Would it be possible to get a new shipping estimate from an official BFL employee?
I didn't find up to date information on the BFL website.
Asking on the official BFL forums, I only got trolled & ridiculed, no valuable information was given to me.
Shipping always starts the last half of whatever the current month is... "Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of January 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of February 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of March 2013."
"Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013." Also from the horses FAQ mouth.. Any orders made in April 2013 + 4-6 Months for delivery!  https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showwiki.php?title=FAQ:Real+Shipping+Estimate&do=article#post22854FAQ:Real Shipping Estimate
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Question:
When will BFL actually start shipping to customers?
Answer:
BFL is expected to begin sending units out by no later than April 30th. Of course this is subject to change if BFL runs into any issues.
Question:
How long before I receive my units?
Answer:
Could be 4-6 months if you ordered in early April!
BFL has over 33,000 order numbers right now. Some maybe fake or refunded. ie. cancelled. Say 30%. That still leaves little over 23,000 valid orders.
Some people ordered 1 unit. Others 2. Others 3 and some with 4 units. So, expect the avg. units/order to be about 2. Could also be 2.5 or 3 or even 1.5, etc.
That means 46,000 units, 2 x 23,000, before getting to last order made today. Very likely this number is right but impossible to know for sure.
BFL will make 400 units/day. 2,000 units/week. 8,000 units/month. That means:
->4 months = 32,000 units
->5 months = 40,000 units
->6 months = 48,000 units
If you want to be somewhat optimistic you could say, 40% cancelled but that seems a tad high to me & 1.5 units per order which is little on the low side.
33,000 * 0.6 = ~20,000 * 1.5 = 30,000 units = 3 months + 3 weeks (almost 4 months) before order ships out.
DELIVERY TIME
Add another at least 12-15 days for outside of USA or 4-7 days inside USA to that time.
This comes out to 4-6 months to receive an order placed around early April.
NOTES:
* Cancelled orders can be more or less than estimated. It is impossible to know exactly how many there are for sure. Some people have said maybe as high as 50-70% for fake & refunded orders. Just redo the math to get an estimated ship date for your order if you agree with them instead.
** Unit avg per order is very likely 2 but can be more (or less).
I had to guess for both the percentage of cancelled orders and units/order. I believe and hope they are close to the actual results but have no idea whether those guesses are right or wrong.
PS, even if you were really optimistic, 50% cancel + 1.5 units/order, you still would be looking around 3+ months before product shipped out to you.
PPS, It maybe best to go with 50% cancel & 2 units/order. That will make this shipping "guess" closer to both 30 & 70% because half way in-between them. This would make sense since the actual cancelled orders are unknown by us and could be somewhere between 30-70%.
33,000 * .5 * 2 = 33,000 units / 2,000 = 16.5 weeks = 4.125 months + delivery time. How does one put in a fake order and how do they not know how many orders there are? Overall, I enjoyed the fuzzy math. I have a question for those who've ordered more than one unit at the same time: Did you get a single order number, or an order number assigned to each unit. If the former, wouldn't they have to send your complete order at the same time oppose to splitting up the order? |
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Relax guys. It's time written into a block. It can vary within 2 hour timeframe.
Yup. Happens pretty often. I think Luke-Jr brought up a point (at least a year ago) where it could be problematic for some reason, but it wasn't anything major, IIRC. Yea, nothing to see here just there there was nothing to see when InstaWallet was approached with an issue but assured everybody that everything was fine--then poof, they were gone. I'm sure this is just a hiccup of some nature, but truly, truly needs to be addressed. Full Disclosure (and hope I don't regret this): I truly like BlockChain. |
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I will not be online for most of the rest of the day.
If Boussac is seen online at any time could someone please let me know here.
I need to know if any non-response is due to him not being online or due to him choosing not to respond.
Thanks
He was online, but I guess he's taking lessons from Jody. |
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I have already seen that... what's your point?
Seriously? |
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The phone number is ours. But it was previously held by the company you mentioned. Unfortunately the information of the old owner is widely spread and we dont have control over all sites keeping old data.
Thats fine and easy to verify. Still, would you agree on meeting in person in Stockholm so I can verify your identities? if you want my opinion, verifying his identity would not give any proofs of their ability to deliver waste of time i could make such a similar posts and website and still have nothing to deliver I also doubt that they will be able to deliver within the specified timeframe, but one does not how long they have been working/preparing on it so I will give them the benefit of a doubt. Also, if identities are confirmed, it will be easier to hold them accountable if need be. Same phone number, different last name: http://www.i-lindesberg.se/p/5495507Bengt Michael Andreas Johansson
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Is there any interest out there for a company that could produce ASIC miners? We would like to participate in the discussion on the hardware ASIC miners so we can contribute and make new devices come alive.
best regards
KNCminer
I did the homework for you guys, weeding threw ALL their post. Took me hours! Seriously, there's only a handful of posts by these guys, and anybody with half a brain (no pun intended) can see right through this ruse. Yet, people are providing them their vitals at this point in time, later thinking about sending them money. Madness! |
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Our custom design Bitcoin ACIS miners will be available for pre orders soon.
To keep things simple we have decided to allow two types of pre-orders.
The first is a full payment method that will let you join the queue at the lowest possible number.
The second is a method will let you join for a 50% deposit. This payment is for all miners produced after number 500 has been finished. The remaining 50% of the money will be required 3 weeks before delivery of the miner
As soon as we ship miner number 1 to a member of the public we will remove the deposit purchase method.
So you have two purchase choices. We know that we are not the first in the market to have such equipment. We also know there are a lot of people out there who will take your money and run. We believe this method will allow people to gain trust in our company whilst still rewarding those who are willing to trust us first. We also know that enough of you idiots who don't have a clue will opt for either option 1 or option 2. It doesn't matter which one you choose, for we will still come out a winner. Your call! |
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Finished reading. Here's my assessment. This guy seems to know a lot about the other vendors, real and fake, and uses that information to cater to emotions. It starts in the OP and carries the theme threwout this thread with his responses, so much so that I wanted to throughup.
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Ive preordered the "2 batch" and im 26 on queu. Hope you guys are real and this aint a scam.
OMG! I think I'll have to suck off their sockpuppets too. |
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Sorry to be skeptical, but here we go again
New company springs up
no product or even product specs
shipping some time in the future
join the cue and only pay half price-what a deal
Thanks for your reply. I honestly can’t blame you at all and I think you are quite right. To make people feel better I will try to do my best to answer as many questions as possible. First I will start by listing our negative points and then the points that I believe will help people 1. We have only just opened 2. We have no previous history 3. We are taking your money in Advance So to answer these issues I would like to say the following and please feel free to quote me. 1. Yes we have just sprang up, everyone has to start somewhere, We have been personally mining for a few months and we want to be part of the ASIC wave which I think we can all say is coming in the next few months Avalon have already started and I don’t need to talk about BFL. 2. The hardware development companies we are using (names will become public shortly) have many years of ASIC and FPGA development behind them and we are confident that with their expertise we can produce and deliver when they become public so will there work and you can purchase there designs and see all the publicly available information on them 3. Let me be very clear on this one our web shop is not taking payments for ANY products today at all. We will only open up for payments when we have some more significant specs to provide. We have opened up for registration only and so that when we do launch a product we will hopefully have a bit of history so point 1 will become less of an issue. Things that will happen this week We are going through Thawte to get a EV certificate so our website will be https to give you extra confidence. We will be constantly posting on our news pages of the progress we make in the next few weeks, We are holding daily meetings with the partners and getting reports on progress on the development, we are faces with some challenges and some decisions that will be made, We will use the voting section on our site to allow as getting feedback on things like power consumptions requirements and device size. Time is at the essence and we will take feedback and suggestions from anyone in this early stage to actually drive the development with real user requirements ONLY then when we have enough stats and some hard figures will we launch the ability to enter the order queue, so before that day comes I would like to ask all the Secptics out there, to please comment here and reply. The more you ask questions the more I will try to produce something that will enable you to trust us. I understand that this need will disappear after we actually ship and everyone feel free to actually wait to place the order. But the more people that register the more our hardware partners will through resources at it and the faster we can get something that you can actually order and mine with As for names behind the company I can give you two names today Mine is Sam Cole and my college is Andreas Kennemar the company we hold together is called Kennemar & Cole Hense the KNC in the name of KNCminer our other business is an IT consultancy in Sweden we have a site called www.hitta.se you will find us both on there, This sucks! I'm now convince after viewing hitta.se history at archives.org. Now, I need to fly to Sweden and perform two blowjobs. |
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Hi everybody, We are Swedish miners that are producing our own ASIC miners to strengthen the market and avoid monopoly. Our company kncminer is pleased to announce the opening of a brand new web shop dedicated to the online sale of Bitcoin hardware to the international community, www.kncminer.com. A lot of scam sites are appearing every day and we are not one of them, therefore we will not take any orders and are only registering interest. We will in the upcoming weeks opening our order book to allow the purchase of our first set of ASIC miners. They are in the early stages of development now and will be ready in the summer of 2013 (yes in just a few months) Register an account now it’s completely free and if you subscribe to our newsletter we will alert you the moment we open the order books for entry and other information around the ASIC products. If you have any questions we will be happy to answer them. Happy mining Finally, a company I can trust. Please send me your address so that I come by and suck your dick. This post may or may not be edited after I read the rest of the thread. It better be funny, or I'll be pissed. |
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I honestly thought coinablu was a reputable business :S
So did they! But now that Jon and David Hollis are gone, it's now a one Jay show handling all the other differently named sites selling the same products. |
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Acquiring below $3 and not touching them, keeping them safe at InstaWallet. Opted to strike the second half of the sentence to stay on-topic.  |
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Tainted Satoshis as collector items listed on eBay in 5...4...3...
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The true believers and shills in the shoutbox take this as a sign that a HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT is pending and likely that BFL will ship this week.. "please josh, throw us a crumb". They are debating whether BFL will instantly ship 400 per day and how long it will take to ramp up to 800 per day.
I am sure friedcat is shaking as his market share of hashing would be obliterated by this BFL manufacturing forte.
That is excellent news! Too bad that as of last Friday the FCC still doesn't have a single Single or any other product from their facility to test. I searched the site for Wyoming, Kansas and Missouri, along with BF Labs and Butterfly Labs, and just Butterfly. The states were the easiest to search, for you just put the list in alphabetical order and read down, checking any entity that may fit their criteria. Honestly, they would have no choice but to use their Inc. name and only one of these three states. If they ship without an FCC label on their products, they will be fined. |
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It's up now, but I can't get any of the sections to open up, yet it states it has viewers.
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And btw it s still strange that davout , the guy who is actively involved with bitcoin-central has since dissapeared from the forum.
So, the guy who assured me all is well is gone? I can't wait to suck his dick as my way to thank him. Hopefully, he'll take the time to stick it up my ass first. Wait, that's already been done. |
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BFL has been doing business in Leawood, Kansas for many months now. ...Not that I believe they aren't scamming everyone. This is a fact. They are in a new remodeled location of which as of to this day a permit was NEVER filed to do all the extensive changes that has been documented on both forums. I guess we could thank them for fucking their beloved local economy by not paying the fee, but with the money saved they'll be able to honor the $140,000 USD, and climbing since it's pegged to BTC, to charity much easier. Nary a permit! Without a permit, the city has no idea of what's going on in the building. At least they're in the same boat as BFL's customers. What do you guys make here? Short of giving you a quarter so that you can buy a clue, we make vaporware that mines virtual currency for our anonymous investors. Are you incorporated? Yes. In Wyoming. Can we speak with the president of the company? Sure, as soon as he gets back from the 7-11 buying a lott... a lott... a lot of Pepsi, for we're having a party later this afternoon, entertaining a miner from outta state. What's in all those boxes? Parts being returned, in fact a swarm of locust will be here any time now to pick them up to bring them to the post office. What the heck is that? You never seen a chicken before? No, next to the chicken? A box of fans. What's it used for? You truly don't have a clue, do you? What are those big machines over there? Props. I'm afraid that I'm goin' have to... Here's an envelop. ...say that everything looks pretty legit. Have a nice day, Josh. |
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Doesn't matter. The donation was not promised in USD so it's 1000 BTC no matter what the rate is.
I want to see a charity announcing "thank you for the 1000 BTC donation" and not weasel words from BFL!
BFL is in the unique position of getting an NPO to embed a Bitcoin donation onto their website as a simple term in accepting the soon to be quarter million dollar donation. Surely they're not thinking about photoshopping some document proving that $X was sent to Charity Y, otherwise... Me: Hello, Charity Y. CY: How can we help you today? Me: I donated money to BFL in your name and they said that they sent you $X (1,000 BTC). Did you receive... Why are you laughing? CY: Sorry, but the check they sent us bounced like a rubber chicken. They did give us a voucher... Why are you laughing? Me: Was the voucher for 25% off the future order of chicken feed... Why are you laughing? CY: No! It was for some sort of their out-of-stock money mining machine manufactured by some guy who used to be in the lottery business and the son of some guy who once ran for governor of Nevada. I think I peed my pants. |
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I had to unlock a thread to get the following quote: Probably just not interested in bad publicity.
+1. We're getting an office space ASAP. The Wyoming incorporation service was mainly for tax reasons and to get the site off the ground. I apologize if you got the wrong idea because of it. We're working to provide as trustworthy and secure of a service as possible. Edit: The phone number is up on the main page. We changed it so international callers could reach us as well. I guess they're still getting an office: http://whois.domaintools.com/bitcoinfriday.comDomain Name: bitcoinfriday.com
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