of the tokens leaves open the possibility that one of the whales may, at some point, choose to act on said information for their own financial gain and to the detriment of smaller holders. It's foolish, and the fact that the team are apparently ok with sharing information in this manner with no formal controls in place shows their naivety, in my opinion. This is crypto; it's largely unregulated. It's idiotic and shortsighted to just trust that the whales won't act out of self preservation because they said they wouldn't.  
@altheshort I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product.

Thes Whale & Founder services are provided to the Ionomy Team for free!!


Whale and Founder services are free? LIE!


None of the Whales or Founders get paid. They contribute their service for free. Having your input into the platform heard and used benefits the Ionomy products..

Look, this discussion will go around in circles because none of the whales will directly address the inherently dodgy looking nature of their relationship with the team, and most people who are fully in possession of the facts about that same arrangement likely won't invest. The discussion isn't about whether you get paid, frankly I wouldn't give a shit even if they're paying you in nuggets of golden turd shat out of a goats arse, particularly since you apparently gave them advice about 'Crypto Gravity', which has a grand total of 19 players so far this week. You know exactly why it looks dodgy and has the potential to be dodgy, you're just trying to weasel out of confronting it.

Anyway, I've said my piece.

TLDR; Whales (group of most invested individuals) get exclusive access to information direct from the team in charge before lesser investors and general public, leaving 'ion' open to manipulation in a scenario with similarities to insider trading.

for this to be Insider Trading, the information needs to be related to the security that is being traded. Ionomy stock is not open to the public. Atoms are not a security: just a asset that produces Electrons daily...
987  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 11, 2017, 06:19:46 PM
so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?

Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself Grin

well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both.

you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it?

so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct?

Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it.

And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but

A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say

B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid

by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag.

this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort

I agree. To me it doesn't matter if it is legally defined (as yet) as potential insider trading, which is what Sharky appears to be hung up on. In essence, regardless of it's legal definition, the set up whereby they discuss advance information (about matters as significant as delays to products, as they did with Gravity) with a select group who are also the largest holders of the tokens leaves open the possibility that one of the whales may, at some point, choose to act on said information for their own financial gain and to the detriment of smaller holders. It's foolish, and the fact that the team are apparently ok with sharing information in this manner with no formal controls in place shows their naivety, in my opinion. This is crypto; it's largely unregulated. It's idiotic and shortsighted to just trust that the whales won't act out of self preservation because they said they wouldn't.  
@altheshort I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product.

Thes Whale & Founder services are provided to the Ionomy Team for free!!


Whale and Founder services are free? LIE!


None of the Whales or Founders get paid. They contribute their service for free. Having your input into the platform heard and used benefits the Ionomy products..
988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 11, 2017, 05:20:33 PM
so korvas is telling lies then and whales do get information the public doesnt get about the ionomy vision?

Me telling lies is something you need to decide for yourself Grin

well one of you is telling lies. wildshark says whales get inside info you say whales dont. cant be both.

you shouldnt be telling lies because you acuse others of doing it and that would be hypocritical wouldnt it?

so from that i infer that you are incluned to agree wildshark is a liar? is this correct?

Korvas continually contradicts himself. Here's just one example from only a few days ago where he talks about getting information early. His post history has many others, but to be honest I can't be bothered to trawl through it.

And yes I do have a superior knowledge of the situation but

A) If it's not announced by IONOMY it's not for me to say

B) Sharing information if it's not already known to slack users would for various reasons be just plain stupid

by that quote korvas admits ge has info slack doesnt which would be from whale status. there is potential insider trading happening. another red flag.

this is a lie from korvas which means without justification he has no right to acuse others of lies and try to take the moral high ground. thanks altheshort

I agree. To me it doesn't matter if it is legally defined (as yet) as potential insider trading, which is what Sharky appears to be hung up on. In essence, regardless of it's legal definition
@altheshort I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product.

Thes Whale & Founder services are provided to the Ionomy Team for free!!
989  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 10, 2017, 08:32:44 PM
@korvas
if you only get what everyone else gets can you explain why wildshark as a whale says hes privy to info that ionomy hasnt told non whales yet.

@o0o0 I have access to info prior to the public because I am a Whale and entitled to Alpha test the Ionomy products prior to release... All Founders have access to the info when they Beta testing the Ionomy product.

During the testing phase, security remains high..
990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 09, 2017, 08:20:54 PM
9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!

If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it.

As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it  Grin

Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents

How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto.

No I didn't say that, your just putting words in my mouth. I just said I knew more than you.

Insider information would be knowing more than another whale which is not the case.

Anyone can be a whale you just need to own 5,000 ATOMS which is going to cost you around $12k if your lucky.  

So you are telling me that people that own zero Atoms know just as much as the whales do? If this is the case, what's the point of being a whale?

he just said that you can pay for insider information, and he has rationalised to himself that as long as he doesn't know more then the rest of the whales then its not insider trading, unfortunately in real life it doesn't work like that

How about you qualify that last comment with explaining how real life works  Smiley

 

anyone cannot do it as was stated there is a limited atom amount. those that are whales have information not known to the public and can use this to stock up or sell prior to general public finding out or not.

wikipedia insider trading or dictionary it.

state why you are possibly insider trading or could insider trade to counter this. trust me im not isnt valid. this isnt a vip game program where you get news of a new unit ahead of time. crypto has a convertable value and its a digital currency.

your turn to explain why there is no possible insider trading korvas. the info on why it is has been provided many times and its a simple concept. please counter it or agree it is.

I'm not an inside trader I'm just a customer that owns an asset (ATOMS).

Owning more than 5000 of these apart from the benefits of electrons you also get the privilege of providing input to any questions IONOMY might have with respect to their business or direction. Also you get to test new stuff like Gravity or masternode hosting.

The questions Ionomy ask just give you an insight......... To them though the BIG benefit is they get real feedback as both parties want the same thing it's a symbiotic relationship of customer/supplier.... no hidden agendas which in this game is priceless.



So getting the advantage of seeing and testing the games before anyone else isn't inside information? Especially when trades can be made based on the perceived success of the game. If your coins were frozen while you tested the game, that would be fair to the others. But since you have early access to the games you can make market sales and buys decisions that others without the said information can't make.

Again, how is this not insider information?

Insider trading is the buying or selling of a security by someone who has access to material nonpublic information about the security. ...

Where is your "security" that is being bought or sold?

Iomony's company stock is not available to the public for trading

Insider trading is profiting off of information you receive in advance that other people don't get. If you make a trade and profit from said inside information is insider trading. It doesn't just have to be stock or security based.

The Insider Trading is based off the security being bought/sold. The addition data needs to be info on that resource..

neither IONs, Atoms or Electrons are securities

ION Talk is not available for me to find the US law that was used to define a security... This was hashed on ION Talk in the Bitcoin ION FAQ thread

 The attitude of this project is a shit stain for the crypto world.

I see the price of ION holding and the Ionomy Vision spreading...
991  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 09, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!

If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it.

As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it  Grin

Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents

How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto.

No I didn't say that, your just putting words in my mouth. I just said I knew more than you.

Insider information would be knowing more than another whale which is not the case.

Anyone can be a whale you just need to own 5,000 ATOMS which is going to cost you around $12k if your lucky.  

So you are telling me that people that own zero Atoms know just as much as the whales do? If this is the case, what's the point of being a whale?

he just said that you can pay for insider information, and he has rationalised to himself that as long as he doesn't know more then the rest of the whales then its not insider trading, unfortunately in real life it doesn't work like that

How about you qualify that last comment with explaining how real life works  Smiley

 

anyone cannot do it as was stated there is a limited atom amount. those that are whales have information not known to the public and can use this to stock up or sell prior to general public finding out or not.

wikipedia insider trading or dictionary it.

state why you are possibly insider trading or could insider trade to counter this. trust me im not isnt valid. this isnt a vip game program where you get news of a new unit ahead of time. crypto has a convertable value and its a digital currency.

your turn to explain why there is no possible insider trading korvas. the info on why it is has been provided many times and its a simple concept. please counter it or agree it is.

I'm not an inside trader I'm just a customer that owns an asset (ATOMS).

Owning more than 5000 of these apart from the benefits of electrons you also get the privilege of providing input to any questions IONOMY might have with respect to their business or direction. Also you get to test new stuff like Gravity or masternode hosting.

The questions Ionomy ask just give you an insight......... To them though the BIG benefit is they get real feedback as both parties want the same thing it's a symbiotic relationship of customer/supplier.... no hidden agendas which in this game is priceless.



So getting the advantage of seeing and testing the games before anyone else isn't inside information? Especially when trades can be made based on the perceived success of the game. If your coins were frozen while you tested the game, that would be fair to the others. But since you have early access to the games you can make market sales and buys decisions that others without the said information can't make.

Again, how is this not insider information?

Insider trading is the buying or selling of a security by someone who has access to material nonpublic information about the security. ...

Where is your "security" that is being bought or sold?

Iomony's company stock is not available to the public for trading

Insider trading is profiting off of information you receive in advance that other people don't get. If you make a trade and profit from said inside information is insider trading. It doesn't just have to be stock or security based.

The Insider Trading is based off the security being bought/sold. The addition data needs to be info on that resource..

neither IONs, Atoms or Electrons are securities

ION Talk is not available for me to find the US law that was used to define a security... This was hashed on ION Talk in the Bitcoin ION FAQ thread
992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 09, 2017, 01:34:55 PM
9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!

If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it.

As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it  Grin

Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents

How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto.

No I didn't say that, your just putting words in my mouth. I just said I knew more than you.

Insider information would be knowing more than another whale which is not the case.

Anyone can be a whale you just need to own 5,000 ATOMS which is going to cost you around $12k if your lucky.  

So you are telling me that people that own zero Atoms know just as much as the whales do? If this is the case, what's the point of being a whale?

he just said that you can pay for insider information, and he has rationalised to himself that as long as he doesn't know more then the rest of the whales then its not insider trading, unfortunately in real life it doesn't work like that

How about you qualify that last comment with explaining how real life works  Smiley

 

anyone cannot do it as was stated there is a limited atom amount. those that are whales have information not known to the public and can use this to stock up or sell prior to general public finding out or not.

wikipedia insider trading or dictionary it.

state why you are possibly insider trading or could insider trade to counter this. trust me im not isnt valid. this isnt a vip game program where you get news of a new unit ahead of time. crypto has a convertable value and its a digital currency.

your turn to explain why there is no possible insider trading korvas. the info on why it is has been provided many times and its a simple concept. please counter it or agree it is.

I'm not an inside trader I'm just a customer that owns an asset (ATOMS).

Owning more than 5000 of these apart from the benefits of electrons you also get the privilege of providing input to any questions IONOMY might have with respect to their business or direction. Also you get to test new stuff like Gravity or masternode hosting.

The questions Ionomy ask just give you an insight......... To them though the BIG benefit is they get real feedback as both parties want the same thing it's a symbiotic relationship of customer/supplier.... no hidden agendas which in this game is priceless.



So getting the advantage of seeing and testing the games before anyone else isn't inside information? Especially when trades can be made based on the perceived success of the game. If your coins were frozen while you tested the game, that would be fair to the others. But since you have early access to the games you can make market sales and buys decisions that others without the said information can't make.

Again, how is this not insider information?

Insider trading is the buying or selling of a security by someone who has access to material nonpublic information about the security. ...

Where is your "security" that is being bought or sold?

Iomony's company stock is not available to the public for trading
993  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 08, 2017, 07:49:24 PM
9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!

If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it.

As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it  Grin

Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents

How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto.

@CryptoBuds As usual you missed the information expressed to you. I say his thought was" being involved from day 1"

I was on the project that day and remember setting up my first Shark Node with 20 other MNs... The number of block rewards I received that day was "to the moon"!!!!


@WildShill, as usual, a giant shill for ION.

I am hooked as an ION Masternode Owner.. along with the other owners of the 340 MNs!!!
994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 08, 2017, 06:08:03 PM
9 months to make a game (projected 1 month initially) and 3 weeks for it to fizzle out. I thought this was a gaming based crypto currency? Are the investors not at all worried about this? Seems they just care about profits any way possible. Who cares about the white paper, I can make my XPY loses whole again!

If you knew what was going on then you would understand.... such opportunity.... you need to be selective in how you deploy resources otherwise you just squander it.

As someone who has been involved since day 1 I'm loving it  Grin

Any predictions on when ION will hit 50 cents

How can I make a prediction? I'm not a whale and privy to all the inside information that you are. You basically just admitted that the only way to be on top in this coin is to be a whale. Such crypto.

@CryptoBuds As usual you missed the information expressed to you. I say his thought was" being involved from day 1"

I was on the project that day and remember setting up my first Shark Node with 20 other MNs... The number of block rewards I received that day was "to the moon"!!!!

I am hooked as a Masternode Owner.. along with the other owners of the 340 MNs!!!
995  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 07, 2017, 09:34:53 PM
amateurism

There would nothing wrong with it if they recognized that fact and acted accordingly instead of trying to make it sound like they can develop the full stack better than anybody else.

If they have a brilliant idea (doubtful, but let's give them the benefit of said doubt for a few seconds) but suck at execution (the part that they must be able to see after years of failures) surely they could find someone capable of doing it in a less sucky way. Like they hired that kid to clone the coin, but in a more managed and organized way. It's really bizarre that 300 BTC - their claimed ICO amount - was not enough to even show the viability of the idea. Well, to show it to anyone other than whales, who believe anything the "team" tells them.

Although it's more likely that the big "idea" is a turd and there is a good reason why nobody else tried to polish it.

It's just that for some inexplicable reason they choose to release them once a year.


@suchmoon Maybe the schedule has changed and you didn't get the memo... I like your suggestion that a in-depth Ionomy game should be released yearly...

I'm not suggesting anything, Sharkie, nor am I subscribed to your whale memos. But if Gravity took a year then an "in-depth" game will take a decade and will still suck bigly.

As the Ionomy Vision grows, additional programing resources will come aboard and speed up the production of the games...
996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 07, 2017, 05:54:19 PM
It's just that for some inexplicable reason they choose to release them once a year.


@suchmoon Maybe the schedule has changed and you didn't get the memo... I like your suggestion that a in-depth Ionomy game should be released yearly...
997  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 06, 2017, 07:33:19 PM
What is an ION?

ION is a Digital CryptoCurrency Bent on WORLD DOMINATION (in the game Gravity). But overall it allows you to offer goods and service to others and have them pay you with ion. Think of it as another type of Dollar bill in your wallet. Just your Wallet is digital and on your computer. The best part of ion is the fact that the more you keep in your wallet the more your wallet will generate. So gather them while you can. And lets take over the world!

So, what is the plan for Ionomy to achieve world domination? (Tough to type without laughing)

Spread the Ionomy Vision to others.. the power of the ION grows daily..

Join the Ionomy today!!!
998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 06, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
What is an ION?

ION is a Digital CryptoCurrency Bent on WORLD DOMINATION (in the game Gravity). But overall it allows you to offer goods and service to others and have them pay you with ion. Think of it as another type of Dollar bill in your wallet. Just your Wallet is digital and on your computer. The best part of ion is the fact that the more you keep in your wallet the more your wallet will generate. So gather them while you can. And lets take over the world!
999  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 05, 2017, 08:04:35 PM
Another Masternode Program being built by the ION community...


https://masternodes.ionomy.com/
1000  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: April 05, 2017, 05:42:54 PM
Same discussions going on just like on Hashtalk when XPY was launched.
We went from Hashpoints->Paycoin->ION. Keep it going!  Roll Eyes

and the Ionomy Vision continues to expand...
from ION->Atoms->Electrons->Cards->Game Rewards
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