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What's your problem man? Really, what's your problem? Just 3 days ago an user wrote : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=507103.msg20013494#msg20013494What kind of proof you wants? Ok you wants parameter? An user made 4 BTC Gain some weeks ago with default parameters on gnosis/Btc on Poloniex These are default parameters on LTC/BTC : - Current Algo Parameters -------------------------
Ping-Pong Mode : Normal
- General Attributes -
Min % Guaranteed Gain : 0.600
Always Create Pong Orders From Trades : true
Create Ping Orders Only If % Market Spread Is > 0.000
Avoid Immediate Price Match In Order Book : false
Check To Not Buy/Sell To Yourself : true
Don't Create Ping Orders With Total < 0.00000000
- Skip Book Orders Attributes -
- OrderBook Filters - NONE
- PriceLimit Attributes - NONE
- StopLoss Rules - NONE
- Buy/Sell Pool Parameters -
Limit Buy Pool BTC Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
Limit Sell Pool LTC Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
Reuse 100.000 % of BTC Sell Pong Trade Into Buy Pool
Reuse 100.000 % of LTC Buy Pong Trade Into Sell Pool
Never Create Ping with LTC Qty > 10000000.00000000
Never Create Ping with LTC Qty < 0.00000000
Add 0.000% LTC Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
Add 0.000% BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
Add Fix 0.00000000 LTC Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
Add Fix 0.00000000 BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Sell Price is > 99999999.00000000
Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Buy Price is < 0.00000000
Stop Ping Creation After 0 Ping-Pong Completed
Stop Ping Creation If Number Of Active Orders is > 1000
Stop Ping Creation if Total BTC Orders Amount is > 100000.00000000
Stop Ping Creation if Total LTC Orders Qty is > 100000000.00000000
Reset Sell Pool Value If Current LTC Amount is < 0.00000000
Reset Buy Pool Value If Current BTC Amount is < 0.00000000
If Needed, Adequate Pool New Ping Pool Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : false
If Pool Value > Available Amount then Adequate Pool Values to Available Amount : true
- Dust Elements Parameters -
Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 0.00010000
Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 0.00010000
Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : false
Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool
- Running Options -
Lookup Every 40 seconds
Recalculation Every 3 Lookup
Check Buy/Sell Pool Every 5 Lookup
When Convert All to LTC Became Active, delete SELL PING : false
When Convert All to BTC Became Active, delete BUY PING : false
Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to LTC : false
Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to BTC : false
- Advanced Options -
Find Trades using : Current Order Qty VS Previous
If Needed, Adequate Ping/Pong Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : true
If Calculated Sell Order Qty is > Available Qty Then Use All Available Qty : true
Merge Equal Orders Into a New One : false
Merge Equal Trades Into a New One : true
Try to Stay Alone on top orders book : true
Never Recalculate Order Qty : false
Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Buy Qty Before Create Pong Sell : true
Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Sell Total (Qty x Price) Before Create Pong Buy : true
Reduce Order To Restore Qty by 1.000% Before a new creation Retry
Consider 100.000% If Your Real BTC/LTC Balance
Subtract All Buy/Sell Pool Current Values While Considering Available Amounts : false
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Now stop trolling ok? It isn't trolling when all I was looking for is for dead simple proof of concept. When you started having laughs and the pitchforks came out then yeah, obviously I'm going to keep going. |
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Thought you said it was a hobby for you. Quit fudding up the thread. Sounds like your broke and want a guarantee that you will make. It's Crypto man. Your silly. Look at first page for how tool works. There's plenty of details.
Crypto is a hobby. You guys are all so worried about being nice but no one ever asks hard questions. This is a product for sale with the intent of making money. No one proves it (exact exchanges and settings).......do you know how stupid that sounds? Have fun with this one. |
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you can find by yourself in this topic people who post about their gains. If i'm selling this product since 2013, PROBABLY it works good, don't you think? I can write about gains and parameters, but that parameters could became osbolete the next day. I can write about big gains but then tell people "I'm sorry about your loss, the configuration i give you yesterday is not working more, it's not my fault". I can decide to sell a product but don't trade for other people And i can give any day support to people who wants to learn trading. (Usually i manage 60-100 Pm Daily) I don't understand what are you trying to demostrate. You came here, you ask thing, i give you responses. You don't like my responses? No problem. You don't like my product? No problem. You think you can tell me what i must do or not with my product? No you cant  C.A.T. is not what you're looking for ok? End of the story. Peace & Love. No I don't. Because there are no exact settings or exchanges. I would not have asked if there was. I looked. Gains can be very anomalous in trading. Long term growth is another story. Nobody knows that better than someone like myself. I don't doubt you're a nice guy, but you are selling a system that is intended to make money. You have to distinguish yourself as not being a charlitain. When replies are all over the map........"it depends, it depends, it depends" that makes it dead simple for you to shift liability and blame users. If your strategy works then don't sell it. Simple. My door isn't shut here (although its pretty clear Sampey isn't going to sell anything to me at this point) If anyone else has proof in the form of exact exchanges and settings then please post. Prove me wrong. Share your exchanges, settings, time span and results, but making fun of me for doing nothing more than seeking honesty isn't going to help. What you are asking is equivalent of having someone show you how to be a professional driver. It's not going to happen. There's no magic pill or setting as the market is living, breathing, thinking people on the other end that is constantly changing. Just like a professional car driver, it takes fundamental skills in learning how to drive and discovering the limits and capabilities of your machine. Practice, practice, learn, improve and practice some more. At the end of the day, how well you do depends entirely on you. What works for someone else may not work for you at all. There are no short cuts. A hammer is just a hammer to the average person, but in the right hands arises a home. However, it's just a hammer. It's a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. There is no secret or magical way of using it. So the real question is, if you're not willing to invest in discovering yourself, your capabilities and your potential tools, why should you expect anyone else to do it for you? Again, you guys cut so much slack its ridiculous. Definitely not. And you will learn. I've been working with trading systems for years. Its been my full-time profession for the past 12 years, and I've been in the industry for 15-16. That's why I'm looking for specifics. There is so much junk out there I just want data. But magically, it never shows up. Strange, don't you think? Google "choice supportive bias". This thread is packed with people (buyers) having it. |
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you can find by yourself in this topic people who post about their gains. If i'm selling this product since 2013, PROBABLY it works good, don't you think? I can write about gains and parameters, but that parameters could became osbolete the next day. I can write about big gains but then tell people "I'm sorry about your loss, the configuration i give you yesterday is not working more, it's not my fault". I can decide to sell a product but don't trade for other people And i can give any day support to people who wants to learn trading. (Usually i manage 60-100 Pm Daily) I don't understand what are you trying to demostrate. You came here, you ask thing, i give you responses. You don't like my responses? No problem. You don't like my product? No problem. You think you can tell me what i must do or not with my product? No you cant C.A.T. is not what you're looking for ok? End of the story. Peace & Love. No I don't. Because there are no exact settings or exchanges. I would not have asked if there was. I looked. Gains can be very anomalous in trading. Long term growth is another story. Nobody knows that better than someone like myself. I don't doubt you're a nice guy, but you are selling a system that is intended to make money. You have to distinguish yourself as not being a charlitain. When replies are all over the map........"it depends, it depends, it depends" that makes it dead simple for you to shift liability and blame users. If your strategy works then don't sell it. Simple. My door isn't shut here (although its pretty clear Sampey isn't going to sell anything to me at this point) If anyone else has proof in the form of exact exchanges and settings then please post. Prove me wrong. Share your exchanges, settings, time span and results, but making fun of me for doing nothing more than seeking honesty isn't going to help. |
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There are several examples of statements you have made in past, depreciated threads, about how much you have made
yes and do you think i've gain using a single universal parameter? I've gains because i know how to configure CAT in certain conditions. I Repeat this is a tool assitant, not a magic money machine. I wasn't going to post but then show those specific examples. What's stopping you from saying anything you want....."I made 0.4 BTC yesterday", etc. like you have in the past....people give you guys way too many free passes. PROVE IT. WHAT EXCHANGE? WHAT SETTINGS? Its soooooooooo easy. Just screenshot like you do all your features. There is no point if it doesn't make money. Zero. Zilch. Nada. If I came to work everyday saying I was going to make "tools", not money, how fast would I lose my job?
So why is that type of language acceptable here?You're just proving my point. The whole point of a bot is to make money. That's it. Not to have fun putting numbers in boxes all day. |
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this product helps you make money, doesn't makes money for you.
this is the difference between an automatic bot and something people doesn't understand that doesn't exists (an AI that is able to understand all market movements in any conditions and makes you gain).
Understood. I've been working in trading and investment (first equities then commodities) for my entire adult life (literally since I was 21....I'm 36 now). This is a hobby for me and I know full well how long it takes to produce a program like this......takes many, many hours of work. Just seeking some validation of claims. I would hand over the money right this second if you could verify the methods (exchanges and settings) used for claims on earnings, either here or in private. There are several examples of statements you have made in past, depreciated threads, about how much you have made. I know that the proper tools in the wrong hands leads to losses. I also know that the proper tools without the right guidance does the same. At the end of the day this is an algorithm with objective rules and parameters that are hard set. Anything is therefore able to be replicated/demonstrated. That's all I was looking for. Honestly I've seen so much beating around the bush over the years its enough to drive anyone insane. Clearly you're not willing to do this so I'll leave it be. I won't post here anymore. -------------------------------------------- Again here is the link to Tribeca for anyone reading this that would like to test the general CAT strategies and get a feel for the work: https://github.com/michaelgrosner/tribeca
And Tribeca's little bro: https://github.com/ctubio/Krypto-trading-bot
And here is the manual on Market Making to get an idea of how these trade. https://github.com/ctubio/Krypto-trading-bot/blob/master/MANUAL.md |
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well i worked a lot of years on this project to create dynamism, not to create an algorithm for me :-) What user ask is a lot of simple options to manage their ping-pong workflow, any customer have his needs  Ok so the answer is no. Sorry but its very frustrating.....a product being sold where the bottom line is to make money yes we're very dodgy when it comes to getting to the point. I understand all the arguments. I know you have a good quality product here. I don't mean to be hard on you but this is so typical and is extremely frustrating. It would be great to have a solid starting point vs. wrestling alligators for months on end. The end goal is making money. You have written claims about earning x BTC here and there......all I'm asking is if you can show your customers exactly how you did it. Don't mean to be rude, but honest. |
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Hi Sampey, I've used Tribeca https://github.com/michaelgrosner/tribeca and others like it.... ...so I'm familiar with how your bot works......simple question: can you provide me with proper settings (exchange and params) with a purchase? My days of playing with bots for 5 or 6 months to find proper settings and "it depends" replies are long gone and I'm just looking to get to the point here. I don't like wasting time these days when the work has already been done. Thanks in advance. Hi, CAT comes with a DEFAULT settings. Default settings are created to let you trade in any condition, BUT it's obvious that if you don't properly configure an algorithm for a specifica market in a specific moment you need a little bit of luck to have big gains. Default algorithm could works well when you're on a stable market when many times/day there are MAX/MIN Values. Thanks for the fast reply. What I meant, in a nutshell, was that you have been working on this project for many years. Surely you have pinned down some exchanges and parameters that work in your favor over a consistent period. Would you be willing to provide that information to me? Or would I have to forge forward with default settings only? I'm not looking for spoon feeding here. However, I AM seeking proof of concept that I am able to replicate and move forward on, as opposed to struggling over settings for many months. Thanks again. |
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Hi Sampey, I've used Tribeca https://github.com/michaelgrosner/tribeca and others like it.... ...so I'm familiar with how your bot works......simple question: can you provide me with proper sample settings (exchange and params) with a purchase....so I can actually get some instant gratification? My days of playing with bots for 5 or 6 months to find proper settings and "it depends" replies are long gone and I'm just looking to get to the point here. I don't like wasting time these days when the work has already been done. Thanks in advance. |
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winnway this is a very good result, what processors have this computer? I am waiting for 4 days on the block, and I have not extracted any. Due to the large power of mining networks on the pool gives really bad effects   I have an older i75960 on my main computer, and the others are at my house but nothing worth talking about. On the 5960 I've hit 4 blocks but none in the past 2 days (on any computer). On each of the other 2 I've hit 1 and 2 each. Took 4 days on one and 3 and 6 (I think) on the other. Hash rates on the crappy ones are showing 450-750. Don't know how you are managing to hit any blocks on a single CPU at those hash rates. I haven't hit a block since 06/19 running 24/7 @~1100H/m. Was averaging a block every 5 days. Difficulty has admittedly increased in the interim, but I am quite sure I am now running well under the hash/reward rate even so. I don't know either, but I was. Last block I hit on that machine was roughly 1 week ago. It's just luck.....I'm in a pool permanently now with all machines routing to it. Not sure what to tell you. |
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Are the coins that are currently mineable on the betanet worthless then?
Exactly. This was a question、rather than a statement。 so these coins I’ve mined on the beta still are worthless? Yes. They are 100% worthless. All the information you need is written on their website. You should try reading more often vs. nagging others. Source: I clicked my mouse 2 times and read it on their website. |
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Anyone else have issues with the Verium miner crashing almost as soon as you hit mine, I get a CPU usage spike to max the assigned cores, then crash and burn... Win 10 Ent x64 1703 Intel Server board with dual Xeon E5-2670's Faulting application name: verium-qt.exe, version: 1.0.3.0, time stamp: 0x07cc0fd0
Faulting module name: verium-qt.exe, version: 1.0.3.0, time stamp: 0x07cc0fd0
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x0000179c
Faulting process id: 0xd9e0
Faulting application start time: 0x01d2f53708e0a1a3
Faulting application path: D:\00. Mining\2017\Verium\verium-qt.exe
Faulting module path: D:\00. Mining\2017\Verium\verium-qt.exe
Report Id: f3f11e44-d228-4128-aeaf-efb91b13b79e
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID: How many cores are you trying to use? Star with like 4 and see if it crashes. Then move up from there. If it crashes after certain number of cores, it may be the amount of virtual memory that you need to set. For my i7 3930k that i'm using as well as my AMD FX 8120, i had to set virtual ram to 16GB (min and max set to same) to be able to set max core - 1. So my i7 3930k i'm able to do 11 threads and fx 8120 7. It will run with all cores as well, but it struggles if you are trying to do other things. Both system have 8GB or more physical ram as well but i don't think this would be an issue. thank you, -D X2 on the virtual memory. I'm using CPUminer-opt and its consuming 768MB per thread. I had to adjust it higher on 2 of my older PCs to get it going. |
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This is incredible to watch.
SO the price jumps 4x in a day becasue all the new tech?
The Whitepaper?
The roadmap?
The demo?
The wallet coin release?
Anything tangible?
NOPE..
Nothing Burger...Chill out CNN But he is right. nothing but speculation of a 10x price increase caused the price to go up. I still don't think this project will go anywhere. I'm not even a troll. Just a regular dude who chased the ride and got burned. Do any of you people do your ------- homework?! Here, let me help: http://tauchain.orgSheesh. And stop being so naive and chasing high volume spikes with NO KNOWLEDGE of what you're doing. This is the first time I chased a coin and I regret it. And what does that website tell me? It hasn't been updated in a long time so I don't know anything new thats going on with the project. Where is a specific timeline telling me when all the projects are going to be done? The last time the project roadmap was updated was Apr 17, 2016, 2:20 AM, well over a year ago. The last time the blog was updated was Sep 10, 2016, 2:28 PM. There have been no new youtube videos. The site needs a MAJOR rebranding. How is that supposed to instill confidence in me as an investor of this shitcoin? You tell me. You're the one who bought it. You're expecting things you view as normal, the truth is anything can be done as it wants to be. We're talking about lines of code here. Obviously this isn't a typical project. You're mad because you bought the highs at, literally the last moment, and now you need a punching bag. And you're only making your (and everyone else's) situation worse here by trashing work you could never do on your own. Just wait until tomorrow and cool offf on all the negativity. |
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This is incredible to watch.
SO the price jumps 4x in a day becasue all the new tech?
The Whitepaper?
The roadmap?
The demo?
The wallet coin release?
Anything tangible?
NOPE..
Nothing Burger...Chill out CNN But he is right. nothing but speculation of a 10x price increase caused the price to go up. I still don't think this project will go anywhere. I'm not even a troll. Just a regular dude who chased the ride and got burned. Do any of you people do your ------- homework?! Here, let me help: http://tauchain.orgSheesh. And stop being so naive and chasing high volume spikes with NO KNOWLEDGE of what you're doing. |
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winnway this is a very good result, what processors have this computer? I am waiting for 4 days on the block, and I have not extracted any. Due to the large power of mining networks on the pool gives really bad effects I have an older i75960 on my main computer, and the others are at my house but nothing worth talking about. On the 5960 I've hit 4 blocks but none in the past 2 days (on any computer). On each of the other 2 I've hit 1 and 2 each. Took 4 days on one and 3 and 6 (I think) on the other. Hash rates on the crappy ones are showing 450-750. My average take home on the pool was a little over 1/day. So at 4.8 down to 4.4 reward average = 32.2 over only 6 days. vs ~7.4 (based on initial difficulty) on the pool. The number I gave is false as an average (as of today....over the period), so I didn't mean to mislead but it is misleading because of spiking difficulty. It was on that day and I was getting really ticked off because I was losing so much. Once the average evens out, I'll go back to the pool, but that's not for a while. I'm still ahead by about 24 coins. As I say I can't figure out the math on the pool.....it just didn't make sense to me.....maybe the pool creator can explain it. The high withdrawal rates also irritated me...I'm not sure why he would opt to do that but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Hope that clarifies. Difficulty remains extremely low for this coin compared to others, but climbing very fast. It will be double what I started at in no time. This is all still peanuts. If you like this coin, just buy it. Heck of a lot cheaper / faster. I mined for over a week from the wallet with no blocks found, and have never been the block finder on the pool... so If I was using the pool I would have found nothing. 3 to 5 coins per week isn't peanuts when the computer is on anyways and would have been costing money to have instead of making it. I hear you. Still no new blocks as of today. Looks like the party may be over for now. I think I'll leave it a couple more days and see if anything hits. But my finding rate hit the brakes. |
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winnway this is a very good result, what processors have this computer? I am waiting for 4 days on the block, and I have not extracted any. Due to the large power of mining networks on the pool gives really bad effects I have an older i75960 on my main computer, and the others are at my house but nothing worth talking about. On the 5960 I've hit 4 blocks but none in the past 2 days (on any computer). On each of the other 2 I've hit 1 and 2 each. Took 4 days on one and 3 and 6 (I think) on the other. Hash rates on the crappy ones are showing 450-750. My average take home on the pool was a little over 1/day. So at 4.8 down to 4.4 reward average = 32.2 over only 6 days. vs ~7.4 (based on initial difficulty) on the pool. The number I gave is false as an average (as of today....over the period), so I didn't mean to mislead but it is misleading because of spiking difficulty. It was on that day and I was getting really ticked off because I was losing so much. Once the average evens out, I'll go back to the pool, but that's not for a while. I'm still ahead by about 24 coins. As I say I can't figure out the math on the pool.....it just didn't make sense to me.....maybe the pool creator can explain it. The high withdrawal rates also irritated me...I'm not sure why he would opt to do that but it left a bad taste in my mouth. Hope that clarifies. Difficulty remains extremely low for this coin compared to others, but climbing very fast. It will be double what I started at in no time. This is all still peanuts. If you like this coin, just buy it. Heck of a lot cheaper / faster. |
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PS:
There are two types of ICO's. 1 is rarer than the other:
ICO 1. Price immediately shoots off following public release (rare)
ICO 2. Price vomits 30-45% of its body weight in the 2 weeks following release (common).
Patience, young Jedi.
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I saw a listing for a house once, sent an inquiry, and they guy insisted on meeting me at Starbucks instead of outside the house. He met me, with a contract, stating that I was not allowed to go inside before purchase (not a joke). I couldn't even believe it. This ICO makes me feel the same way, with the bonus of a graphic designer. No outsider should be taking this seriously. These terms are among the absolute worst I have ever seen. Read this: http://www.coindesk.com/eos-unpacking-the-big-promises-behind-a-possible-blockchain-contender/ |
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Back to >ICO.
Oh well, I'm going to quit watching this for a while. After all I was never in for just a quick flip. Even if the buyback is depleted the team has plenty of funds available in order to bring a good product to the market and that is all that matters at the end.
I feel the same way, I think they will rebound. I didn't invest in the ICO, but I am definitely going to take advantage of these prices. Bancor didn't even start to work and quitters quit - that's kind of funny. It's now Speculators vs Investors. Once speculators are gone, investors will be still there and in the end they'll enjoy a bigger slice of pie, if the Bancor team will deliver what promised. Which I think they will. This happens a lot in the world of equities as well - a fade after the release - the problem with these ICOs is that owners can pin whatever price they want based on their own objectives and NOT dollars and cents, like an IPO. It basically becomes anyone's guess - spin the wheel and try to determine a fair value. My biggest steady wins on these coins are based on low supply and low price vs. peers, as well as a team that continues moving forward and communicating with the public, bonus public interest steadily working on the project. Things work out. Have a decent market cap but not nuts. Market cap is, after all, just circulating supply * price. My worst? Hype. Lack of community. Stanford pedigree garbage. Tons of promises with nothing to prove it. I've been suckered into 3 of them now and they're all in the gutter. Lesson learned. This particular team has a lot of interest in this and I'm chalking it up to typical IPO over-hype. Bottom line: wait 3, 4 weeks (and when price is stable) and buy it if you believe in it (I do - they're making something easy which was before, very complex, and they have the community behind it). Give some time for the kinks to work out. Right now the rubber isn't meeting the road, though, and you have profit taking across the board overall. I can confidently say I'm done with ICOs, though, unless I'm getting a crazy multiplier on top of it all, or some other sure bet. |
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I have a little question, because I'm very slow...
One of the devs made a post saying this is why you solo mine, and linked to a block on the explorer. Now if I'm understanding this correctly, the 'Value out' figure is what the blockfinder receives? So while normally you would expect to receive currently around 4.5VRM for finding a block, you could quite possibly receive 50, 100, even 1000 VRM for discovering a block?
That hasn't been my finding. I've gotten 4 blocks over the last few days across 3 computers and all are 100% in line with the stated block reward on the vault. Re: questions about the pool, until difficulty spikes I am making significantly more solo mining than I was in the pool ATM. I don't know if it was something to do with the pool itself but I am roughly 12X over what I would be earning in the pool (I tested running all 3 machines to the same pool account simultaneously). That's 5 or 6 days running stats for me. I could be getting lucky but something just seems amiss for the time being. I plan on going back to it at some point but for now, I even scored a block on an old i5, 4 core processor. Just my findings. Everyone will be different. |
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