Nah, I think I do but no names will be named.

Its just funny that I get dropped for the first time by someone/multiples who had nothing to do with this. "This" being my defense of Sqrl labs customers.

I was dropped by someone/somepeople for commenting on this problem though. For sure. Crypto is becoming more corrupt than ever. And thats hard to do.

Sock puppets are afoot.

Lol, my trust rating was halved in the last day or two once I started to complain about "Sqrl labs". After years of going up Im now going down by the day. Strange behavior on bitcointalk for sure. Pay to play?

The fact that there is a new ASIC, different algo, that is moire profitable coming out soon is not good news to followers of this thread. Lol 

Well your wrong. He almost certainly would have allocated those coins to another device. Perhaps not that exact day, but in that general timeframe. Most people do buy gear in strict cycles, many based on credit cycles like the guy above. Damn straight he would have allocated that money towards something else. Something that would have made a lot more than zero dollars in six-nine months.

I never bought anything, but if I had I would have spent a lot more than $300. Almost everyone who bought from sqrrl was spending in the thousands as well. Its in defense of the company you continually call out people for "getting mad" and "complaining about a loss". Its a very legitimate complaint, people have the right to explain their frustration on a public forum dedicated to the product. Where else can they express their problems with non-working gear that people paid good money for and were basically lied to about.

They absolutely should not be selling more units until they work. Its super shady. And the fact is that people who bought back in June got zero use out of their unit before it went public in January, the next year. That is cause for complaint. Its just wrong.

While I'm a fan of BTC and a few Pow coins with zero premine/dev holdings, almost all of these "ICO" "offerings" are utter garbage. Trash. Worthless.

The term "securities" lends way to much credit as to their real worth and stature in the business world.

Unsecurities is more like it.

While I appreciate the volunteer aspect, we should take note that about a year ago to this day there were well over $100,000 worth of VTC in donations. Since then its dwindled to less than $10,000 due to the price drop but those coins are still there. Its high time the devs take some of that donation money out, get paid, and get more done. I personally donated thousands of VTC alone so far and it would be nice to see more results.

These are the best numbers I have ever seen if indeed these are the numbers at the wall. I have metered 240v, but only in amps. I can therefore only calculate approximate wattage but not near exact. I just got a bunch of 13.5 and 14TH S9s in. I was really thinking that the 3rd party software with the new ASIC boost enabled was going to be my best option, but this 20181107 firmware result is the best I have ever seen posted I think by at least 5%.

  If you no went to skool then mom say I never learn talk right and I never work good for peopel pay me bad no money sad and I will feel bad I won't talk right world looks away from me only fit with loosers who also sad then thing get bad and worse loose teeth but no money to fix never had my brain worked out proper so my mom says every day that il never move out never find a good girld too luv and Im really sad cause I could had fiture if worked, my brainbrain and saw mind get smartr wen yung

Almost every post in this section has stupid high prices. I've found a few deals but mostly its super overpriced to start or, my favorite, taking offers. Then every reasonable offer is denied, wasting everyones time involved.

Sad.

That's a bad sign. I have really high ambient temps in the summer. Lots and lots of flow, but I take 90+degree temps in the summer and exhaust 100+degree heat at times. This makes me think I have no hope if I buy these and try to run them through this summer. AC is not an option.

There's still a lot of these people around. They are trying to hold out, but if shit hits the fan they will sell it all in the blink of an eye. Watch out for a large collapse in the world economy because thats what will set them off. If nothing really bad happens in the economy and there's no panic than I think we are looking at the bottom right now at 4K. It'll be a slow march back to 20K, but with the next having coming in 1.5 years I think that will help it along nicely as we near it.

Id say the only way we go much under 4K again is if the economy totally collapses. That is about a 25% in the next 6 months in my opinion.

If we don't have a world economy collapse in the next 1 and 1/2 years we will slowly climb back to 20K until the next halving in aprox 1.5 years.

The horse is dead, He's dead Jim.

The assumption is that if he didn't buy this unit he would have bought something else. At the same time for the same exchange rate. Its a fair and solid assumption. You have no reason to argue this. Why do you continually defend this company, even when you have no ground to stand on?

There are so many others out there in a similar situation. Credit stretched and expecting a return, within 365 days at the least. If they had known a more realistic timeframe on this project they would have never bought into it. Or simply waited. It was misleading at the least. Perhaps me using the word "con" was a bit strong. But this software delay is really inexcusable. Giving unrealistic software release dates that basically guide peoples buying decisions into purchasing is borderline outright lying to your customers.

If not for selling the hardware upfront, the delays would be acceptable.

But with no software yet still, and hardware selling in apparent unlimited quantities, it makes for a bad look indeed.

Yeah I mean VTC was always planning to fork around ASICs, so this was to be 100% expected. Surprised it took so long honestly. We forked more than once before, and will fork around any ASICs in the future.

Mona is a tag-along coin that I guess you will all be forced to mine now. Or some other obscure shitcoin. VTC made the Lyra2REv2 algo and Mona just decided to take the algo. Thats fine, thats open source code, but now that VTC devs made Lyra2REv3 I wouldn't put it below the Mona devs to fork to it as well. We shall see. To be honest it will be nice to see the ASICs gone from "The peoples coin." VTC I believe will soon make it back into the top of GPU mineable coins.

Man thats some cold shit phill.  But seriously I had the order screen open at one point in August but in the end I knew better of it. I had a feeling the software, not just the hardware, would be the issue and I was right. I also almost bought a BFL jalapeño back in 2013 too, but decided to wait till they had them in stock. Obviously this never happened. So this wouldn't be the only time waiting for finished hardware/software has paid off for me.

Hardware is often the easy part. Software for these things is really, really hard to get right and thats exactly why they needed to wait until they had it down to even start selling hardware. Smoke and mirrors is the name of the game here now. Gotta sell more units, forget that they don't even really work yet. "We will make the units you bought over 6 months ago work, soon." Probably sometime within the next... 2 Weeks^TM

Sock puppets afoot here and there defending the indefensible with this company. Discord? Why no updates on software progression here when they are the ones starting this thread. Im not joining a discord just to sift through the BS. There should be clear progressive updates on their website at least. Weekly updates, monthly at least, with real details on the progress being made and the challenges holding anything back. Real Timeframes.

This company is basically running a long con of sorts in my opinion.

Just because you receive something in your hand in return for money does not mean you haven't been duped.

Me too.

I tried not to bite as well, but here goes. A simple question.

Why don't you connect one of these contraptions to power two more? Then each of one those to two more. And so on. Infinite energy! Right?

Not when it comes to this stuff.    Im fine making a few hundred dollars a month small time mining with second hand gear. But I don't need to be ordering gear not knowing what my eventual customs fees will be.

I don't think that anyone would take a miner down that was profitable unless:

1) They had more efficient gear
2) They had enough to effect the overall hashrate. Thus making it seem like new gear was a way better deal than it really was (Bitmain)

Furthermore I seriously doubt that Bitmain ever had plans to mine in the US or Canada. Not sure where you could possibly get that from.