I don't trust all these HYIP websites and I'm looking for a more reliable way to invest.
Any suggestions?
Yes almost hyip now is not safe anytime you can lost all your money. So the most reliable way here in forum is the best one no need to invest money here. Just invest your time so that you can earn money. Not only HYIP, some junk ICOs is not reliable as well. They run the ICOs in order to steal people money from crowdfunding and build the stupid cryptos system which can not adapt what people need. And do not trust cloud mining at all, they can turn into scammers after one or two second. You will never know when it will happen. Be wise when using the Internet investment type of HYIP is indeed not safe and not a good choice for investment. ICOs is indeed always profitable for me, therefore you have to be smart in choosing. the point is when you want to invest in ICOs, at least they have to use escrow. If not, better do not invest. ICO's are not guaranteed also to grow your bitcoins if you don't know how to know the road map and the devs behind that ICO. Because I'm thinking that because HYIP's are already determined to be scam by most of us. Those people behind those scams are also migrating into some other way to scam people and I guess they are already in ICO's. Because of the reality that no investment will guarantee you profit here, in every investors who are successful we can also expect that there are a lot of investors as well who are not successful, it is just a matter of timing and deep diligence when it comes to investment. It's our money at risk so we must take care of it to continue our venture. |
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Technically yes, it could potentially happen as long as you keep hitting the right rolls but statistically speaking it should be unprofitable to gamble in the long term against a house edge because the house will always be winning, especially when there are thousands of gamblers out there.
There might be one lucky person that hits something, but all the rest lose in the long term.
Agreed,,, some time may be gamblers can hit something big thats why usually gamblers always come back with his/her money. Then they will lose small amount every day and they will lose more money than their profit. Thats what happening with me, and i believe alot of people have same situation with me. Therefore we can conclude that gambling is not profitable in the long run for us, it's the reality but we can still stay in gambling but we should change our purpose from making money which in reality we are giving to seeking happiness purely. |
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This is worth reading for. Bitcoin has been globally popular
in many countries. I think one of the friendly countries
is Philippines. Pinoy has been easily adopt the use of
bitcoin. One of the country has its fond to use it,
because of its easy use, easy to understand the process
of bitcoin.
It's not ban in the Philippines and there's no law yet about bitcoin so that would make your statement correct. We are here because the competition is fair and the outcome of our venture would always depend on our effort. Bitcoin will surely give us benefits if we stay with it and live with it. Honestly, it's my new world now. |
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I don't think so that just putting higher bets will make you rich, there is no assurance to help you successful with that method because the opposite side has more possibility to happen which is losing. I'd rather go with smart play as long as you I have a high bank roll.
Putting higher bets will actually made you rich if you are lucky enough to sustain for too long but as you said chances of lossing is still there since its normal on gambling that you could able to loose. Playing safe is recommended rather than rushing up to yourself to become rich because unexpected circumtances do really happens anytime instead of becoming rich you will surely become poor instantly. Yeah, but only if you can guarantee you will win, I know myself that I can make a big bet but I cannot risk my savings just to be rich in gambling as there's no certain here. All of us are subject to losing therefore although it's lucrative for some gamblers but for me I would not follow them. |
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People will always find way to evade tax with or without Bitcoin, I know because the way Bitcoin is designed it encouraged tax evasion, but I know people that do always declare their Bitcoin profit frequently.
We do, however bitcoin gives us the opportunity to evade tax without a legal implication. We will not be prosecuted as there's no law that prohibit of using bitcoin and requiring us to report the income we generated here. |
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I prefer with online gambling because it did not foreclose a lot of time. With just a few clicks and wait time then we already know that win or lose. Real gambling is very dangerous, because the losing players could commit crimes. That thing I had ever experienced, when I won my money robbed by loss players.
I like the convenience that online gambling gives to us because it is not giving us any headache unless we are going to lose as we gamble, but that's given. And there are more trouble in real gambling for sometimes players are floating to lose control. Unlike online gambling, you can gamble peacefully at your home while eating some grapes. Online gambling is more easy for us since we do not need to go to a physical place of casino just to gamble, that how the technology world this days and it's very popular in the western countries and other big countries. The good thing with bitcoin online gambling is it unites us to gamble since only a minimum amount is needed to start. |
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It won't. Bitcoin has not yet received the necessary adoption it needs to replace Fiat currency. You can't buy groceries yet with bitcoins. Unless the world goes completely digital, this might not happen even if the price rises to $10,000 each. Even if it does rise that high, I think the governments will just create their own monetary system which shall also be digital to replace the fiat currency right now.
We may say that it won't today, but for the next days adoption will occur. But regardless the value of bitcoin, fiat will remain and will be used by the people because the government says so. And only if the government will implement total dump up for fiat money then fiat will be worthless at all, but I can't see that it will happen. Government would not do that since it's there money, they will always want to have that money in the circulation as with paper money they will be able to monitor the total money in circulation and every transaction if possible will be tax. And as long as bitcoin will not dominate in the world, it will not replace fiat. |
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If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.
If it is urgent I will borrow money to my relatives and friends and if I have some bitcoin here I will just put it as collateral,but I will not resort to anything illegal ,this problem will come to fast,you have to protect your reputation it's also your investment. Best thing to do is to fall back on to your own family and then to friends. Doing illegal things would only get you into more shitload of troubles. Be true and work honestly.Try to cash in your investments if you need. Good advice and I wish we will remain strong despite of the trials in life, it's not an excuse to do bad things as it has a bad consequences in the end. We have to live fair and balance and if possible be prepared for the future like having your own savings. |
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is the best investment at the moment. I will consider investing in some good altcoins in the future, like Monero, but at the moment I believe Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to hold.
Yes bitcoin is the best investment for the types of crypto currency. And my investment has a lot more funded for holding it. But still I have some of my investments backing up and supporting my needs with trading. And if you want to join some legit and trusted ICO's you may try to invest with Betking. Just click my signature. No reason to argue about bitcoin as being the best investment because it's pretty obvious now base on the profitability ratio. Some investment could be less risky but the reward is not as big as bitcoin can offer us, so for small investors we have to gamble for bitcoin for bigger reward. |
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I dont understand why people ruin their lifes gambling, always dreaming with the big jackpots, and be blind about the consequences of gambling. A gambler dont know the work stop or give up, when you able to make some income from those , you think you are with lucky, this usually make you loose all your capital in the short period.
There not ruining their lives intead their doing this because they need profit i know their are still people who keep playing and keep trying to win in gambling and their people had the big chance to win the jackpot or to win big gambler know how to stop but they didn't when giving up in gambling means you accepted your lose. Those people who are hoping to hit the jackpot has the biggest problem in gambling, I don't even hope for hitting it but I know there are some. They need to hit they head in the wall and so that their minds will be refreshed that their hope is going to be null in the end. Addiction in everything is the hardest thing for a person to fight for because they can't even avoid it easily even they want to. I dont consider people trying to hit the jackpot has the biggest problem in gambling. For me people who has the biggest problem are those lossing hundred of btc. But they dont need to hit their head in the wall they just need to realize that they are not doing good. And could be worst if ever they dont stop. Doesnt matter at all the ammount you do risk trying to hit the jackpot, since you will get addicted to gamble and may end loosing control, if a person does loose 2000 playing for a year or if loose those in a month, the problem here is get addicted and not be able to stop. As long as one aim to earn something from gambling, then it is a problem because gambling is not made for that purpose. If you just play these games without expecting any profits once in awhile, then you will enjoy those games and will not lose a lot of money in gambling. Correct, the purpose of gambling is simply for entertainment only as it's not advisable to seek for the profit due to low success rate of the punters. Maybe we have to re evaluate ourselves to determine our capacity to have more chances and if we feel we do not have chances we must stick to the entertainment to minimize our loses. |
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Gamble in sports betting so you can research every team statistics and compare it to other that way you can determine who to bet so the chance of winning will be higher. Avoid roulette game as I don't have good experience to it stick to statistic games just to be safe .
sports betting is another smart way for us to playing gambling and maybe its a safer one for us because if we are sports fan then we should know much about the each team especially our favorite team depend other people and its make us could make the good prediction and win the games. I do agree that in sports betting we can reduce losses and increase our winning percentage. But still need some luck to win our bets because these days many matches are fixed so our decision based on their past performance can easily go wrong. So always remember don't bet huge amount in any single match to avoid big losses. I wish luck would be easy to find, but base on experience it's not that's why I lose most of the time even in sports betting. From now, my concern is only to have fun and minimize my loses as much as possible. Everything should have a limit for both winning and losing so we'll be fine and enjoy gambling longer. |
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use a small amount in gambling is the right choice. because then you can minimize the losses can you get. in addition, the small amount, you do not need to hesitate in taking decisions, because it is one of the reasons of defeat in gambling. keep control of yourself and still use a small amount
And this is one of the best way to start in gambling especially those people who are not familiar and very new in gambling. Because even you will bet in higher way for sure that will make you bankrupt easily and there's no assurance that you'll get profit with it. But if you will bet lower amount, this is good enough because it is affordable to lose and easy to recover when you lose. While starting in your gambling journey with a small amount is good is even better to start with no money and just use the play money that a lot of casinos offer. It should be something serious since what we are talking here is a gambling journey, it's fun actually especially who you last in the game. Just stay focus with your goal and everything will be fine. Gambling is for fun and should not be treated seriously to avoid addiction. |
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What do you guys think it would happen if all the governments in the world declared bitcoin to be illegal?
How do you think the community would react? What could be the possible solutions?
Which country will ban it. Wait a second no country owns Bitcoin. Drugs are banned so don't people use it. People use it. So if it gets banned price will shoot up the sky. So ya banned or not banned I did use it. Banning something is tantamount to saying it's illegal, I guess you cannot compare it with drugs as drugs is for consumption while bitcoin is a fuel to be able to transact online, it's not physical unlike drugs and it does not do harm into your body. Definitely, it would bring a negative effect on the users as whole since our freedom has been compromise due to regulations that we need to follow to be safe. |
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That's a good question. I just kepp in mind the "buy low sell high." When the price is low its the right time to buy and when it gets higher to get modest profit, thats the time to sell.
Yes you are and all of traders doing same what is in your mind, but it will become problem if the price after bought bitcoins or altcoins becomes more decrease deeply, what is have to do? And it is need more rules on trading it is not just about "buy low and sell high" but more than it, we must have system trading for making money from trading. i think for the most traders will cut loss their coins before its going down to deep but if we can make analyze in how much deep the price will go down and we are sure that the price will be up, then i think we are ready to hold more longer then anybody because we know that the price is just correction and its normal for correction. For investors who are more focus in the long term, big price fall back does not matter to them as they need to trust the future of bitcoin and it's already expected that it's part of the journey to see a price pump and dump. As long as it's not yet on the targeted investment plan, we should not make any action on it. |
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I agree, most of the time gamblers became addicted because of the instance that they experienced to gain profit from winning the gambling and yes that might be the main reason why most people who are dealing with gambling became addicted and enjoyment or entertainment is not the real reason as most of them came to gambling actually for profit.
Yes every gambler is expecting to win and become rich within minutes and this thinking make them additive to gambling. If someone wins in gambling and he starts think just one more time to gamble and to win, that is enough so he will lose again and he will try again to repeat his winning and stays within gambling and get addicted. I think that's not true, what you are trying to make an example is not really what is happening, if we can be rich within a minute then we should be gambling with a decent amount of money, however the reality is not, most of the gamblers cannot afford to have that big bankroll while they are hoping for a bigger win, they only use a small amount of money which made them too reliant on their luck. |
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well, 5000 euro sounded very much in my ear. if I had the money, I might as well have built a new business, and maybe I will also invest some of it or all of them. the best investment possible in altcoin, because many altcoin that really can make you a profit in a short time. besides, you can try to play trading, because with that much money, you can also turn a profit very much in a short time. but, it also has risks accordingly.
Yes both investing into altcoins and trading them will be having more risk, but going very select and reputed coins will minimize the chances of unexpected losses during our trading and investing. For the professional trader 5k Euro will be not a very big amount as they will be preferring to trade in big volumes, still I too agree it is a very big amount personally I do not prefer to risk that much big amount in trading. Yeah 5k euro is big and might be loss and bad flactuating markets on cryptoworld and. I can't take to put up such huge amount on cryto trades since scam coins are scattered on every exchange, so if we have 5k EURO in our hands much better if we invest in on stocks and find a good brooker who can play your on, crypto trades are not really needed huge money and advisable to put only some little of our spare money so los will not destructable when markets goes down. It is better to invest in the bitcoin directly. Investing in the mining is too risky. The difficulty is rising fast. Maybe I could agree on your statement, if you take a look of the performance of bitcoin or to be specific let's take for example this year alone. We have witness on how the price grow this year, and by holding your bitcoin you easily made a profit of more than a 100% of your money. Pretty big rate compared to banks and any other legitimate business. |
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This is certainly not going to make people stop using fiat. Bitcoin needs more than a price increase to attract more users.
It is really necessary the availability of places where people offer goods and services, which allow users to use Bitcoins, to have acess to it.
Yes, it needs wider adoption and involvement of a lot of people into Bitcoin using it daily for buying things and paying bills with it. In other words, doing with Bitcoin everything that ordinary people do with fiat money. That would be real adoption of Bitcoin as a means of exchange, not for speculating as it seems to be mostly used for today. In that situation we are defeating the fiat if that happened, I do not see it would be the big adoption that will happen in the future, the government will not allow that to happen as they cannot control bitcoins, how are the taxes gonna be manage which is the bread and butter of a country. It's impossible and even saying fiat would be worthless is just some kind of fantasizing. |
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i still believe that win in gambling is depend on our luck because without luck, we can even win the games even if we pro skill as gamblers in all gambling games. i think it will be good if our luck still work while we playing gambling and we can win the games with easy  I hope luck is going to be with us all the time, it's good if it's possible so we just have to work a little time in a day. I am one of the gamblers also who are making an effort to experiment to find a way to win consistently in gambling, but until now I am still here, a loser. Luck sometimes with me but in the long run, I end up losing. |
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Kids will be kids, it's hard for them to understand bitcoin so it's better to wait at the right time. Don't force to educate at their level.
There are clever kids, not all kids are at the same level of IQ. Sometimes they could even understand what an adult told them. It's not hard to teach a kid as long as they are willing to learn, just don't force them to learn it. As for the teenager, well, they should be taught directly without sugarcoating, since they have experience facing their teacher for a long time even if its boring, I am sure they could earn it easily, again, just don't force/push it if they don't want. I get what you are trying to explain, but IMO there are things that kids should not learn at their age. Experience is important and kids does not have that, they are to aggressive and if you will look what are the possible things bitcoin can do, it could be risky for them as they might learn how to gamble as it's one of the popular ways to enjoy our bitcoins here. |
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Thank for accepting, I'll be with you for 3 weeks.
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