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Clif just predicted VERI moon on the December 3rd 3 Amigos earlier today ... even though all the cryptos will be going way up starting in late February his exact words were "VERI will dominate" and gave example of winners going up 10-12% per day ... at the same time VERI will be going up 30% PER DAY  As I said at the end of the Veritaseum ico ... "see you on the Forbes List" |
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If any of you will spend some time on Slack and Telegram too you will realize Sam is the real deal ... I don't know when he sleeps, maybe on flights to Korea and back ... he is always on there answering any and all questions ... helping with every technical issue ... very comfortable in his shoes as President of Centra ... has a vision to actually become the bank within two years along with mini-Amazon C-Bay The payouts for token holders will be .8% of all Centra network transactions (compared to .5% for Tenx PAY) and will bring banking all the unbanked around the world. Sam is the perfect demeanor to talk to every age group and is so technical he can fix technical problems himself and knows how to deal with hackers. The ico was attacked on a massive scale several times ... guess what? as usual Centra came out smelling like a rose because this is the A team ... and guess why all the attacks? the competition knows Centra is the real deal ... Floyd Mayweather knows a winner when he sees it https://twitter.com/FloydMayweather/status/909911035263328256 |
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Join the Centra Tech slack and you'll get alot of your questions answered ... President Sam is on there all the time |
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Where'd ngin-x and toknormal go? |
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If you haven't "Ignored" toknormal, do yourself a favor and click Ignore under his name on the left ... Reggie has personally tried to explain and reason with this guy and to no avail... he'll come back with some kind of logic that makes sense to him and maybe a newbie, lucky for me I won't see it unless one of you copy it into your post  |
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More FUD about something Reggie has already answered "Now... it was stated earlier that they can move it to a diiferent chain, if they can great because I think they won't have choice soon. Again, IMHO." Veritaseum is platform agnostic per CEO Reggie Middleton End of discussion .... oh in my fn humble opinion lol Anything else Activity 2 Newbie? |
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Ok. Comical interlude over. I apologise for winding you up @paulmaritz. I should not have done that as it isn't my intention to use these posts to make people feel uncomfortable. But lets take stock as to who is the real troll here. I have been contributing considered opinion, often accompanied by some reasonable argument and the odd bit of anecdotal illustration and calculation. I've done so in good faith because having traded these markets for 4 years you observe certain things that are blatantly obvious market movers. I've also been careful not to use the "s" word, nor have I dismissed this token's fundamentals, which I believe to be sound, and nor have I "ad hominem'd" anybody as far as I'm aware. What have you contributed of illuminating value ? You posted that coinmarketcom quote which was useful - I hadn't seen that. Apart form that, a large amount of handwaving and pictures of trolls. So maybe a truce would be fruitful plus a more constructive appraisal of the matter at hand. The issue as I see it is that when you have a single holder with a large amount of asset to sell in an illiquid market you need some kind of market leader to act as a price discovery mechanism so you can go and negotiate with 'large buyers' and make so called 'institutional sales'. (Which are not actually institutional at all since there are no institutions regulating them, they're just sales). That was the role of the ICO and subsequent market rise on tiny volume. What will happen now is that OTC (over the counter) sales will be made at significantly discounted token-to-coin exchange rates and large volumes which come from outside the published coin supply but which effectively qualify as 'circulating supply' since the tokens have now been distributed. This is great for large investors but for small investors there is considerably more risk from 2 sources: 1. a step change in published supply invoking a large and abrupt correction to the downside in token exchange rate to compensate for marketcap growth 2. an arbitrage driven correction between OTC and Exchange markets I'm not necessarily saying that this will happen, I'm just pointing out that this risk is carried disproportionally by the small investor because: • they do not gain from the liquidity increase (as the ICO issuer does) • they do not gain from the OTC discount (as the 'institutional buyer' does) Sure, it may all work out and as has been pointed out, some other assets do this to a limited extent. But the ratio of published to unpublished supply in this case is absolutely monumental (which is why I suggested the policy of marketcap reporting is being 'gamed') and its something that no investor has control over. Their interests do depend on things staying that way as far as I can see. Litecoin has 84,000,000 million coins but they are currently only at 51,000,000 million...why are you not calling LTC a scam or XRP, or BTC or any others for that matter? Because Litecoin is a mined coin. The 84,000,000 don't currently exist whereas the 100,000,000 VERI do, are currently in a wallet and ready to be sold at the holder's whim. There's no "2 Million liquid supply" and "98 million illiquid supply". There's just a 100 Million token wallet with a single holder. I won't call you a troll. You actually do raise some points worth considering. The problem is that you are disseminating opinion as fact, and it is incorrect and simply wrong. For instance, you said "What will happen now is that OTC (over the counter) sales will be made at significantly discounted token-to-coin exchange rates". That's simply incorrect. Ask anyone who has purchased in bulk, they will tell you that thus far we have sold at a "premium" to the so-called "token-to-coin exchange rates", not a discount. You see, the problem is that you do not understand the business model of Veritaseum. It is a software solutions and financial engineering platform, and not a make believe faux security. You reasoning keeps defaulting to the latter, despite my and others having corrected you several times. You also stated "I've done so in good faith because having traded these markets for 4 years you observe certain things that are blatantly obvious market movers." It is apparent that you have not traded in anything similar to Veritaseum with a economic platform business model or you would realize that the more the merrier (you know, Metcalfe's Law, and all...). Again, you are consistently looking at the economics as a inflationary item count or some sort of dilutive effect similar to traded equities. That is almost the antithesis of what we have here. Basically you don't get it, but you are obvisouly an intelligent guy, so it is apparent that you can get it. This leads to troll comments from others in the forum, because it seems as if you don't want to get it. The biggest visible distribution from "reggie's wallet" of tokens thus far would be the proposed Jamaican Stock Exchange deal. That caused VERI price to more than double, So here, we have a real world example of what you declaring, yet the real world effect is the opposite of what you are asserting. There are many more deals in the pipeline, most are as large, and many are larger than the JSE deal. I would expect a pop with each deal as the network effect grows stronger, but you will be left in a lurch as you look at things from a value dilutive perspective. It's accretive, if anything. You also stated "But the ratio of published to unpublished supply in this case is absolutely monumental ". That comment is nonsensical. The entire issuance is published, it's called the blockchain - the point of this entire exercise. Isn't that how you came to find out about the amount? Everyone else in the world can do the same thing. Another freakin' badass mic drop from Reggie Can every idiot savant that comes on here thinking we're under some spell from the "Reggie Cult" be pointed to this post? |
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This user is currently ignored. I appreciate that having your definition of what constitutes "public trading" challenged may sound like trolling but in fact as I understand it, if Reggie sells any entity a bag of tokens then they are free to trade it however they like - publicly, privately or not at all (i.e. held, to be "used in the machine"). You made it sound like that wasn't the case, that's all. Feel free to clarify. Not really a great effort at trolling there amigo ... you gotta have something more original than the same question answered (even by Reggie himself) a dozen times I'll give you an E for Effort though. Now ... to the "Ignore" feature for you (on the far left under his/her name) |
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15 Zcash Zcash $434,050,853 $279.59 1,552,444 ZEC $31,890,700 -2.08% 16 Veritaseum Veritaseum $425,817,001 $216.45 1,967,295 VERI * $1,824,940 24.62% Anybody want to trade their VERI for ZCASH? Didn't think so ... Haha .. Nope Ill be keeping all of mine forsure but, I have been picking up Cloak coin on the dips. If you follow Clif you know why. I've got a little Cloak ... a little LTC ... a little XINFIN ... a little DIM ... a little PPT ... a little FUN ... a little AdEx ... a little CVC ... a little silver ... and a BUNCH of VERI!!! Yep, Clif (@Clif_High on Twitter) has made me millions $$  |
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15 Zcash Zcash $434,050,853 $279.59 1,552,444 ZEC $31,890,700 -2.08% 16 Veritaseum Veritaseum $425,817,001 $216.45 1,967,295 VERI * $1,824,940 24.62% Anybody want to trade their VERI for ZCASH? Didn't think so ... |
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Also Clif High has predicted big gains in LTC the remainder of this year while ETH sloshes a little due to it being overused for ICO's Check in on the latest on Twitter: @Clif_High Or his website halfpasthuman.com for Wealth Reports each month (sometimes more often) for $99 Clif has personally made me a fortune and we're just getting started with Cryptos ... |
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946 Currencies and Assets listed ... VERI #21 This is like College Football ... we may be #21 but NOBODY wants to play us, not even the ones ranked in the Top 5 ... NO ONE 21 Veritaseum Veritaseum VERI $362,296,990 $184.16 1,967,295 * $2,101,610 -13.71% 37.34% 113.67% |
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I do not understand what this coin is for. Web site looks like a blog with ugly template. Is this coin fundamentally strong and provide some useful service, why it grows so much? Or is it a speculative growth and it will drop to hell one day?
Nice troll job. Bravo. |
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You are officially "Ignored", Josef just like the 999 guy ... so don't bother responding to me ... too bad I'll never know if you are a troll or an idiot or both For what it's worth.. My bad. You posted that youtube link and I was arguing with Jonny Blaze in the comments about his claims of Reggie and Veritaseum being a scam and jumped to conclusions. Too many Troll battles ..LOL Makes you a little paranoid I guess. HA! sorry for that. Sig whores get paid in crypto. Best job ever.. Shit happens man! Trolls will be trolls don't let it git at ya. Well since I saw your post in someone else's post I will unignore ... consider hatchet buried! Now let's go make the Forbes list my friends!!! |
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You are officially "Ignored", Josef just like the 999 guy ... so don't bother responding to me ... too bad I'll never know if you are a troll or an idiot or both |
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I know who you are.. Jonny Blaze John999 jbl888 Your pissed about the ultra coin token exchange ? What in the world are you talking about? Not sure if serious ... why would I be pissed and what about my posting a very positive video of Reggie and Veritaseum would have you lump me in with the other two and label me "pissed"? ... cocaine's a helluva drug. |
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Yeah, I'm in the US, as is Clif, so we couldn't participate.
Yeah *wink* none of us in the USA *winkwink* checked the "I'm not an American citizen" box and bought the AdEx tokens during its ICO this morning ... I've heard AdEx is already selling for 25x and tokens haven't even been released yet of course ... they hit the 40k ETH hard cap in 8 hours and ICO is done ... you guys who don't follow @Clif_High on Twitter are really missing out ... AdEx was a freebie 24 hours before the ICO started since we are not getting the next Wealth Report until 7/5 ... got in this morning with 30% first day bonus so 1,100+ AdEx for 1 ETH And Clif doesn't buy the tokens he recommends so that he stays objective ... but he's sure going to raise the price of his Wealth Reports as he should |
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